The Green Onions of the rave generation, Plastic Dreams was an instant classic.

It's a JX-8P factory preset: Music Box preset played at lowest notes, the organ sound is from a TX81Z preset: "16 8 4 2 F"

@GyuBeats

6 ай бұрын

Ah!! Thank you!

@activelow9297

6 ай бұрын

"Music Box" is part of it. The sound actually comes from the JX10/MKS-70, which is two JX8P engines ganged together in layers. In the ROM of the MKS-70 are all the JX8P patches (along with many more). Patches on the MKS-70 are made up of two base patches with a common layer between them so you can adjust volume, key spreads, etc... Anyway, there is a preset on the MKS-70 (I can't remember the name) which is made up of Music Box pitched an octave down + another patch on the root note. The same sound can be heard at the fade out of the song "Celestial Symphony" by Scubadevils, played at it's normal range. This is in fact the sound that was used in Plastic Dreams.

@vikramprincerai3519

5 ай бұрын

I think its Tibetan Bell on the MKS-70@@activelow9297

@activelow9297

5 ай бұрын

@@vikramprincerai3519 Yes, that's correct. My MKS-70 was unplugged and sitting on the floor so I was unable to check... but that is the one.

@GIRTHGIRL

4 ай бұрын

@@activelow9297what an absolute belter of a tune celestial - scuba devils is ;)

Dude. I cannot even begin to explain how Earth-shattering this track was for me. The very first time I heard it I froze for like 10 seconds before I LOST. MY. MIND.

@peacepuffz

4 ай бұрын

Same dude, was a spiritual experence.

It must have been in "The Music Hall" in 93 or 94 In Frankfurt when the DJ put that track on at first listen - I literally fought my way to the booth to get a glimpse on the record and saw a R&S record spinning - It took another year until someone told me the title. That bad it stuck to my mind - In 96 there was a repress and as a DJ i could always fill the dancefloor with this (or take a pee) as it`s wuite long....😅

the sound was also used in wackass M.F but this is the classic! a must have for the classics collection! that hip hop break too!!! ya can also find in arman van heldens - you don't know me. glad i found this channel!!!! exciting!

First time I heard this was when a DJ had two copies and made it last about 40 minutes (Decadance, Bakers, Birmingham). I was fckin livid! Eventually I grew to love it over the years :D

Great vid. I came here because Robin 'Jaydee' Albers just reposted your video on FB. He knows the answers you're looking for.

This has made my day: never get tired of these videos!

This series is the best! can you please do “system error”- two right wrongans ?

First time I heard this was early days Ministry of Sound, Elephant & Castle, South London....Jeremy Healey's first night in the big room. And this came on. Blew me away.... 😊😊❤️🎶🎶🎛

I first heard this in the Limelight club in New York and it totally blew me away. Still love it to this day. Great work again. Thanks for these fantastic videos.

Quite simply in a realm very few tracks can reach. Great dive.

Awesome breakdown as always - reckon you should tackle Golden Girls 'Kinetic' next.

@OutOfMySystem

6 ай бұрын

That is a good shout. Yes please.

@GyuBeats

6 ай бұрын

Someone else mentioned it and I've been researching. If I can get close to recreating the lead I'll do it :)

@craigburton4447

2 ай бұрын

That's an unbelievably tough one, pretty sure the main hook which is basically the whole tune is just a random sample, I have looked for the source for years and never seen ANYTHING about it. Sounds like a string sample pitched down, maybe off a digital synth, weren't Orbital using the Korg Wavestation back then? Would love to know if you can find out. La Tour - Blue is another one I would love to know how the lead is done

The theme tune of our party years this one.. 😜👌👌👌👌👌

Have you done a breakdown go Golden Girls - Kinetic? Where did the main riff come from / how was it mangled?

@snobol

6 ай бұрын

Would love to see this, too!

@extereem1260

4 ай бұрын

Kinetic is great

@grizcuz

3 ай бұрын

I know they did a remix of it, but the main riff in it always sounded very Orbital to me, even in the original mix. I wonder if they took an Orbital track and sampled a noise and messed with it?

Yes Yes Yes another one...CLASSIC!! Thank you!!

Great breakdown. First heard this at Nimmos (before it became Niche) in Sheffield in the early 90s. What a place that was! Friday nights were Rise at the Leadmill followed by Nimmos until 6am. Then off to Bramall Lane for the match a few hours later. No idea how I managed to do that 😂

Legendary track, used it many times in my DJ sets, and there are so many interesting remixes & modern remakes of this classic track as well

one of my all time favs.... great vid!

Love ya work

All time favourite track thank you Gyu

I heard this first in a cafe in Amsterdam and it was really the tune that got me into house music. What a tune. Really nice to hear how it was made.

My god, I need more! Subscribed!

The break drums is off Compression - Breakouts Vol 2 which is turn is a Amen break - The Winstons.

Great video - HUGE track that I always loved and also wondered how it was made for years. Thank you for putting this video together. The break loop: I've always thought it might be a loop from the classic "No Kick" sample CD.

thank you for all that effort - i was looking for such a breakdown video a while ago. and here it is. plastic dreams is the best deep house track ever ever.

The drum track that is what gives all the high end verbish and cymbalish thickness is also used on an old skool rave track by World Dominance called Compression. The start of that track has just the high end bits layered about with ocassional kicks in there, but you can eq out the kicks quite simply. I belive the story goes that this is all sampled from "the amen break". Using old style samplers and isolating different elements from that breakbeat break and using them to get the sound we're talking about here.

@DJDragon69

4 ай бұрын

FACTS. That was the Hardcore typical breaks sound pre Jungle of the early 90's

@theoutsider6191

4 ай бұрын

@@DJDragon69 Well, yes and no. There was a lot of sampling of the Amen break and the sounds of it were used a lot. But the two tracks we're talking about here for me always had something else about the drum tracks, because of the cymbals and verby sounds washing around all over the beats of each track. For me Jaydee and World Dominance were the only two tracks that really did it that well, that i know of at any rate.

@BarneyTrouble1

2 ай бұрын

@@theoutsider6191It's an Amen break, with high-passed another break layered over it (which has a wider, stereo sound). Depending on which channel you use, the Amen sounds quite different, and then add some heavy compression to get this sound. It's also used on Doc Scott's N.H.S. (Disco Remix), as well as a few less well-known hardcore tracks from that era.

@BarneyTrouble1

2 ай бұрын

It does have a nice, clear sample, with the other layered beats, at the start of Compression - Breakouts Vol 2 (Basically the same track as the World Dominance one). I think the clue is in the title, in regards the processing of the Amen break! ))

@Apeirogon

Ай бұрын

Actually compression samples Carl Cox - Hardcore Massif!, making the compression break a 5th hand amen break.

This video highlights why I subscribe to your channel. Not only are you a talented musician and producer, you are also an exceptional teacher. Your modesty and genuineness as a person are apparent in your presentation and style. I love how you encourage followers to appreciate and utilize "happy accidents". Your track/song detective work and love for the process is contagious and motivating. Thank you for creating a positive and helpful space for us. - Sean 🙂

@GyuBeats

6 ай бұрын

Wow! Thanks so much Sean! This comment has genuinely made my day ♥️♥️♥️

@ytsm

3 ай бұрын

He's the Bob Ross of dance!

Amazing insight and tutorial, the best I have ever seen so thanks for sharing and demonstrating this in such a great engaging, informative and professional manner.

FINALLY! What a tune!

Brilliant vid mate...

1:05 i think it sounds like a DX7 or FM synth. But I'm unsure about that. nice video... ich love this track so much

Love your channel man. Did a fair amount of remakes myself that are in my channel. I can totally relate to the deep dive rabbit holes to find out which synths were used or where that specific sample came from. You have a very pleasant way of presenting it!

Interesting what you said about quantising (or not, in this case) is key to what makes the organ line sound so good. I've always felt the same about the main piano line in the Orbital track Fahrenheit 303 from their Green album - it just sounds like a live jam over the top of the track which gives it such urgency, spontaneity and life, meaning it's still one of my favourite dance tracks of all time.

A killer no doubt.wonder if E2-E4 was an inspiration for this and the boards

Loved this tune when it came out. I remember and I don't remember much DJs would mix it with Muzik X-Press. Those days will never come back.

great work as ever,, i always thought there was a bit more of a Kawai K1 vide to one of the organ sound than over a Korg M1 vibe.

cool stuff! thanks for sharing :). I am one of those more details is better but I guess when more educated this is a nice format. Got me into understanding synths and sound creation better! cheers

Thanks for this, good job. Robin Albers (JayDee) started to make this classic house number on a boring night. Creativity all the way.

After going through the comments regarding the Music Box: I've found a VST called "PG-8X", and combined with a "Factory Bank"-preset, I found the Music Box... Jumped for joy when I used it for the first time!

Its always a good day when I wake up and you have dropped a video:)

@shortattentionspa.....

6 ай бұрын

Also wow thanks for sharing the files!

Great tune. Got the original R&S release

They used to play this at SW8 club in London Victoria. Man that place was good.

I haven't even watched this yet, but I saw the title and just wanted to say "YAAAAAAAAAAS BROTHER!" Nice one!

You always pick my favorite songs! Detroit mix show DJ's would and still play Plastic Dreams to transition out of hip-hop records to more techno, house and electro music. Or out of "booty music" (Ghetto-tech) to take things deeper into the after-hours. Usually followed by Groove La Chord or Disco's Revenge. Maybe Knights of The Jaguar, but you'd get them all at some point.

@ACAD912

3 ай бұрын

This is not a song. This is a track. No one is singing. So simple is this.

@JT_1

Ай бұрын

@@ACAD912get off yer high horse ( oh hang on there’s another) it’s a choon.. no more no less

I would love to sit down with you and talk music….great channel

Chooooon!

7:44 you discovered the Propellerheads

@atiqjunglist

6 ай бұрын

Indeed

I heard this banger for the first time at James Murphy + 2manydjs Despacio in 2022. It was a magical end to a six-hour set.

@ACAD912

3 ай бұрын

This is NOT a song.

@discoho

3 ай бұрын

@@ACAD912 fixed, thanks bro

The bong sound seems to be more like of a percussive instrument. The tail is rhythmic, almost. Then he's embellished with EQ, layering and reverb. I would look at the Triton passive expansion or stock percussion one shots which were used by a lot of people back then.

Heard for the first time at Disco 2000 at Club Limelight. Oh hunny we raved.

The break is breakouts - compression from 1991

Jay dee is also known as Robin Alberts and worked as a radio DJ for the AVRO, TROS, radio3 and Veronica. I have met him a couple of times in clubs such as Eacape, the Melkweg etc in Amsterdam, which is my birth place.

@minigrande1939

4 ай бұрын

Please thank him .this was and still is such a big tune

@flapsiewapsie

4 ай бұрын

he say in a interview,tiesto wil never be a star........oh oke

I bought an EPS a few years ago on the stock floppy there's an organ sample which sounds exactly the same. When I loaded it into the RAM in a tenth of a second I thought Plastic Dreams. Instantly.

Still have this on Vinyl

@GyuBeats, Golden Girls - “Kinetic?? Yes please! I believe Paul Hartnoll was involved, but don’t quote me on that. Energy 52’s “Cafe Del Mar” would be a good breakdown too. ❤

On the JD 800, it's most likely the RHODES sound played very low. It's been a while since I sold my JD 800. But I do remember stumbling over that sound and thinking this might be *that* exact sound. Isn't there a kind of shaker loop with flanger or phaser on?

Heard this played by Etapp Kyle at Berghain a few months back, got home and instantly sat down to make my version as I had the idea he played a remix too but in hindsight probably not. Anyway if you're interested in my techno take on it look up Plastic Tool. :) And great video thank u!

Bent - Always (Ashley Beedle mix) be a nice one to remake, he totally transformed that track!

I seen on who sampled the drum break was sampled in Armand Van Helden's - You Don't Know Me

@GyuBeats

6 ай бұрын

Ah nice one

@DJTrippVideo

3 ай бұрын

And there’s a version with just the beat and vocals. You could nab a clean loop for sure.

Hearing this in the main room at The Ministry for the very first time (92 I think?) was an experience.

Hey !...Firstly, thank you for all the great videos ! Would you be able to re-create "underground resistance - world 2 world - Amazon" that would be amazing !!

Awesome, think it was Weatherall playing when I first heard this in Happy Jacks - London Bridge, chooon. That little breakbeat, where did you get it? I need it :)

@GyuBeats

6 ай бұрын

Which one? You can get the samples in the description

@vikramprincerai3519

6 ай бұрын

It's The Monkeeys - mary mary

That is a Think break and drum machine, check Tony Scott

Was there any groove or swing applied to the percussion??

Great video but the real power and absolute magic in this track for me hearing it in clubs when it came out is the introduction of the Amen break a few mins in which isn’t ID’d correctly or really even mentioned in the video 😂

@GyuBeats

3 ай бұрын

It's not an amen. Someone linked to the track that was sampled for that bit in these comments

There is a very extended version somewhere (I heard it once) , where he trips in his organ "solo". Quiet funny actually.

Great video mate and spot on: often the most simple sounding tracks are actually a masterclass in arrangement. And hell yeah to human imperfection!

Where is the link ?

its on the mks70 that sound I have one if you require the sample

8:58 isn't that drum loop in the original just am amen? With high passing and some sort of distortion/bitcrushing effect. Great video thanks, love this track 😎

@mooganoid

6 ай бұрын

Exactly my thinking! I'd not long moved over from the rave scene as a DJ and I loved it every time that loop kicked in in Plastic Dreams! I was surprised this was missed.

@r0ndema

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, definitely. Sounds to me like it was sampled from Success n Effect - Roll it Up (Bass Kickin Beats) or Bonesbreaks - Janet’s Revenge or the common source which escapes me as I type (UBB?)

@humanoi303

Ай бұрын

I also thought that actually. Tried to emulate Plastic Dreams as well (and I failed miserably), but the break sounded kind of OK-ish. I put a bit of a flanger effect on it.

Robin Albers (Jaydee) stated once that he had "a smoke" and played this song in one take late at night. He did not even bother to correct notes. The beat is from a sample-cd

One of the greatest deep, wobbly tracks of all time. Armand Van Halen used the drum break in 'You Don't Know Me' but don't know if he sampled Jaydee or found the original break?!

@vikramprincerai3519

5 ай бұрын

The drums on Plastic dreams are played by a real drummer, Armand Van Halden denied using it though....sorry for beeing a sample snitch :)

@guymulry6168

4 ай бұрын

Angel remix of Plastic Dreams has the drum loop that sounds identical to the one used in "You don't know me"

Great vid - Are you a buddhist? Trying to see the artwork on your walls.

would be cool to check out the track: Where's The Love I Knew from Vincenco.

Bowwww bow bowwwwwww

@GyuBeats

6 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@ElectronicWitchcraft

6 ай бұрын

@@GyuBeats Classic. Loved the vid, very insightful. Like you say, I find turning to the classics really helpful with learning for my own productions. Do you have any contenders for future videos? Would love to see a poll where we can weigh in on what to discover next!

@GyuBeats

6 ай бұрын

I do have some thoughts :) I'd love to hear your ideas. :)@@ElectronicWitchcraft

@GyuBeats

6 ай бұрын

Thanks btw :)

@gareththomas3283

6 ай бұрын

How about something from Underworld ... Pearls Girl maybe@@GyuBeats

amazing video !!! how about a stab at frank de wulf - the tape remix

I know how the intro synth was made. It is super simple once you find the preset :D

The second drum loop is the Amen?

@gordonhaddow8345

5 ай бұрын

Second Organ is an Organ 2 variant off the M1 - I'm almost convinced that all drums except the breaks are from the M1 too.

breaks on the @ 8:56 sound on the original like amen break and Think break. Both not just looped ubt re arranged.

Receptive state you meant stoned right ;) Robin Alberts also stated there where a few mistakes in it when it was released. But no further expanation was given.

Wasn't it a smashed Amen in the drums? Like Carl Cox Success n Effect

Wiked video.. can you look at bug khan made in 2 minutes, i woud like to know if it really took only 2 mins

In the original video clip he plays main organ riff on the JD 800: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eY5627yfqrOwpLg.html and in the video he also had a live drummer. Not sure whether it was staged just for the sake of recording video.

Another accident happened during the production when Robin Albers (Jaydee) accidently quantized the notes wrong. Then the organ notes were misplaced a bit, where it combined some notes at the end of the track

If someone doesn't turn the moment at 1:06 into a gif, I will be severely disappointed.

Wrong. Breakbeat from from track Breakout’s - Compression (1991)

It was Rave's Green Onions.

WhoSampled shows the drums to come from here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dWSEuqNyZqrFj9o.html but is that right? However, listen to this one. It's the same beat that' in Plastic Dreams. kzread.info/dash/bejne/h5WK18-SYK3aotY.html. And Who Sampled sure enough shows Armand Van Helden sampled it from Plastic Dreams.

Its not JD-800 its JX-8

Hated it at the time, sounded like a graveyard rave tune for zombies

its just amen brothers break aint it?

Yeah, that organ piece towards the end just goes a bit 'oo errrr'...

That accident definitely made the track.

Your not going to find the loops, because he got a drummer to play them.

this song is ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

@threeMetreJim

6 ай бұрын

You missed the CL at the beginning.

What's the use of trying to recreate tracks from the past? 😄

@JT_1

Ай бұрын

Oh dear, go back to Taylor Swift

Break loop: Compression Breakout's. Power Tracks Records

@GyuBeats

4 ай бұрын

OMG!!! Thanks!