How We Imagined Pop Music Would Evolve

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Is this the future of Pop music? In this episode I discuss Willow's new song "Symptom of Life" which alternates between a 7/4 verse and a 4/4 chorus, as well as utilizing sophisticated melodic and harmonic structures. 30 years ago, this was how I envisioned pop music would sound in the year 2024.
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  • @TheSeeking2know
    @TheSeeking2know8 күн бұрын

    This is the most excited Rick has ever been about any modern pop music. Good work Willow and her collaborators!

  • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    6 күн бұрын

    I do think he would really appreciate Kali Uchis, although it's obvious Willow is aiming even way higher.

  • @franklopez4028
    @franklopez40287 күн бұрын

    One of things that blows me away about this song is how they fit all of this into an incredibly clear and focused mix.

  • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    6 күн бұрын

    She is very clever. Most of her songs go right to the point: they clearly display all of their innovative and interesting musical elements in a concise way (a minute and a half on average). She really is onto something here, she is creating an effective gateway from pop into jazz (something guys like Stevie Wonder or D'Angelo tried but failed to do imo). Maybe George Benson already did it, but in a more direct and less "daring" way. (He is still the singer/guitarist GOAT for me. 😅)

  • @thedude4594

    @thedude4594

    6 күн бұрын

    That’s tiny desk

  • @franklopez4028

    @franklopez4028

    5 күн бұрын

    @@thedude4594 I was talking about record but 💯 to TD as well.

  • @patientmental875

    @patientmental875

    13 сағат бұрын

    @@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 She is really onto something or is the person who wrote, arranged & produced it onto something?

  • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    12 сағат бұрын

    @@patientmental875 She is too. It's true producers have tremendous input in their artists' direction, but one can really tell apart those who input their own artistry in their stuff (Willow, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, George Benson, Michael Jackson, The Beatles) from those that only follow orders or hire others to do the heavy lifting (Taylor Swift, Drake, Milli Vanilly, all the modern K-Pop groups). If we discredit musicians for following directions from producers, then we would have to discredit bands like The Beatles, Queen or Pink Floyd too. Most musical artists aren't total auteurs like Zappa or Prince in the first place, they are the exception.

  • @Stallagmite
    @Stallagmite7 күн бұрын

    She actually goes deeper than people realize by incorporating Persian and Middle Eastern vocal techniques when she adds those fast vocal breaks, sometimes by kind of beating her chest. The beauty of it is that it fits so well you almost can't tell it's from another singing tradition.

  • @TheLYagAmi
    @TheLYagAmi6 күн бұрын

    This song really is a hidden gem. The isolated piano sounds absolutely heavenly. Rick makes songs so much richer with these deep dives.

  • @DangleSan

    @DangleSan

    4 күн бұрын

    Bro let's stop fooling ourselves, A bunch of Berkeley musicians are using a Hollywood child for popularity, I can't believe Rick praised willows singing🤦🏽 Well he couldn't recognize the AI voices but his wife and son could so this says something she's mid at best, She's like someone doing an impression of a really good singer gets way too crazy with her vocal ad libs it's CRINGE

  • @zentekno

    @zentekno

    4 күн бұрын

    @@DangleSan Yep. It's better than Whip My Hair, at least. Rick should check out Haitus Kaiote if hasn't already, that's the stuff.

  • @custum18
    @custum188 күн бұрын

    I give her credit for really working to improve and not just cruise on her name and simple pop/punk music.

  • @Kasino80

    @Kasino80

    8 күн бұрын

    I'd completely forgotten she's a Smith.

  • @minmogrovingstrongandhealthy

    @minmogrovingstrongandhealthy

    8 күн бұрын

    @@Kasino80 Hopefully the ego wont take over like the rest of them. Everyone in that family is mentally off ... she maybe the last hope.

  • @EchoMountain47

    @EchoMountain47

    8 күн бұрын

    Yeah, I mean to be fair, if she was feeling the pop punk music and that was authentic for her, more power to her. This, however, is something that actually catches my interest

  • @EchoMountain47

    @EchoMountain47

    8 күн бұрын

    @@Kasino80 right? I would be less hesitant to engage with this admittedly good music if it didn’t have that name on it. I just cannot stand that family, but she does deserve the chance to be evaluated on her own merits, so I’m trying to stay open minded

  • @ItsSomeDeadGuy

    @ItsSomeDeadGuy

    8 күн бұрын

    Her pop punk music wasn't that simple, though. Some really interesting song structures and progression. And it's not like that's all she's been doing.

  • @ChrisEldridgeKino
    @ChrisEldridgeKino8 күн бұрын

    If there's one thing Rick loves it's non-standard and unpredictable chord progressions

  • @ChristianMonfreudCesar

    @ChristianMonfreudCesar

    8 күн бұрын

    😂😂 facts💯

  • @RCAvhstape

    @RCAvhstape

    8 күн бұрын

    Because it makes music fun to listen to, not boring like so much mainstream garbage out there.

  • @ChristopherPhillips

    @ChristopherPhillips

    8 күн бұрын

    He must love Radiohead 😅

  • @InventorZahran

    @InventorZahran

    8 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@ChristopherPhillipsThanks to Radiohead, I-III-IV-iv is not so uncommon anymore.

  • @knaz7468

    @knaz7468

    8 күн бұрын

    Him and Adam for sure!

  • @Jack_Simpson
    @Jack_Simpson6 күн бұрын

    Trilling with the break of your voice while staying in tune is actually insane and takes soooo much control and awareness. She’s something special

  • @scifiwriter98

    @scifiwriter98

    6 күн бұрын

    That's why I don't think it's really her singing.

  • @Jack_Simpson

    @Jack_Simpson

    6 күн бұрын

    @@scifiwriter98 Given the recordings of live performances of her I’ve seen, my money’s on it being her.

  • @EtymTV

    @EtymTV

    3 күн бұрын

    @@scifiwriter98that was tiny desk concert which is absolutely live

  • @AbaMiguel

    @AbaMiguel

    Күн бұрын

    @@scifiwriter98 what makes you say that? She's been singing her whole life

  • @gregheckman
    @gregheckman7 күн бұрын

    Even if she isn't your thing... You HAVE to recognize the genius and sheer ingenuity of her music. Never mind the fact she is writing REALLY catchy modern jazz. Love it.

  • @neiladlington950

    @neiladlington950

    6 күн бұрын

    Yeah, the modern jazz part was a surprise. I don't listen to pop music as I usually prefer anything but... And the last time I heard anything from Willow it was that "whip my hair" thing? But damn, that girl has come a long way and you don't get there without some serious commitment and practice. I can listen to this.

  • @alex24mamba

    @alex24mamba

    6 күн бұрын

    Not my style at all, but I respect her voice, talent, and damn those musicians killed it.

  • @KenBreadbox

    @KenBreadbox

    5 күн бұрын

    @@neiladlington950 Thank you for that bit of context. I absolutely DETEST that "whip my hair" crap. Hard to believe it's the same person.

  • @TheGnuisancev3

    @TheGnuisancev3

    5 күн бұрын

    she's a rich kid who's been a pop rapper, then pop punk rocker and now this. she's grown up in Hollywood, a truly privileged life and I'd be curious how much of this was constructed by people around her. Great song and I wish pop would go this way. but there's nothing ground-up or organic about her.

  • @gregheckman

    @gregheckman

    5 күн бұрын

    ​@@TheGnuisancev3you really need to read the credits a bit better. The early stuff (which I don't care for) war written and produced for her. The newer records? All her. That's a musical genius pushing through. Just sayin.

  • @Keverember
    @Keverember8 күн бұрын

    I didn’t have Willow Smith putting out a catchy jazz-influenced pop song in 7 on my 2024 bingo card.

  • @Cloudbuster1987

    @Cloudbuster1987

    8 күн бұрын

    You better listen to the album, it's great. Not just this song.

  • @C.SchitzPopinov

    @C.SchitzPopinov

    8 күн бұрын

    😆

  • @i-never-look-at-replies-lol

    @i-never-look-at-replies-lol

    8 күн бұрын

    But does she really have anything to do with it? The music industry just attaches name to other people's work.

  • @Keverember

    @Keverember

    8 күн бұрын

    @@i-never-look-at-replies-lol she’s credited as a writer, but you never know. But I do know that executing that melody is extremely impressive regardless.

  • @junkandcrapamen

    @junkandcrapamen

    8 күн бұрын

    Actually, she's released two. Check out "Big Feelings". Also in 7 and also fire.

  • @liquidsolids9415
    @liquidsolids94158 күн бұрын

    David Bennet Piano has two videos on this song, including an interview with the piano player where he talks about the chord voicings. Cool song!

  • @LukasVlcek

    @LukasVlcek

    7 күн бұрын

    This needs to be the pinned comment.

  • @lawsonj39

    @lawsonj39

    6 күн бұрын

    Yep. In one, he interviews the pianist who helped write the song; apparently a team put the chords and rhythms together then handed it over to Willow to create the melody and lyrics. Sounds a lot like the descriptions I've heard of Taylor Swift's process, but the end product here is way different.

  • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    6 күн бұрын

    ​@@lawsonj39Yup, but it's actually a totally different proccess. The Beatles did the same as Willow, they worked with a group of genius producers and session musicians, but they thenselves had the musical ability to discern what to use and how to combine it with their songwriting, same thing for The Rolling Stones (in their early days) or The Beach Boys (Brian Wilson actually had huge creative input in the whole process, but he did use tons of session musicians to his advantage) or even more recently Michael Jackson. What Taylor does is: she pays Max Martin to do EVERYTHING FOR HER, to discern the simplest shortcut to go viral and, that's it. She is the antipode of musical creativity in a way.

  • @jwallaby7895

    @jwallaby7895

    5 күн бұрын

    @@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266if she gels with the musical process i think its a bit harsh to call her the antipode of creativity lol. She probably deserves to be thought of as a session vocalist at worst. But i figure most pop" artists" just dont deserve all the credit...literally look at the credits of most songs....its anywhere between 5 and 13 ppl on average.

  • @liquidsolids9415

    @liquidsolids9415

    5 күн бұрын

    @@LukasVlcek Thank you!

  • @peachmelba1000
    @peachmelba10007 күн бұрын

    Kind of brings to mind aspects of Joni Mitchell, Fiona Apple, Ivana Santilli, Tori Amos

  • @lostinmybackyard2006

    @lostinmybackyard2006

    6 күн бұрын

    And Ian Anderson. I swear it's like listening to 1972 Jethro Tull.

  • @intellectualesemv

    @intellectualesemv

    2 күн бұрын

    I was just thinking it'd be cool to hear Tori Amos cover this

  • @leorduran

    @leorduran

    2 сағат бұрын

    YES!!!!

  • @Tanshanomi
    @Tanshanomi7 күн бұрын

    As a musical dunderhead, I so appreciate someone who points out the specific elements I should be appreciating but don’t know enough to pick out or understand on my own.

  • @mortonwilson795
    @mortonwilson7958 күн бұрын

    Those first few piano bars just grab you and then there's no escape . . . wow, what a song, singer, band. There's hope, then!

  • @EchoMountain47

    @EchoMountain47

    8 күн бұрын

    I agree. Some in the comments are saying it’s more of an intellectual exercise and that it has no hook, but I find it immediately gripping - and trust me, I don’t want to! I really don’t like the Smith family lol but this is too good to deny

  • @cooldebt

    @cooldebt

    8 күн бұрын

    That opening piano sounds a bit like the intro of Message in a Bottle

  • @MrJesse1288

    @MrJesse1288

    8 күн бұрын

    I was thinking that the weird time play was very Copeland-esqe

  • @nath9233

    @nath9233

    8 күн бұрын

    ​@@cooldebt 100% the same

  • @jamesgulapa7219

    @jamesgulapa7219

    8 күн бұрын

    There's hope... that's what i said as well

  • @JonManos
    @JonManos8 күн бұрын

    Nice to hear new pop music going completely over my head for a change

  • @muzikgod

    @muzikgod

    8 күн бұрын

    It's not pop music which is why it went over your head!

  • @InventorZahran

    @InventorZahran

    8 күн бұрын

    @@muzikgodIt's too advanced to be pop!

  • @chuckamok12

    @chuckamok12

    7 күн бұрын

    @@muzikgod of course it's pop, it has a catchy melody and a solid beat - it's pop.

  • @OdaKa

    @OdaKa

    6 күн бұрын

    I feel like normal pop music goes over most heads

  • @muzikgod

    @muzikgod

    6 күн бұрын

    @@OdaKa Do you think this song is pop music?

  • @thewhim8151
    @thewhim8151Күн бұрын

    "She's so talented but I don't like her because of her parents" is such an INSANE take, can y'all hear yourselves?!?!

  • @poppolooii8000
    @poppolooii80004 күн бұрын

    Her band is definitely a group of musical talented and passionate people who love the art

  • @rudebuddha4895
    @rudebuddha48958 күн бұрын

    I heard Willow's "Meet Me At Our Spot" a few weeks ago because someone used a clip of it on a "short" YT video showing how to clean a dogs ears. I got out my phone and Shazam'd it. I was blown away watching the official artist video and wondered how this was released two years ago and just now heard it. Stange times for discovering new music and their non-traditional ways of getting sun in the dense forest of new artists and music. So I'm thrilled to see Rick highlighting her exceptional talent.

  • @limer4330

    @limer4330

    8 күн бұрын

    Meet me at our spot is a cool tune.

  • @tetianadmytrenko6089

    @tetianadmytrenko6089

    7 күн бұрын

    Oh God, cleaning dogs' ears😅 this is a modern way of discovering the music.

  • @BlakeH..888_

    @BlakeH..888_

    7 күн бұрын

    The only songs I've heard from her are Meet Me at Our Spot and Wait a Minute and I enjoyed both of them a lot even though they're not what I usually listen to.

  • @lynnestong7286

    @lynnestong7286

    6 күн бұрын

    I’m a 60 year old Grandmom that mainly likes rock music & When I heard “Meet Me at Our Spot” (the live version on KZread) for the first time, I was in love with it. For some reason it gives me a strong feeling of nostalgia. (longing for my youth I guess lol) And then I heard her song “ Wait A Minute”. And I liked it too 😮. I surprised myself because I was always just about rock n roll…She has a beautiful & unique voice and style.

  • @theoldkidrocker

    @theoldkidrocker

    6 күн бұрын

    I forgot about that song "Meet Me At Our Spot" I heard it when Kelly Clarkson did a Kellyoke of it when it came out so I looked up Willows Original and really liked it... I saved it to a list this time lol great tune and her talent was shining then.....

  • @descendingforth
    @descendingforth8 күн бұрын

    That whole Tiny Desk performance is just amazing. It truly blew me away!

  • @iiwi758

    @iiwi758

    8 күн бұрын

    The people behind Tiny Desk have excellent taste and a good sense for what fits their format. Nearly all performances they put together are interesting in some way.

  • @theoriginalheartstrummer

    @theoriginalheartstrummer

    8 күн бұрын

    Seriously? Willow sounds like Yoko Ono to me. No-technique caterwauling; just that empty hot-air that passes for emotion typical of the expression of most "woke" people her age. The rhythm and harmony may have more going on than a lot of modern pop, but so what? That doesn't make it exceptional by any means. OMG it's in SEVEN! Big deal. Just because Rick thinks it's "cool" doesn't mean anything to me. It just sounds so fake and plastic. I WISH it had substance, but why would I expect that from Willow Smith?

  • @descendingforth

    @descendingforth

    7 күн бұрын

    @@theoriginalheartstrummer but surely you have to respect the musicians that are playing in the video??? I was talking about the tiny desk performance not Willow Smith as a musician🤦‍♂️

  • @descendingforth

    @descendingforth

    7 күн бұрын

    @@theoriginalheartstrummer What a boring take as well. Its a well put together performance and it sounds great why can't you just admit that?

  • @andrewthompson7707

    @andrewthompson7707

    7 күн бұрын

    ​@@descendingforthit's just fast-paced passages put together there's no Unforgettable hook or Rift there

  • @stephenroth3299
    @stephenroth32997 күн бұрын

    This is why I love today's new wave of Emo coming out. Jazzy, mathy, and beautiful choruses with heart breaking lyrics

  • @ericnowak9497

    @ericnowak9497

    7 күн бұрын

    What artists are spearheading this wave?

  • @stephenroth3299

    @stephenroth3299

    7 күн бұрын

    @@ericnowak9497 arm's Length, Ben Quad, Carly Cosgrove, Hot Mulligan

  • @stephenroth3299

    @stephenroth3299

    7 күн бұрын

    @@ericnowak9497 oh, and Sweet Pill

  • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

    6 күн бұрын

    Nice to know. The good kind of emo 😅

  • @shaunfogarty5744

    @shaunfogarty5744

    5 күн бұрын

    This is NOT EMO!!! Good GOD!!! Wrong Label dude... Let Willow be Willow.

  • @coolbluerecharge
    @coolbluerecharge7 күн бұрын

    Not gonna lie, this has me whipping my hair back and forth.

  • @AlicePBrigole

    @AlicePBrigole

    3 күн бұрын

    Best

  • @sleven8013
    @sleven80138 күн бұрын

    I’m a prog metal/rock kind of guy with a bit of 90s grunge love sprinkled with jazz fusion and this really tickles my fancy. Didn’t know modern pop could sound this good. Bangin!

  • @mdav30

    @mdav30

    8 күн бұрын

    Rick just hopes this is the future of pop because he loves jazz. No way. This is jazz, will remain not "pop" for that reason.

  • @geepike

    @geepike

    8 күн бұрын

    @@mdav30 in an ideal world music like this, Fiona Apple, Eryka Badu, Joni Mitchell etc could kick off again in a big way as a knee jerk 180• of whats going on in pop a la The Grunge scene in the 90s. Not likely, but not impossible. Im confident noone was betting on the “Whip My Hair” Smith daughter putting THIS out, so…theres always hope haha

  • @harimathur2191

    @harimathur2191

    8 күн бұрын

    It's not really modern. It's old school genX type song. Very 90s piano, Seal-like... bass line is dead 90s. Beats are 90s.

  • @thomasluby1754

    @thomasluby1754

    8 күн бұрын

    I give your comment an "F". Could you be any more specific?

  • @davidherdman5549

    @davidherdman5549

    8 күн бұрын

    Me too and me too

  • @ButterWilliam
    @ButterWilliam8 күн бұрын

    The future of pop is Joni Mitchell, love it

  • @fortheloveofmusic192

    @fortheloveofmusic192

    8 күн бұрын

    I was feeling the Joni vibe as well. No issues with that.

  • @rundoetx

    @rundoetx

    8 күн бұрын

    I agree.

  • @maxzape9003

    @maxzape9003

    8 күн бұрын

    Beat me to it! Joni would be proud.

  • @ScottsGuitar

    @ScottsGuitar

    8 күн бұрын

    Funny I was at Tori Amos but yea, same lineage lol

  • @davidlee5580

    @davidlee5580

    8 күн бұрын

    @@ScottsGuitarYeah the piano had me thinking of Tori

  • @richardleveille3254
    @richardleveille32546 күн бұрын

    My 16 year-old son introduced me to Willow a couple of years ago. She is awesome! One of the few “new” pop artists I regularly listen to.

  • @mugen-PT
    @mugen-PTКүн бұрын

    And there were people on Instagram hating in the comments ... Honestly, nothing gets a chance anymore. Happy to hear an opinion from someone who knows what they're talking about.

  • @acason4
    @acason48 күн бұрын

    Willow Smith is a A++ vocalist. Her album “Coping Mechanism” is really incredible. The vocal melodies & half the songs on the album are bangers!

  • @kennethwilliams4725

    @kennethwilliams4725

    6 күн бұрын

    I'm gonna go and check it out!!!

  • @acason4

    @acason4

    6 күн бұрын

    @@kennethwilliams4725 Check out: Curious/Furious No Control Maybe It’s My Fault Split Why Coping Mechanism All incredible tracks & the vocal work (melodies & harmonies) is some of the greatest vocal work I’m ever heard. The album is kind of like Deftones meets “pop/punk” which might sound strange, but damn does she pull it off. I was really blown away. Hope you like it.

  • @kuntbae3773

    @kuntbae3773

    6 күн бұрын

    wrong, it’s awful

  • @acason4

    @acason4

    6 күн бұрын

    @@kuntbae3773 Nah, you’re wrong.

  • @neladesign

    @neladesign

    2 күн бұрын

    Her capability of sing other rhythms including rock (hard one) shows her habillities to do whatever what she would like to do, because its a grean musician and impresive singer, not all pop singers could do that!

  • @LetsGoBruins77
    @LetsGoBruins778 күн бұрын

    Happy you covered this!

  • @xanthippas
    @xanthippas3 күн бұрын

    Man, I wish I could hear even 1/10 of what Rick picks up in a song. Maybe if I watch enough of these videos one day I will!

  • @viceshark
    @viceshark7 күн бұрын

    There are sounds that force me to tears. I truly can't do a thing about it. This performance is absolutely one of them.

  • @Les00970

    @Les00970

    7 күн бұрын

    Me too,but not Willow Smith. Jeff Beck JB'S Blues, Dead can Dance-Senvean,Sade ..........

  • @Steve_ATL
    @Steve_ATL8 күн бұрын

    I came across this Tiny Desks the other day and was blow away. I am glad Willow is getting more complicated music out to the pop listeners.

  • @romeDCfc
    @romeDCfc8 күн бұрын

    I could listen to that over and over again. I'd struggle to categorize this as Pop, but that's another thing to me that makes the song interesting.

  • @yvltc

    @yvltc

    8 күн бұрын

    I agree, I can't say this is pop

  • @amylaw3416

    @amylaw3416

    8 күн бұрын

    Ya this is jazz. The future of jazz. Glad jazz is coming back into the mainstream. I LOVE Jazz pop.

  • @georgewoolf6300

    @georgewoolf6300

    8 күн бұрын

    Yep, this is Jazz... Rick is just overreacting because we have too much simple simon music today. It's a good song, but not honestly anything mind blowing or special, but then again I'm a Meshell Ndegeocello fan so my musical tastes are broad.

  • @vanessaseymour2634

    @vanessaseymour2634

    8 күн бұрын

    The entire album, Empathogen, is categorized as alternative jazz/pop.

  • @TheSeeking2know

    @TheSeeking2know

    8 күн бұрын

    Jazz was once the pop of it's day. The pop of the future is going to be a fusion of influences moving slightly away from the just the dance and R&B influences that have dominated.

  • @johnskilly
    @johnskilly7 күн бұрын

    Happy to see you are covering this, I saw this tiny desk show on my feed some months ago and was blown away by Willow´s performance.

  • @CypiXmusic
    @CypiXmusic5 күн бұрын

    Who knew the girl, that *_"whipped her hair back and forth"_* would come to safe Pop music

  • @DeeNeuro
    @DeeNeuro8 күн бұрын

    reminds me of Esperanza Spalding.

  • @jerryp3148

    @jerryp3148

    8 күн бұрын

    That's exactly what I was thinking...very interesting stuff.

  • @destinationsunnyside250

    @destinationsunnyside250

    8 күн бұрын

    👍

  • @tyrone2k

    @tyrone2k

    8 күн бұрын

    yes. My thoughts exactly.... which is good.

  • @tulp_graphics

    @tulp_graphics

    6 күн бұрын

    Also a bit of Lianne la Havas.

  • @blessing291

    @blessing291

    3 күн бұрын

    same thought too while watching her tiny desk performance ✋🏼

  • @ScentlessSun
    @ScentlessSun8 күн бұрын

    A song in 7! That is awesome. And they rocked it. Such a great vocal flow by Willow live.

  • @sidalientv

    @sidalientv

    8 күн бұрын

    "Tom Sawyer" and "Whitin you without you" entered the chat.

  • @starrr365
    @starrr365Күн бұрын

    This whole album is so great, I highly recommend listening to the whole thing

  • @donnyoung5481
    @donnyoung54818 күн бұрын

    Finally Willow getting the recognition she deserves. Her music is a breath of fresh air from what's out there today. The whole band is soo talented

  • @sleepyzebras_
    @sleepyzebras_8 күн бұрын

    I discovered this song few months back when David Bennett made a video on it. Such a unique pop song in today’s often copy of a copy musical landscape.

  • @Cosmoborracho
    @Cosmoborracho8 күн бұрын

    It's giving me a "If Tori Amos wrote Kiss From A Rose" vibe but at this point, that's blasphemous because it's in a whole 'nother universe of cool. Absolutely loving this!

  • @richardgreenwoodjr5263

    @richardgreenwoodjr5263

    8 күн бұрын

    Was getting Tori Amos vibes as well- glad I'm not the only one lol.

  • @nilsbauer6994

    @nilsbauer6994

    8 күн бұрын

    Oh that's actually a very good parallel / comparison. It's obviously it's own thing, but Toni Mitchell, Tori Amos and Kiss From A Rose definitely feel familiar to this. Loving it

  • @RoryRonde

    @RoryRonde

    8 күн бұрын

    that is actually a very good description!

  • @NRG2

    @NRG2

    8 күн бұрын

    Noooooo. Do not put the spawn of Will Smith in the same sentence as Tori Amos. The world is afflicted by every breath they take.

  • @jeffwolinski2659

    @jeffwolinski2659

    7 күн бұрын

    Ha, great analogy, I totally hear that!

  • @valentinabouffier6544
    @valentinabouffier65447 күн бұрын

    i was really hoping this video was made. its such a good sooooong!!

  • @fofopho
    @fofopho6 күн бұрын

    The original bass is amazing, but the way Mohini plays on it live is sooooo damn good

  • @kennethhoneycutt4513
    @kennethhoneycutt45138 күн бұрын

    Not to mention Dey-base on bass is killing it

  • @NikZ500

    @NikZ500

    8 күн бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXp_p9uYgrrdgc4.htmlsi=k1f5XDgAoh7plWgU Check her insane solo almost 10-12 years back

  • @scootaymildo1070

    @scootaymildo1070

    8 күн бұрын

    I was wondering if that was her. I've only been aware of her for the last month or so and my god, what a player!

  • @MrJohnnyAOA

    @MrJohnnyAOA

    8 күн бұрын

    She did not play the bass on the record. Still kicks a$$ on the tiny desk performance though

  • @kennethhoneycutt4513

    @kennethhoneycutt4513

    8 күн бұрын

    @@MrJohnnyAOA No, if you go back and look up tiny NPR Tiny desk, you will clearly see her. I don't know who played bass on the studio cut.But rick biano was Playing a clip from n p r along with the studio

  • @kennethhoneycutt4513

    @kennethhoneycutt4513

    8 күн бұрын

    @@scootaymildo1070 There is a show that I watch it's called NPR Tiny desk, that's the clip. He was, she was in her band on that. But I was just informed on here that that wasn't her in the studio cut.

  • @eximusic
    @eximusic8 күн бұрын

    Almost all the artists on tiny desk concerts are amazing. It's a good gauge of the quality of music coming out today. No shortage of brilliant artists in 2024. Funny how NPR, public radio, and public radio listeners all know this, but no one else seems to.

  • @rksnj6797

    @rksnj6797

    7 күн бұрын

    I love Tiny Desk Concerts!

  • @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson

    @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson

    7 күн бұрын

    KEXP is a great source too, especially for alt

  • @Iantrypsk

    @Iantrypsk

    7 күн бұрын

    @@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson both have some stinky music because is really diverse and is a good thing, brings you out of the algorithm bubble. You can create some powerful bubbles online.

  • @paulwooton4390

    @paulwooton4390

    7 күн бұрын

    NPR has some quality programs (case in point). Their news division isn't one of them...tedious sjw crusaders when an honest reporter would suffice.

  • @eximusic

    @eximusic

    7 күн бұрын

    @@paulwooton4390 Ok, not the topic. Kind of hard to reply to generalizations with no specifics.

  • @aaronorjohnson
    @aaronorjohnsonКүн бұрын

    The guitarist doin' some Jonny Greenwood stuff on that guitar and it adds such an effect to the song without overpowering other instruments.

  • @yonikup2865
    @yonikup28657 күн бұрын

    Thank you for introducing me to this amazing track!

  • @soundproductionandadvice
    @soundproductionandadvice8 күн бұрын

    The Pocket Queen on Drums. Last saw her with Greg Philanganes doing an Omnisphere live demo. She's superb.

  • @Tom-dv6ei

    @Tom-dv6ei

    8 күн бұрын

    Her and the bassist in that Tiny Desk video...Such a pleasure to watch them bounce of each other. They are so on it! and you can see they're truly enjoying what they're doing.

  • @krusher74

    @krusher74

    8 күн бұрын

    I thought Rick would know who she is, but no..........

  • @TimDaleMusic

    @TimDaleMusic

    8 күн бұрын

    Agreed, she was awesome on that Spectrasonics demo

  • @marshac1479

    @marshac1479

    8 күн бұрын

    ​@@krusher74 Indeed. He could have looked on the Tiny desk website to find out who she is and namechecked her. She's a great drummer.

  • @Itsleakim
    @Itsleakim8 күн бұрын

    Glad to see Rick excited about contemporary music again. There is so much cool new music being made. You just have to look for it and stop being annoyed at what's on the charts. Because let's be honest, was there ever a time when you liked the majority of the top 10 songs on the charts? (except for when ya'll where 14 years old?) A lot of our all time favourite songs never made it into the top 10, so why do we expect to find our new favourite songs there?

  • @EchoMountain47

    @EchoMountain47

    8 күн бұрын

    Thank you! Some welcomed words of wisdom around here. I don’t know why Rick grumbling about top 40 music has become so popular on the channel, but it is low effort, insulting to the intelligence of his audience and undermines his own open-mindedness. Much rather see him elevating the positive

  • @mar7838

    @mar7838

    8 күн бұрын

    I agree. Been saying this for a long time. There is so much amazing (pop) music being made right now. More than ever. My theory is that the new generations have all this great information available. And use it to make some amazing stuff. I think it's always more productive to praise the good artist than complaining about the boring songs in some Spotify Top 10. So I want to give credit to Rick. He made this video. And has made others where he speak to and about new artists who make great music. So we should really thank him to introduce his audience to Willow Smith. Hope we will hear more of her.

  • @stoneysdead689

    @stoneysdead689

    8 күн бұрын

    We don't- and you're missing the point. We don't expect to find what we like, but we expect to find something with at least some complexity and depth to it. Not two chord, pop culture, bubble gum that sounds like it was written on the way to the recording session. When I was a kid I hated pop music- but the stuff that was popular, was complex and difficult to play or figure out- the ppl who were performing it had obvious talent- even if it wasn't my kind of music. I can't say that any longer- nor can I even trust that this really is a popular song- the streaming services lie. The highest bidder gets their song at the top of the list- whether it's any good or not. Well- either the highest bidder or- their new AI artist. Think about the impact that's already having on the music scene. Think about the impact it has on our culture. It's not good.

  • @lzbgenna

    @lzbgenna

    8 күн бұрын

    My thoughts exactly. Happy that Rik is starting to discover or at least showcase a bit of the amazing music currently being produced. Hope this trend continues on the channel.

  • @seanbeadles7421

    @seanbeadles7421

    8 күн бұрын

    @@stoneysdead689the only time this was true was during the Tin Pan Alley days, and I bet you’re not 120. For example, every do-wop song in the 50s and 60s is basically one chord progression. There’s about a dozen different blues songs that have the Johnny b. Goode intro.

  • @soph.b6054
    @soph.b60547 күн бұрын

    Been non-stop listening to this album since it's release- glad you finally gave it a listen!

  • @GT-mq1dx
    @GT-mq1dx4 күн бұрын

    Melancholy yet uplifting, poppy but progressive. That was something new to my ears that I wish there would be more of in this day and age. There are a lot of gems out there, I guess you just have to be looking for them. This reminds me of two songs from a long time ago; Seal’s Kiss from a Rose and Peter Gabriel’s Games Without Frontiers. Both of them beautiful, each in its own right.

  • @LSchulz1414
    @LSchulz14148 күн бұрын

    There are a lot of special things going on (time signature, note choices, chords) and it still flows. Amazing balance between simplicity and complexity.

  • @EchoMountain47

    @EchoMountain47

    8 күн бұрын

    Did you maybe mean “complexity”?

  • @LSchulz1414

    @LSchulz1414

    7 күн бұрын

    @@EchoMountain47 yeah, now it makes a bit more sense. Thank You!

  • @titanicsinclair
    @titanicsinclair8 күн бұрын

    It's so cool to see Chris Greatti finally getting the praise he deserves as a writer/producer. I've had the pleasure to work with him a lot over the years. He's a genius producer and musician.

  • @thankyouforyourcompliance7386

    @thankyouforyourcompliance7386

    8 күн бұрын

    Everyone is a genius in today's US media. What about some humble approach and hard work.

  • @krusher74

    @krusher74

    8 күн бұрын

    Rick is such a flailing fangirl in this. Did not mention the writer producer once.

  • @seanandben

    @seanandben

    8 күн бұрын

    @@krusher74 The song was written by Willow, Chris Greatti & Brad Oberhofer, and produced by Chris Greatti. It seems like more of a Chris Greatti song that just happens to be sung by Willow - (an undoubtedly talented singer) - but that seems to be the way things are done with a lot of artists these days - multiple songwriters and in some cases multiple producers on hit records. Symptom of Life was released on March 12th, 2024, and until I saw Rick's over excited video today - June 17th - I never heard of Willow or the song.

  • @TheMister123

    @TheMister123

    8 күн бұрын

    @@seanandben David Bennett Piano did an interview with Brad Oberhofer over on his channel, published just a few days ago. Brad outlines who contributed what to the song. I haven't memorized the credits for the whole album yet, but I think Willow wrote some of the album on her own.

  • @writemeyers

    @writemeyers

    8 күн бұрын

    @@TheMister123thank you! I'll go check that out. The previous replies insinuating that Rick isn't crediting people or that this is only the result of multi-producers, seems to forget that most of that output is empty pablum.

  • @julianduarte1985
    @julianduarte19857 күн бұрын

    Starting the Beato Ear Training Course!!!! I hope someday I get to understand all kinds of music the way Rick does.

  • @stoatystoat174
    @stoatystoat1747 күн бұрын

    08:15 also love that drum roll. Feels like just the right amout of hits at just the right volume so it's pushing the tune from the middle of the mix

  • @ChristChickAutistic
    @ChristChickAutistic8 күн бұрын

    She's legit good, really good. Best thing to come out of that family, imho. Gives me hope that music isn't dead.

  • @Brucetheguitarist

    @Brucetheguitarist

    6 күн бұрын

    Thank you 🎉

  • @ChristChickAutistic

    @ChristChickAutistic

    6 күн бұрын

    @@Brucetheguitarist Um, you're welcome? I'm sorry, I just don't understand why you're thanking me, lol! 😁

  • @Brucetheguitarist

    @Brucetheguitarist

    6 күн бұрын

    @@ChristChickAutistic haha my bad I was meaning like thank you for saying this. A lot of hate comments on this post so it’s good to see some good ones

  • @ChristChickAutistic

    @ChristChickAutistic

    6 күн бұрын

    @@Brucetheguitarist I just don't see the point in all that, lol! I'm old school, I was raised that "if you can't say nothing nice, don't say anything", lol! More folks should learn that. She put out a banger song, period, she should have her flowers for it.

  • @dougbarrett43
    @dougbarrett438 күн бұрын

    Is anyone else getting Vince Guaraldi vibes from that piano progression?

  • @apmartini70

    @apmartini70

    8 күн бұрын

    Good call.

  • @slownsteady100

    @slownsteady100

    7 күн бұрын

    100%

  • @bar8393gm

    @bar8393gm

    7 күн бұрын

    I do now.

  • @sytsew

    @sytsew

    6 күн бұрын

    Some Tori Amos too here

  • @bencrozier
    @bencrozier6 күн бұрын

    Rick’s authentic passion for music is contagious! He’s like the uncle I wish I had that I could go to and learn from!

  • @paulmartin8212
    @paulmartin82123 күн бұрын

    I'm 70 years old, old rocker. Not my style but can appreciate the musicianship in 7. Amazing vocal too. Great band, really tight.

  • @junkandcrapamen
    @junkandcrapamen8 күн бұрын

    Was waiting for you to catch on to this awesomeness. The entire album "Empathogen" is fire.

  • @Albatross-365

    @Albatross-365

    8 күн бұрын

    cover looks weird. her natural smile would look better

  • @timangus
    @timangus8 күн бұрын

    Very reminiscent of Esperanza Spalding to my ear.

  • @bolder2009

    @bolder2009

    8 күн бұрын

    I agree

  • @nunnayabiz7911

    @nunnayabiz7911

    8 күн бұрын

    That's what I was thinking too.

  • @mkatepaski9947

    @mkatepaski9947

    8 күн бұрын

    Yes

  • @kybernes

    @kybernes

    7 күн бұрын

    Yes to some extent and to me that’s a huge compliment! And then there is much more… we shouldn’t reduce anybody to our references, right? I mean this gorgeous young lady is singing her heart out here! Wonderful!

  • @DirkLeibenguth
    @DirkLeibenguth8 күн бұрын

    Heard this song last week for the first time and I was totally blown away. I can listen to it over and over again and there’s always something to discover. A gem in todays mostly boring pop music 👏

  • @LosantoBeats
    @LosantoBeats16 сағат бұрын

    This song and most of the album just perfectly expresses the complexity of life. Being on beat, and off beat. "In tune" and "out of tune". Its beautiful.

  • @nickgjenkins
    @nickgjenkins8 күн бұрын

    I was NOT expecting this. What a cool song!!!!!

  • @fortheloveofmusic192
    @fortheloveofmusic1928 күн бұрын

    Crusty classic rocker here. This is good stuff! Even though there are a lot of things going on in this song, it doesn't sound over produced.

  • @EchoMountain47

    @EchoMountain47

    8 күн бұрын

    You make a good point. Impressive songs are complicated; the most impressive songs are complicated but sound simple. It’s hard to take all these musical ideas and make them sound so coherent and easy to listen to. I think everybody responsible for this track deserves a lot of credit for that

  • @geepike

    @geepike

    8 күн бұрын

    VERY heavily produced, but all to great purpose! 🔥 The band does a great job live and Willow sings well too

  • @cryaotiel
    @cryaotiel8 күн бұрын

    As soon as I heard it, and kept on listening it on loop again and again, I was hoping you'd react to it! So happy to see this video!

  • @willcartoons
    @willcartoons7 күн бұрын

    Nice to see R&B music still exists 🙂 Willow Smith's voice is amazing!

  • @bobboberson2024
    @bobboberson20248 күн бұрын

    Willow really knocks this out. A very cool jazzy vibe - with a vocal line Al Jarreau would be happy with. But it’s not something you walk out humming.

  • @pdkett1

    @pdkett1

    8 күн бұрын

    ..not recommended for Swifties unless accompanied by an adult when listening.

  • @arachnidiscs

    @arachnidiscs

    8 күн бұрын

    Yeah, I’d say this is not a pop song and is not the future of pop music. It’s an art song and sits comfortably in the grand tradition of Joni Mitchell and Tori Amos (though a bit funkier like if they’d had the Headhunters backing them).

  • @TheSeeking2know

    @TheSeeking2know

    8 күн бұрын

    That syncopated repeated section is definitely memorable to me.

  • @nowondr

    @nowondr

    7 күн бұрын

    @@TheSeeking2know yeah the harmonies are complex, but the main melodic stuff is pretty easy on the ears and memorable to me too. been stuck in my head

  • @VampireHeart518

    @VampireHeart518

    7 күн бұрын

    First off, I disagree, I find it quite ''hummable''. Secondly... what's with the 'but'? What do you mean? (is it about pop?)

  • @johngulak5721
    @johngulak57218 күн бұрын

    wow... she sings the hell out of that and the band is killer. Rick, this must be giving you some serious hope for the future...lol

  • @nadiauribe6202
    @nadiauribe62025 күн бұрын

    That tiny desk session is amazing. I like Willow's style

  • @ShilajitDasMahapatra
    @ShilajitDasMahapatra7 күн бұрын

    my absolute favorite song right now. it's my most played song in spotify since the last two months. So glad Rick did a breakdown of this!!

  • @Whitestripe71
    @Whitestripe718 күн бұрын

    I was hoping you'd do a video about this song - I've barely stopped listening to it since it came out! I love it. Everything about it, every tiny detail, is so perfectly and tastefully done - it sounds fresh and futuristic in the best possible way. A phenomenal song, and a great video as always, Rick.

  • @trillion42
    @trillion428 күн бұрын

    This gives me hope for the future of music

  • @krusher74

    @krusher74

    8 күн бұрын

    There are 120,000 songs uploaded to spotify a day its not about the music, its about the machine that picks which few of those songs get forced on the masses. Thats "pop music"

  • @WitchKing99
    @WitchKing997 күн бұрын

    I daydream about a world where sophisticated and ridiculously progressive music is the mainstream. This looks like one step closer to that world and it makes me happy! :D

  • @mauchoamusic
    @mauchoamusicКүн бұрын

    Some parts of the song reminds me of "kiss from a rose", from Seal. The "dancing chords" part.

  • @davidjohnmorse
    @davidjohnmorse8 күн бұрын

    It's good to see you excited about new music Rick! Thanks for turning us onto this artist, she's awesome.

  • @relativetimeworx8459
    @relativetimeworx84598 күн бұрын

    Touches of Tori, touches of Joni... and a unique flavor all its own. Super impressive.

  • @douglasmorris81

    @douglasmorris81

    8 күн бұрын

    The piano and her voice made me think of Tori immediately

  • @EchoMountain47

    @EchoMountain47

    8 күн бұрын

    I’ve been a Tori Amos fan since 1996 and I don’t hear anything particularly reminiscent of her music. Female vocals and there’s a piano in the mix, I guess? That’s a pretty tenuous connection at best

  • @sdrc92126

    @sdrc92126

    8 күн бұрын

    @@douglasmorris81 👍Looking for this comment

  • @rebeccamarkey2760

    @rebeccamarkey2760

    8 күн бұрын

    @@EchoMountain47 I looked for this comment because I heard T, as well.

  • @abandonedbrain

    @abandonedbrain

    8 күн бұрын

    Yus! Tori for damn sure, but wow. I honestly didn't think I'd ever again hear someone come close to the songwriting chops of Tori, but then I thought the same of Kate Bush and I was wrong... Willow is damn impressive. Spanks EVERY singer/songwriter out there the past five years. Prog R&B in the '20s? Nice.

  • @mandygarfitt5807
    @mandygarfitt58077 күн бұрын

    Tiny Desk Concerts have been around for a few year's now. Great way of experiencing your favourite artists live as well as new music close up ❤

  • @cahdash
    @cahdash6 күн бұрын

    so, basically radiohead meets neo-soul

  • @user-xp9nx6mm1n
    @user-xp9nx6mm1n8 күн бұрын

    Rick! The quality of great new - for me - music I've found here is staggering. As are your insights that you share. THANK YOU!

  • @mikeryan2454
    @mikeryan24548 күн бұрын

    Shit credit where due…she’s legit.

  • @tommeyer6033
    @tommeyer60337 күн бұрын

    Thanks Rick, glad to have this on my playlist and will be following Willow now. 🤩

  • @thomasdiviesti
    @thomasdiviesti8 күн бұрын

    Great video as always Rick! Nice chords

  • @binkywarren21
    @binkywarren218 күн бұрын

    Willow, if you're reading this - we support you!....And thank you for using your own voice. Not auto-tune!

  • @clarissagafoor5222
    @clarissagafoor52228 күн бұрын

    This is fantastic. So glad that today`s music has such a great future! and everyone is having so much fun. And all those chord changes thrill my heart.

  • @marticevopice
    @marticevopice7 күн бұрын

    Also the previous album from Willlow is amazing!

  • @kubace5398
    @kubace53984 күн бұрын

    Fell in love with that song 2 months ago or so. To say that I share Rick's enthusiasm would be an understatement ;-) So grateful for this video!

  • @dplagoon
    @dplagoon8 күн бұрын

    I was just waiting for you to do a Willow song. I knew you would appreciate the complexity. There are so many good songs on that album too.

  • @manuel_ao
    @manuel_ao8 күн бұрын

    I learnt about her through Mariusz Duda (Riverside frontman) who was also amazed at a pop artist releasing such a song. Nice to see that you're also promoting her - in the age if IA, these are the artists who will stand out.

  • @saguntandukar940
    @saguntandukar9403 күн бұрын

    I like when you appreciate and highlight good music

  • @gavin2391
    @gavin23918 күн бұрын

    So unique! I have a feeling we're gonna be referencing this for a while

  • @Fender420
    @Fender4208 күн бұрын

    Bass Player is great

  • @mkatepaski9947

    @mkatepaski9947

    8 күн бұрын

    Check out Rick's interview with her ( Mohini Dey ) from about 3 or 4 months ago, it's a fun one.

  • @f.kieranfinney457

    @f.kieranfinney457

    8 күн бұрын

    I actually wish we heard more from her in this piece. It’s a little rudderless.

  • @johnmurphy5739
    @johnmurphy57398 күн бұрын

    I hear message in a bottle in that progression and then tori amos/kate bush vibe. But man its way more interesting than 99% of radio these days

  • @762nato1
    @762nato14 күн бұрын

    So glad you covered this. I've been listening to this entire album on repeat for weeks now. The WHOLE thing is amazing. She's so versatile...multiple styles of singing, incredible arrangements, awesome writing and production...I can't say enough. She deserves tons of recognition. She's everything Taylor Swift SHOULD be.

  • @neladesign

    @neladesign

    2 күн бұрын

    totally agree!

  • @johncondon4081
    @johncondon40816 күн бұрын

    The cluster chords on the piano. Amazing

  • @chrisc4264
    @chrisc42648 күн бұрын

    It's a welcome relief to hear something thats not auto tuned or severely AI enhanced. Vocal wise it reminds me of a mix of Joni Mitchell and Larry Hill. Thank you Rick for sharing. Gives hope for the future a bit.

  • @totoweissproductions1344
    @totoweissproductions13448 күн бұрын

    Esperanza Spaulding has been doing this for years now, only she’s not related to Will and Jada, and she has been labeled Jazz

  • @christophbrylka6256

    @christophbrylka6256

    8 күн бұрын

    That was my thought as well. This song could have been written and performed by Esperanza Spalding..

  • @basilandrigsby

    @basilandrigsby

    8 күн бұрын

    Good point.

  • @bilbowaggins3036

    @bilbowaggins3036

    8 күн бұрын

    Esperanza is one of willow's inspirations. Anyways, for anyone who likes this new album from Willow, I recommend Esperanza's album, Emily's D+ evolution. It's Esperanza's peak of that jazzy, poppy, prog rock type vibe in my opinion

  • @Dooality

    @Dooality

    8 күн бұрын

    Eh I know Esperanza’s music well (even went to Berklee with her). I do hear the inspiration but I think it’s different enough that it’s its own thing.

  • @simonhodgetts6530

    @simonhodgetts6530

    8 күн бұрын

    I heard Symptom Of Life on the radio a while back - and it’s very good, but does have very strong influence from Esperanza Spalding - but I’m not going to take it away from Willow Smith - she’s very talented, and it’s such a relief to hear someone producing new music that doesn’t sound like all the other robot music out there. There’s some Tori Amos in there too - good though. Like it.

  • @itsphehello
    @itsphehello7 күн бұрын

    FINALLY! I've been waiting for you to post about this song

  • @_mrcrypt
    @_mrcrypt6 күн бұрын

    Nice! Groove for days and interesting as all heck - THANK YOU for sharing that 🍷

  • @CherryHaze86
    @CherryHaze868 күн бұрын

    I'm glad you landed on rhis artist. This album sticks out in the pop scene like a vivid pop of colour

  • @macwrightmusic
    @macwrightmusic8 күн бұрын

    Feels like that melody was made for those chords in the least obvious way.

  • @anthonyrodriguez7950

    @anthonyrodriguez7950

    8 күн бұрын

    Probably vice versa, but great outcome nonetheless.

  • @kayn8703

    @kayn8703

    8 күн бұрын

    You’re right! The guy who wrote the piano part said Willow wrote the melody over it.

  • @elir.195
    @elir.1954 күн бұрын

    I got just as excited when I heard this and honestly the whole album has some really good ones. Happy to see one of my favorite music KZreadrs break down this awesome song.

  • @chuck-dee
    @chuck-dee2 күн бұрын

    She's been developing and working on her sound for a while now- Empathogen is really a great album. And watching that drummer and Mohini Dey groove like that in the back is just magical.

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