how to use the ratio test for the series of n!/n^n

We will determine if the series of n!/n^n converges or not by using the ratio test.
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    @kingarth0r4 жыл бұрын

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    3 жыл бұрын

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    @eman-id8rw

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @tyrannism5648
    @tyrannism56485 жыл бұрын

    I like the questions that are like "Use the ratio test to-" and then immediately answering "convergent" and moving on to the next question.

  • @sevret313
    @sevret3135 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I looked up how to derive the formula for the Poisson distrubution, as that uses many of the similar tricks in this example which makes it simple to get.

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    @alkankondo897 жыл бұрын

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    @blackpenredpen

    7 жыл бұрын

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    @georgehnatiuk5806

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hello, You have good instincts. Here is a cute problem: Determine the convergence of SUM: n = 1 to n = infinity of | COS(n) | / n^1/3 numerator = absolute value | Cos(n) | denominator = n raised to 1/3 power Then do without the absolute value on Cos GH

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    @happypiano4810

    3 жыл бұрын

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    @happypiano4810

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @Krystaltho
    @Krystaltho7 жыл бұрын

    I helped my friends with this problem a while back and it was really fun. I did it a bit differently but got the same result

  • @golfchan3613

    @golfchan3613

    6 жыл бұрын

    Great job! That's the beauty of mathematics: if you have a problem and solve it two different ways, it's likely(or definitely) correct.

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    @nathanielsharabi7 жыл бұрын

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    @blackpenredpen

    7 жыл бұрын

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    @Dafty23

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @ai_serf
    @ai_serf3 жыл бұрын

    that algebraic transformation to 1 + a/n was pure finesse.

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    7 жыл бұрын

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    @dmorgan0628

    7 жыл бұрын

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  • @brianjesusdiaz
    @brianjesusdiaz4 жыл бұрын

    Evaluating this sum is equivalent to evaluating the integral int_0^infinity xe^x/(e^x-x)^2 dx, which seems to avoid any attacks with methods of contour representation.

  • @kaitlynleffler4019
    @kaitlynleffler4019 Жыл бұрын

    omg. tysm. I've spent at least 10 minutes trying to solve this one problem and i didnt even see there was a definition of e hiding in there

  • @AntoinetteDavido
    @AntoinetteDavido4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your help! Made my homework question more understandable!

  • @gillrowley7264
    @gillrowley72643 жыл бұрын

    You are insanely smart. I used to know this stuff. thank you for the math lessons

  • @gregorio8827
    @gregorio88274 жыл бұрын

    Another way to do it is to see that for n>1, each term is less than 2/n^2, so this sum is at most 1+2*(zeta(2)-1)=2,29

  • @KalikiDoom
    @KalikiDoom5 жыл бұрын

    What is it converging to? What is the number ~1.87985?

  • @cassied9327
    @cassied93273 жыл бұрын

    5:15 as soon as he flipped the fraction I saw where he was going and my mind was blown... I would've never thought of that

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    @nicolaspaglione Жыл бұрын

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    @lovealter42466 жыл бұрын

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    @88Nieznany887 жыл бұрын

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  • @jihanhamdan5465
    @jihanhamdan54656 жыл бұрын

    Does the ratio test tells us always 100% about the convergence or the divergence of a series?

  • @OonHan
    @OonHan6 жыл бұрын

    factOREO

  • @ffggddss
    @ffggddss7 жыл бұрын

    Neatly done! Next question this begs is, what does it converge to? It's probably nothing intelligible.

  • @spudhead169

    @spudhead169

    3 жыл бұрын

    Total Guess: Sqrt(Pi)

  • @ffggddss

    @ffggddss

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spudhead169 Summed up to n=4, it's already > 1.8 > √π = 1.77245385... Up to n=10, it's 1.879627... The infinite sum appears to be somewhere around 1.87985+ Fred

  • @atesemireltutar6661

    @atesemireltutar6661

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ffggddss 1.87985386217526 says some website.

  • @atesemireltutar6661

    @atesemireltutar6661

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ffggddss Not everything have to be related to pi or e or golden ratio or some magical crack .p

  • @ffggddss

    @ffggddss

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@atesemireltutar6661 When did I ever say it did?? My reply was to a comment by SpudHead, guessing it to be √π. Fred

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    @dicksonphisthur33987 жыл бұрын

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    @blackpenredpen

    7 жыл бұрын

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    @davidwright84327 жыл бұрын

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  • @SpiderWick12
    @SpiderWick127 жыл бұрын

    can we get a proof that the ratio test (and other tests) work?

  • @billarosm
    @billarosm7 жыл бұрын

    For the last inequality you could say 21/e>1/3 and because 1/e

  • @spaceclassic8403
    @spaceclassic84037 ай бұрын

    Thank you this was amazing I really liked this explanation

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    @rahibashahna5677 Жыл бұрын

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  • @vanshikhadabur6517
    @vanshikhadabur65176 жыл бұрын

    What is the solution of summation ( N=1 to infinity) n^2 upon n!

  • @jonathanlin5122
    @jonathanlin5122 Жыл бұрын

    this was the bonus question on my calc quiz

  • @sdegueldre
    @sdegueldre6 жыл бұрын

    That's the same as lim(n -> inf) !n/n!, so that means that lim(!n/n^n) = 1/e², pretty amazing how combinatorics involve e so much.

  • @franciscoalves1188
    @franciscoalves11885 жыл бұрын

    nice, thank you helped me a lot !!!

  • @tp0187
    @tp01872 жыл бұрын

    Can you show practical application of this? Or it's just calculus exercise?

  • @smitrakholiya9701
    @smitrakholiya9701 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice explaination sir👍

  • @liuerlin2256
    @liuerlin22564 жыл бұрын

    Better than my professor. Thank you!

  • @colorfulcalculus4526
    @colorfulcalculus45267 жыл бұрын

    I just had my Calculus 2 Final Exam, and a question about improper integral was asked. Question: Which of the following improper integral converges? A. integral from 1 to inf of ln(x)/[ln(x)+x] dx B. integral from 1 to inf of e^(x)/[e^(x)+e^(-x)] dx C. integral from 1 to inf of (x)^(1/2)*e^(x) dx D. integral from 1 to inf of e^(sin x)/x^2 dx E. None of the above I hope you can make video for this question. Thanks :) p.s.: I answered D

  • @uxxlabrute

    @uxxlabrute

    7 жыл бұрын

    James Tantono .

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    7 жыл бұрын

    James Tantono D is right. Use the comparison test with e/x^2 will do.

  • @KalikiDoom

    @KalikiDoom

    7 жыл бұрын

    D converges to (4405072002 π)/4128644111 = 3.351933823297...

  • @ColoredScreens

    @ColoredScreens

    6 жыл бұрын

    Simply from a logical standpoint, e^(sin x) can never be anything greater than e, while the x^2 gets large very fast. Most likely, you know that the integral of 1/x^2 converges, so this is an even smaller function in all cases than 1/x^2. With a little knowledge of how the given functions behave, you can solve without any difficult math

  • @epicswirl

    @epicswirl

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Omar Valentini They do integrals in calc I in america as well it depends on your college or high school curriculum, not your country.

  • @Simaaaan
    @Simaaaan Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @gianmarcomarin8391
    @gianmarcomarin83914 жыл бұрын

    Anyone knows what number this sum converges to?

  • @gonengazit
    @gonengazit6 жыл бұрын

    This is a great example to use the ratio test, Isn’t it?

  • @OonHan
    @OonHan6 жыл бұрын

    So 1^infinity can also approach 1/e

  • @amichaelthomas83
    @amichaelthomas83 Жыл бұрын

    What is this sum to infinity?

  • @BigDBrian
    @BigDBrian7 жыл бұрын

    You can tell intuitively that the terms get smaller and smaller (note, doesn't necessarily prove convergence, see the harmonic series!) n^n takes n and multiplies it by n, n-1 times. n! takes n and multiplies it by numbers smaller than n, n-1 times. It's the same amount of multiplications but the terms get smaller. Therefore n^n will be bigger for arbitrarily large values.

  • @stephenbeck7222

    @stephenbeck7222

    7 жыл бұрын

    I think you can go further with the intuition and see that this series as n gets larger and larger compares to a "p series" with larger and larger p values. The harmonic series (with p = 1) diverges but any p value > 1 converges.

  • @Seokt929
    @Seokt9294 жыл бұрын

    thank you so so much!!

  • @adamp9553
    @adamp95534 жыл бұрын

    I could tell it would converge by the fact that factorial has to grow from lower terms and n^n does not - it has n as the base to its own power, which will become larger quickly, overtaking the numerator as low as 2 for n.

  • @jiaming5269
    @jiaming52697 жыл бұрын

    instead of ratio test, is it possible to find (n+1)th term - nth term to test for convergence? (where the difference approaches zero) it feels correct...

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    7 жыл бұрын

    JiaMing Lim unfortunate it wouldn't work Example is series 1/n 1/(n+1) -1/n is approaching 0 but that series div

  • @stephenbeck7222

    @stephenbeck7222

    7 жыл бұрын

    You can use a similar test for an alternating series (where each consecutive switches between positive and negative), but as BPRP pointed out, it does not work for series that are always positive or always negative.

  • @brunolevilevi5054

    @brunolevilevi5054

    7 жыл бұрын

    doing the ratio test proves that it converges to 1/e or it just proves that it converges to some other number?

  • @woody7480
    @woody74808 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much sir❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @cisienx9764
    @cisienx97646 жыл бұрын

    Plz make a video on hilbert space

  • @miriamlozano395
    @miriamlozano395 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, you saved my exam

  • @mikeljanhajrullaj5784
    @mikeljanhajrullaj57844 жыл бұрын

    And how is that sum, when n=1 up to infinity?! ...

  • @michalnemecek3575
    @michalnemecek35757 жыл бұрын

    I used an online graphing calculator at desmos.com/calculator to find out whether it converges. I created a function f(x) = sum of all n!/(n^n) where n=1 to x, then I created a function g(x) = f(x)-f(x-1). I assume that if g(x) approaches zero as x goes to infinity then the function f(infinity) , which is the original series, converges. by 100 it already said 0 then it started saying infinity because the values were too high to store a value and it was basically doing infinity - infinity and this calculator calculates that to be infinity.

  • @chessandmathguy
    @chessandmathguy7 жыл бұрын

    makes sense and well explained. thanks!

  • @RikardoAHP
    @RikardoAHP4 жыл бұрын

    Converges to what value?

  • @heinzanderson462
    @heinzanderson4627 жыл бұрын

    I fking love ur vids, please why you cant be my teacher?:(

  • @kangkaos4504
    @kangkaos45048 ай бұрын

    what if its the other way around? like n^n/n!

  • @bonbonpony
    @bonbonpony6 жыл бұрын

    Are there any guidelines about when to apply which of these tests and why?

  • @sircakey-5902

    @sircakey-5902

    Жыл бұрын

    no unfortunately

  • @DarkTubeOfWonders
    @DarkTubeOfWonders3 жыл бұрын

    The value 1/e is also the value of convergence? or we use it only to "pass the ratio test"?

  • @peterruf1462

    @peterruf1462

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's only to pass the test. If you start evaluating the sum by hand you start with 1 for n=1 and that is already more than 1/e

  • @RAJSINGH-of9iy
    @RAJSINGH-of9iy6 жыл бұрын

    What is the limit??? Plzzx derive it.

  • @lp4969
    @lp49697 жыл бұрын

    very interesting, but i didn't know the ratio test method, do you have a video about it?

  • @helloitsme7553

    @helloitsme7553

    7 жыл бұрын

    Diego Alonso it's basically based off the fact that geometric series only converge when the ratio is less than one. this 1/e was the limit of the ratio it was approaching, so it's an estimate for the ratio and a tool to see if the series converges or not

  • @lp4969

    @lp4969

    7 жыл бұрын

    HelloItsMe ok, got it thanks a lot!

  • @ammelinecool
    @ammelinecool6 жыл бұрын

    amazing!

  • @ethanJ496
    @ethanJ4965 жыл бұрын

    I misread the title and thought the question is to test if the sum is a rational number. (the sum is finite is too obvious) And I thought, this is interesting. Then I realized I misread the title after fast forwarding the video. I decided to try it myself, using similar strategy which is used to prove e is irrational. Turns out I couldn't make it work. I believe it should be irrational, and likely to be transcendental, I'm wondering how to prove that. Or maybe start from sum of 1/n^n and use similar strategy - but is there a proof for this one? The only discussion I found is 1 xkcd forum post echochamber.me/viewtopic.php?t=66371 . Seems that it's still unknown. But most likely it's transcendental and nobody bothered to prove it.

  • @bruno-tt
    @bruno-tt7 жыл бұрын

    could you make a video explaining what the sum converges to? Wolfram alpha says 1.879, but I'd love to know why :D

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    7 жыл бұрын

    bruno edwards i actually don't know either.

  • @jchry3688

    @jchry3688

    7 жыл бұрын

    blackpenredpen Well acording to a comment, and he use wolframalpha pro, it's in form of a/b pi, which must have been involved in calculus, since the answer is using pi. He said that a = 52949907 and b = 88489346

  • @balthazarbeutelwolf9097

    @balthazarbeutelwolf9097

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stirlings approximation for factorial has a pi occurring in it, but if you use it to approximate this sum you get a lower limit of about 1.773, not very close to 1.879.

  • @mandylee7587
    @mandylee75874 ай бұрын

    超級感謝幫助很大🥺

  • @LiOwLa
    @LiOwLa3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @fountainovaphilosopher8112
    @fountainovaphilosopher81127 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to find to what does it converge to?

  • @fountainovaphilosopher8112

    @fountainovaphilosopher8112

    7 жыл бұрын

    I bet it's some new irrational number.

  • @snipegirl111
    @snipegirl1116 жыл бұрын

    But what is the answer

  • @yahyaazq
    @yahyaazq7 жыл бұрын

    you can use root test note that n!^(1/n)=n/e .. for large number ... root test equal zero ,, then converges..

  • @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    10 ай бұрын

    "note that n!^(1/n)=n/e" I don't think you are allowed to take that as a given fact here.

  • @douro20
    @douro206 жыл бұрын

    We never studied arithmetic serie in algebra when I was in college...I must had missed out on a lot.

  • @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    10 ай бұрын

    That's a topic for calculus, not for algebra.

  • @doctorohmed
    @doctorohmed3 жыл бұрын

    What is infinite sum? 1/(1-1/e) = e/(e-1)

  • @2timotei
    @2timotei7 жыл бұрын

    what does it converge to though?

  • @swuggerman

    @swuggerman

    7 жыл бұрын

    We can't determine what it converges to only that it does converge.

  • @2timotei

    @2timotei

    7 жыл бұрын

    yes but i think there are methods to proove that it converges lower than some value(i remember i had in highschool some *guy name* method that put bounds on limits but did not find them) so i'm asking if we have some upper bounds or estimates yet

  • @swuggerman

    @swuggerman

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well yes you can put bounds and approximate (depends on the applicable test). I don't know if it is applicable for the ratio test or if you can approximate with the ratio test. I do know that if the integral test applied we could approximate what the series converges to same thing with the alternating series test. However, this isn't an alternating series and I dont know how you would go about integrating with something that has a n! in it.

  • @2timotei

    @2timotei

    7 жыл бұрын

    www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum&rawformassumption=%7B%22F%22,+%22Sum%22,+%22sumfunction%22%7D+-%3E%22n!%2Fn%5En%22&rawformassumption=%7B%22F%22,+%22Sum%22,+%22sumvariable%22%7D+-%3E%22n%22&rawformassumption=%7B%22F%22,+%22Sum%22,+%22sumlowerlimit%22%7D+-%3E%221%22&rawformassumption=%7B%22F%22,+%22Sum%22,+%22sumupperlimit2%22%7D+-%3E%22infinity%22&rawformassumption=%7B%22C%22,+%22sum%22%7D+-%3E+%7B%22Calculator%22%7D

  • @swuggerman

    @swuggerman

    7 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I wish I had the ability to know where that value came from, but that is cool.

  • @SkateGeneva
    @SkateGeneva7 жыл бұрын

    isn't your "ratio test" called Rule of D'Alembert?

  • @edgarhakobyan9782

    @edgarhakobyan9782

    6 жыл бұрын

    Claudio Bear & Co. That's right

  • @Azadpandit1008

    @Azadpandit1008

    3 жыл бұрын

    D alembert ratio test is its full name

  • @blackout2325
    @blackout23252 жыл бұрын

    smacked my self on the forehead for not noticing euler there ;( got stuck after the hardest part and came here smh thank you!

  • @eugeneimbangyorteza
    @eugeneimbangyorteza2 жыл бұрын

    Using Stirling's approximation would also confirm this.

  • @jassonHoward
    @jassonHoward4 жыл бұрын

    fuck damn man you are sooo intelligence and you literally own my degrees 100%!!!

  • @glorymanheretosleep
    @glorymanheretosleep3 жыл бұрын

    try putting a (-1) into the first part and then solve.

  • @phyllisstewart5591
    @phyllisstewart55916 жыл бұрын

    I wish you had pointed out that the DEFINITION of e is ( 1 + 1/x) ^ x ... also (1 + x) ^ 1/x. Shows why the answer is based on e.

  • @shivayogappagunnapur600
    @shivayogappagunnapur6004 жыл бұрын

    Sir plss n! -: n^n2 solve sir

  • @maxuix2
    @maxuix27 жыл бұрын

    the flipping trick was really clever, i tip my fedora sir

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    @anshumandutta13734 жыл бұрын

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  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    4 жыл бұрын

  • @milocarteret8770
    @milocarteret87704 жыл бұрын

    Is it enough to say sum(n!/n^n) < sum(n^(n-2)/n^n) = sum(1/n^2)? It seems non-controversial that n! < n^(n-2), so it looks like a legitimate squeeze to me.

  • @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    10 ай бұрын

    "It seems non-controversial that n! That may be non-controversial, but nevertheless, you still would have to prove that. ;)

  • @gottesprototyp567
    @gottesprototyp5676 жыл бұрын

    The series converges even absolutely, doesn't it?

  • @567secret
    @567secret3 жыл бұрын

    Can't you just make comparison test with sum of (1/n) from n=1 to infinity?

  • @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    10 ай бұрын

    And what would be the use of that? The series 1/n diverges.

  • @JoQeZzZ
    @JoQeZzZ Жыл бұрын

    I'm not even ashamed that I approximated n! by Stirling's Approximation and easily showed it converges. Call me a physicist, but we get shit done! (jk, the last part. I still used Stirling)

  • @lieman7136
    @lieman71362 жыл бұрын

    Didn't hear here about mentioning "D'Alembert criterion"

  • @user-vb5ur4ml9k
    @user-vb5ur4ml9k3 жыл бұрын

    Where are you from? Китаец?

  • @diegogg6388
    @diegogg63886 жыл бұрын

    (Phi^2) + (e^i(pi)) = Phi

  • @canr772
    @canr7728 ай бұрын

    log(387661/26)/log(166)

  • @botondosvath2331
    @botondosvath23317 жыл бұрын

    Why can't I use L'Hospital's rule with n?

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    7 жыл бұрын

    Botond Osváth bc d/dn doesn't make sense since n is just a whole number. For LH rule, we have to d/dx

  • @botondosvath2331

    @botondosvath2331

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks :)

  • @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    10 ай бұрын

    Additionally, l'Hospital's rule will give the limit of functions, not of _sums_ of functions. So you could use it to get limits of sequences, but not of series.

  • @aaliaank4478
    @aaliaank44787 жыл бұрын

    can you make a video with an integral test?

  • @varunsrivastava6421

    @varunsrivastava6421

    7 жыл бұрын

    Its just taking an indefinite integral, so like any of his integral videos but with a limit at the end.

  • @aaliaank4478

    @aaliaank4478

    7 жыл бұрын

    you see im only 14 thanks! do you have any university level maths books to recommend?? i would be greatful

  • @varunsrivastava6421

    @varunsrivastava6421

    7 жыл бұрын

    Stewart's calculus is a classic. I recommend briefly going through the first few chapters about limits before moving on to derivatives. After you get very familiar with those (seriously get comfortable with all of your derivative rules before moving on) you can start learning about antiderivatives (integrals). At this point, you'd have nearly completely Calculus 1. After, you can start Calc 2 which introduces the idea of the Taylor and Maclaurin series. I won't go into either right now, but you will learn the ratio test, integral test, and more during this time.

  • @aaliaank4478

    @aaliaank4478

    7 жыл бұрын

    Varun Srivastava i already have covered alot of that. differentation and integration. trig functions expo funxtions, partial fractions, binomials.

  • @aaliaank4478

    @aaliaank4478

    7 жыл бұрын

    Varun Srivastava Many thanks!

  • @dushyanthabandarapalipana5492
    @dushyanthabandarapalipana54923 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!sometimes your letters are not clear.

  • @joshuasalvaa3217
    @joshuasalvaa32174 жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @alomirk2812
    @alomirk28122 жыл бұрын

    I didnt understood why you need to use the fact, n/(n+1) is always less then one in the positives and approaches 1-, so (n/(n+1))^n in the limit is less then one

  • @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    10 ай бұрын

    "n/(n+1) is always less then one in the positives and approaches 1-, so (n/(n+1))^n in the limit is less then one" Huh? Why should that follow?!? There are of examples of sequences a_n which are less than 1 and approach 1, but where the limit of the sequence a_n^n is _not_ less than 1, but equal to 1.

  • @Richard-yw9ew
    @Richard-yw9ew5 жыл бұрын

    i thought root test works better?

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm, (n!/n^n)^(1/n) = (n!)^(1/n) /n and you will still end up the limit being 1/e < 1, so still conv. but the limit is kinda hard to show.

  • @Richard-yw9ew

    @Richard-yw9ew

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@blackpenredpen oh you are right! last night i was thinking about that all night! thank you so much!

  • @SamuelAndradeGTutos
    @SamuelAndradeGTutos7 жыл бұрын

    So... it converges to......

  • @swuggerman

    @swuggerman

    7 жыл бұрын

    We don't know what it converges to we just know that it does converge. For lots of series it is very difficult or impossible to determine what the series actually converges to.

  • @PeterBarnes2

    @PeterBarnes2

    7 жыл бұрын

    Desmos says about 1.87985386218. It converges remarkably quickly, as well. www.desmos.com/calculator/itvuutmzmt

  • @swuggerman

    @swuggerman

    7 жыл бұрын

    The 100th term is still remarkably small in comparison to an infinite number of terms. I wouldn't say that is telling you what it converges to. I could be completely wrong with my interpretation though just my thoughts.

  • @PeterBarnes2

    @PeterBarnes2

    7 жыл бұрын

    You can look at the link I put there and change the value of a to see that the decimal expansion does not change in the first 12 digits after the 32nd term. I don't know about you, but for a simple equation like that, I call that a pretty fast convergence. To really argue about this, we might consider looking at slopes of secants of the function x!/x^x to see just how fast it actually does converge.

  • @willyou2199

    @willyou2199

    7 жыл бұрын

    n! ~ n^(n+0.5) e^(-n) sqrt(2pi) n!/n^n = n^0.5 e^(-n) sqrt(2pi) e^(-n) rapidly kills even moderately small n like 10, so yeah it does converge fast.

  • @clarys2215
    @clarys22156 жыл бұрын

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  • @terdragontra8900
    @terdragontra89007 жыл бұрын

    strange that n!/(n^n) is essentially geometric for large n

  • @SSGranor

    @SSGranor

    7 жыл бұрын

    Not that strange if you're familiar with Stirling's approximation, which shows that n! ~ (n/e)^n*\sqrt(2\pi*n). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling%27s_approximation

  • @Joomarcks
    @Joomarcks6 жыл бұрын

    Could de answer be justified by the fact that n^n grows faster than n! ? High school student here.

  • @enesgusinjac4825

    @enesgusinjac4825

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes but actually no :P

  • @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    @bjornfeuerbacher5514

    10 ай бұрын

    No, that would only prove that the sequence n!/n^n goes to zero. But that is _not_ enough to show that the series converges.

  • @BoBoN4Uto
    @BoBoN4Uto Жыл бұрын

    math guys be like: you converge + L + ratio