2011 Macs with SSDs are functionally for the end user faster than 2019 iMacs with HDDs, irregardless of processor or RAM.

@LordvanDarc

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Simpson true

@jscorpio1987

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It doesn’t matter how fast the processor is if the whole system has that ancient bottleneck otherwise known as an HDD. That’s why I tore out the hard drive in my iMac and replaced it with an SSD. It’s lightening fast now.

@allansh828

4 жыл бұрын

what if you have 128GB RAM in 2019 model?

@LordvanDarc

4 жыл бұрын

@@allansh828 Then you can open 12 Chrome tabs or play Minecraft at 60fps :P

@TheJudge064

4 жыл бұрын

Apple is being seriously greedy holding that upgrade back from the stock config. though. It then has the audacity to ask for a *100 bucks* to "upgrade" to a fricking 128gig ssd. At that price, and considering that the hdd is unused, they should at least throw in a 512 gig drive. These greedy actions are the only reason why I'm not buying any apple products in the near future. My old 2013 MBA is getting towards the end of it's life, and I was considering getting the 2019 pro model, but it has the same base storage as a machine that is *7 Years old.* Surely ssd manufacturing must've improved a lot, and they should be cheaper no?

The first thing I did when I got my 2012 MBP is put in a SSD.

@pillettadoinswartsh4974

4 жыл бұрын

I've got a 2009 MBP, and 2009 and 2010 Macbooks. I put SSD's in all of them and they run great on just 4GB RAM. And thanks to dosdude1, they all are smoothly running Mojave, soon to be on Catalina.

@deerenzo

4 жыл бұрын

Pilletta Doinswartsh mine doesn’t work anymore since I updated the 2009 mbp 13 to Mojave. I think the graphics card is dead

@estebanquito356

4 жыл бұрын

@@pillettadoinswartsh4974 I see you are a man of culture aswell. I got a 2012,2011,2010 15' mbp and im planning to buy a 17' 2009 this week. All of them running on ssd and Catalina, the 2011 running on integrated graphics only thanks to dosdude1 and the 2010 and soon to be the 2009 running thanks to louis rossman. What a time to be a nerd, they are still perfectly everyday working machines that were brought back to life!

@rrcoster

4 жыл бұрын

Ive put SSD all machines now. Once go SSD don't ever want go back lol

@rolandsequeira

4 жыл бұрын

@@pillettadoinswartsh4974 Catalina does not support your Macbooks. That seems to be the end for your upgrades on old machines, was lucky enough for it to cover my old Mac mini late 2012..

The human eye can only see 4gb ram anyways

@Kyrad777

4 жыл бұрын

I can't tell if this is an attempted troll or not.

@wassimrahmani3561

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kyrad777 really??

@desaturated6049

4 жыл бұрын

somewhat true

@timelapse7454

4 жыл бұрын

😆

@xmesaj2

4 жыл бұрын

this comment made my day :D

I got a MacBook Pro Mid 2012 edition 🔥 16 GB RAM x 500 GB HDD x 250 GB SSD ... macOS Catalina works 💯

@cx3128

4 жыл бұрын

899 Panigale can you get the sidecar to work with an iPad?

@sanchayanghosh1240

4 жыл бұрын

For those who want to run sidecar. Use the sidecar core patch. Of course, you got to disable SIP to make it work. I found it working on a 2015 macbook air. The screen quality on iPad won't be good(jagged lines), but latency is very low. Response is top notch. Yet to try with Apple pencil though

@RichardTheContentWhisperer

4 жыл бұрын

My 2012 15” MacBook Pro won’t update to Catalina :/

@audia4351

4 жыл бұрын

Same but I only have 8gb ram

@Gravemind158

4 жыл бұрын

officially only 8gb is supported but the system lets you upgrade to 16gb with no problem on the Macbook Pro 13" mid 2012

As soon as that Pro is upgraded with an SSD and 16 GB RAM, it runs like a dream.

@halvardlund4782

3 жыл бұрын

Can I install 16 GB ram on a -mid 2012 Macbook that has a top of 8 gb ram ?

@Adrijanos_

3 жыл бұрын

@@halvardlund4782 you can my mid 2012 has 16gb ram and 250gb ssd

@halvardlund4782

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adrijanos_ Do you also have i5 or i7. Thanks for answering...

@Adrijanos_

3 жыл бұрын

@@halvardlund4782 Intel Core i5 2,5GHz Dual-Core Hyperthreading 16GB DDR3 RAM Intel HD 4000 Graphics 1TB FusionDrive / 250GB Samsung SSD - 750GB WD HDD

Bro this is the first time again for so long that I have watched your vids. You have drastically improved over the years. Smooth, informative, and on point. Graphics and sounds look great. Your outfit and beard as well! Kudos to you. I will be continuously watching more of your content.

I personally have a mid 2012 mbp, but just adding ssd was enough to make a world of a difference,

@mvl6827

4 жыл бұрын

I did the same, 1tb ssd. Plus 16 RAM . Best decision ever. MacBook Pro 2012 Catalina runs like a dream

@gggreen5737

4 жыл бұрын

Does sidecar works on Mac book pro mid 2012? Thanks!

@mvl6827

4 жыл бұрын

GG Groove no, you need to be macbook 2016 or newer for that.unfortunately

@gggreen5737

4 жыл бұрын

m vl ok thank you 😉

@tirelinton8290

4 жыл бұрын

no its shit on 2012 macbook pro

I've owned my mid 2012 MBP from new, and I've practically used it every single day for the last 8 years. Bought it for $1200, which seemed like a lot back then compared to other options). It turned out to be a great investment. I still use it for work on a daily basis for 8 plus hours per day. Upgraded to a Samsung 500BG SSD about 3 years ago and also upgraded RAM to 16GB. Running latest version of Sierra now and it still runs like a champ. boots in 45 seconds and ready to go. Considering updating to Catalina, but don't want to push my luck with how well its running.

That HDD is slower than my WiFi.

@nikkiboy9662

4 жыл бұрын

It’s slower than me running

@stephensmith9951

4 жыл бұрын

its double the speed of mine

@tiagogomez2804

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikkiboy9662 hahahahaha

3:48 I have that Macbook Pro, upgraded to an SSD and 16 gb of ram and since then every OS runs smoothly without hiccups, im really impressive of my first Mac i bought, planning to upgrade but not sure if i need to wait for a cheaper Mac mini or a more upgradable MAC or go ahead with the new iMac.

I love the musics you use for your videos Luke! you are amazing!

Nice little soft shout out to Snazzy. I'm currently watching a bunch of your videos. Just subscribed.

I reset my Mid 2013 MBA with 4 gigs of RAM to factory settings and installed Catalina. The machine is faster and smoother than ever before.

Mac has always been infamous for selling their computers with the bare minimum RAM to run. I'd always told my clients that I would upgrade the RAM of their new machine. Now that it's soldered onto the board, I tell them to get the maximum RAM they can afford.

Luke, nice video mate. Nice and quick without any fluff. Good on ya...

Fantastic. This really helped me. Thank you!

The worst thing about the mid-2012 MBP 13" is the 1280x800 resolution. It's the only thing you can't improve. With 16GB of RAM, graphics performance is decent in Lightroom and Final Cut (considering the year this laptop was launched). Planning to upgrade early next year to the current MacBook Pro 13".

I used to have a mid 2010 mbp. The ssd made the computer feel brand new

@barriedarville4816

3 жыл бұрын

I have a mid 2010 MacBook Pro and used the dos dude patch to install Catalina. I have fitted a SSD and increased the RAM to 8GB. Really pleased with my old MacBook Pro

Love this channel!

Nice video Luke!

Installed with dosdude1 patcher on my 2011, 13inch MacBook PRO, 250 Crucial SSD and 8GB of RAM. Still a very servicible machine that boots in 30 seconds.

@KaryaJelata

4 жыл бұрын

can you use the sidecar feature?

Mid 2012 15" MacBook here. 2.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M Enjoying this newer update, but am for sure counting the days till I'm forced to upgrade.

@diodimov

4 жыл бұрын

What os are you running and are you doing any music production or graphic intensive stuff?

Been following all of your great videos, and i just did some upgrades to a Mac Mini 2012 purchased for $250. It's gonna be a nice desktop addition for me. However, my mistake was to upgrade to this new OS. It rendered my existing Microsoft Office programs unable to run, but they were serving my needs. Got to figure out how to get back to the High Sierra OS!

That was a fantastic no nonsense review.

Very interesting to watch - I learnt a lot. Many thanks.....all the way from London !

ive installed it on my early 2011 macbook pro, it runs alright, i do need a ssd and 8gb of ram, but i agree on the speed pof the hardrive, it does make things run slow, to keep mine fast , i run as few things as possible on start up

@alanmay7929

4 жыл бұрын

Williamg209 you should buy a samsung ssd they are expensive but they have a 5year guarantee for the best ones thats what i did with my old 2009 laptop and it starts in just 3seconds

@namesashhousewares8337

4 жыл бұрын

Williamg209 yeah. replace your hdd with a ssd and it's like a new computer, so fucking worth it

i have a 2020 macbook air and its so fast for running like 80 of my school documents because i had a windows computer before and i needed something a lot better for school and its just working so well and i love that ill get mad support too

Wife is still rocking her late 2009 white unibody. Updated with SSD, more RAM and a fresh battery - it still does everything she needs from it (she uses an iPad Air 2 a lot as well).

I'm running it on a 2010 Mini with Catalina Patcher. Runs better than it did with High Sierra.

I have a 2012 MacBOok Pro - slightly higher spec, the 2.9 GHz Core i7 version - that I've upgraded to 16GB of memory, a 500GB SSD and a 1 TB HDD in a caddy. It's running fine with a couple hundred Chrome tabs open, several Visual Studio Code windows open, both Firefox and Safari running a few tabs each, and some other stuff. I like that it's the last version that can be completely disassembled and anything replaced. What I don't know is whether there's a significant enough boost to go to a 2013 or later model. Because of the DisplayGate problem I know there's a couple model years to avoid, as well as avoiding the models with the butterfly keyboard. Meaning I think 2014 is the last suitable model year.

@thejasong01

4 жыл бұрын

go for a late 2013 MacBook pro with 2gb dedicated graphics (GT 750M), it's cheaper than a 2014 with basically the same specs that's what i just got for myself, and i will be installing Catalina these next days after i see some returns, other than that how is going with web development?

@michel1941

4 жыл бұрын

Jason G Hi Jason.. how is Catalina working on your machine? I have a mid 2009 MacBook Pro and thought about upgrading to 2013 because of your recommendation. 2014 model seems to have about the same specs, as you said and with the 2015 model the butterfly keys got introduced, which I definitely want to abstain from. Thx for your response in advance. 😊

@Windows7Pro2009

4 жыл бұрын

Mi chel 2016 model year MBP introduced butterfly keyboards, not 2015 MBP.

Thanx for the video is just the info that i need

Very useful content. I am that close to subscribing!! Please keep it up.

I like what you said about HDD. Those are only good for storage of media in my eyes. Also, the minimum spec'd machines will probably stop being supported. Companies got get us consumers to upgrade one way or another.

Is that 2015 MacBook Pro 15” ready for sale yet? 😆

A good video for those who compare SSD equipped Macs with HDD equipped Windows PCs.

Who leaves mid-2012 MacBook Pro, a legendary upgradable machine with spinning drive and 4gb. I upgraded Samsung Evo 860 and 16gb and runs like a beast for day to day use. Only I feel what it lacks is a Retina display. Thank you for your quality video 👍👍

Catalina runs on my MacBook Late 2009 with 2,26 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 8GB Ram and 256GB SSD perfectly

Meanwhile my early 2009 iMac 20" with a Core2 Duo processor still works like a charm for everyday use (Thanks Dosdude1).

@djurodjurakaruci6773

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah right! BULLSHIT ALERT!!!!

@Bjoern_K

4 жыл бұрын

My white plastic Macbook 5,2 also 😄. How much ram have you put intoo your iMac? And do you run Catalina on a SSD or a HDD?

my dad upgraded just what you said to upgrade years ago, and his machine is pretty snappy

I love the way you film your videos bro, super pro , is it a cam on a gimbal around the MBP? SUPER SUPER

I still use my Mid 2010 Unibody MacBook, with 8GB RAM, a 240GB SSD, 2.4GHz Core 2 duo and Nvidia GeForce 320M 256MB GPU on Catalina using dosdude1's patchers and it's very snappy and quick and I love it

@alexhernandez2367

4 жыл бұрын

@@mihael.stojanovic He upgraded his specs and he "hackintoshed" his computer to get it to run macos Catalina. But i imagine that the newer macbooks will still have a long life.

@furiousdoe7779

4 жыл бұрын

Could you please give some info where to start .. I have the same machine and i am afraid using the wrong links ..kind regards

Still using my macbook pro mid 2012 everyday without any upgrades

@gogomonow

4 жыл бұрын

What os?

@hakonmoseid7149

4 жыл бұрын

@@gogomonow the almost newest

@adambroussard2987

4 жыл бұрын

I just upgraded mine last week and I wish I’d had done it sooner.

@90ravg

4 жыл бұрын

Which macos?

@steveybrown2

4 жыл бұрын

SSD’s are so cheap these days you can replace that 500gig HDD with the same size SSD for less than $100 and it makes the world of difference. I don’t know how I ever put up with the original HDD. I have a 2008 MacBook that I put a SSD in and it runs faster than my 2012 ever did on a standard HDD

Runs fine on my 2011 Mac Mini with dosdude patch. watching this video and commenting on it right now! :)

Good video - I have that model macBook. An SSD upgrade is super easy, plus, for a few bucks more, a caddy can be purchased to replace the optical drive with a second SSD. Slap in 16GB of RAM and it becomes a very capable mac, let down primarily by the screen resolution. My 2012 macBook is running catalina just fine, but it's primary usage is casual browsing, music etc. - I got it second hand with the mechanical drive. It was unusable in that state, even with Sierra.

Just btw, if you have a Logitech product using the Unifying Receiver, it won't work (or work properly) under Catalina. No updates available yet.

@esseferio

4 жыл бұрын

Nice to know, thanks!

@WarriorsPhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Good to know thank you.

@brentecksdee

4 жыл бұрын

my k270 wireless keyboard and mouse works fine! no problems at all

@georgemorris9616

4 жыл бұрын

@@brentecksdee Thanks. Its definitely patchy. Some people have lots of problems. Some none. Hopefully we get an update soon.

@WarriorsPhoto

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgemorris9616 This is why I try to never update till I have too. Good thread though.

This was truly informative, Thank You. I would never try to teach an ancient dog new tricks even if you paid me. However, if that dog is as exceptional and spry as a 7yr old Mac product, I may be tempted, slightly🤫. Thank Goodness my ’15 MacBook Pro is nowhere near middle-aged as far as OS 10.15 is concerned. As of this moment, she’s purring away😉.

I have a 13” 2012 MacBook Pro with an SSD, definitely a must upgrade, it’s even faster than my 2017 quad-core iMac

Thanks. As someone who uses mostly newer iPad and older MBA, very informative. Haven’t upgraded to Catalina yet, but prob is, it is basically required after upgrading to iPadOS in order to keep same workflow. Can’t even connect iPad to MBA with cable at the moment. Old iTunes does not work with iPadOS.

I'm running it on a early 2008 Macbook Pro 4,1 a little dosdude magic :D

@esseferio

4 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of updating a mid 2009 white macbook 5,2 that's already on Mojave, but I'm afraid this will bring it to its knees despite 6gb of RAM and a decent SSD... Is it really usable on your MBP?

@PatriciaDraven71

4 жыл бұрын

@@esseferio I haven't stressed it to much yet, only had it installed a day, butt up to now I've had no issues with it. Dosdudes page has a link to the patcher and all the info you will need

Thanks for roasting my macbook pro. Today I was clean installed my mid 2012 macbook pro with catalina, still running smoothly with 3-4 hours battery

@FlintG

4 жыл бұрын

Hari Kishore My mac mini is slow as crap after installing catalina. Im glad I am building my new gaming pc this year I am done with macs.

@harikishore2514

4 жыл бұрын

@i Phone No. Actually I get same, if not bit better backup, may be because of dark mode.

@harikishore2514

4 жыл бұрын

@i Phone I don't know about Mojave. I jumped from High Sierra.I don't give assurance on extra battery backup. but it won't drain the battery unless some thread or program run continuously eating battery and cpu, which you can find and solve by going through internet. and first update also released so any issues with OS would have solved by now. performance will be same. and dark mode surely better for eyes. In my case I didn't face any problem while updating or post updating. I surely recommend it. prefer clean install because junk data slow your mac.

@sterlingroberts6240

4 жыл бұрын

AlphaMax Catalina is only supported on that Mac Mini because Apple knows the user can easily upgrade to an SSD(and for almost no money). A modest amount of money and 15 minutes to swap out the HDD and increase RAM makes the system operate similarly to new ones. You own a the most basic Mac possible, and are clearly interested in gaming more than anything else(something Macs are just not built for). I’m not sure if you building a gaming PC is wise if you can’t handle resurrecting a Mac Mini.

i remember when i upgraded my 2011 13" MBP with an SSD and 8 gb. It was like a brand new machine, i extended the usability up until this very day. It's perfectly usable for day to day tasks even now, 9 years later. I also upgraded my moms polycarbonate macbook with an SSD and 4 gigs of ram. That this is over 10 years old, and she still uses it. It's getting a little slow, even with the SSD, at loading bigger websites, but it still gets the job done.

Thanks I need this.

2012 mbp can actually support 16GB of ram, though apple only “officially” supports 8gb. I purchased a 16GB kit for my 2012 13” MBP and a 500GB SSD for about $110 total a few months ago and it runs like a modern machine on Catalina

@zeroeffortmemes

4 жыл бұрын

I bought a 16GB upgrade from Apple directly and the Apple store put it in for me on my 2012 MBP, so it's definitely supported

@karadanvers6136

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊 just the info I needed to jump up from maverick’s now that chrome isn’t supported anymore

I installed it on my 2012 13" Macbook Pro (i5, 8gb ram, 500gb ssd), and it runs really well. I like it

@alexissantana4603

4 жыл бұрын

Moritz Clauss same, but I got 256gb Samsung 860pro and 10gb ram

@wutangcatclan

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexissantana4603 Thats a nice Mid 2012 compared to nowadays laptops.

@monkeyman8265

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks my MacBook Pro is the same model with the same upgrades and I really wanted to know this. Just to make sure it's the non retina right? That's what I have mid 2012 non retina.

@alexissantana4603

4 жыл бұрын

MonkeyMan yeah, non retina

@alexissantana4603

4 жыл бұрын

Life with Bart in gonna get a 2tb Samsung 860 pro ssd and maybe 16gb of ram to max it out

I’m glad I watched this video, I was about to install Catalina but what stops me is the fact that I used to install this OS before and it did not work well, its too slow. So before I download it I’m planning to upgrade the RAM and replace HDD to SSD

Runs really well on my mid 2010 macbook pro core 2 duo with ssd and 8 gigs ram. Use the dosdude1 patch.

That HDD is almost dead... speed should be 90MB/s+

@garageghost6038

4 жыл бұрын

yeah that HDD speed was super slow. Obviously mechanical hard drives are still the biggest bottleneck, but that was too slow, even for a mechanical hard drive.

@kalijasin

4 жыл бұрын

@Alexander Van Nevel, then you don’t know what you are talking about. www.pcgamer.com/my-120tb-nas-is-faster-than-an-ssd/ www.itpro.co.uk/nas/29491/can-you-put-ssds-in-a-nas www.windowscentral.com/these-hard-drives-should-be-considered-any-nas

I’ve been running Catalina for the last couple months on my 2012 MacBook Pro. Initially it had 4GB of RAM and a 500GB HDD, and it ran well enough to do basic tasks like web browsing. Upgrading to 16GB of RAM and a 500GB SSD (roughly $150 from OWC) made a significant improvement. It boots fast, most tasks are fairly fast, and does fine with Xcode, VS Code and Android Studio which can be fairly CPU intensive at times. I keep it on my desk half the time connected to a 4K monitor, and that does not appear to effect performance. The only reason I have to upgrade is the low res screen. My previous MacBook Pro had a Retina display (and was stolen), and I like having more screen real estate.

I'm still on High Sierra on my 2015 MacBook Pro... Works great!

Mac mini 2014 - i5 2.6 - 16gb - 512ssd, it’s as fast as Mojave was. Good video! 👍

My base Macbook Pro 13" has been running Catalina just fine, actually.

@dave4744

4 жыл бұрын

What year is your MacBook Pro 13? I have one from mid 2014 and was wondering how it runs on Catalina. It works really well on Mojave so far.

@stack_overflow

4 жыл бұрын

@@dave4744 Mid 2012

@tashayla464

4 жыл бұрын

Help please!!! I tried to update my mid2012 MacBook Pro to Catalina, and it not working.

@richardyang7486

4 жыл бұрын

@@dave4744 I just upgraded to Catalina as well. got a late 2013 macbook pro 13. Running smoothly.

@tashayla464

4 жыл бұрын

Zanna Help please!

Sidecar doesn't work with my mid-2015 MBP, at the highest possible custom specs. Still not enough motivation to upgrade until they raise the keyboard, bring back at least 1 usb port, glowing logo, etc.

@jeremydavis5661

4 жыл бұрын

Gorilla Man usb isn’t coming back and neither is the glowing logo, sorry.

@wendysremix

4 жыл бұрын

Modern macs are a joke

@leodai8620

4 жыл бұрын

Ports become obsolete, get over it

@wendysremix

4 жыл бұрын

USB isn't. Neither is HDMI and definitely not MagSafe.

@dylanash2569

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Especially if Apple is making products geared towards development and business (Macs). These people need; HDMI, and USB for presentations and possibly plugging in a mouse or thumb drive. Apple fucked up in 2016 when they moved to pure Type C. Living with dongles is bullshit and Apple knows it. This is their way of ripping off the consumer and that includes their ridiculous price tags for under specced products.

I have got the first Mac book Pro with Retina display from late 2012. Core I5 8Gb Ram and SSD Drive Catalina runs fine.

@ianpan0102

4 жыл бұрын

same

can you do similar video for MacBook Pro 2014? A complete wipeout, format, but on Catalina fresh install... without all the junk files, previously accumulated apps

When it comes to support of this laptop in the future, i'll say that apple were selling mid-2012 MBP up to 2016. And also when it comes to raw cpu power it outperforms newer MBAirs. That makes me think that it'll be supported for a few more years/versions.

@WarriorsPhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Good rebuttal, I hope you are correct.

@jscorpio1987

4 жыл бұрын

If it does get “cut off”, check out dosdude1. He’s a lifesaver. Apple’s minimum system requirements are more marketing than reality. They cut Macs off from updates for the sole purpose of getting you to buy a new Mac, not because your computer literally can’t run the latest macOS.

@WarriorsPhoto

4 жыл бұрын

@@jscorpio1987 I agree with you. I've seen plenty of Apple computers that could run the latest versions of Mac OS but they can't via the basic install. dosdude1, is one of my heroes. (:

@TheJudge064

4 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the info about it outperforming the MBAs. I don't think that that's correct.

@DJ-yh8hm

4 жыл бұрын

Ishan Ghimire Me neither and newer MacBook Air models can run Sidecar while older MacBook pros can’t

I’m still using a 2007 iMac for music production

I have one of those I use for school. I threw in a 240GB SSD and 16GB DDR3. Works great, even on Catalina

I have Catalina on a 2009 Macbook pro upgraded with a SSD. It works.

macOS Catalina is the first OS i have not installed on release since Leopard, going to wait until next year...

@Salvage1

4 жыл бұрын

Talk about forced obsole$cence. Catalina drops support of 32bit programs, giving the excuse better use of resources. Yet Microsoft Windows 10 can run the equivalent 32bit programs, and older programs under XP Compatibility Mode. And Windows 10 can run Macs not good enough for Catalina or Mojave. Apple - buy our newer stuff only. Mojave - release 2018 Hardware Requirements: MacBook Early 2015 or newer - 3 year old machine iMac Pro 2017 - 1 year old machine Not that Windows is better, but it illustrates that Apple is only giving lip service in pursuit of profit. On the sad side, with Microsoft again pushing hardware, expect them to copy Apple. $$$

@gregthompson7793

4 жыл бұрын

@@Salvage1 Apple gave app developers over 2 years to update their software to 64 bit. If they didn't that is on them. We have had 64 bit since the Power Mac G5 days so just when should we drop support for 32 bit then?

@Pasi123

4 жыл бұрын

2006 Macs with Core Duo CPUs are 32 bit. Core2 Duo and up are 64 bit

@ThePaulcarter35

4 жыл бұрын

I have to agree with the annoyance about apple forcing 32bit app support out the door - windows will continue to support 32bit for a good few years to come, so it shows apple doesn't have to do it. That and the removal over other things like native raid support means ill be sticking with el capitan for the forseeable

@gregthompson7793

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePaulcarter35 Then continue to use Mojave. Apple isn't forcing you to use Catalina. If apple did it next year you would complain then and if they waited 2 years you would complain then. Can't please everyone. Time for 32 bit apps to die or get updated.

Please playa, I’m running macOS Catalina on a 2007 iMac. And it runs smooths. And everything works properly

@shaarz8706

4 жыл бұрын

how dode it work in your mac I am trying to run it on a 2009 mac os desktop and wont run properly to slow and it ruined my new version of garageband 'HELP'

Still running my 2012 Macbook Pro non retina. Last year my Hard Drive went out so I had to replace it with a SSD and I upgraded the ram as well now I'm running 10 GB of RAM with a 256 GB SSD. My Mac still runs like a champ.

I have the Mid 2012 13" Mac Pro running Catalina and it still has the crappy 5400 HDD with 8g of RAM, the boot up is a little slow but after its running its Awesome!!

I think you can install 16GB of Ram in this Mac BOOK Pro 13" and ssd

@Bustycat

4 жыл бұрын

My friend owns a mid-2012 MacBook Pro with 16 GB of RAM so it is true.

@HoLDoN4Sec

4 жыл бұрын

i have both 2011 and 2012 13" MBP's with 16GB of ram...

@HoeMannenDenken

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bustycat Yep, me too

3:18 TL;DR: Forget to even thinking about installing Chrome, in the 1st place...

@alanmay7929

4 жыл бұрын

John Siket you sux!

@nicholashoi3155

4 жыл бұрын

@@alanmay7929 like my vacuum cleaner

@sirbonple

4 жыл бұрын

yeah use firefox (/s)

@nicholashoi3155

4 жыл бұрын

@@sirbonple yes

@astraldelirium4122

4 жыл бұрын

Chrome would have taken longer to install, since it's a RAM hog. Firefox Quantum is so much better.

I work with a Catalina hacked white MacBook 2010...I edit videos using final cut with just 4GB Ram...the SSD makes all the difference

Nice videos :) I have a MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2013) and it still has El Capitan. I need to use the last version of Keynote to "Collaborate" online and I still don't know if it will be a good deal for my 8GM mac...

Hello guys! Im a student who is looking for a cheap mbp for simple stuff such as internet browsing, youtube, netflix, word, power point and excel. Other than that i need a laptop that is capable of some lite 1080p editing and rendering. Would you recommend the 2012 upgradable mbp? I really dont care about the non retina screen and software updates, i just need something thats going to be reliable with programs i mentined above. Also, if buying it, i definitely plan on upgrading ram to at least 8 gigs ans getting an ssd

@TheJudge064

4 жыл бұрын

Hmmm... word and excel runs well on that macbook pro, and even on the air models of that generation. The screen is a bit low res though, so netflix and youtube aren't a great experience. It will also do light 1080p video editing well too, depending on what config you get. I think you'd be better served with something a touch more new. What's your budget.

@CukiTop5

4 жыл бұрын

Ishan Ghimire Hey thanks for the reply 🙏🏼 My budget is around 300€. But since i live im Serbia you can only get a 2013 air or a 2012 pro for that money (i5 model)

@arjunpatel1641

4 жыл бұрын

Cuki a 2012 should work fine given that you upgrade to an SSD and 8gb ram minimum!

@andresserna

3 жыл бұрын

@@arjunpatel1641 @Cuki and if you have the budget you should give it 16gb ram so it'll be smooth af when editing

I’m running it on a mid 2009 with 4GB of ram and a 512GB SSD

@davidporter1285

3 жыл бұрын

how is it for you?

@christiancarter7563

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidporter1285 it ran pretty well. I recently moved up to a 2010 with 16GB of ram. But the 09 was almost just as fast.

@davidporter1285

3 жыл бұрын

@@christiancarter7563 didnt encounter any problems with it? Im deciding if i should update mine to mojave or catalina

I have that same MBPro but upgraded 16 mb ram and SSd. Looks like I’ll be ok.

I’ve got a 2013 MaBook Pro 13 inch and it seems to run it decently.

minimum requirements you mean on "The Macbook", right? lol

Wait. I can’t run it on my upgraded Mac Pro 2010? :(

@teemubjorkbacka7714

4 жыл бұрын

It’s running just fine withmy mid 2010 with an SSD and 8Gb RAM

@arjunpatel1641

4 жыл бұрын

Google macOS Catalina Patcher

One of the first thing I did for my MacBook 2012 was to replace the hdd by an ssd, then removing the optical drive to add an hdd and finally putting 8gb of ram. Computer is still solid today.

Hi luke, I updated my Macbook Pro 2012 yesterday, the only issue I'm having is that Apple Arcade games will not download, just giving me a "itunes cannot process purchases at this time " message. Any ideas?

I love how these “upgrades” always manage to make some of my paid software non-functional! Legacy software support totally sucks on a Mac. This is one area where Windows 10 totally destroys MacOS.

@UltraKryptonian

4 жыл бұрын

Bobby Brady And there lies the problem. The software developers won’t update their programs for the latest Mac update, but will offer you their latest version for a price. Very common on Macs. Windows, however, has pretty good support for legacy software and hardware.

I am going to wait for MacOS “San Francisco”

@lukemiani

4 жыл бұрын

Kinda like that name ngl

@noneofyourbuisness7

4 жыл бұрын

Includes integrated antivirus protection for dirty sidewalk needles and feces protection

@augustogalindo8687

4 жыл бұрын

Actually the name is nice XD

@thomasjcox

4 жыл бұрын

Nah rumor has it it’ll be called Sequoia

@SuperMatrix59

4 жыл бұрын

37375 nope I’m waiting for Mac South Bronx!

The jumping safari is kinda cute🤪

I have a MBP 2012 Mid summer but with 16 mb and Catalina work well. I can even use Parallels without any problem.

catalina ditches support for 32bit apps.. if you wanna know what apps you have that are 32bit go to system report then "Software" - "applications". gonna stick with high sierra for a while because of this

@alliejr

4 жыл бұрын

Henry Milkha This has been in the works FOR TEN YEARS. If you’re still running 32 bit stuff then it’s either poorly ported from Linux and/or it’s abandon-ware. Find other solutions.

@henrymilkha6700

4 жыл бұрын

@@alliejr alright.... I think you're a bit more angry than you should be for Luke's comment section. Adobe photoshop CS6 on my MacBook pro retina 2015 15" is 32bit and my Mac Pro 5,1. AND a bunch of audio analysis software too (which I use at work). maybe you should get a job - see what software companies actually use. Microsoft Office 2011 is still in use in hundreds of thousands of places and its 32bit. maybe i don't want to pay for office again... I just posted my comment as some users won't be aware of this and have to spend hundreds of dollars on new software. I think you should find other solutions for your attitude because people won't want to be around you.

It's a shame that the system requirements for macOS are so ridiculously high. I've got the current build of Windows 10 running on a 13 year old laptop (yes, from 2006) with a Core Duo processor (not even Core 2 Duo) just 3GB of RAM and a hard drive. It runs quite fast. Sure, that's an extreme example, but as I said, Windows 10 run really well on it. Not only that, but the current build of Windows 10, runs faster than previous builds and on some older computers on which Windows 10 was unusable on, due to it running slowly, it now runs fine. My main laptop is from 2011, with a second gen Core i5 and it's more than fast enough for what I use it for. If I wanted to, I could no doubt use this computer for years to come and it would still be able to run the newest builds of Windows 10 when they are released, with no issues.

@funnycrow4462

4 жыл бұрын

What laptops are these very curious, because windows 10 runs like shorn on old/cheap hardware

@rogerm1111

4 жыл бұрын

@@funnycrow4462 Some examples are a Toshiba Qosmio G30 and Portege M400, a Compal HEL80 , Dell Vostro 1000 and Lenovo ThinkPad x61s, three of which were released in 2006 and the other two in 2007. Windows 10 runs really well on them. Even Edge is really fast. I used them as examples, as they are my oldest laptops. To speed up the visuals, I go to Performance Options and select "Adjust for best performance." I then renable "Smooth edges of screen fonts" and "Show window contents when dragging." I've got a number of other old computes I'm running Windows 10 on too. Windows 10, won't run well on the low end laptop being sold for $200 or so, which have only 2GB of RAM and 32GB of stroage, as neither is adequate.

I have 32 gb on my iMac I love the ram cache that OS X does. I just leave mine on it usually has all the spare ram used as cache. I have an external thunderbolt ssd. As an experiment I went back to the fusion drive and it was hard to notice once everything is cached.

the thing about the recent mac's (esp imac's) are hard to put an ssd in, you have to use a blow dryer to unglue the screen so you can take it off to put a ssd in. and apple had also solder the memory in so you can't upgrade the memory on 2014 or later with a few exceptions.

*everyone here using macbooks and apple machines and me just in the corner using a raspberry pi 3B*

@moritzclauss4497

4 жыл бұрын

🤣

@msinfo32

4 жыл бұрын

@@moritzclauss4497 good for making websites though!

@icanc0

4 жыл бұрын

heehehehhe me here on pi 4

@msinfo32

4 жыл бұрын

@@icanc0 I want one but not worth my time, buying a cheap laptop

@icanc0

4 жыл бұрын

JakeFox wai how old r u?

my old 2010 pro with ssd is as fast with my air 2019. both with catalina.

@yupopout5615

4 жыл бұрын

pbatacan how did you install Catalina on your 2010 MacBook Pro?

@charity9685

4 жыл бұрын

Yupo Pout with patcher ,watch tutorials dude

I have a 2012 MacBook Pro with 8gb of ram and SSD, is it worth upgrading from Mojave to Catalina?

I recently buy a 2012 13 inch MacBook Pro with an intel i7 an 8gb of ram and with a 500 gb ssd and Mac OS Catalina and is running super fast an is really really fantastic

yo. try something older with dosdude patch :D

@gabesz

4 жыл бұрын

I have a mid 2010 13" and Catalina works at a same speed as Mojave did with an SSD and 4GB of RAM on this computer

@peak3590

4 жыл бұрын

Gábor Tolnai how did you get it done with a usb or just updating it cause mine won’t let me download I have the same laptop it had Mojave’s on it

@Bustycat

4 жыл бұрын

So those 2012 machines can work until 2029 or later.

@sneedsneed460

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bustycat Catch me in 2029 at Starbucks using my antiglare mid-2012 15" on its 10th dosdude patch

@richarddcrossley

4 жыл бұрын

just got 2009 Mac mini and a 2010 MacBook running amazing using that (both with SSD)

Catalina has too many bugs I went back to Mojave and my Mac is smooth stay away from catalina beta

@axethepenguin

4 жыл бұрын

It's the beta ofc it's gonna be unstable

I have a MacBook Pro (mid 2012, non retina 13 inch, core i5, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD) and it runs very good for what I need

when I was younger I had a 2009 macbook (white) and had it up until last year and I had to use a windows laptop until I could buy a new mac because it was so slow. Now I have a 2015 macbook pro and it works great!