Thank you for the information. I know I'm seven years late but I just pulled my Mosin out of the safe and wanted to check it since I can't even remember last time I fired it. Great camera work, right to the point, and easy to follow instructions.

I love my 1943 Mosin, it’s a great rifle!

The middle two notches are used for checking the protrusion, the first notch is just to allow the tool to clear the rim of the bolt head and allow the other two notches to sit flat on the bolt face.

Thanks for the explanation, very good and easy to understand.

Great video. I needed a refresher on this. It's been a year and a half since I took apart my 91 30 and reassembled it.

The best video i've seen so far when it comes to checking an mn pin protuse

Awesome Thank you!! Just got my Mosin today!!

Thank you for this video

Good shit!Thanks for the info Brother..I have not shot my Finnish M39 for a while since i bought it.Thanks for telling me on how to use the tool by adjusting the firing pin as a wrench not the screw driver part at the rear and fucking up the slot..

Great video! Thanks!

Good video, thanks.

Great video!

Good info, thanks

Very simple but informative review, thanks! Even a dummy like me understood. Of course I'll have to go back and reference it again before I do my checks. I heard that a tip when buying a Mosin was to move the bolt full left, then partially bring the bole home (1 or 2 inches from closing), then pull the trigger. Was told if it clicks into place you have a good bolt. Any truth to that? Thank you.

Thanks for a very instructional video. But, what is the first notch on the tool for?

Those tools are also mighty useful for taking the bayonet off and on.

@RockIsland1913

5 жыл бұрын

Yes they are, so long as it's not one of the crude wartime expedient models that barely make it as screwdrivers.

My firing pin tool that came with my 91/30 has 6 slots, 3 on each side, it's a mystery I cant find any information about it.

Thanks :o)

Super cool, ordered one from RTG My Mosin Nagant M91/30 came with everything but this tool lol.

@RockIsland1913

2 жыл бұрын

The tool can be used for the M91 rifle, or any other Mosin bolt, it is necessary for the M91/30 only if the bayonet needs help being removed. The loop " handle" is for removing stubborn bayonets, I have not found this to be an issue on the M91, only the M91/30. They are all over eBay most of the time, and should have come with the tool kit.

@eclectic3618

2 жыл бұрын

@@RockIsland1913 thanks Mine is a 1944 izhevsk ex-sniper, matching bayonet but still a booger to get on and off lol

@RockIsland1913

2 жыл бұрын

The bayonets are supposed to be a bit tight, they were kept mounted on the rifles full time. Bayonets were fitted to the rifles at the arsenals, and numbered to the rifles, but importers often didn't bother to keep them together.

i wonder if the 75/95 numbers refer to .075 thousands of an inch and the .095 thousands of an inch... i would like to see the measurements on a depth gauge... being the guns and tooling were designed in the USA by remington and westinghouse sometime in 1891 i suspect that is the case.

How many mm are those notches?

Sounds like a production screw-up, or yet another variation, millions of tools made over 50-60 years and variations are to be expected, cool to find them when they turned up.

You guys put your bayonet on every time you shoot? Mine shoots steaight either way. And is there an Actual knife or just the screwdriver type like i have?

@RockIsland1913

19 күн бұрын

I never mount the bayonet on the rifle at the range. Safety hazard for one thing, and clumsy. I have the correct Soviet tools to adjust the front sight for windage, and tubing that can be slipped over the front sight post to raise it up a bit to adjust elevation. The Soviets did adjust these at the arsenals with bayonet mounted, or deployed if it's the M44. If you want it to shoot point of aim without the bayonet you use Kentucky windage, or acquire the tool ( there is a US made tool ) to adjust the sight. These sights are not easy to move and are staked in place, It is possible to snap off part of sight base trying to move it, rare, but I have seen it happen. Sometimes you get one that shoots straight with or without the bayonet so range test it first before adjusting things. M91/30 is the spike with screwdriver tip bayonet. Probably is a knife type given how many countries used these rifles, and the Soviets probably did some experimenting, but they would be very rare.

@Blap552

19 күн бұрын

@RockIsland1913 Thanks sir! I actually just needed to re-adjust the Headspace. Best regards!🙂

could you show how to remove the bayonet with the multi tool? I can't seem to get it right.

@RockIsland1913

10 жыл бұрын

1943 Izhevsk M1891/30 Soviet refurbished rifle I show it in this video, not every bayonet fits well, they were fitted at the arsenal to each individual rifle, and numbered to match that rifle. US importers and dealers have been lazy about keeping the matched bayonets with their rifles so you may end up with a poorly fitted bayonet. If this is the case then the tool will likely not help you. I keep several spare bayonets and if I need to mount a bayonet I just swap around until I find one that fits. The bayonet should be a firm fit, the Russians did not issue scabbards because the bayonet was expected to remain mounted all the time. They didn't want it to be rattling around on the rifle.

so, the second and third are for the firing pin length, and the fourth(far right) is for adjusting, but what is the first notch for?

@EliteHunting1911

7 жыл бұрын

Tall Skinny White Guy so it fits over the lip of the bolt face

@thinmizzy365

7 жыл бұрын

doh. why didn't I know that!!!!? thanks.

what is the first notch for? right behind the screwdriver tip? also, I seen online some tools have different numbers so what's up with that?

@flewster

7 жыл бұрын

The first notch is cut so that it fits over the bold head lip. this way you can measure with the 75 mark. it has no use except for that.

@sneakysnakepie1

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks

What would you do if the screw on the back moves after firing the rifle?

@RockIsland1913

3 жыл бұрын

Use locktight to hold it in place if hand tightening failed to work. Check the stock to action fit to be sure there isn't excessive clearance causing enough movement to loosen the screw while firing. This would be noticeable if you can move the action around in the stock while it's all together. If there is movement you could try shimming it using pop can metal, or buy a shim kit if they are around. You do mean the action screw in the back of the receiver right?

Now if one where to lose this tool say in a survival situation how would one go about judging the pin height if that were to occur?

@RockIsland1913

9 жыл бұрын

You set it by eye, after you have had that bolt apart a few hundred times you will find that you don't need to use the tool to set the pin height, you will just use it to confirm what your eyes already told you was correct.

@bill65761

9 жыл бұрын

That was an intriguing question ... ie: what field-expedient technique could I whip up? At first I simply measured the travel of the threads per revolution (~.035), planning on telling you to back the firing pin up until it was flush with the bolt face and then turn it "x" number of turns to set it correctly (2.5 complete turns would have been in "the sweet spot"). Then I found out that my firing pin didn't want to back up that far. I haven't had any reason to fully disassemble my bolt, but it seems to me that the screw should completely back out. More research needed on that point. That, for the moment, is a dead-end. However, I DID find a measurement you could compare the pin height to that you probably would have available ... a feature on the $1.00 bill. The WIDTH of the letters in the serial number of a $1.00 bill are as WIDE (~ .085") as the pin should be high. Fold the bill along one edge of a letter, then again at right angle to that fold so it will lay flat against the bolt face. Eyeball it from there ... you have .010" in either direction to play with. If it looks good, (and you made the folds correctly and are holding the bill flush, not cocked, to the face of the bolt) it is good. Have fun.

when im done checking the protrusion the firing pin is gone when i put everything back together, supposed to be that way? or is it supposed to be protruding as its in my gun, because i cant see it at all when its not taken apart

@RockIsland1913

10 жыл бұрын

You need to pull the bolt out of the rifle, then rotate the bolt handle so it's in the position it would be in if the bolt was closed in the rifle and uncocked. You do this by holding the bolt handle in one hand and rotating the cocking piece with the other until it snaps down, then you will see the firing pin sticking through the bolt head. You measure it in that position.

@TheRealTrucido

10 жыл бұрын

RockIsland1913 right, so what im saying is when you put it back together you dont see the pin right? only when you uncock it like youre taking it apart you can see it, yes?

@RockIsland1913

10 жыл бұрын

Yes, just like you are taking it apart, that is the only time you will see the pin stick through the bolt head.

@TheRealTrucido

10 жыл бұрын

RockIsland1913 Got it, thank you. :) I was concerned thinking you needed to see it once its back together. Thanks for helping me out.

@RockIsland1913

7 жыл бұрын

You will only see the firing pin protruding if you remove the bolt from your rifle and decock it. If the firing pin stuck out all the time it would fire the cartridge every time you closed the bolt.

my pin is screwed all the way in and I've never had a cartridge fail to fire. The bolt is tough to open after firing, though which makes me think the pin is going too far into the primer.

@RockIsland1913

8 жыл бұрын

Easy enough to tell, just examine the cartridge primer after firing, or get the tool and check the pin protrusion, then set it properly. It could also be Mosin sticky bolt. This is caused by a layer of old preservative and lacquer transferred from steel case cartridges adhering to the chamber walls.; Then the chamber heats up this thin layer turns soft and grips the fired case causing difficult extraction, the bolt doesn't want to open unless you smack it hard. Easy fix, 20 gauge shotgun brush on a section of shotgun cleaning rod, wrap the brush with 0000 size steel wool and coat with JB bore paste. Mount the rod into a drill and drill it into the chamber for a minute, do not go into the rifling, clean the rifle and test fire, if it still turns sticky when hot then hit the chamber again.

@William-13

2 жыл бұрын

@@RockIsland1913 I have noticed that the protrusion gauges that have original factory markings on them such as from Izhevsk or Tula tend to be far more precise than the unmarked gauges. (I had an unmarked gauge be way off as compared to some of my factory marked gauges) Maybe the early gauges that still have factory markings were pre/early ww2 due to being of higher precision and quality? Maybe the later gauges that are of lesser quality reflect a greater reliance on the factory zeroing of the bolts since in 1944/1945, Izhevsk figured that since the Soviets were on the offensive at that point(and pushing the Germans back) , maybe the average soldier wouldn't have had the time to readjust firing pin protrusion in the field so more importance was placed back on factory precision and less on infield cleaning kits/tools?

My pin is screwed all the way back and it is still wobbling on the 95 notch. Any advice?

@RockIsland1913

10 жыл бұрын

Happens a lot with the Soviet refurbs, shooting surplus ammo I wouldn't worry much about it, the primers tend to be on the hard side, You could try another firing pin and see if you get a better result. I have a few like yours, shot them all, the fired primers looked normal. Slight wobble, or is it seriously protruding?

Guys I'm ready to fire my new mosin but The multitool I got is really unique It looks different and only has one notch. How am I going to check my firing pin now? My only goal is to make sure it's safe to fire. Any ideas? I don't have any pictures.

@RockIsland1913

9 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a wartime expedient tool, a nice collectable. Not the easiest to use. You can get one like I have in the video above by searching on eBay or gunbroker.com for a Mosin bolt tool. They are not expensive.

@AntiActionFox

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Btw I like the flea market episodes.Gotta film some more sometime.

moseen

great post RockIsland 1913 please send more 91/30 info thanks'.

@RockIsland1913

10 жыл бұрын

What did you want to know about the 91/30 Robert?

@RobertBeveridge53

10 жыл бұрын

Ha RockIsland 1913, I just got a 1932 tula hex rec it has a number 2 stamped on the top rear end of the stock ? would you know what that means?, thank you for the get back RockIsland1913.

@bill65761

9 жыл бұрын

Robert Beveridge Go to 7.62x54r.net for that answer (and a couple thousand answers to questions you had no intention of ever asking!)

@RobertBeveridge53

9 жыл бұрын

thanks Brother for this info that is big help.

75 and 95 what???

Lol gg.

It’s not “ mo seen” it’s “ mo sin”

@RockIsland1913

6 жыл бұрын

If I had a dollar for every different way I have seen Mosin spelled or pronounced I could go out and have an excellent steak supper tonight. Not Russian, don't speak Russian, I pronounce it that way because many decades back an old timer I respected handed me an old Remington M1891 rifle and said it was one of them Red bastard Moseeeeen rifles. Don't matter how the language police say it's supposed to be pronounced, around here it's going to be Moseeeeen until I kick the bucket, right , wrong, or otherwise.

@gofigure84

6 жыл бұрын

RockIsland1913 so because you respected this man so much to fallow his lead are all Russians “red bastards”? Look I get it, it’s not that big of a deal but if your going to tech people about how to properly do something shouldn’t you pronounce it correctly as well. And I have great respect for many but I won’t just adopt something from them and hold it till death just because. But your old and your narrow waist has changed places with your broad mind.

@RockIsland1913

6 жыл бұрын

He was talking about the communists, and yes, they were all red bastards and worse. I was anti communist during the Cold War and that hasn't changed, back then it wasn't "Russians" it was The Soviets, the Enemy, Russia was just the largest of the SSR's that made up the USSR. The Russians you know today aren't the same people who terrorized us under Khrushchev and Brezhnev , and I love the fact that now I get to play with the evil empires toys. Red bastards is probably the mildest thing we called them back in the day, I don't hold the current generation of Russians responsible for the deeds of their fathers and grandfathers and wish them the best of luck in figuring out their democracy. This is a video about the use of an important tool used to check firing pin protrusion, it is not about how I or anyone else pronounces anything. I am not the language expert and I don't recall advising anyone in how to pronounce this or that word, call it a 91/30, Moseen, Mosin, The rifle, or your weapon. This is your rifle, you can call it anything you like, you get to do that when you live in a free society.

@Captcarbide

6 жыл бұрын

Its actually "moseen" in Russian. And nagant is Belgian so it's "nahgon". Correct pronunciation is "moseen nahgon"

@tophersadvice

6 жыл бұрын

Josh Sirum I'd say it's Moe Zin. Not Mo Sin

MOSEEN

I've never seen a bolt tool like this before but I don't know what a Mosin rife is? I will look it up.

my fire pin is inside you cannot see it cant even chamber a round in chamber dont know why anybody have the same problem on m44??