How Watch Brands Cut Corners - 13 Examples

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In this video, we’ll take a look at some common ways that watch brands cut corners. Sometimes, it’s clearly a cost savings measure whereas in other cases it feels like more of an oversight. What aspects do you see in watches that feel like corners have been cut?
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0:00 - Intro & Organization
1:35 - 1. Pins & Collars
2:49 - 2. Date Wheels
4:43 - 3. Stamped Clasps
6:22 - 4. Superficial Architecture
7:37 - 5. Stamped Guilloché
9:01 - 6. Micro Adjustment
11:01 - 7. Bezel & Chapter Ring Alignment
12:29 - 8. Movement Naming Conventions
14:24 - 9. Lume
15:47 - 10. Hacking
17:11 - 11. Movements That Don’t Fit The Case
18:18 - 12. Water Resistance
20:10 - 13. Accuracy

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  • @steveyoo97
    @steveyoo97 Жыл бұрын

    Teddy, I think your follow up video could cover the converse: brands that go above and beyond on seemingly minor things

  • @forgettmenot

    @forgettmenot

    Жыл бұрын

    waiting for this! I’ve not been in the watch game for more than a few months, but after handling and buying multiple entry levels and mid-high range going into Omega, Cartier, Glashütte Original etc, I really want to give credit to Tudor. Finishing wise it is by far the best quality watch from start to finish, and physical interaction with the crown and bezel (if there is one) is superb.

  • @enginesonmute

    @enginesonmute

    Жыл бұрын

    Just talk about grand seiko the whole time

  • @charleschaimkohl

    @charleschaimkohl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@enginesonmute 😂

  • @tim9241

    @tim9241

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed, would even be nice to see a ranking, but I’m not sure if ranking brands is Teddy’s style…

  • @waffle911

    @waffle911

    Жыл бұрын

    Like Traska using perlage on the milled clasp

  • @ScoobieDoobie197474
    @ScoobieDoobie197474 Жыл бұрын

    If a brand can put out a $100 watch and have everything line up there is no excuse for a brand like Seiko not being able to line things up

  • @junwoojang2941

    @junwoojang2941

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, especially other brands in competition such as citizen seems to have significantly less issues than Seiko.

  • @MrR2185

    @MrR2185

    Жыл бұрын

    Even my 50 dollar Casio Duro has lined up bezel and indices. Something costing 10x more should be the same...I think.

  • @SuicideVan

    @SuicideVan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@junwoojang2941 which is funny, for me I've had good luck with my Seikos, but my Navihawk A-T is misaligned, and it bugs me as a quartz movement the second hand doesn't line up on each tick.

  • @highwaystar3780

    @highwaystar3780

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a few watches ranging from $60 to $14k. The Only watch which has Multiple Inexcusable Defects visible even with my practically legally Blind Left eye is a Seiko Presage or CockaTiel they call it. One of the flaws is someone's Greasy disgusting EyeLash stuck to the Crystal. I don't give a Fuck for Names, Cost, or Prestige. I bought those watches for their design. Every watch tells SAME time. But many have mentioned about Seiko

  • @highwaystar3780

    @highwaystar3780

    Жыл бұрын

    Shit quality control!!

  • @Lucas-ru6mm
    @Lucas-ru6mm Жыл бұрын

    This is definitely one of your stand out videos, I love that you were unafraid to critique some of the watches and brands that you carry in your shop for the sake of giving people a good perspective (also gives you a plethora of B roll)

  • @sylinmino
    @sylinmino Жыл бұрын

    Pins and Collars aren't always a corner cutting bit. Pins and Collars genuinely have more durability long term and result in a stronger fit bracelet. Screws are prone to stripping in the long term. Patek moved to Pins and Collars because the non-thick links also needed thin screws that really wore down over time and resulted in, what I've heard as, a lot of broken bracelets. Screws are easier to adjust on your own for sure, but one is not objectively better than the other.

  • @caktaylor

    @caktaylor

    Жыл бұрын

    The only system that has failed me is screw links. Bracelets with pin and collar or split pin systems may be a bit more difficult to size (emphasis on MAY), but they stay in place and just work.

  • @wuhanclan

    @wuhanclan

    Жыл бұрын

    Some screw systems are actually HARDER to adjust on your own. If you have screws on both sides stick from loctite, you aren't going to remove those with only screwdrivers. The tool required is significantly more expensive than pin sleeve tools. Screws only have a better aesthetic and I firmly believe they actually don't have any practical advantages.

  • @sylinmino

    @sylinmino

    Жыл бұрын

    @@caktaylor somewhere down in Watch KZreadr lineage it feels like one or two KZreadrs started this trend of claiming screws were objectively better, and then it just kinda stuck.

  • @jrgdrumsandwatches

    @jrgdrumsandwatches

    Жыл бұрын

    A few years ago my Rolex Sub 14060 fell of my arm to the ground as I didn't notice one screw getting lose. My worst watch experience ever. Since then I check the bracelets with screwed links regularly. Never had an issue with pins.

  • @QoraxAudio

    @QoraxAudio

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said. Fully agreed.

  • @trinity3422
    @trinity3422 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the success of your channel Teddy. It’s great to see a watch channel grow into its own and be respected by many!

  • @ralphyoung9482
    @ralphyoung9482 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video. You hit the nail on the head in all the areas you discussed. Well done.

  • @jodysilvia2
    @jodysilvia2 Жыл бұрын

    Great job Teddy, I hope brands watch,listen and implement these suggestions.

  • @jasondalton6182
    @jasondalton6182 Жыл бұрын

    Really thoughtful video. We’ll organized and supported. Thanks Teddy

  • @TheAussiePencil
    @TheAussiePencil Жыл бұрын

    Teddy, thanks so much. This was your best video in a while - I much prefer deep dives and analysis with a focus or theme across the watch market than reviews/focus on just one watch model. Gives you the chance to show off your expertise far more! 💪 Thanks so much!

  • @austingandy2650
    @austingandy2650 Жыл бұрын

    Teddy this is a really fantastic video. Particularly, it was super interesting to hear more details about the manufacturing processes involved in creating watches. I'd really love to see more content that speaks at this level of detail (or more) about the various manufacturing processes involved. Specifically, I had no idea how guilloche actually got added to dials. I'd love to hear more about other small details that involve significant work and attention to make happen with particularly high-end watches

  • @69fastfurious

    @69fastfurious

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree 100 % , explain what’s an enamel dial ? Or bezel , types of hardness metal cases or bracelets , or what’s the dial diameter not including the bezel or his is what lots of KZread channels watch reviews should do like those little details nobody think about them buy a online watch because the photo is fully lume but for how long ? Very good Teddy hopefully this is an open eye to lots of watch enthusiast would like to know 💯👍

  • @longotown
    @longotown Жыл бұрын

    Always love your open honesty - big fan for that trait.

  • @QualityTimeWatches
    @QualityTimeWatches Жыл бұрын

    LOVE this type of video Teddy!!!!❤️😎⌚️✌️

  • @statlerwaldorf7130
    @statlerwaldorf7130 Жыл бұрын

    Teddy, you are so diplomatic and passionate about watches, great video 😁

  • @arctic_skies
    @arctic_skies Жыл бұрын

    Really good and informative video. Thx Teddy.

  • @jendres28
    @jendres28 Жыл бұрын

    Unique topic and very insightful. Thanks Teddy!

  • @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Jordan I appreciate all your comments and for that I have selected you among my many subscribers for some package boxes just for you ! @ TeddyBaldassarree

  • @andrewaylward7654
    @andrewaylward7654 Жыл бұрын

    Very good episode Teddy! Thanks.

  • @thomasmack7147
    @thomasmack7147 Жыл бұрын

    Great content T B Enjoyed the video! It helped get my mind off work. Love the Chanel 💯🍻

  • @BartMan59
    @BartMan59 Жыл бұрын

    Your point about naming movement, well those "sneaky brands" known for this in some models are: Hublot, Tag Heuer, and very disappointing to say, but... Panerai and IWC.

  • @thebritishindian1
    @thebritishindian1 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative. I love these videos which educate me on insider knowledge of the watch industry.

  • @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your review! As a matter of fact I’ve got something for you !🎁🎉 📨 @ TeddyBaldassarree

  • @MikolaiStroinski
    @MikolaiStroinski29 күн бұрын

    Very informative! Thank you!

  • @NandaLinnAung
    @NandaLinnAung Жыл бұрын

    great video, very helpful, thanks.

  • @korien8976
    @korien8976 Жыл бұрын

    I bought a Seiko Presage recently and since it has hacking I set it after the atomic clock. I was very positively surprised when I discovered it runs only three second slow per day. That's really solid.

  • @Jeren6924

    @Jeren6924

    Жыл бұрын

    Nais, I got a Presage coming my way. Which one did you buy?

  • @fearstiers6730

    @fearstiers6730

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats nice, mine with the 4R36 runs +13sec...

  • @halukonal1400

    @halukonal1400

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fearstiers6730 give it some time, mine was hectic when I first bought it. After a year, it has +-3 sec a day and on average those seconds usually cancel each other

  • @korien8976

    @korien8976

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jeren6924 The one with the green sunburst dial. It's gorgeous. I'm saving up for the Sharp Edged Rose Gold at the moment.

  • @QoraxAudio

    @QoraxAudio

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here. Bought an SRPG23J1 that runs nicely accurate. However, they definitely cut corners on the metal bracelet. Stamped sheet metal clasp and a lot of play in the pins/links.

  • @fedomandez
    @fedomandez Жыл бұрын

    The 30m WR for Panerai is not silly. It's a CRIME

  • @ivanharlokin

    @ivanharlokin

    Жыл бұрын

    It really is unforgivable. They are capable of producing a watch of the same dimensions with 10 ATM (such as the Radiomir PAM 00574 / 620), but simply chose not to, presumably to save money.

  • @makxsh1mum

    @makxsh1mum

    Жыл бұрын

    My first "adult" watch was sadly, the Panerai Luminor Due...didn't even think about the water resistance when looking for watches originally. Still love the watch itself, but annoyed at myself for not educating myself better.

  • @Klingonmastr

    @Klingonmastr

    Жыл бұрын

    Citizen has a stiletto Eco Drive model that has ZERO water resistance. I can't believe they would do that. Even a cheap dress watch should have at leas 30M water resistance. I guess that is what happens when you make a watch case super thin.

  • @litan114
    @litan114 Жыл бұрын

    this is fresh contents, Thx Teddy!!!!

  • @turbyoulance
    @turbyoulance Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant Video and summation

  • @stevenv.surawski1178
    @stevenv.surawski1178 Жыл бұрын

    I found this video very informative, thank you for posting iy

  • @thomaszannier1638
    @thomaszannier1638 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks again Teddy ! Very instructive video many newcomers to horology should see before choosing a watch. Everything is in the details !😊

  • @user-qi6zo2fn7p
    @user-qi6zo2fn7p Жыл бұрын

    Great video Teddy, your point on accuracy is my absolute pet peeve! Say hello to John!

  • @ag-om6nr
    @ag-om6nr Жыл бұрын

    Excellent criticism ! I hope the manufacturers are listening !

  • @SillytanN
    @SillytanN Жыл бұрын

    this is one of the best purchase guides out there

  • @mhsvz6735
    @mhsvz6735 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent, thank you.

  • @Mikey___
    @Mikey___ Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, I do think that one of the most prolific cost cutting measures used to drive demand is regularly releasing 'revisions' of existing watches that are essentially the same as the previous version - there are a couple of very popular brands who benefit hugely from this!

  • @lutylives1852
    @lutylives1852 Жыл бұрын

    On the accuracy point: I was really put off mechanical watches as a whole initially because of the wide tolerances for timekeeping - however I have since been stunned by my Makara Sea Turtle, with a humble NH35a movement, which stays within a second of atomic time for days. Crazy. It really is all about what the brand does with whatever movement they have.

  • @GotThePug
    @GotThePug Жыл бұрын

    This was very interesting 👍

  • @daniellien6704
    @daniellien6704 Жыл бұрын

    Teddy, really appreciate you using specific examples for this corner-cutting. Not only does it help us identify corner-cutting in our watch journey, but it definitely helps your objectivity as a reviewer 👍

  • @oumpaloompa7772

    @oumpaloompa7772

    Жыл бұрын

    Is Olev or oupinke a good brand

  • @BrittPearceWatches
    @BrittPearceWatches Жыл бұрын

    lol ooomg, this is the video I didn't know I needed in my life... But I absolutely needed it in my life!

  • @pkmnmaster760
    @pkmnmaster760 Жыл бұрын

    To be honest, I'm fine with cost cutting as long as it's passed down to the consumer and doesn't make a big impact on quality or visuals--pin links, hidden date movements won't massively affect my enjoyment of the watch but if I can get tens of hundreds of dollars off with them than without, I'll take it. Some of the more noticeable cost cutting measures that I'll see every day like stamp clasps or etched crowns I can definitely understand being annoying. I guess the only exception is on premium or luxury watches where I'm paying for the quality and expect nothing to be left to desire.

  • @highwaystar3780

    @highwaystar3780

    Жыл бұрын

    It's NEVER passed down to Consumer.

  • @bcallander6548
    @bcallander6548 Жыл бұрын

    Great content

  • @mrxgaming7807
    @mrxgaming7807 Жыл бұрын

    Hi,just came across your channel,& I'm into it like I have been seeing it from years,you developed my interest in watch world,very charismatic personality you have,,and I can listen to you all day long,🙂😍

  • @UserKR13
    @UserKR13 Жыл бұрын

    I wish Teddy uploaded a video every day

  • @itsalgud1459
    @itsalgud1459 Жыл бұрын

    I think this is one of your best videos to date Teddy. You make a lot of very good points though I don’t agree with you on all of them. then again, some things that don’t bother me bother other people very much. I showed a picture of my $130 citizen Eco Drive recently, and someone asked me how well the The second hand aligned with the markers! I replied that it was $130 watch and I never looked. This is where people get completely out of touch with reality sometimes. And this is another area where I agree with you when you set price limits on what to expect from a watch. so thanks again for putting together all these facts in one place, it’s really helps me decide what is important to me and what is not in evaluating a watch within a given price range. Good job!

  • @1114gabby
    @1114gabby Жыл бұрын

    Good video!

  • @alexpaterson1382
    @alexpaterson1382 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, enjoyed a nice cigar with this.

  • @huckinator
    @huckinator Жыл бұрын

    0:05 me as a health care worker 😂😂😂 but on a serious note, one thing that keeps me subscribed to your channel over some other Watch reviewers are your ability to have realistic expectations. In some of these reviews people just have all these “negatives” about a watch and it’s just completely unrealistic to expect at some of the price points. They almost have to TRY to find stuff to say is bad about a certain watch.

  • @brunodesrosiers266

    @brunodesrosiers266

    Жыл бұрын

    Being both a retailer and a reviewer has its upsides.

  • @Scuba72Chris
    @Scuba72Chris Жыл бұрын

    On the subject of accuracy, I own a Seiko 5 which was running pretty fast when I first got it. I wasn't too worried by that because it was an inexpensive watch. A few months later I was in my local watch repair shop having a vintage watch restored and I mentioned the issue with my Seiko. The guy kindly took it into his workshop, regulated it and handed it back to my after a few minutes, free of charge. Since then it has been keeping fantastic time.

  • @joshs3916
    @joshs3916 Жыл бұрын

    Great video 🔥

  • @scottsj4625
    @scottsj4625 Жыл бұрын

    Nice job with this video. It is the first I have seen pointing out shortcuts and flaws. Seiko is famous for misalignment for sure. Even in their 1000-dollar watches.

  • @ralfrufus3691

    @ralfrufus3691

    Жыл бұрын

    Buy Grand Seiko instead.

  • @hh3rjf
    @hh3rjf Жыл бұрын

    Really good video.

  • @kris2223334
    @kris2223334 Жыл бұрын

    Great topic and video! Would love to have a follow up video/s w. More details and examples

  • @brianmsahin
    @brianmsahin Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video Teddy, some great points there. I would add just one more example of labor saving, or inattention to detail. I got a Tissot PRX quartz Stainless Steel, paid around $400 for it and not ONE time did the seconds hand hit a marker. Ok it's not a high price but I expected more from a Swiss brand. It made it look like a cheap $50 watch. My G-Shock GG-1000 Mudmaster at about half the price of the Tissot hits every marker spot on along with handling numerous other functions. Tissot just had to do one thing. Ensure it hit the markers. It's the reason I didn't keep it, sold it quickly and only lost a few dollars on it, but for me, not lining up the movement to the dial is shoddy and just shows a lack of customer care.

  • @silverwolfgecko7064

    @silverwolfgecko7064

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah same. It annoyed me as well, but being a novice I didn't know how much to expect at that price point and now I've gotten used to it. It also helps that it's a stunning watch😂

  • @brianmsahin

    @brianmsahin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@silverwolfgecko7064 Yes, totally get that, I've been collecting for a good few years now, and I suppose my OCD was triggered. Lol!. I understand you getting used to it, but when you can find a $75 Casio watch you might get in a general store that hits all the markers you wonder did you get what you should have expected for the money you paid. It's a very nice watch but they should have got that right, and all it took to do it was a small realignment. Anyway, never mind my rant, enjoy the watch!! :)

  • @barrelvisor
    @barrelvisor Жыл бұрын

    Excellent list - it appears that the price point is the significant factor with what a consumer is prepared to accept or expect. Price goes up, expectation does - perhaps exponentially more.

  • @RogerMillerInVA
    @RogerMillerInVA Жыл бұрын

    Teddy, you're right on all of those, but especially on the lume issue. A lot of us rely on our watches to help us in dark, dangerous, or dirty jobs. Lume is as important to my watch needs as headlights are on a car.

  • @erginguneysf
    @erginguneysf Жыл бұрын

    A very nice video and a great compilation. Many thanks! I have a somewhat off-topic question: What's the watch on your wrist in the video? It looks pretty handsome and I'm a bit bummed by the fact that I couldn't recognize it.

  • @andyholton7959
    @andyholton7959 Жыл бұрын

    This was like therapy 🤙🏻 now we need a watch that covers everything we just talked about 🙌

  • @ralfrufus3691

    @ralfrufus3691

    Жыл бұрын

    What about Rolex?

  • @alexappleby8677
    @alexappleby8677 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, and makes me even more happy with my Rotary Henley Seamatic. Got to be one of the best starter watches. The Miyota 8215 has the hacking update, and has been regulated fantastically well, runs at about -3 secs a week. Ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, dail lines up perfectly, 300m, no stamped clasp all for less than £200 (on offer, when I bought it). Just so long as you're a fan of the Cyclops 😉

  • @coachmigueldiaz9535
    @coachmigueldiaz9535 Жыл бұрын

    For me it is cutting corners when they charge you up to 600 bucks for a seiko that carries the same movement as one for less than 300. Even they specify the ranges... they are still charging more than double for the same movement.

  • @ChromeMan04

    @ChromeMan04

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I hate that.

  • @Enrico-

    @Enrico-

    Жыл бұрын

    Seiko makes sub-300$ watches?

  • @coachmigueldiaz9535

    @coachmigueldiaz9535

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Enrico- Here in europe pretty much all the seiko 5 is below 300. Not the new GMTs

  • @aaronparayil7847
    @aaronparayil7847 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Teddy. Big fan. Been watchin your videos for a long time. Just one point I wnted to add. For example, when you mentioned about pins and collars, I must admit I had no clue what you were talking about. I would love it when you explain these points, if you could show some examples of what you mean. I know I might seem not so knowledgeable on watches. But I also look up to people like you to learn hese things. Hope you take this point onboard.

  • @BenNS1971
    @BenNS1971 Жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ben ! I have shortlisted you on my ongoing package surprise for my fans

  • @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    Жыл бұрын

    @ TeddyBaldassarree

  • @martinvandenbroek2532
    @martinvandenbroek2532 Жыл бұрын

    Sharp observation you made with regards to accuracy and Mido watches. I owe quite a number of Midos and also the non chronometers run damn accurate. Same goes for the few Certinas I owe.

  • @looplop
    @looplop Жыл бұрын

    Very well put! Thanks for the videos!

  • @cjblazer385
    @cjblazer385 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for mentioning Seiko’s QC issues. I bought a not inexpensive (for me) Seiko last year ($600) and the alignment is very noticeably off. On top of that there is a speck of dust on the dial that is visible to the naked eye when light hits it. On closer examination under macro, there was a lot more dust. The thing that really bothers me is, I REALLY love everything about this watch itself. What I mean is, I love the design, the strap, the fit, the look, the quality (of the movement and construction/finish) … everything. Everything I hate about this watch comes down to avoidable quality issues that I feel are just, lazy. It is so frustrating. The other thing I don’t understand is, I have an older Seiko SNK that was like $100. There is zero dust on the dial, even under macro. So at some point Seiko did have good QC. My Orient watches also are very well aligned and have no dust (maybe just luck but I hear similar things from others). Orient is under the Seiko brand if I am not mistaken, although also its own separate thing. So totally possible at lower price range to have great QC even on mechanical watches at lower price points. I really like the higher end Seikos and I am always eyeing them, again for what they are, quality and design of the watch itself. but at my budget $1000+ for a watch with these issues would be really upsetting.

  • @whereisvanuatu

    @whereisvanuatu

    Жыл бұрын

    Not trying to be a smartass here, but why did you not get it back to the seller under warranty?

  • @energeez

    @energeez

    Жыл бұрын

    was it used. i got that issue when a guy replaced a battery. maybe it was opened by some guy

  • @jasonjones6208
    @jasonjones6208 Жыл бұрын

    I love my Longines 37mm Spirit with an amazing dial and value for money. My small criticism is the sharp edges on the lugs. I feel it should have been smoothed out somehow. I have other watches with brushed finish where I can pass my finger over the lug and don’t feel a rough edge.

  • @beammeupyet
    @beammeupyet7 ай бұрын

    Thank you for showing these reasonable points👍What do you thing about the springing date at midnight in current and older movements? Can it be adjusted for example in a Selita SW330-2 ?

  • @OscarRPalma
    @OscarRPalma Жыл бұрын

    Nice video

  • @Gumby56
    @Gumby56 Жыл бұрын

    You just said the quiet part out loud, thank you!

  • @dBsdecibels
    @dBsdecibels Жыл бұрын

    I'd also add limited power reserves. When the price starts creeping up, I think 50+ hrs becomes basically mandatory. Quite a few companies get into the $2k+ price point, but still offer only a 38hr power reserve.

  • @kuongsam2314

    @kuongsam2314

    Жыл бұрын

    70 hrs automatic or 8 days mecanical with mediocre isochronism are common issues..

  • @Enrico-

    @Enrico-

    Жыл бұрын

    why tho

  • @dBsdecibels

    @dBsdecibels

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Enrico- Because it costs less money to have less power reserve than it does to have more.

  • @darrenaquilina1403
    @darrenaquilina1403 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Ted, great content as usual. One question as it’s a little unclear. Any correct information on the Baumatic movements in B&M watches? I know they are great as i also own one. I also know they are produced by Val Flourier specifically for B&M and are practically in house movements. How correct is this? And are the movements also produced for other brands? Or just B&M. Thanks for any info.

  • @EricThomason
    @EricThomason Жыл бұрын

    11:09 I’ve had this exact Seiko watch for months and just now noticed that the bezel and chapter ring are misaligned in the exact same way as the example here in the video…now I can’t unsee it.

  • @ahslan18
    @ahslan18 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. One thing that always is a pet peeve of mine is a watch without a screw down crown that has decent water resistance (say 100m). I honestly don't know if that's a cost cutting measure or a conscious decision. I know it's a controversial topic, but for me, it really gives me that peace of mind that the crown won't be moving while underwater.

  • @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    Жыл бұрын

    @ TeddyBaldassarree I’ve got something for you !

  • @stevenbriandunn5648
    @stevenbriandunn5648 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent as always. Why you not mention Grand Seiko as going the extra mile or not as in no microadjust?

  • @genghiska1538
    @genghiska1538 Жыл бұрын

    Nice vid.. wrist check? Curious to what u wearing when discussing other brands

  • @VikrantLudhra
    @VikrantLudhra Жыл бұрын

    You showed that Hublot with its screws not aligning that is really annoying for me thought you would mention that since it got coverage in the video

  • @murselmashruh9024
    @murselmashruh9024 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video……how would u judge presence or absence of hand winding

  • @thomasleobacher4777
    @thomasleobacher4777 Жыл бұрын

    Teddy, I have purchased a DOXA SUB 200 in yellow (Divingstar) this year and I can tell DOXA has improved the lume. Even after 1,5 hours I was able to read all details on the dial , hands and on the bezel. The upgrade should be recognized on the crown icon which is matching the color of the dial instead of the orange fish icon used for all color versions.

  • @ericgrace9995

    @ericgrace9995

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep...I noticed that too. On the latest models, the "Jenny Fish" now matches the dial. I guess that's a "con" comment above mine. Are you going to contact the channel ?

  • @switzknight
    @switzknight Жыл бұрын

    I agree will all your points save the one about the bracelet and clasps. Major brands have made us to think that good quality bracelet and clasp are only possible for high end and premium prices. Things are changing and fabrication process too. Now we have some very satisfying bracelets and quick adjusting clasps from brands like Nodus, Christopher Ward, Halios or Monta for exemple at very affordable prices. So it is possible to do it. Most brands don't even try, sure off the old beliefs.

  • @rangermadeknives
    @rangermadeknives Жыл бұрын

    Recently bought a Deep Blue Patriot. Love the watch...except, there was absolutely no effort put into breaking the sharp edges on the back of the case and the engineer bracelet. It was not a big deal for me since I'm a custom knifemaker with a shop full of tools designed to do jobs exactly like that. Took me ten minutes to make the watch far more comfortable on the wrist. If I were the average consumer, I would have returned it.

  • @TheDonCucaracho

    @TheDonCucaracho

    Жыл бұрын

    I've heard terrible things about their customer support

  • @ccallejabarcia

    @ccallejabarcia

    Жыл бұрын

    Watches and knives...both are my hobbies too!

  • @saqz11

    @saqz11

    Жыл бұрын

    just wondering why you'd buy that watch?

  • @rangermadeknives

    @rangermadeknives

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saqz11 I love tritium gas tubes. I wear a watch 24/7 and when I wake up in the middle of the night or I'm in the woods in the dark, I like to be able to look at my watch and see what time it is. Saphire crystal, ceramic bezel insert, 300m water resistant, clean dial with T100 tubes and a reliable Seiko movement for $350...with a bracelet. There's nothing else that comes close. Next closest watch is the Ball Engineer Master II Skindiver II for about $2300. Obviously the Ball has a Swiss movement so, it's worth a little more but, probably not $1950 more.

  • @ss9749

    @ss9749

    Жыл бұрын

    When I’m camping, I only care about two times: night time and day time.

  • @johnbecker1996
    @johnbecker1996 Жыл бұрын

    I've always wondered about the water resistance ratings. When 200m means it's ok to go swimming, 100m is ok in the shower, and 30m means if it gets splashed you need to use a hair dryer and a bag of rice, things are more than a little bit off. But we've come to accept these ratings as they are. We've seen a video demonstrating how big a shock the G-Shock can actually handle; how about another demonstrating the actual water resistance of a few different watches?

  • @ralfrufus3691

    @ralfrufus3691

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree 100 percent. It is nothing short of a betrayal with these fake water resistance ratings.

  • @bikeman123

    @bikeman123

    Жыл бұрын

    Think about it as water pressure rather than water depth. You may swim at the surface but your hands may move very quickly through the water so be subject to far higher pressure. Likewise the water from a running tap can easily exceed the pressure at 100m depth.

  • @caktaylor

    @caktaylor

    Жыл бұрын

    You can start with the Hydraulic Press Channel here on KZread. They test different types of items, including watches. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJdq07KcYLvQkcY.html

  • @ralfrufus3691

    @ralfrufus3691

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bikeman123 Both nonesense. Try it. Put 10 bar pressure on your watch and see what will happen.

  • @NeoWahNah

    @NeoWahNah

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bikeman123 LOL. No way... seriously.

  • @davidbailey4128
    @davidbailey4128 Жыл бұрын

    A video on arbitrary styling pet peeves would be fun. Mine is date windows at 4 or 5:00 position.

  • @MrKanjidude
    @MrKanjidude Жыл бұрын

    Great video. It can be argued that its just a matter of design, but the stamped waffle pattern dial on the Tissot Le Locle was the main reason I decided not to get it. Looked cheap and busy.

  • @hellonwheels2053
    @hellonwheels2053 Жыл бұрын

    Thumbs up for the best Watch Channel

  • @pardus8panthera5
    @pardus8panthera5 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent post, thanks. So many points additional points, but here are some of mine: 'Dive watches" on leather/Alligator straps! Movements that rattle in their cases! Visible screw heads that do not Line Up with each other (e.g: Hublot in your video) & especially: Limited Edition of xx/XX, until the next "limited edition of the exact same watch with a different Title: this has to be the worst issue for me... Many thanks, Cheers.

  • @carlosmiranda2968
    @carlosmiranda2968 Жыл бұрын

    Have we discovered what Watch is on teddys wrist? Looks terrific.

  • @fdadrtrttewrt
    @fdadrtrttewrt Жыл бұрын

    I sold my Seiko SKX007 because of the misalingment. It drove me mad everytime I wore it. If you arent going to do it right then dont do it at all. Another exellent video!

  • @tissapathiratna7761
    @tissapathiratna7761 Жыл бұрын

    What was the Swiss Quartz watch that the Second hand aligns with the markings??

  • @miguelquezada1916
    @miguelquezada1916 Жыл бұрын

    Love the tan Teddy!

  • @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Miguel ! As a matter of fact I’ve got something special just for you !

  • @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    Жыл бұрын

    @ TeddyBaldassarree Right away !

  • @j.j.h.atemycereal
    @j.j.h.atemycereal Жыл бұрын

    Great video, Teddy. I have an Oris Diver 65 and I’m totally fine with its water resistance. Personally, one of the first thing I look for is an adjust-on-the-fly clasp. It’s 2022. There’s no reason why almost ANYONE can’t include this on a bracelet.

  • @ivanharlokin

    @ivanharlokin

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. That said, I thought that making the Carl Brashear limited edition with 'only' 10ATM, was a bit of a mistake. He was a famous diver with an inspiring story, so the watch to commemorate him should really have been capable of being used as an actual dive watch.

  • @ryantannehill2830

    @ryantannehill2830

    Жыл бұрын

    100m is plenty of depth for almost all diving.

  • @ivanharlokin

    @ivanharlokin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryantannehill2830 No, it isn't. 10 ATM (100m) is sufficient for swimming, and snorkeling. It is NOT suitable for diving. It does not in any way mean that you can submerge to a depth of 100m.

  • @garyboyle695

    @garyboyle695

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ivanharlokin It is perfectly fine for diving, just not saturation diving. It meets the ISO 6425 certification so it's a true dive watch. Maybe you should read up on it!

  • @ivanharlokin

    @ivanharlokin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@garyboyle695 You are wrong. Go and read the specifications of the Carl Brashear Oris, and the guidelines for 10 ATM, and stop perpetuating ignorant bollocks.

  • @arnovda9479
    @arnovda9479 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I would add a deep rehaut as a typical sign of less premium watches. However, the last point isn't really valid. If you regulate a Seiko properly you can easily get it running within a few seconds a day..

  • @perfectdiver1
    @perfectdiver1 Жыл бұрын

    which what are you wearing in this video? globemaster? very eye catching

  • @fatirsiddiqui5414
    @fatirsiddiqui5414 Жыл бұрын

    In a similar vein, I think you could create a video on the best and worst aspect(s) of various brands. For example, Sinn has excellent regulation but not the best lume. Great video btw :)

  • @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    @user-zx7ch5xo1r

    Жыл бұрын

    @ TeddyBaldassarree Right away !

  • @oumpaloompa7772

    @oumpaloompa7772

    Жыл бұрын

    Is Olev or oupinke a good brand

  • @QuackLoud
    @QuackLoud Жыл бұрын

    Really fun video. One point I'd like clarified is on Water Resistance, since your comments seem to be 180 degrees from most other horologists on KZread. So many of your peers have been saying that 100 meters of WR is only for splashing at the beach but not swimming and definitely not for real scuba diving. If you could do a video on WR it would be appreciated.

  • @morbideddie

    @morbideddie

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, loads of information from channels on WR ratings. a 100m watch can take 100m of static water pressure. Dynamic pressure is a factor, but it's incredibly minor in the grand scheme of things.

  • @kevinjamesdawes7223
    @kevinjamesdawes7223 Жыл бұрын

    You're correct with micro adjust. I bought a vintage alfex chrono on SS strap. It has micro holes but the strap ends are stepped so can't slide into the clasp. And the lume really pisses me off. I bought a swiss lume kit for £24 and that would do a couple of hundred dials and it's bright. No excuse for rubbish lume. Even that kids lume paint is better than most of the stuff they use.

  • @gman9582
    @gman9582 Жыл бұрын

    Can you review the Seiko Speedtimer?

  • @nelsonortas4796
    @nelsonortas4796 Жыл бұрын

    LOVE your vids.... You are the best

  • @haping1
    @haping1 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Teddy. Thanks. It amazes me every time how much attention a lot of microbrands put in the build quality of a watch. A microbrand watch from around $1.000 feels so luxurious compared to some great names who still hold on to missalignements, non regulation of their movement, stamped claspes and push pins or pin and collar systems to their bracelets.... Do I choose for a well established brand or a small manufacturer where I get more bang for the bug....?

  • @chrisboggs4262
    @chrisboggs4262 Жыл бұрын

    “The funny, weird world we live in…” - boy, there’s a statement that has legs! Great video. I’ve wondered why “hacking” isn’t just a normal feature of most automatic watches. I’d add winding to that as well; I have a Seiko SNZG15 that doesn’t hack or hand-wind, which is strange, but stranger still is how easy it is to pick up, set the day/date/time, shake it a few times and put it on and it doesn’t miss a beat. It’s a different approach I’m learning to enjoy (I don’t always have to be in control? I can just wear it and it’ll wind it’s self? Hmmm). Thanks for some great perspectives from the watch making world.

  • @duckrutt

    @duckrutt

    Жыл бұрын

    Seiko has been slowly updating their 5 series with hacking movements. They've also added a disproportional amount of money for the convenience which is annoying. I've got a mongrel on my wrist at the moment. SNKL23 case, the dial and hands from a SNSX79 and a domed sapphire crystal. I have a NH35 for it but I haven't gotten around to it. It's only been a year so I'm sure I'll get to it eventually.

  • @toadamine
    @toadamine Жыл бұрын

    Unless its a Rolex or something, I don't want an in house movement, I want an ETA or Selitta or even a Miyota, something everyone knows how to regulate and work on... there's lots of watches I wont buy because they have some unknown and untested in House movement...

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio Жыл бұрын

    5:30 yeah... that surprise is what I got when I bought my Seiko Presage SRPG23... These Presage watches themselves are very nice, don't get me wrong, but they definitely cut corners with the straps and bracelets! 12:10 You forgot another type alignment on quartz watches: the second hand that doesn't align with the indices...

  • @oumpaloompa7772

    @oumpaloompa7772

    Жыл бұрын

    Is Olev or oupinke a good brand

  • @QoraxAudio

    @QoraxAudio

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oumpaloompa7772 I have no idea. I love quality watches, but I'm not a watch connoisseur.

  • @ulig12
    @ulig12 Жыл бұрын

    I tend to disagree with your opinion on screwed links vs pin and collar. Whenever I have trouble resizing a bracelet, it is usually with screws. Screws that are so tight you cannot get them out without damaging something. Threadings that don‘t work. Screws that nearly fall out just from regular wear. Double screws that need two tools and three hands to operate, etc. Pin and collar in my experience is as easy to use and much less troublesome.

  • @caktaylor

    @caktaylor

    Жыл бұрын

    Completely agree. I shouldn't need to buy a tube of Loctite to size a bracelet.

  • @Abb0able
    @Abb0able Жыл бұрын

    Not a watchcollector but those random misaligned screws head like in your picture of the Hublot trigger OCD in me. Gotto say that that Oris watch was beautiful

  • @drewsleyy3836
    @drewsleyy3836 Жыл бұрын

    Teddy, are you planning to cover the newest escapement innovation from Frédérique Constant? (Their one-piece silicon escapement that runs at 40bps)

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