How Your DNA is Out There, Without You Knowing
Police around the U.S. have embraced "genetic genealogy," which uses DNA consumers offer up to the internet to identify criminal suspects. The method has helped solve rapes and murders dating back to the 1970s. But a key facet of this powerful tool is its most controversial: it can build a detailed picture of people who have never given a sample of their DNA.
Video by Angus Bennett and James Bullock
#Storylines #Crime #BloombergQuicktake
--------
Like this video? Subscribe: www.youtube.com...
Become a Quicktake Member for exclusive perks: www.youtube.com...
QuickTake Originals is Bloomberg's official premium video channel. We bring you insights and analysis from business, science, and technology experts who are shaping our future. We’re home to Hello World, Giant Leap, Storylines, and the series powering CityLab, Bloomberg Businessweek, Bloomberg Green, and much more.
Subscribe for business news, but not as you've known it: exclusive interviews, fascinating profiles, data-driven analysis, and the latest in tech innovation from around the world.
Visit our partner channel QuickTake News for breaking global news and insight in an instant.
Пікірлер: 255
Imagine living for 30 years thinking you got away with brutal murder.
@bikinggal1
3 жыл бұрын
boo hoo
@RussellD11
3 жыл бұрын
yeah i bet he quit worrying and watching over his shoulders! wow
@TaxReligionNow
3 жыл бұрын
Someone is guaranteed to find a sinister use for this technology at some point.
@starventure
2 жыл бұрын
@@TaxReligionNow China has been scraping their own population and any visitors for DNA in order to hunt down "superhuman" codes to utilize in engineered embryos in the future. It sounds like Sci-Fi, but it is happening right now.
The darkest side of the Genetic Genealogy seems to be its background music.
@pleasy13
3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the grating voice of the Bloomberg Health reporter.
And what have we learned from this? Don’t throw trash out of your car at the traffic sign.
@gatman94
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it's true but heard that when you throw your trash in your bins and roll it out to the sidewalk, you forfeit ownership of it. Cops can just come by and take a sample if you're a suspect+know where you live...
@Mashburn007
3 жыл бұрын
I mean , if you have nothing to hide then you are probably safe from such invasion of privacy unless you become a person of interest..then RIP
@Mashburn007
3 жыл бұрын
@juanka galindo yea man , it's quite a scary thing , Is something like this is on black mirror? It's quite fitting for that show
@bikinggal1
3 жыл бұрын
No...don't kill or rape anyone!
@Mashburn007
3 жыл бұрын
@@bikinggal1 as per video , if any of your relative distant or closer does commit a horrible act then by genealogy and family gene tracing your privacy maybe compromised but the criminal is caught
Fighting crime? Imagine your future children/grandchildren denied medical insurance. They are told they have this or that disease potential. And, this is because your great aunt or uncle did the test in the early 2020s which exposed their DNA. Its not about not having anything to hide its about how others exploit what you have/are at a personal level. That will be the greatest crime.
@Duivenzijnfascisten
3 жыл бұрын
Any reasonable country (except mama usa) has law in place that prohibits insurance companies from denying someone based on medical history but I agree with the rest
@mirzapa
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine America where we have UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE!
@TankDerek
3 жыл бұрын
@@Duivenzijnfascisten No, the USA passed the genetic nondiscrimination act in 2008 and it explicitly forbids using genetic information for both hiring and health insurance provision decisions.
@Duivenzijnfascisten
3 жыл бұрын
@@TankDerek yeah you're right about that, but there still is a problem in the USA with denying people based on their medical history, and I do think that insurance companies would be able to find a way around the act in court or with lobbying
@standarsh5523
3 жыл бұрын
@@Duivenzijnfascisten they would definitely find a loophole
Bloomberg took the wrong tone for this video. There are things to worry about with publicly available DNA. But tracking down rapists and murderers is not one of them. If a relative of mine raped or murdered someone, I'd sure as hell hope my DNA could help track them down.
The voice of that lady...
@nisacornforth2740
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah…I was looking to see who commented on that. I could barely listen.
@Ph4nt0m5u6
3 жыл бұрын
She is the voice of Summer from Rick and Morty
@TheRozza333
2 жыл бұрын
5:49 hit me really hard
@svetoslavchilingirov3858
2 жыл бұрын
I'm leaving the video
We have some exciting news! We’re launching channel Memberships for just $0.99 a month. You’ll get access to members-only posts and videos, live Q&As with Bloomberg reporters, business trivia, badges, emojis and more. Join us: kzread.infojoin
my ears cant make it through this video
@brandonpellmann4963
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making me feel like I wasn't the only person.
@SHurd-rc2go
3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating información. Less so, the presenter.
Goodbye audio hello captions.
@RoyvanLierop
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Kristen, we just don't like it when you talk
@S55amgDriver
3 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with the audio? I don't get it
@StopDropandLOL
3 жыл бұрын
@@S55amgDriver the host’s accent is irritating
Could someone please shut up Ms. Kristen Brown's voice? Her "valleygirl" speak is irritating to say the least. If they're going to put a talking head onto a video at least make it professional
I really cannot listen to Kristen's voice...
@S55amgDriver
3 жыл бұрын
People keep commenting about having to use captions and I'm confused. What is wrong with her voice? I didn't notice anything.
How about some common sense rules. Allow law enforcement access to DNA databases to solve crimes(or exonerate ppl). While prohibiting insurers access to DNA databases. Sometimes it's that simple.
@mcjon77
3 жыл бұрын
Even better, don't allow insurers to deny you or raise your rates based on pre-existing conditions.
Had to keep captions ON and mute audio at some parts.
@jsmnzgb
3 жыл бұрын
Wonder why!
@S55amgDriver
3 жыл бұрын
Why? I don't get it.
@zrinko
3 жыл бұрын
@@S55amgDriver because the voice of the woman is anoying as f...
@denisla3546
3 жыл бұрын
@@zrinko She is super sexy 🔥
@tryhardfinessedyou
3 жыл бұрын
@@denisla3546 I mean she is doable. About a 5 pinter.
Basically do not commit any crime
@starventure
2 жыл бұрын
Not if you are going to leave your splooge or spit behind at least.
Jesus the reporter has an annoying voice... almost the stereotypical voice of a person you don’t want to sit next to on a long journey.
agree, not to be mean but the woman's voice is very annoying, stay to writing the stories
This womans voice is annoying 😒
I’m torn between protecting my relatives and throwing one in jail if they’re a criminal. Also, what i’m exactly protecting my relatives from? From being investigated for murder? I have a suspicion that the vast majority of those who had a child abducted, a relative murdered, a wife raped, etc would find this "protecting" of oneself and relatives idiotic. The problems with DNA databases are others, like discrimination when it comes to medical insurance.
"obsessive people with their weird interests.." dang bro are you harboring some deep seated anger about this or something?
@deborahtanner354
3 жыл бұрын
Is he talking about genealogists? 😂 What is he hiding? DNA has uncovered so many secrets.
@n00dles79
3 жыл бұрын
@@deborahtanner354 lol right? Unsure if he meant genealogist or the people at home searching for connections through family records. Watched the video a long time ago. 🤣
My results said I'm 100% Asian and I was shocked!
@rockblack
3 жыл бұрын
Results are generated randomly on excel with the function "randomtext"
How about you don't kill anybody and then you won't have to worry about the cops showing up to arrest you because your cousins shared his DNA.
@mirzapa
3 жыл бұрын
What a shallow minded comment.
@dclas1
3 жыл бұрын
The whole point of this video flew right by you. Lmao
She sounds like Lumpy Space Princess from Adventure time.
@AtheistEve
3 жыл бұрын
Voice coaching might be worthwhile. I used captions.
@exceedinc
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO !!!!
@thenatureedits8089
3 жыл бұрын
i thought i was the only one
@josron6088
3 жыл бұрын
@@thenatureedits8089 I thought I was the only one.
@STScott-qo4pw
3 жыл бұрын
the white princess uptalk drives me batty.
Of course people have thought through the implications....ever seen the 1997 film Gattaca?
@alexm566
3 жыл бұрын
all inside traders watched anti inside trading videos..
@johnstibal2131
3 жыл бұрын
Great Film, scary. However, bio engineering will allow pretty much any human to be an athlete at some point.
@jonathansinger3818
3 жыл бұрын
Only some people have thought through the implications. My observation after 60+ years is that the majority of the population are idiots. They almost never think of anyone but themselves. And it would be even more rare for them to consider how their actions might effect someone else. And when they do do something that negatively impacts someone else.... first, you would have to point it out to them, then, the typical response is "I didn't know", or "I don't care". BTW...Gattaca was a great movie
Boy, this has a real clickbaity feel. Not just the title though.
A murderer should not have the right to privacy. That is what is wrong with the whole judicial system. Finding a dead body in a trunk and then it gets thrown out because the ass hole who killed the person, little rights got crushed. I am so sick of this system!! Morals and ethics need to be used!!
@RussellD11
3 жыл бұрын
innocent until proven guilty... You dont know who the murder is or was.... you cant search everyone
@RussellD11
3 жыл бұрын
@Paul Revere indeed i would... it's always a different perspective in the other guys shoes, we have to "try" and remember that I agree...
yea dont worry i live in a 3rd world country where nobody gives a fuck bout DNA testing for ancestry and even if mine got exposed, itd be very distant relatives which would therefore include non reliable data due to gap
The criminal justice system does not “disproportionately target” minorities. If they didn’t commit a disproportionate number of the crimes, then the statistics would look much different.
@jackblack704
3 жыл бұрын
Who do you think can afford cocaine?
@frankySR21
3 жыл бұрын
@@jackblack704 This isn’t the 80s, it’s not reserved to penthouse parties anymore.
This is as invsasive as China facial recognition
@starshot5172
3 жыл бұрын
Facial recognition is something that can be fought against. DNA databases are inevitable. Fight for your freedom, don't ever take it for granted
@4evertrue830
3 жыл бұрын
It is a different version of it, i.e China's invasive facial recognition technology but designed in American to suit its needs.
@rgs2007
3 жыл бұрын
@Neil Deep sure it is. I don't want my dna going around or people tracing me by heritage. And this is clearly out of control. You cannot avoid someone to trace you.
@beyourself7428
3 жыл бұрын
@@starshot5172 Just to point out: Facial recognition is equally inevitable in China. If you've been there you'll know what I'm talking about. Privacy and freedom is so precious, and if you lose a bit you'll eventually lose it all. Just look at victims in China & NK etc.
@starshot5172
3 жыл бұрын
@@beyourself7428 yeah but I don't live in china
If the entire 2% of the 7 billion (140,000,000) are all geographically located in the west, I doubt if that would be sufficient.
Would it have to be a broad 2%? I would think if we sequence 2% of the population of the earth but if 100% of that 2% were contained in one region it wouldn't be accurate.
@ilyarudz9508
3 жыл бұрын
I think the study considered a simple random sample, and with 2% threshold you can even assume it to be draws with replacement, which simplifies it even more. So, yes, they theoretically should be a complete strangers from different places and backgrounds, unless some probability fluke lands you in alabama or smth.
You can't get your phone I formation released but you can now have your intimate information released to any law enforcement department.
That's why you should never throw any trash on the road!
Wait there is still so much that we do not understand about genetics. I can remember two different cases of women that it was biologically showing that they were not the mothers. In the UK they knew that particular mother gave birth to those children, so they started doing an investigation and came to realize that there were different genetics samples within her tissues, that showed a man and a woman. meaning if there was a particular case regarding forensics science it would show that there was a man and woman. in reality there was only a woman, one person female, so we don’t know that much about forensic science and genetics!!...
Unethical companies are scary, yes, but what about one of the many extreme right/left political parties getting more power lately in several countries? like they wouldn't use this tool to target dissidents or religious/racial minorities.
"It's only a combination of these obsessive people with these weird interests" If this technology had solved a serious crime in his family...I'm sure he would be singing a different tune.
@shant756
3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't saying it in a derogatory manner
@mboiko
3 жыл бұрын
@@shant756 Framing family genealogists as "obsessive people with these weird interests" might not be derogatory...but it sure isn't positive either. Especially considering these are the people bringing peace and a certain degree of closure for many families in much pain.
How often is DNA evidence wrong when used to solve crimes? The problem isn't that this technology is inaccurate, the problem is this technology is...too accurate and that makes some people uncomfortable.
@guardianoffire8814
3 жыл бұрын
DNA evidence could contaminated by paramedics, firefighters, witnesses who find the body, police officers, and even lab forensics who used the same gloves. Bunch people could standing behind the yellow line and wind blows a single eye lash on the site area. Contamination of DNA in an investigation site is easy and if the police become lazy and simply depend only on DNA evidence alone, the wrong people could end up in jail. DNA evidence should only be one of the many tools of investigation.
@mboiko
3 жыл бұрын
@@guardianoffire8814 Sounds like you are going out of your way to disprove the use of DNA. When it's usually not an issue, because DNA is just one piece of the forensic/evidence case puzzle. Hopefully, at some point..you have multiple pieces of a case...all pointing to one likely conclusion.
@sydneyw4282
3 жыл бұрын
It can and has happened.
@mboiko
3 жыл бұрын
@@sydneyw4282 Like to compare the accuracy of eyewitness testimony with DNA evidence...I didn't think so.
@yoshi9358
3 жыл бұрын
@@mboiko Several people have been wrongly convicted because of bad DNA evidence
You leave your DNA, might as well have left a fingerprint. What's the problem?
If this doesn't show and tells us that we are all connected, I don't know what is!
@AyeeElyy
3 жыл бұрын
🙄 wow you made that connection all on your own?
@bakr6405
3 жыл бұрын
it also shows we are connected to apes, dogs, cats and even birds and fishes, so?
It seems she imply that using DNA is not fair to current murders and criminals, it puts them at a disadvantage because they are potentially easier to find.
If you had universal healthcare, the insurance argument falls apart. I say throw all those degenerates in jail.
This women's voice and movement is incredibly annoying and distracting. I cant listen to this
Dummies also believe online profiles and GPS convenience does not come at your own privacy.
Your DNA is out there and it's never coming back. Giggity!
@starventure
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, just use a rubber next time...
"dont know what it could be used for"? I mean look at any sci-fi founders in the 50's they saw the implications decades ago.
They use your DNA without your consent against you.
So wait it really looks more like if there’s a killer in the family you may find out. So what else was the point. My insurance is going up WHAT!
So my father is a womanizer, he had so many women and so many children, I don’t even know how many step brothers or sisters I have, last time I’ve checked we are 11 😱😱😱 so what if it comes out that one of them is a killer? How am I supposed to know where to find them if I don’t even know them myself, they live all over the world, how would the police go about finding these people ?
@WestsidePatriot
3 жыл бұрын
They have their ways but the DNA is used to find out who the person is or for confirmation. So they can look at the DNA and see how many centamorgans (genetic markers) are shared between you and someone else and determine how you may be related and then look at others as well and see how they are related to them. That’s how they companies can determine who is related and how they’re related.
@HAIRHOLIC_1
3 жыл бұрын
@@WestsidePatriot wow thx for clarifying this 👌
Many thanks for these Real life stories
When will people learn? There are NO MORE SECRETS!
This is kind of gross
On the one hand I think everybodys' DNA information should be stored in searchable database. BUT, on the other hand the implactions of misuse is terrifying.
@jennh2096
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Part of me has no problem with it and would gladly give a sample considering I'm a law abiding citizen. FBI already has my prints because its required for my professional license. There's another part of me that clearly sees the slippery slope here, and I don't like it.
I remember this case.. I just watched the documentary a few years ago and it has stuck in my mind.. I'm so glad someone was finally held to account!! I mean no disrespect but the females voice is really annoying.. It's like every word is sung and drawn out instead of just talking.. Informatioooooon.. Ancestrrryyyyyyyy... Includiiiiiiiing.. It's like Omgosh just say the word, lol...
I guess i am not seeing the risks involved here. If your cousin committed a murder and your DNA helped track them down and bring them to account for their crime.... thaaaattss bad? I am a law biding citizen and i voluntarily chose to participate in a genetics test kit.... i haven't committed any crimes, nor am i being convicted of one. The story example they show says that they didn't arrest anyone solely based on the ancestry database, it was a launch pad for confirming a suspect as a valid suspect. And then separate police DNA testing matched the criminal evidence with that found on the coffee cup.... Because this same data mining could be used to solve active cases as well as cold ones, it's problematic?
Don't come to me with that "minority groups" talk.
This video is super interesting, but the red haired lady's voice has got to be the most annoying thing I heard so far this year. What the fuck is up with this "uptalk" that is getting more and more popular? It's a pandemic worst than the 'rona.
All those dna test services are not sequencing your entire genome. They only sequence certain strands of dna
Obsessive people with weird interests. You nailed it.
ok but why do people care? dont do crime lmao
These tests are great. I love it when people Deny their heritage because of bias or racism, lol.
Why does the other woman say dna evidence can be wrong? That isn't possible
@WestsidePatriot
3 жыл бұрын
Through means of tampering and mishandling. Evidence of DNA only proves there was sort of interaction of environments or persons. There are cases where that doesn’t even occur.
But still no clue who killed 2Pac & Biggie.........😐
@mdp125
3 жыл бұрын
That's because they were shot. No DNA evidence
Wait, did you say your dna is the same as your relatives? That's weird. How do you identify who are the bad guy if it's like that?
@yeahitworks
3 жыл бұрын
Not exactly. Your share some DNA, that's why relatives can be identified. You DNA is still unique.
@gravoc857
3 жыл бұрын
You don’t share 100% identical DNA with your family members. The % match goes down the further away you get from immediate family. But the point is that you and your cousin share enough similar DNA. Imagine you commit murder & your cousin submitted an ancestry test. When the police test that DNA sample and compare it to genetic databases. Your cousin will come up as a high percentage match. This tells the police that the murderer is within that family tree, giving them a massive lead to investigate. They inevitably land on you, test your DNA & determine the genetic match between the crime scene sample & your personal DNA are close enough to implicate you in the crime.
@HAIRHOLIC_1
3 жыл бұрын
@@gravoc857 you’ve explained it so clearly well done 👌
Liiikkkkkeeeee Why do you talk like that???
Hurry up and check more cold cases especially murdered or attempted murders should get more in jail or uncomfortable life lol
@AndSoImTylenol
3 жыл бұрын
Srsly. If my uncle murdered someone and they use familial DNA to catch him, fuck him.
Make sure to use a fake name if you send your spit in for testing
@georgewagner7787
3 жыл бұрын
And a friend's credit card...
Think she could find Ted Bundys father?
What a wonderful person
@denisla3546
3 жыл бұрын
Isn't she so lovely 🙂
@starshot5172
3 жыл бұрын
@@denisla3546 Yeah, I've read about her before, I love her career choices. Asbolute madlady
Encrypgen will change that!
50 shares of VGAC might have been a bad call. we'll see.
I’ve honestly never understand the curiosity of doing this test other for say like adopted people hoping to reconnect. I don’t have to know who my great great great grandparents were anyways...
Video is a nice subject... But can that ginger lady have a more annoying voice?? I want to cut my ears off 😭😭
Thatbgirl has a big accent
Do not litter
Kudos
Nice...
If you haven't done anything wrong you having nothing to fear.... Or in other words, if you're not a serial killer or haven't killed someone
Body parts hunters
Ummm the dark side?..that’s a pretty impactful statement to the victims
Crazyyyy...
The health reporter is a tigeressss🐅
DNA evidence is WRONG? or can be WRONG? also i thought the companies you sign in with CAN NOT sell your information?
@RussellD11
3 жыл бұрын
isnt there a HIPA thing thats quite strict?
@shellybelly9205
3 жыл бұрын
They don't sell it, the Police subpoena it (as evidence)
@RussellD11
3 жыл бұрын
@@shellybelly9205 i doupt that... just like ATT and Googe doesnt get fat checks from DOD as well huh?
@shellybelly9205
3 жыл бұрын
@@RussellD11 well all I know is, once there is a request from a court or law enforcement, the company with the evidence/information turns it over. DNA, Google history or cell tower pings.
@georgewagner7787
3 жыл бұрын
HIPAA has nothing to do with this. It's Medical.
Trucks driver once again
@RussellD11
3 жыл бұрын
they are odd ball creatures, a lot of them..... but if your a loner, its a cool job
🤔
It’s okay by me. What do I care if people have my DNA it’s just data.
world is very fatalic in dangour street of COVID . stay safe
Just because you have access to someone's DNA, given by someone else, doesn't mean that you have the consent to use that material. Violation of 4th amendment rights.sorry.
@Mashburn007
3 жыл бұрын
When you have thrown it , You have forfeited it's ownership. Your comment is flawed 😃
@cajunchampagne2469
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mashburn007 no, what i said was if someone else close to me does it and they are able to glean my dna doesn't mean they have the right to use it. my consent is implied there. your ability to read what you understand is flawed. =)
Is it really worth to know that you have ancestors from another country or region?🤔🤔
😔😔😔
Had a Covid test?