Huh, a negotiation that’s actually a negotiation.

@almisami

Жыл бұрын

Weird that it's not the standard.

@dawudhinton5754

Жыл бұрын

Weird....

@ebrimajallow9631

Жыл бұрын

it weird...like so weird to hear and see it actually happen

@segafan10

Жыл бұрын

Usually the lack of negotiation is the company's fault. Studio executives said it's their strategy to wait until the writers go homeless, when all writers want is for residuals to return.

@isabellajustice2910

Жыл бұрын

damn like UPS actually realizes that the ball's in their court on whether or not the economy crumbles

Compromising on air conditioning isn’t great, but this is refreshing news after the writers strike.

@xandermoore6485

Жыл бұрын

i agree, but it’s the only realistic way to do it. having new ones with air conditioning and old ones slowly get phased out is a lot easier than suddenly installing an air conditioner in every ups truck across the usa

@benjaminbesaw7540

Жыл бұрын

It sure is refreshing! Am I right?!

@magenlin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah there's no feasible option to retrofit every truck in the fleet with air conditioning. Like what do you want them to do cut a window unit into the side of the truck. As long as the new ones have AC it will work out eventually

@ScaryWombat

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you, but the feasibility of immediately upgrading all the old trucks isn't high. I hope there's some kind of established timeline for phasing out the old vehicles though.

@lostonearth7856

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, the Union probably only agreed because retrofitting old vehicles in the UPS fleet would have been expensive and old enough that it would have just been better ti slowly role out mordern vehicles instead.

This is how these disputes *_should_* go. The fact that the actor strike went on so long is entirely the fault of the AMPTP. If they had focused on coming up with solutions instead of focusing on union-busting tactics, it would've had a much better and faster resolution.

@mr.fatcat5072

25 күн бұрын

i also wanna point out theres a worse way remember the rail road worker strike where they made it against the law for them to strike

@flakgun153

15 күн бұрын

They had no reason to negotiate with the union becsuse they actually held all the cards themselves

@ethannguyen2551

13 күн бұрын

You... You didn't keep up with how this story ended, did you?

I like being so unaffected by the Hollywood strike that I forgot it was happening

@SporkyMcFly

3 ай бұрын

Is it still happening?

@firstnamelastname153

3 ай бұрын

Rip animators fr

@user-wq7wf6in1l

3 ай бұрын

How about stranger things seaion 5? Dumb show, but fun to binge

@alihorda

3 ай бұрын

Nobody really cared about them, understandably

@potatoheadpokemario1931

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, like new movies aren't being made? Well still have plenty of old movies I haven't watched yet, or have watched but not in years

UPS has an extremely good relationship with their union, and crazy benefits for their employees. I used to work there before going off to college, and both the career path and the union benefits were surprisingly great

@screaming_cat2007

Жыл бұрын

Hmm might work a bit there if a need to find a job

@D00ML0RD1

Жыл бұрын

If you're a driver, ya. Worked there for 3 years as a loader and there was so.e problems and uion gave zero shits about what they did to the loaders

@MikeTsBees

Жыл бұрын

This is not true for FedEx do not work at FedEx

@mr.starly2423

Жыл бұрын

Good to know.👍🏽

@GetOfflineGetGood

Жыл бұрын

If I ever lose my current job I'm gonna have to try for UPS

“Damn I didn’t know you were so chill like that”-guys on strike

@justcommenting4981

Жыл бұрын

Almost like they weren't and that's not at all how it happened.

@urboiblake

Жыл бұрын

​@@justcommenting4981that is what is happening right now. The ratification vote for the contract hasn't even started yet. And yea we are pretty chill about it. We down to strike, but we are chill about it.

@zagerues5453

Жыл бұрын

​@@justcommenting4981can you please tell me what happened I am genuinely curious

@muntadar1655

Жыл бұрын

​@@justcommenting4981 elaborate, big man

@oranthor7394

Жыл бұрын

​@@muntadar1655I mean this is pretty self explanatory my guy, they would not have had to strike if management negotiated like this before the strike happened.

I work for UPS here in Chicago, all bs we get $25.75 but they cut out hours to only 3.5-4 hours. Part time employees lost in this bs contract. I’m on target to make less this year. Just found out in this building (BEDFORD IL) that the supervisors have a bonus just to get us out early. This location has been caught numerous times for wage theft. Still doing it but in other less obvious ways. Sad and f pathetic how far a company will go for it’s disgusting greed

@richardswain5033

4 ай бұрын

@3263 Tried explaining this to my UPS driver, he said I was crazy. Greed is a natural part of human nature regardless if ppl agree or not, very few ppl aren’t greedy. Throw in stock holders desire to make money and you have a failing system for employees (hints the massive layoffs and hours cut) and a great company for consumers to use because of revenue. It’s almost impossible to have everything, UPS in my opinion won this and the employees who we’re singing praise are not singing unemployment.

@HeeroAvaren

3 ай бұрын

Oh no! Increasing the labor costs caused the business to reduce the amount of labor! Who could have seen this coming?

@kylepickus5712

3 ай бұрын

Time to strike again?

@mistergod3

2 ай бұрын

​@HeeroAvaren except thats not true at all? They cut hours, but the same amount of work is still being done, meaning they have to hire someone else part time and pay them that same amount for the same amount of time.... they pay almost exactly the same amount of money.... i think this is more likely to be a strategy to destabilize and weaken the union.

@kkelseym

Ай бұрын

@@mistergod3 Thank you. People who are anti workers getting paid what they deserve for their work fascinate me. These companies are not cutting back on labor because if they did they'd loose money and their business would basically start to collapse. They just found a way around actually honoring the union agreement.

Compromise, what a concept!

I work for UPS and it wasn't that easy. Ups vowed to come to an agreement by the 5th of last month then walked away from the table stating they had nothing else to offer refusing to make any wage increases. They then panicked and rushed to come to an agreement a few days before the contract ended because they couldn't hire enough people to replace us in time. The new CEO cares more about paying her shareholders than their actual employees that line their pockets.

@WildWolfGod

Жыл бұрын

Yup, literally took them down to the wire to even fucking finally come to a tentative agreement.

@Crimsomreaf5555

Жыл бұрын

couldn't hire enough? i applied to ups multiple times and never got hired.

@Kaotic_Beats

Жыл бұрын

@@Crimsomreaf5555 They didn’t start hiring again until two weeks before the contract was over at my location. Stopped bringing in new hires and cut off all doubles for two months to “be able to pass an audit” which they still failed apparently. If you applied during that time there may have been other factors at play in your circumstance.

@primelason

11 ай бұрын

20 year vet here…. You are 100% spot on

@PSNPerfectNinja

11 ай бұрын

She legally has to. See the lawsuit against Ford back in the day

As a mailman I was relieved to hear they weren’t striking. We cannot handle their workload plus our own!

@TechBytes2day

Жыл бұрын

You guys don't get appreciated enough. Be blessed for keeping those bills coming.

@hanavolta9785

Жыл бұрын

FedEx driver here, n we've been dreading all the e-commerce coming our way. Good for them though.

@aydenpayne3405

Жыл бұрын

​@@hanavolta9785FedEx Ground worker and we've been anxiously awaiting it hoping it comes. Pretty disappointing it's not coming but glad these guys are getting better conditions

@SDZ675

Жыл бұрын

USPS is unfunded and can't even handle their own workload

@eddiemarohl5789

Жыл бұрын

As far as Wisconsin is concerned I believe we're still on to strike

This is how most union contracts work here in Denmark. Of course both the union and company will show up with some slightly exaggerated goals and then compromise a little both ways... if the company can document that some specific issue would be too costly to keep the same number of employees, union would most often be willing to figure out a compromise. And vice versa, if your employees needs to work 2 jobs, how can you be sure that they perform their best at your company? Of course both company and employees need to survive. And especially delivery service is something that is still booming while retail is having a tough time given all the Internet shopping. It's not necessarily a high paying job, but I'd say there's good job security, even while some are talking about delivery by drone.

@yulfine1688

13 күн бұрын

Won't work that way here, the unions in the us in many ways have more power over companies than the companies do in return, if you actually look at what happened it was an overall negative not positive for many employees. People really have no clue how things work and the complexity of these situations. Their pay is also very high compared to others and for the limited amount of knowledge and skill you need to so the job. It's why they don't hire many often and have further requirements for a chance to be selected.

That’s probably the best loop I’ve ever seen.

Aight, this is the best loop we're ever going to get. Humanity has peaked in social media creativeness.

@SirCat07

Жыл бұрын

"loop!"

@lunchbox1553

Жыл бұрын

Looks like shorts moved onto another video before you commented. There is no loop.

@LaLiTi

Жыл бұрын

@@lunchbox1553their is a loop, loop

@happy_amoeba

Жыл бұрын

​@@lunchbox1553the dude says loop before the video restarts/loops

@lunchbox1553

Жыл бұрын

@@happy_amoeba I did not see that

Take notes people, this is what a real negotiation is for making your employee's happy and your company happy and successful.

@eddiemarohl5789

Жыл бұрын

With the context I have this looks horribly uninformed. The video makes the negotiations look like they just went through but instead UPS laid off a ton of non union drivers and up until recently were completely adamant about not accepting the unions conditions. If the context of the video was true they could negotiate outside of a contract year and get their basic needs no problem.

@BerryTheBnnuy

Жыл бұрын

Big corporations don't really care about making employees happy. They care about getting the most out of their employees for as little money as possible... But yes you're right, this is what a real negotiation is. Corporations are legally obligated to make the most profit for their shareholders and are not legally obligated to make their employees happy. So, without healthy, properly run unions that are capable of actually hitting corporation where it hurts, its profit margins, there is no way to make fairly compensating employees a priority.

@donw4889

Жыл бұрын

$2.75 raise cost UPS 2.7 billion dollars a year. Which mean raise on shipping cost for packets. 1/4 of UPS profits for the year. Not sure most help $5 hour raise to parttimes will add up.

@BerryTheBnnuy

Жыл бұрын

@@donw4889 It's a total myth that prices go up proportionally to the cost of labor. McDonalds in America is usually $7.25 to $8/hr. McDonalds in Denmark pays $22/hr. A BigMac in the US currently costs $5.35. In Denmark it's currently $5.30. That means that Denmark McDonalds pays almost three times what American McDonalds pays, and its BigMac is 5 cents cheaper.

@guywholikesgoodmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@eddiemarohl5789 "but instead UPS laid off a ton of non union drivers" And that's why you join the union, right there. Else you're way more expendable.

And then UPS fired a CRAP ton of employees

@KansasFarmer620

5 ай бұрын

Good

@erikh9991

5 ай бұрын

Yep, 12,000 is what I saw

@ricksterallain

5 ай бұрын

and invested more money into automation research.

@mc2w

5 ай бұрын

​@@ricksterallain no surprises there

@torg2126

5 ай бұрын

No, they fired the Peak Season workers. The whole month of December is stupidly busy, so leading up to it, massive numbers of people are hired for it. However, there's almost no chance of being kept on past Peak Season, so those workers get just around two months of work, then get fired. They do get preference for being rehired at the standard hiring period, IIRC, but Peak workers are basically never kept on.

UPS has always treated employees better than FedEx, so I'm glad they are working with the union and not fighting the union. It's also why I always choose UPS if I have both options when ordering something.

@CHAOS_ENGINE

15 күн бұрын

Oh, they're both owned by the same people now tho

@TakenTook

15 күн бұрын

@@CHAOS_ENGINE -- Are they? When did that happen? Can you cite a source for that information, because I am finding online that the CEOs are still two different people, and one company is based in Tennessee while the other is based in Georgia

@CHAOS_ENGINE

15 күн бұрын

@@TakenTook I was told by someone who was working there in 2020, there was a merger of some kind-- at least in Alaska

@CHAOS_ENGINE

15 күн бұрын

@@TakenTook Maybe a parent company

@TakenTook

14 күн бұрын

@@CHAOS_ENGINE -- FedEx consolidated a bunch of smaller subsidiaries into one company, but those are still separate from UPS. Maybe in Alaska two local franchisees, one from each company, decided to merge because one of them switched companies. But for each company as a whole, I'm talking about the headquarters: One is in Georgia, and the other is in Tennessee. And searching online for "UPS and FedEx merger" only gets me articles about FedEx combining various FedEx divisions (air, ground, express, etc) under one FedEx group, nothing about joining forces with UPS. In fact, the articles say that combining of several FedEx divisions into one was a move that FedEx made to become more competitive **against** UPS. Now back in 2021 during some of the pandemic related worker shortages, there was announcement that those two companies plus Walmart, Home Depot, etc. were going to try to increase their workforces plus get people to work overtime shifts to help with bottleneck issues at shipping ports. But they were all still remaining as separate corporations.

Damn, a company that is actually willing to give concessions. A great example to all of how it could be.

@hokyosei

Жыл бұрын

The power of striking

@Reverend_Salem

Жыл бұрын

and offer reasonable counter offers.

@anthonyp.4734

Жыл бұрын

@@hokyosei Not really. Is that there job isn't that automated yet. Strikes in wal mart doesn't work because most their job is automated by computers and the folks are only there to move things from point A-B in a one block radius. UPS folks move our entire economy MILES and just two trucks going down can cause thousands of dollars in back log economic downturns. If all trucks go down it will cost the economy billions in white house money. Most strikes dont end like this. Using wallmart as an example where they fired everyone and easily hired a new crew within 48 hours while gaining money through the process.

@pineapple6350

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@hokyoseiNot in all cases, just look at the writer strike…

@voidwalker9746

Жыл бұрын

Damn, a trade union actually negotiating in good faith...

Meanwhile Texas governor just signed a bill to remove mandatory water breaks for construction workers. Also one worker already died of dehydration.

@thecolonel1457

Жыл бұрын

You know that's not true right?

@average_person444

Жыл бұрын

​​@@thecolonel1457ok, yes, it doesn't do that explicitly, but it says that cities can't have safety laws stricter than the state's laws, effectively removing cities' (like austin's) ability to have a healthy amount of mandatory water breaks. Either way, it's a horrible law that is only there to make the governor richer after he moves away from politics.

@bite-sizedshorts9635

Жыл бұрын

You know workers can already take a drink of water whenever they please, don't you? There is no need for a mandated special break for everyone to take a drink of water. That's just ignorant. In the past, there was a "water boy" whose only job was to carry a bucket of water and a dipper around to workers so they could drink water and keep working.

@cursedGalataea

Жыл бұрын

​@@bite-sizedshorts9635 You do know that construction workers work in *teams* right? And you can't just get up in the middle of a heavy operation to get a drink or take a shite and leave the other group members on their own. That's how people get unalived. If everybody is sent for regular breaks at the same time, then everybody is refreshed and focused and able to do the best job possible. If your boss is a scumbag who thinks breaks are lazy and a waste of money, he's gonna threaten to fire you or cut your pay for stopping to rehydrate and slowing down the flow of work. Water teamsters are a great idea! So why aren't there more of them? Is it because company owners are greedy and cheap and don't care for their workers despite every year this decade being hotter than the last? In Canada we call them Safety Officers and every company over a certain size has to have them. My sister is one. It's her job to know if everyone on site is following safety rules (hard hats, toe covers), if people are on break or back from break, if teams are set up to coordinate with each other, etc. And it's also her job to make sure that food for breaks is ordered and water is available. She's personally taken cases of water to crew up on the top floor of buildings. I don't know if you know this, but people who are busy moving steel beams or putting up walls/windows/flooring aren't really focused on carrying around water bottles.

@Chippaization

Жыл бұрын

@@cursedGalataea sounds like you have never worked construction

That Biden voice is kinda on point.

always polite to make the prez seem like he's actually coherent

If this goes through I'm quitting my job and working for UPS

@onyxtay7246

Жыл бұрын

lol They may actually have better benefits than a medical career. It's tempting.

@corbincavitt635

Жыл бұрын

Start a union and get it done for yourself!

@laynepieri4214

Жыл бұрын

@@corbincavitt635 believe me I've been putting out feelers but no one is biting

@angelo686

Жыл бұрын

​@@onyxtay7246I legit just started pharmacy school last week after working in a pharmacy for about 6 years... I might start looking at my options now lol

@ThePandafriend

Жыл бұрын

​@@laynepieri4214 It's always good for every worker if low salaries are raised, because eventually those who have jobs "above" said level need to also get more money. Keeping the lowest low makes it harder for the next to rise. Apart from it being a d*ck mindset to wanting to keep others down, because otherwise they might reach your level.

This actually sounds like a decent job now

@Number1Irishlad

Жыл бұрын

Honesly though, i might apply now lol.

@Uniformtree000

Жыл бұрын

It always was for the lower class and for immigrants in America historically. And still is now to a extent, though not quite as much, hopefully this, and more funding will allow UPS to be a sort of point for people to get into the middle class.

@coltonwilie2761

Жыл бұрын

It always was honestly. It's work but it's solid. I'd say apply if you need a good stable job.

@meeperthepig3358

Жыл бұрын

@@coltonwilie2761 is ok everywhere except Arizona, keep in mind the lack of ANY ac

@ststst981

Жыл бұрын

I was always a fantastic job specifically because of the union. UPS was trying to hire mostly part time workers to avoid paying more, that's what the strike was about

This helped union employees, but ups turned around and screwed their office workers.

"I wasn't expecting it to get to this part"

Glad to see a news org recognizing the EMPLOYERS are the ones who can stop the strike. Not the workers. The workers do what is necessary for themselves to live, the employers do what they need to make the most money

@AnonD38

Жыл бұрын

The workers do whatever gives themselves the greatest benefit, they are exactly the same as the executives. That’s why workers and executives have to negotiate on who deserves how much benefit. Believing workers are somehow some kind of all-benevolent, non-selfish entity is the pinnacle of arrogance.

@envy7522

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonD38 i know workers can be selfish. But the workers do not hold power over executives. In fact most companies utilize union breaking, and many more do whatever they can to avoid letting their workers negotiate. Because workers cannot force negotiations over every little thing, the only times workers actually can force negotiations are when it is absolutely necessary to survive.

@thewhalebear7073

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonD38 The executives are in the position where the worst-case scenario for them is becoming workers. The workers are in the position where the worst-case scenario for them is ending up hungry and homeless. The stakes are completely different.

@annaagapova3583

Жыл бұрын

​@@envy7522they literally do hold power. That's exactly what strike is. It's showing your power, basically blackmailing.

@envy7522

Жыл бұрын

@@annaagapova3583 1. Lol. Lmao. Great take. 2. The individual laborer holds no power over their labor. Only when workers act together, as comrades, do we hold power. 3. I don't think you understand blackmail. 4. Again: lmao.

As a non-Union UPS employee I wholeheartedly stand by any necessary means to get fair compensation for my partners.

@OMartinez91

Жыл бұрын

And the thing is a lot of these benefits actually trickle down to non-union workers, so you also win

@XanderHarris1023

Жыл бұрын

Were you specifically hired as a non union worker, a supervisor/ manager that is excluded from union membership, or you opting not to be part of the union in a right to work state?

@ForteFaiey

Жыл бұрын

​@@OMartinez91Wow.

@Hunty49

Жыл бұрын

You know this means your tax dollars are now paying drivers $100,000+ per year. The cost of sending packages won't go up, the 80,000+ IRS agents will just go after YOU harder.

@selorkiith4461

Жыл бұрын

@@Hunty49 That's not how any of this work...

Just so you know do you see how easy it was to increase pay by an extreme amount and they didn’t even act phased? Yeah the businesses have the money to pay living wages.

And yet no one is talking about the united states postal service and how theyre not allowed to go on strike legally and all of the work place issues they have there, their 97% turn over rate over the past 7 years, their 50 year old vehicles that have no air conditioning and in fact explode into flames on occassion, and their forced 80 hour work weeks with no overtime past 60 hours and their unions that refuse to actually make a differince in any of these issues.

Gotta love when negotiations actually work

Step 1 on how to make your workers agree to work again: give them what they want

@edwardjones282

11 ай бұрын

at least meet them half way, damn. A lot of people I work with work another job. Our company made 500 million in profits last QUARTER. No one should need a second job.

@jansean2497

11 ай бұрын

Or move towards it.

@toastedfish1105

6 ай бұрын

@@jansean2497they always say that

@blushingralseiuwu2222

6 ай бұрын

Being a doormat is also a great way to get into bankruptcy and make everyone lose too

@TheLimepatch

6 ай бұрын

Two birds with one stone

Keep in mind that the rumblings of this strike go all the way back to December when they originally threatened to strike during the holidays, ie the weeks where the most packages get delivered in the US. This has been LOOOONG

Yeah Hollywood writers are totally like UPS workers... Except that UPS provides a useful and critical service and their employees are actually good at their jobs.

Company really did the Keanu Reeves move and said "Yeah, sure, Yeah, I'm gonna need a signature."

@Heisenberger_69

Жыл бұрын

ok how tf is there no replies

“Could have got more?” UPS: “you’ll never know. Get back to work.”

@icarojose6316

Жыл бұрын

Gotten

@doomerbloomer6160

Жыл бұрын

@@icarojose6316 get gotten

@vaporizer2211

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, UPS workers are pretty diligent from what I've seen. This only furthers my respect for the UPS company and its Workers. Corporate or not they know how to properly negotiate with their workers and reach an agreement.

@arbiter1

Жыл бұрын

Maybe or they didn't want to pull a UAW/GM where they ran the company in to the ground and almost outta business.

@Kyle496

Жыл бұрын

​@@arbiter1 This is a TIGHT labor market (exclusing tech obviously), those workers could find work elsewhere easily. Also if your business fails because of a union you ran a pretty shit business that couldn't exist without properly compensating your employees.

Funniest thing about this is how they later layed off thousands of employees. Unions help!

YOU ARE OWNED BY UNION DESTROYER JEFF BEZOS

Applying to UPS unironically.

@vidareklofvonrosen2442

Жыл бұрын

After or before you saw this?

@spookysquirtle

Жыл бұрын

@@vidareklofvonrosen2442maybe after seeing it starts at 21 per hour?

@SuperExplosivegames

Жыл бұрын

@@vidareklofvonrosen2442 after seeing this. Nice to know some companies can put aside their greed when necessary

@boogereater112

Жыл бұрын

Same. I hope I get assigned a NEW truck 😍

@jonathanross149

Жыл бұрын

As a UPS part time worker...the health insurance is amazing. I pay Zero per month. $10 copay for a doctor visit.

Sometimes in order to get results, you have to take drastic measures. EDIT: welp, this turned chaotic quick.

@unawful2549

Жыл бұрын

I tried that once... I was arrested and charged for assault with a deadly weapon

@iohndoe804

Жыл бұрын

BLM riots be like-

@gardraulin4746

Жыл бұрын

@@iohndoe804 Don't even try comparing that scam to this

@iohndoe804

Жыл бұрын

@@gardraulin4746 you got me there.

@eldhaxan

Жыл бұрын

​@@unawful2549should have parried the cops, skill issue

Yeah, they really can't say no, if UPS quit, there goes one of the big three shipping companies (not including Amazon, because they only ship their own stuff)

The Biden charachter wasnt convincing. He didnt fall down, wander off stage mid sentence, or change topics without making a point.

I can 100% see Biden reacting like that to an unexpected press visit lol

@TyphinHoofbun

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I'd think any President would be surprised at an unexpected person making it past Secret Service and all the other security, press or not. "Who are you and how did you get in here without my approval?"

@Reverend_Salem

Жыл бұрын

​@@TyphinHoofbun or any regular person seeing some random stranger just walk into their home,

@osheridan

Жыл бұрын

​@@Reverend_SalemI walk into strangers homes all the time, can confirm

@ghostsmoke11

Жыл бұрын

probably a lot less coherently though.

@godominus9222

Жыл бұрын

I can see Biden reacting like that to an expected press visit

i like how he just says loop like he doesn’t want to explain to joe what the washington post is or smth lol

@jammersdescotch

Жыл бұрын

They are a newspaper

@Lutherson1962

Жыл бұрын

Biden ain’t Trump… he knows the newspaper.

@Baseblazar

Жыл бұрын

​@@jammersdescotchWhat's a newspaper?

@maybe6536

Жыл бұрын

Smart guy. imagine trying to explain to joe what the Washington post is

@Reverend_Salem

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it would be completely reasonable for any president of the US to be confused by someone they dont know, and is unauthorized, making it passed the secret service, in broad daylight, to the oval office.

Ever seen a union UPS pay rate? You’d be shocked at what they earn.

The demands of both sides seem very reasonable, good on them.

Dang, $25 an hour? That's a pretty decent wage. They do deserve it. Some of these guys carry heavy shit all day, deal with traffic, and extreme weather. Almost makes me want to become a driver. Sucky part is, these companies are gonna raise postage to an insane amount to offset. The loss should come from the executives who gouge the company for millions for their own bonuses, perks and stocks.

@Pedun42

11 ай бұрын

That's for the part time workers, the ones in the building. The drivers at full scale pay (driving for over 4 years) will go from $41.50 now to $49 in 2027

@KansasFarmer620

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@ArtemisSilverBow

5 ай бұрын

Plenty of female u p s workers carrying heavy stuff all day too.

@alraapl

5 ай бұрын

@@ArtemisSilverBowuh.. who asked tho..?

@SnoFitzroy

4 ай бұрын

@@ArtemisSilverBow guys (gender-neutral)

They prevented a strike by listening to their employees, who'd have thunk?

@spookysquirtle

Жыл бұрын

Thunk is throwing me of rn 😭

@budbutterson9577

Жыл бұрын

@@spookysquirtle Ya don't say thunk? I love the phrase "who wouldda thunk"

@potatabit

Жыл бұрын

I wish that happened more often. poor railroaders tried to strike a little while ago and Biden hinself denied their cause because they would cripple the nation if they were to do so

We could do without Hollywood ever again and be absolutely fine

Reagan would hated this...

We need FAR MORE unions with that kind of power.

@pierssegal5910

Жыл бұрын

and more employers who understand that just taking an absolute hardline stance in negotiation to avoid relinquishing any amount of power isn't going to get them the best end result most of the time.

@tiredman99

Жыл бұрын

I don't mind unions as they have their place but can you imagine how it would be if every sector of business was unionized? You'd have at least one sector on strike at a time, how would anything get done?

@pierssegal5910

Жыл бұрын

@@tiredman99 there's countries that are exactly like that. The workers very very rarely strike because they already have a fair and equitable relationship with employers. If you snapped your fingers and made everything in the US unionised then of course you'd have strikes all over the place until the employer-employee relationship became rebalanced from the incredibly exploitative place it currently is. Places with high unionisation don't have that same exploitative imbalance between employer and employee BECAUSE OF THE UNIONS.

@pierssegal5910

Жыл бұрын

(They also tend to have much better methods of resolving friction between both parties such that things rarely ever need to boil over to either side taking drastic action to be heard.)

@coupons420

Жыл бұрын

Worked so well for the UAW, didn’t it? 😂 greed always take over, each and every time.

My friends mom would have loved that AC before she retired lol. She was almost 70 and I remember her always coming home in the UPS uniform and complaining about the heat, or just refusing to go to work on 100+degree days

@brushketo

Жыл бұрын

AC 😮‍💨 we haven't attained that magic at the warehouse I work in. Still just half broken fans and anti union type energy.

@MRMIKE276

11 ай бұрын

Shhh, this year is the first year it's been 100+!! Everybody knows that

@VilliageSquidiot

11 ай бұрын

​@@MRMIKE276no, friend, no. The 100 days are now 110. Or even worse, tantric storms in desert areas. Did you see the catastrophe that hit California at the beginning of the year?

@Cigmacica

11 ай бұрын

I got scared i thought for a second you were talking in celsius

@VilliageSquidiot

11 ай бұрын

@@Cigmacica thankfully we're not sitting inside your average gaming PC.... yet

The air conditioning is only coming on new purchases. They have a ton of trucks I've delivered recently with no air conditioning.......

Bro channeled Little Nicky with that Biden impression 😂

"Loop!" cleanest loop of all time bro 😭 Edit: why does this comment have so many likes

@helloxonsfan

11 ай бұрын

Yeah...!!! It's great that he managed to squeeze it in just before the video ended... it's almost as if he timed it ... or something...!!! ... I also like sarcasm... (LOL) 🤣 😂 🤣

@deadpenguinss

11 ай бұрын

​@@helloxonsfanwait... were you being sarcastic about liking sarcasm?

@rikvermeer1325

11 ай бұрын

Loop here please

I'm just a highschooler thats not working and even im excited for them

@donxx1206

Жыл бұрын

As we all should be

Driver facing cameras are a great safety tool

As my dad’s bumper sticker said in the 80’s, “America works best when we say “UNION? YES!””

@tw8464

5 ай бұрын

Yes!

those guys looked at the word compromise and loved every bit of it. if only society worked this easy

@drantil

Жыл бұрын

it's not about society, it's about respecting the working class.

@pawala7

11 ай бұрын

​@@drantilWhich only happens when the working class has equivalent bargaining power vs. the owning class (i.e., unions)

@user-nl2tp9yt3f

7 ай бұрын

Рд

@ChronicAndIronic

6 ай бұрын

@@pawala7which they loose when they pay politicians to pour migrants in by mass then treat them like chattel

Hollywood should take notes

@curiousKuro16

Жыл бұрын

The studios for sure.

@KenanTheFab

Жыл бұрын

yooo Tamari pfp

@GalironRunner

Жыл бұрын

Problem is hollywood is not needed. yea outside the actors and writers people will lose jobs but realistically given most filming isnt even done in the us it really wont hurt as much as something like ups.

@SDZ675

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood isn't an essential service. And with the garbage they've been putting out, they're losing money either way.

@Clippidyclappidy

Жыл бұрын

@@GalironRunner Hollywood employs almost 200k people, just in California. It would have wider implications than just no new movies in theaters if the entire sector collapsed.

Driver Facing Cameras are good things, literally there to protect the drivers from false claims against them, why would you want them gone? That's stupid.

Saw something the other day that the Average salary of full time UPS employees is $100K/year

amazon delivery drivers need to do this asap

@Mikyda3

Жыл бұрын

I thought Amazon had already paid and treated their workers well?

@rnajdbdheje2641

Жыл бұрын

@@Mikyda3Peeing in bottles💀

@Dee-js6mh

Жыл бұрын

@@Mikyda3 lol no

@Dee-js6mh

Жыл бұрын

Amazon delivery driver get paid 18$ an hour while ups/fedex makes 30-40$ an hour.

@beefcake1876

Жыл бұрын

​@Mikyda3 LOL they got a list of banned words on their chat platform including union, break, and slave labour.

As a Ups worker, and with multiple family members in the company I can assure you the only reason the union accepted is because nobody wants an economic collapse. The votes may still end up short, since realistically 21 dollars an hour isn't enough when our supervisors are being orders to rush, and basically bully us into getting done, and off the clock as soon as possible. Additionally outside of the christmas rush, our hours are generally cut to below 4 hours a day, so do the math, we get less than a living wage for being bullied, working our asses off, and having no Air movement, not ac we don't even get air movement, because there is 1 fan to every 5 workers. Final thing, and this is specific to my station, but isn't a problem in most stations, there is a Severe lack of safety, and we regularly get packages far bigger than we can safely deal with, and weigh far more than the average worker can deal with, I'm talking 150+ lbs. Also the starting wage was never 16.20, it was 15.50 just a little thing that was often lied about.

@hvip4

6 ай бұрын

Unions are extortionists 😂 they form a group of low value jobs that anyone can do and then threaten to leave at the same time if they don't get the same pay as people who actually have some sort of unique and valuable skill set. Unions are just communism with extra steps.

@i_i8924

5 ай бұрын

Started after the contract was agreed (but before Seasonal and got my Seniority). Everything they said is true. Lots of rushing at the beginning of a trailer and ending. Unrealistic expectations. You have to grow a little bit of thick skin esp to jerk Sups, just nod and continue same pace. The super Ireggs trailers (120+ lbs) they should send more help but never do then wonder why its taking so long lol. I do like the job, dislike my bosses, hate the shifting schedule (luckily getting moved to different shift). Air quality is probably bad (lots of dust). Lots of safety accidents waiting to happen (broken equipment etc). But there are a lot worse jobs like service ones (getting half the pay for twice the headache).

@Nobody04200

5 ай бұрын

This literal brand new FedEx warehouse opened up near me. I got hired and during the orientation they said it's 3 or 6 months training I can't fully remember but they lied. Me and the other new guy had a trainer for not even a day. They also said during orientation that you're supposed to do team lifts on anything too heavy and this was taught by a "head of safety" I think that's the position that guy was in. Which is a lie the trainers told us to find the best grip possible and drag it. Not to mention they wanted all the heavy shit in the under part of the trailer there was a floor then underneath was more room for packages. I could only imagine the receivers trying to get those things outta there. The only packages they allowed team lifts on were when corporate or inspector or whatever was there. No ac whatsoever. And the water fountains with bottle fill ups were nowhere near our docks. That and we had to ask for permission to use the bathrooms and shit because so many people would go there to catch a break. They said in orientation if it gets too hot let us know and we'll give you a break. That almost never happened. The fucking trainers aren't even really trainers. They just show you everything in about 30 minutes and then they go off too there own trucks and you never see them again. It was super annoying because we literally weren't shown everything in 30 minutes. There was a special needs guy helping us more than the trainers were. And he ended up getting overwhelmed with questions about the handheld device that he didn't know how to really explain he just knew how to use it and that was it if that makes sense. That and he wasn't a trainer but ours were literally nowhere to be found. He complained to the manager we got bitched at for not finding our trainers and ultimately he couldn't find either. Never apologized. And we were only paid 18 an hour and only did 4 hours days for 3-4 days a week. I could barely afford rent and ended up leaving a few weeks later.

@tw8464

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the details

@mileygray7794

5 ай бұрын

So like every other working job in the country? Should we all get a raise? Seams like it would defeat the purpose of one don't you think 🤔

No. We the people need the drivers on camera.😊

Is this an official wp channel? This is the first time i see coverage that shows workers demands instead of anti union propaganda

Kudos to UPS for actually caring about their employees, then again America goes to crap tbh if UPS unions striked

@drehasthebestbeats2874

Жыл бұрын

They don't. Sticking workers into trucks without air conditioning for 8+ hour long work days is quite the opposite of caring.

@true_nomad6141

Жыл бұрын

They dont. Their shareholders forced them to sign because if the union went on strike UPS shareholders could lose tens of millions in the first few day

@albertlofling7310

Жыл бұрын

if they cared about their workers they wouldn't need to strike to begin with

@Eagle1977

Жыл бұрын

as a ups worker, no they don't.

@LazuliScarab

Жыл бұрын

If they did that the workers wouldn't have needed to threaten the biggest strike in history. This is a story about the effectiveness of striking, not the compassion of the business

Isn’t it crazy what a well organized union can achieve? And long term this doesn’t seem like a bad deal for ups either

@AnonD38

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t it crazy what making reasonable demands can achieve?

@TheSteam02

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonD38 Isn't it crazy how coming to a compromise is the way to settle disputes, rather than relying on extremism/tribalism.

@AnonD38

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSteam02 Isn’t it crazy how workers are the biggest contributors to extremism/tribalism?

@kirgan1000

Жыл бұрын

Its more like a Scandinavian union, sure they want more, but now they cant puch it to hard, and the employer want to give less, but know they cant resist to hard.

@YohonaIsTired

Жыл бұрын

​@@AnonD38are you hating on the workers?

Oh and by the way the contract also tied to the over inflated promise of profits to share holders resulted in 12,000 employees getting laid off so good for who?

Of course I would see this a couple of years after I quit 😅🤦🏾‍♂️😂

UPS and Their Union show how a functional Union/Employer relationship should work.

@Darkfawfulx

4 ай бұрын

It isn't. I work there.

Just goes to show, unions work (when they actually represent their members)

@AnonD38

Жыл бұрын

And when they (and the executives of the company) actually want to cooperate.

@hughjazz2408

Жыл бұрын

Ups already makes more money than the other delivery companies. What are they bitching about. Drivers make like 40 and hour

@fyukfy2366

Жыл бұрын

​@@hughjazz2408isn't the whole point of capitalism to try and make as much money as possible? Or is that only true for high level executives

@jjanglesandfriends

Жыл бұрын

@@hughjazz2408damn, weird that minimum pay was set at $25 since they all make $40 in your mind. Does reality often conflict with what’s in your head?

Get that bag ups employees! And if you do strike, we are on your side all the way!

This guy is single-handedly keeping WaPo relevant

This perfect loop changed my life

Woah, a negotiation in which people are not brutally yelling at each other. Once in a lifetime event

@isotope3491

Жыл бұрын

It's a sketch, not a real negotiation.

Just saying "loop!" is my new favorite way to loop a short

Ups just laid off thousands of employees

Ban on driver facing cameras is very underrated. Apparently it’s “to help the drivers in the event of an accident” but I just don’t see a scenario where it would help any more than only having an outward facing camera would. It just seems like something to save their ass and put all of the blame on the driver if an accident does occur. Not to mention it feels very invasive. Imagine a camera mere inches from your face all day that (at any time) dozens of people could access without your knowledge. Driver facing cameras are one of the worst ideas that logistics and trucking companies have had in years. Taxis? Sure. Could save you from false allegations by passengers, but we’re carrying packages, not passengers. Packages don’t make false allegations.

@philbert006

Жыл бұрын

Texting and driving causes more accidents, fatal and otherwise, than the next five causes combined. It ain't so someone can be a voyeur, it's because there's a real problem there. Ups or any other company employing drivers would not last long without something to mitigate that. Wouldn't take killing but a few families and trashing trucks for them to be underwater rather quickly. Most of them have no audio either. Strictly for making sure people aren't playing with their phones or other dangerous distractions while driving.

@OMartinez91

Жыл бұрын

​@@philbert006while that may be their intent, they actually want ways to fire people since seniority gives you a raise every year, so if you can find an excuse to fire someone to replace them with a newer driver that is cheaper than a senior one, then you can just catch them making a tiny mistake to write them up, like say, taking a sip of water would be enough of an excuse to try to write them up

@philbert006

Жыл бұрын

@@OMartinez91 you're no doubt correct about that, and even more so in a union setting. They will always do everything to get rid of senior employees. But they will also not violate the law over something was simple as that, especially not a union job. Maybe working construction, you might get a hard time. But still, they will not do anything like firing someone over water in a non climate controlled environment, or writing them up. That would be admitting to violating law and providing written evidence. Not going to happen. And a union will have all kinds of structured breaks and procedures and have the employer providing ways to cool off, all kinds of stuff.

@Mr.Pants45

Жыл бұрын

Literally every other retail job, and majority of non retail jobs are on camera. It's not a violation of anyones rights to film inside their property, the vans are UPS' property and are allowed to film there. If you're not doing anything wrong while being paid for a job why are you worried about being filmed while doing it. Off the clock or on your own property is completely different.

@506Edai

Жыл бұрын

​@@Mr.Pants45camera in the cars should be fine. I think it's where exactly the camera is, inches from your face, like he said, would actually be annoying mate, let's be honest here

I think UPS leaders realized who the pitchforks and torches would be aimed at if they didn't deliver (pun not intended).

As much as some people don't want to hear it, we need to start requiring Unions in every state. Are they perfect? No, but the majority of Unions protect the employee, otherwise the Employer can take as much advantage of them as they want. At Will employment is the absolute worst, cause you can get fired for no reason or stupid reasons such as pointing out safety issues or unfair policies. And fighting against unlawful termination isn't as easy as it should be, particularly against larger companies.

UPS worker, the increase in wage actually lowered a lot of people in my areas over all pay, because where previously they were getting so and so an hour and 5 hour shifts (we are only guaranteed 3.5, we get overtime at 5+), theyre more stringent about hours and were getting paid more, with overall less hours. I used to make a solid 350+ a week, now i make closer to 270+

@Postc0ital_mal0ne

3 ай бұрын

That's a shame. Put my whole day on hold for just 4hrs pay? I keep getting hiring notifications; if this is it, then I'm disappointed.

Weirdly enough, when you make reasonable offers to your employees you don't have to deal with as much strikes, crasy I know.

@AnonD38

Жыл бұрын

Weirdly enough, when you make reasonable offers to your employer you don’t have to deal with as much striking, crasy I know

@naproupi

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonD38 Yeah sure, the writers made such unreasonale demands, good thing the poor hollywood producers are holding their own against such bullying.

@AnonD38

Жыл бұрын

@@naproupi Demanding that the studios cease any use of AI without permission by a writer/the union is just not going to happen. And then not being willing to compromise on any of their *other demands because "yOu NeEd Us BuT wE dOnT nEeD yOu!1!" is not a sound negotiation strategy.

@naproupi

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonD38 it's funny because that wasn't one on the main demands, just the thing journalists chose to focus on to feed on the "ai steal jobs" Drama They asked for the outdated way writers pay works to be updated to modern standards like streaming, for the studios to stop tricking amateurs into writing for free with mini rooms and for better pay overall, ai was bought up, but a total ban on ai wasn't a deal breaker at all But sure sure they're so entitled to want to be paid for the least glorified crucial job in Hollywood. Studios literally never recognised them exept the last time they went on strike long enough. Also what's the studio excuse ? cost ? They're fine paying actors millions and special effects even more but if the guy who actually wrote the damn story ask for a decent percentage, not even that, just being paid well compared to the average salaryman, nah suddenly money's gone. They could easily let them get most of their demand the same way this video shows, but they do not want to because they don't respect them. And the fact that writers aren't respected in a supposely central place to art creation, should be worrying to everyone.

@PvblivsAelivs

Жыл бұрын

@@naproupi "it's funny because that wasn't one on the main demands" But it was _among_ their demands.

"Seeing as the ups workers have negotiated their deal we will bust the train union and workers for wanting basic human rights."-Every president

Wow, this is like the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. This is how unions and corporations should act (if the job is essential)

I love how even the left-leaning media can't help but make fun of Biden

I'm baffled that every truck doesn't have A/C. Even the cheapest rental moving van has A/C. It's a small price to pay to keep the economy from tanking.

@Algebruh2407

10 ай бұрын

I think the reasoning behind it is that UPS delivery trucks have open doors, which allow air to flow through naturally

UPS plotting how long it can put off buying new trucks just to avoid giving them A/C.

@ThePandafriend

Жыл бұрын

The maintenance cost rises and reliability sinks over time. So unless they're petty they won't put off buying new trucks. Companies don't buy new trucks for the sake of having new trucks, they buy them because it's cheaper to replace than to maintain at a certain point. Also newer trucks tend to be more efficient.

@Zuriki09

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePandafriend looking nervously at those 30 year old trucks still in service.

@fulcrum2951

Жыл бұрын

​@ThePandafriend this is a rational way of looking at the problem And the funny thing is, companies are run by humans and they dont tend to be rational

@OMartinez91

Жыл бұрын

​@@fulcrum2951I'm a UPS driver. I had a really old truck that wouldn't go over 40 miles when it was near freezing. Everyone, even the mechanics, said that truck shouldn't be circulating, except the supervisors, who signed it off to keep circulating in spite of that because according to them, there weren't enough truck, even though there were a few rentals I could use while waiting for the truck to be fixed. It eventually got broken betond repair

@eddiemarohl5789

Жыл бұрын

​@@ThePandafriendin a perfect world but I still see trucks from the 90's it's very much a sunken cost fallacy.

Now lets see how expensive UPS gets for the consumer. Oh and now lets see how many layoffs happen. Lastly, what the ripple effect will be on the economy because of all this.

Perfectly seamless loop, well done.

UPS wanted to give a .35 cent raise and split it up over the course of a year. Yeah, that CEO is a moron. Those guys and gals work too hard for scraps.

@AnonD38

Жыл бұрын

The employees weren’t happy, made their disapproval known and the plan was changed to accommodate the wants of the Employees. That’s not the actions of a moron, that’s good business.

@AnonD38

Жыл бұрын

@EducatedBrute Don’t talk to me until you have read my comment and understood it. You obviously lack this understanding.

@saintchuck9857

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonD38 these are the workers that cause negotiations to sour with their antagonistic rhetoric.

@SirKickz

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonD38 It was only good business because the alternative was a strike. The union was essentially able to threaten the company into compliance. Which is good.

@worstlolplayer8889

Жыл бұрын

Say u don't know what your talking about without telling us

Fun fact, my friend works at a UPS and someone died last year from heatstroke

@RusticRonnie

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they actually forced people to take water breaks every hour. It still happens but they try to prevent it. Its partly do to global warming and the fact we had 120 avg weeks

They get paid more than nurses

that "i dont know" screamed owen wilson gj

I actually left the Indianapolis UPS warehouse due to poor conditions including poor pay compared to hours worked or available. There are still other issues that need addressing, but this seems like a step in the right direction.

Hope the VOTE NO group is able to convince the members on the wing that the contract isn't as good as the PR behind it says it is.

@Gandalf_the_White

Жыл бұрын

I certainly hope so as well. This PR has been horrendously misleading

Never seen a negotiation go this smoothly.

Omg look a company having common sense

Hey, some good news! Glad to see it still exists.

Remember, don't be mad at the striking workers. Be mad at the ups execs that forced them to strike

@chinookh4713

Жыл бұрын

But they comprised and other people still striking

@coupons420

Жыл бұрын

Yes because ups drivers need to make 100k a year, that’s just absolutely ridiculous. And yes that’s how much they make now, an RN barely make 80k , but hey your package being dropped of to your house is totally work it.

@swordaddy5700

Жыл бұрын

@@coupons420 don't be mad that other people are doing well. Have some solidarity. If they push their wages up, then it's easier for you to do the same. Employees only make gains when unions strike. Historically employees wages stagnate without that. Look at the last 50 years as the GOP does everything in their power to destroy unions. Now we are in this mess. Tbf the dems don't help much either.

@chinookh4713

Жыл бұрын

​@@coupons420 The averge driver makes 31 dollars an hour top earners earn around 55 an hour 75th percentile 45 No you are totally wrong. It all depends how long you work for the company experience and opstiotn small package delivery drivers make less then the big rig guys. Wait till you learn machine operators on construction sites (guy operating excavators and such) can make 100k a year. Also these job pay are similar to cost of a product for example higher pay you attract more people and for a country suffering a shortage of truckers it makes sense to see a pay increase. Also drivers aren't the only workers you got people in all areas of UPS make various sums their pilots too cashiers and probably their own maintance crews

@seraphsilent5255

Жыл бұрын

@@coupons420 then pay the RN more? can you *not* see that every worker is being undervalued because we're ALL letting it happen?

“Who are you?” “I’m JD Vance, Trumps VP”

Plot Twist: He didn't have the authority to sign on those deals...