i remember when i was 15 and widened EVERYTHING and then wondered why it sounded good on some speakers and shitty on others😂

@JH4RPlp

Жыл бұрын

I'm 3 years into production and it took me at least a year to learn what phase cancellation was lmao

@ghaataksur

Жыл бұрын

Bro SUS , don't believe every word that comes out of a speaker 👤

@michaelcucchiara

Жыл бұрын

​@J H4RP this checks out I just hit a year and learned about phase cancelation, and phase shifting when using a hard cut on an eq

@muunhead

Жыл бұрын

What does "widening" mean? And what effect does it have? Is reverb widening?

@michaelcucchiara

Жыл бұрын

@Turban Sessions it's referring to stereo width, reverb can make something sound huge but that's different. Most DAWs have a stereo merge/separate built in to each channel, but there are many solid plugins for achieving this effect, such as Ozones stereo imager.

This guys the best he promos his track whilst spreading super good info all at once. What a legend.

Definitely can’t be having zero booty bass in the clubs man that’s a party foul

@kylebrainpresents

Жыл бұрын

😭😭😭

Your song is crisp as fuck 👌

One trick I do to be a bit more surgical than can be done with an EQ is to use the wavetable editor to remove the fundamental (or more) from one oscillator, then remove everything else from another oscillator, and only apply any kind of widening to the former. That way I have precise control over which harmonics stay perfectly mono.

this is SUCH good advice and explains so much

oh yeah playing my tracks in mono sounds like something got muted, so this is why

We love you underbelly

This is actually really well explained

Your song sounds so nice❤

There is a way to widen your sub without phase problem! Dimension expander effect in serum can do that. You can also pan your sub with pitch synced sine wave loaded in noise oscillator.

Shot up overnight is a banger. Love the song, and the peoduction is so damn clean.

Wowzers. I cannot believe this content is free

Thank you for this tip!

Ozone imager is also great for this as you can selectively widen certain frequency ranges

@SlapShotts

Жыл бұрын

How do you do that? My crack doesn’t let me 😂

@zoemakesmusic

Жыл бұрын

​@@SlapShotts either get another crack or try the 'stereoize' Button in the plugin along with a preset

@kahyui2486

Жыл бұрын

@@SlapShotts do u use FL studio? Cos you could just use the frequency splitter plugin to split the low end inside patcher and put a imagining plugging next to it

@SlapShotts

Жыл бұрын

@@kahyui2486 no FL studio sucks

@kahyui2486

Жыл бұрын

@@SlapShotts can u explain how and why FL sucks? You sound ignorant

Didn't know that the Beatles approach to making stereo sound was still so prevalent.

Yes! So many presets come ultra wide to make them sound exciting. The mono sine wave sub signal layer is key 🔑

This guy is fucking awesome

I’ve been loving Shot Up Overnight - feels nostalgic but also new

"I can feel the bass, from the ceiling to the basement"

Did bro really say wowzers

I've never used a stereo widener because I've never found one that didn't sound like ass. If I feel compelled to apply widening it's usually a sign to me that I need to go back to the drawing board and start a patch from scratch or eq other parts of the mix more.

@---pp7tq

Жыл бұрын

Ozone Imager/Wider/Stereo Tool V3/A1StereoControl-x32 (it has feature monoing below certain frequency) and doublers which work for bass in some cases: Vocal Doubler, KHS Ensemble. These are all free. You can use more than one widener for one track/stem if you know what you're doing.

underbelly has goated tips. in alot of ways he helped me achieve my bounce and swing that i have now.

Lower frequencies have less “coverage” since we hear exponentially. So the changes to phase down there will be very noticeable.

I love you SO much underbelly these shorts are killer dude please keep making this stuff

Izotopes imager is also great for this

Much love. This is very useful

yousuckatproducing: **explains how to bypass fx chain of a particular synth for a specific frequency range** multiband effects: **exist**

Wowsers.... Love your videos

Great tip I was struggling with that

Great tip. Wowzers!

incredible, thank you

you're so good

Good advice

amazing content thank you

Thank you !!!!

Wow this makes so much sense. I made a song and was wondering why my bass sounded non existent. Cheers

Sick!!

Lil side EQ on the master cutting up to around 100/150hz (listen for best results, some genres might be lower or higher) helps keep things in mono without too much hassle

@rynabuns

Жыл бұрын

just be careful sometimes, if the sound already phase cancels when summed to mono that trick won't help

@Phosphor_Sco

Жыл бұрын

@@rynabuns yeah ofc but a monitoring plug in before the EQ will help you see if that’s the case :)

@unused0011

Жыл бұрын

But doesn't a mono system play all the frequencies in mono and not just sub frequencies? I don't grt why widening the high end would be ok for a mono system?

@Phosphor_Sco

Жыл бұрын

@@unused0011 nobody mentioned widening the higher frequencies although I would recommend. Yes they would, this is for stereo playback.

@unused0011

Жыл бұрын

@@Phosphor_Sco sorry 🤔

Dani Alves making some EDM😂

Hey man, how can i align sub bass with bass and how to create a sub bass that is basic and most common type? PLEASE MAKE A REEL ON THIS!...

Ooooo thanks bro

I use this all the time

I do this with the spinz 808 and the reason stock stereo imager, making evening below the cut off mono and everything above a bit wider

I just make separate basslines. one for sub and other for wide bass. Makes customization easier

Was so hated on a "music forum" for pointing this out 10+ years ago, ah well.. That was then! :D

Shout out to @glorkglunk ^^

Dude you are so good at communicating. So easy to understand your videos

thanks bro

Wowzers 😀

Drum Bus - All my drums and percs are routed to this channel. Sub Bus - Sub frequencies (below 200 hz) are sent here. I set this one to mono by default. Melody Send - Where al melodic elements are routed If I need to widen the bass, I'll send it to a separate mixer and use an eq to cut everything sub 200 hz, then do my stereo processing there. All of my 'send' channels are then sent to a premaster for pre-master processing before i move on to the master channel In the end result, everything always sounds clean. This is my simple way of doing it if anyone else wants to try.

@abhanzioyaehiz5538

8 ай бұрын

So you mix the high end in stereo if you want to widen the bass?

Luv you

Wowzers!

wowzers

anyone else hear asap distorted records at one point or another in the vid?

Omg thanks so helpful! Wait, 1. What is widening and what does it do? 2. What is "the low end"? 3. If one channel happens before the other, wouldn't it mean the whole bass would sound off beat because one sound wave will play before it's supposed to? How is that not the primary concern, even if it's on a stereo speaker? 4. What's a "SUB"? 5. What's a "vital" preset? 6. What's a sine wave and how is it different from a normal sound wave? 7. What's an oscillator? 💀

Much easier and healthier for mix (I think) will be do it on a master bus in eq - you just loCut side and after that search for point where it will sound the best for mix. For example, in rock mix bass can be in stereo much lower (even to 90 hertz but mostly not lower 100) when in electronic music you need more consistent low end, so it can be 130-150 hertz. But do it only with ears, sometimes there’s no any problem with phase even when your bass in stereo)) Art! Music!

I'm trying to imagine the club that plays EDM to a crowd in plaid flannelette 🤣😆😅

Thx

If I don't like the short video style, how can I watch this video in a normal long video

I love your tips man great content keep it up

You shld make a tutorial for your swimming pools remix

Wowzers

Intro bass sound sounds like the hills intro

Wild

Always freebase the bass

@skrypture1162

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Why use "Sine wave"? Can we use any other waves? Please someone explain

😂 nice info 👌🏽

nice

or using m/s processing

Club systems aren't usually mono, they're so far apart that the sweet spot is only in a small part of the dancefloor. Party at the foh people

would the wide high end get cancelled out on a mono system too?

The 'it might sound great on headphones' part is very noticeable on phone speakers. The waves just get mushed together

exactly the one thing I don't like about spectrasonics plugins

Just use Imager with eq?

whats the plugin?

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very basic shit but very very true

Gimme that preset please

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Wowzers thx

Why do crackup everytime Underbelly?

Shout out glorkglunk

hmmm why do I find this guy so attractive

This is why I double track my bass guitar. Chonks its way through the low end and doesn't care about the laws of physics

What about Utility in Ableton?

@79keydet

Жыл бұрын

it has special button for that "Bass mono" and bass frequency Hz threshold

Underbelly rawks

I didn't know you could do that in vital.

it's under belly gear 😊

But doesn't a mono system play all the frequencies in mono and not just the sub frequencies? What?

@professorpancakes6545

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but the low end is the most important. People won’t notice if your top line disappears but they certainly will notice a drop with no bass.

@unused0011

Жыл бұрын

@@professorpancakes6545 but higher sounds disappear too, surely the same treatment is warranted across the spectrum?

Damn

GLUNK MENTIONED

Most club speakers are not mono.its not 1984

Stop smelling me through the video 😂

@leeroyglasscock

11 ай бұрын

But why? You smell like salami and that attracts predators

Not true, this is assuming that your waveforms are out of phase. A sound can be wider while not being out of phase.

I’m so confused 😕☹️

He lookin'

Nooooo not my booty bass 😢

lmfao