How To Use Polyrhythms For Drums and Melodic Instruments

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In this episode I discuss the concepts of Polyrhythms and how they are used in drum set verses a melodic instrument. The types of polyrhythms covered in this episode are 3:2, 4:3 and 5:4. These concepts must internalized before more moving on to more advanced concepts like metric modulation (think Vinnie Colaiuta) or more complex linear patterns. In future videos I will show you how to use these concepts in orchestral writing.
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Пікірлер: 100

  • @Pirelli913
    @Pirelli9134 жыл бұрын

    It's funny, that polyrhythm you did at 7:19, I play all the time on my thighs and never realized it was a polyrhythm.

  • @will66kg91

    @will66kg91

    3 жыл бұрын

    it’s like that christmas song, Carrol of The Bells I think?

  • @C_CREATURE_

    @C_CREATURE_

    3 жыл бұрын

    funny, I play the polyrhythm at 5:44 on my thighs and never knew it was a polyrhythm.

  • @paulhamilton261
    @paulhamilton2617 жыл бұрын

    i'm learning so much by watching your videos! Please continue with polyrhythms. They are a joy! I will be sending for your book! Thank you again Rick, much appreciated

  • @mg682
    @mg6823 жыл бұрын

    I watched a lotta tool videos and danny introduced me to poly rhythms cuz he was doing things I didn't think were possible on drums. I'm glad I came across this video

  • @jwatt002003
    @jwatt0020037 жыл бұрын

    Can't tell you how much I love these last few videos

  • @yan00919
    @yan009197 жыл бұрын

    i think konnakol technique is one of the most affective to practice rhythms. u just need taka, takita and takadime. 7/8 = takadime takita or takita takadime depending on the accent u intend. it really help me. :)

  • @laceluz6662

    @laceluz6662

    3 жыл бұрын

    Neat profile pic!

  • @colourwavestudios
    @colourwavestudios7 жыл бұрын

    Does Rick Beato Djent?

  • @richardhall6762
    @richardhall67626 жыл бұрын

    I spent lots of time hanging out in the basement of that building on the corner of Boylston and Hemenway from 1974 through 1976. Chafee was putting together some mad percussion ensembles with double drumsets, a bass player two vibraphones, concert grand marimba.Somewhere I’ve got cassette tapes I made of some with GB on vibes.

  • @L.A.W.Studios
    @L.A.W.Studios4 жыл бұрын

    This is phenomenal ...thanks much Rick!

  • @amiryorke
    @amiryorke7 жыл бұрын

    The Best as always.thank you maestro.

  • @InYourDreams-Andia
    @InYourDreams-Andia2 жыл бұрын

    This is gold! Drilling this whole concept again.

  • @annarodriguez2408
    @annarodriguez24086 жыл бұрын

    Oh goodness Thank You I've been asking anyone to explain they would say you don't know you don't know and never teach wow now I see ty BEATO

  • @bhaveshmistry3255
    @bhaveshmistry32554 жыл бұрын

    Sir, You are an amazing teacher and musical genius.

  • @Waltzhybrid92
    @Waltzhybrid927 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Will watch again. Thanks.

  • @richardliles4415
    @richardliles4415 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Rick.

  • @JariSatta
    @JariSatta7 жыл бұрын

    I practice subdivisions and polyrhythms w/ lyrics and words. Rhyme zone for ideas (5-syllables: semitropical 7-syllables: meteorological) etc

  • @Barefoot67
    @Barefoot677 жыл бұрын

    thanks Rick! love the channel

  • @Andrea_Manconi
    @Andrea_Manconi7 жыл бұрын

    I have a feeling that following these classes at the right age, I could have really become a musician (despite my family stopping me from taking music lessons when I was young LOL). Consider yourselves lucky, guys, this is gold!

  • @jaylozier4083

    @jaylozier4083

    7 жыл бұрын

    If only they had Rick Beato and KZread in 1975...

  • @Andrea_Manconi

    @Andrea_Manconi

    7 жыл бұрын

    i was thinking more about the 90s XD

  • @cincinnatipedalsteel4347
    @cincinnatipedalsteel43474 жыл бұрын

    Great lesson rick!

  • @davebristow2813
    @davebristow28137 жыл бұрын

    This video was cool! Videos on how to use metronomes, developing groove/pocket and improving time would also be cool.

  • @wyattstevens8574
    @wyattstevens85742 жыл бұрын

    3:2 is easy: look at Carol Of the Bells. If you consider the high pedal at the beginning as an independent line from the descending figure (except for the first note) the descending figure creates a 3:2 with the pedal.

  • @440vocalizaciones3
    @440vocalizaciones3 Жыл бұрын

    Excelente video!!! Gracias por compartirlo!!!

  • @NahreSol
    @NahreSol6 жыл бұрын

    Really cool video!! I especially loved the examples with piano!!!!

  • @RichardBoyer
    @RichardBoyer7 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting thank you

  • @gerisyandrayusman241
    @gerisyandrayusman2414 жыл бұрын

    Easy & good explanation 🎼🎼🇲🇨

  • @Stratocaster42
    @Stratocaster427 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Rick. Thanks for the video. Very interesting stuff. Funnily enough, I was struggling my way through 5:4 just last night! It'd be very helpful to hear the different polyrhythms at a much slower tempo (even as slow as 40bpm), because it sounds like a bit of a blur to ears that are unfamiliar with the sound. It'd be interesting to hear how the two rhythms interact, like how you did with the 3:2 leg tapping :)

  • @SoundAuthor
    @SoundAuthor7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, this is a great starting point for anyone who wants to know about polyrhythms. I'm not a drummer, but I program sounds for softsynths (specifically u-he Zebra) for cinematic underscore and I really want to create some exotic layered rhythms. I'm looking forward to more polyrhythm videos! :D

  • @savagelocke5548

    @savagelocke5548

    5 ай бұрын

    Uh ok

  • @allmetaliswelcome
    @allmetaliswelcome7 жыл бұрын

    Oof. This reminds me of the time i attende a Virgil Donati clinic and he played a different subdivision with each of his limbs; 4 over 5 over 6 over 7.

  • @jaredhughes556

    @jaredhughes556

    4 жыл бұрын

    And then Jacob Collier did 2 : 3 : 4 : 5 : 6 on one hand...

  • @NominalTopic

    @NominalTopic

    4 жыл бұрын

    Now I’m jealous. That must have been amazing! (Love Virgil Donati).

  • @rockymountainrocker5630
    @rockymountainrocker56306 жыл бұрын

    Nice. another student of polyrhythms.... Jon Bonham ;) Great content as always Rick. Cheers.

  • @nichttuntun3364
    @nichttuntun33646 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your videos due to the diversity and the amount of informative content. I think if you really want to teach a working method for practicing poly rhythms, you should teach how to count them correctly at first. For a beginner maybe this is the only way to understand them and to find a way to practice them.

  • @DavidHenderson01
    @DavidHenderson017 жыл бұрын

    More Vinnie! :-)

  • @JoeyAyalaMandiriwa
    @JoeyAyalaMandiriwa4 жыл бұрын

    Long Life to you!

  • @patrickcunningham618
    @patrickcunningham6183 жыл бұрын

    yea!

  • @Yoyo378
    @Yoyo3786 жыл бұрын

    When i see notes i get fewer :D I was always mentaly challenged when it cames to notes :D

  • @naiyalexic
    @naiyalexic5 жыл бұрын

    The piano thing!

  • @davidknorr5171
    @davidknorr51713 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Aeolian to me!

  • @hankigoe829
    @hankigoe8294 жыл бұрын

    4:40 piano piece

  • @michaelistoma8356
    @michaelistoma8356 Жыл бұрын

    Rick could you make a video about polymeters?

  • @petragaffney135
    @petragaffney1357 жыл бұрын

    Your compositions immediately made me think of Alexander Scriabin. Scriabin uses so much polyrhythm in his compositions beautifully.

  • @humbertosandoval55
    @humbertosandoval555 жыл бұрын

    @Rick Beato I would like so much to hear your opinion on this little australian band that realeased a microtonal album and a polyrhytmic-polymetric album... of course i'm talking about King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard and their Flying Microtonal Banana and Polygondwanaland

  • @corradomanganaro7150
    @corradomanganaro71505 жыл бұрын

    hello can you explain me which figuration uses from the 3.49 minute to play the subdivisions ?? thank you sorry for my english 🎶👍❤️

  • @NominalTopic

    @NominalTopic

    4 жыл бұрын

    corrado manganaro can you explain what you mean by “figuration”? Notation maybe?

  • @GitarrenTobi
    @GitarrenTobi3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a bit confused with the c dorian example. Shouldn't there be an a natural as raised 6 in the scale?

  • @SoundSeeker2024
    @SoundSeeker20247 жыл бұрын

    7:34 Hark how the bells, Sweet silver bells, All seem to say,

  • @apatia777

    @apatia777

    7 жыл бұрын

    i was hearing just that!!!!

  • @PauloSilva111
    @PauloSilva1113 жыл бұрын

    make a video about konnakol, please...

  • @brazilamaral
    @brazilamaral7 жыл бұрын

    u are cool!

  • @robertfoy5886
    @robertfoy58866 жыл бұрын

    More music theory! That is all.

  • @MarcusWoodOfficialVideos
    @MarcusWoodOfficialVideos7 жыл бұрын

    Just so you know, beat division in the U.K. Is different :D we say that crotchets are 1 beat, minims are 2 etc in that direction and quavers are half beats, semi quavers are quarter etc in the other direction ;)

  • @RickBeato

    @RickBeato

    7 жыл бұрын

    You do understand what i'm talking about correct?That's funny because my friend Chris was at my studio yesterday while I was making the video and we talked about the same thing! I will remember that in the future. Thanks! Rick

  • @MarcusWoodOfficialVideos

    @MarcusWoodOfficialVideos

    7 жыл бұрын

    Rick Beato yeah it's still easy to understand :)

  • @RickBeato

    @RickBeato

    7 жыл бұрын

    Btw, my friend Chris is English and we always joke about this :)

  • @MarcusWoodOfficialVideos

    @MarcusWoodOfficialVideos

    7 жыл бұрын

    Out of interest, where/how/what platform do you advertise yourself as a composer in? Is there a network of composers I should join if I am looking for work?

  • @cheezruff

    @cheezruff

    5 жыл бұрын

    You Bloody Brits!

  • @user-rl4dz2ur4w
    @user-rl4dz2ur4w5 ай бұрын

    Can you do a video to play polyrhythmic eith a beat for example in smooth of carlo santana play triplets against beat at eight notes and sound very weird for us begginers

  • @studilocker4439
    @studilocker44394 жыл бұрын

    When I take a 12/16 step bass on a a 4/4 what is that?

  • @uglyjuel301
    @uglyjuel3016 жыл бұрын

    to play 3:2 say cold-cup-of-tea it helps so fucking much

  • @jazu40
    @jazu405 жыл бұрын

    If i play 4 bars phrase 1)7/8 2)5/8 3)7/8 4)4/4, is this polyrythm?

  • @AlanGarcia-mx4rh
    @AlanGarcia-mx4rh4 жыл бұрын

    Genal!!!! Podrias regalarme la partitura

  • @The4lbert0
    @The4lbert07 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Keep 'em coming :) For guitar players interested in getting into polyrhythms, I'd definitely recommend checking out Dean Brown. He's done some pretty cool instructional videos on polyrhythms.

  • @TheSamuraiApocalypse
    @TheSamuraiApocalypse6 жыл бұрын

    Can you use two time signatures at the same time? Would that be redundant?

  • @pzdipuing

    @pzdipuing

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good question dude ita a shame that no one reply on ur question,here is how i would come up,u cant have two time signature if theres one that is totally wrong but u can have different note 8,16,32 if u r a guitar player ur right hand finger gonna work...

  • @trentkraemer7109

    @trentkraemer7109

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes it’s called a polymeter, it can be more musical and versatile than polyrhythms but harder to do

  • @drphalanges1520
    @drphalanges15205 жыл бұрын

    I used to say "Pass the goddamn butter" to help me remember 4/3.

  • @NominalTopic

    @NominalTopic

    4 жыл бұрын

    Phalanges on Bass i used a different expletive 😁

  • @broggsey
    @broggsey7 жыл бұрын

    There's an 11note tuplet in black page by Zappa, I don't know how to begin practicing for that

  • @Stratocaster42

    @Stratocaster42

    7 жыл бұрын

    There's a great video on KZread called "Advanced Rhythm Through Karnatic Techniques". I'd assume an 11-tuplet would be broken up as ta-ki-di-mi-ta-ka-ta-ke-ge-na-ton (that'll make sense when you see the video I'm referring to). Maybe also get a metronome that can play x number of clicks per beat, then set the tempo to say, 20, and make it click 11 times between each beat. Hope this helps.

  • @RickBeato

    @RickBeato

    7 жыл бұрын

    I will be getting to larger groupings in one of the next videos.

  • @ornleifs

    @ornleifs

    7 жыл бұрын

    I would recommend the book "The UnReel Drum Book" by Marc Atkinson, featuring the drumming by Vinnie Colaiuta. It has excellent polyrhythmic exercises and a formula to figure them out which Vinnie uses.

  • @broggsey

    @broggsey

    7 жыл бұрын

    Wow thanks guys I'll take your advice and it makes me feel really good knowing someone who knows things is actually listening, I'm practicing scales going up with one hand and down with the other at the moment trying to master 12 keys I think my brain cells are rebelling

  • @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849

    @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849

    7 жыл бұрын

    @John Roy: work your way up to it. I assume you're already familiar with polyrhythms and the basic groups of 3, 5, 6 & 7 Rick presented in this video? You should practice those slowly at first, in different combinations and melodic contexts, until they "make sense" - meaning until they become second nature to you and you can play them at will, in random order with as little forethought as possible, just like speaking a language. I'm sure Rick will probably make another video taking these basics even further, if so, spend time learning those the same way...gradually working your way up to the peculiarities of whichever grouping Zappa happens to throw at you. By the way, I grew up with a guy who learned "The Black Page" by ear, he had nothing more than basic guitar lessons and a knack for reproducing what he heard. But, when asked to play other pieces with similar types of polyrhythms - like some King Crimson songs we were rehearsing - he wasn't able to pick them up right away, because he never spent time learning the basics...we were all friends but he was still embarrassed. My point is that learning "The Black Page" by ear, without having a background in polyrhythms, is rare, but it can be done, but then what? Then you're the guy who gets called up to play one song then sent to the bar to get the drummer more water, lol. Anyway, hope this helps a little.

  • @tszholam7731
    @tszholam77317 жыл бұрын

    Fantasia Impromptu.

  • @MarkSemsel
    @MarkSemsel7 жыл бұрын

    Ab. That's a C aeolian, or Ab lydian.

  • @dman030
    @dman0303 жыл бұрын

    Nice to hear, but much much easier if you can see it in midi at the same time. Also no point in using different notes.

  • @papasmurf4441
    @papasmurf44414 жыл бұрын

    4:39

  • @mrdragoon3344
    @mrdragoon33444 жыл бұрын

    Nice cup of tea Pass the goddamn butter

  • @robflores5172
    @robflores51727 жыл бұрын

    I suck at this. I find it difficult to feel the 2 pulses separately. 😢

  • @serseriherif9530

    @serseriherif9530

    5 жыл бұрын

    Feel it as one, you need to understand in which (part of the) 4/4 subdivision the polyrhythms fall, so take 2 bars or 3 bars and learn them seperately, then combine the different patterns on 4/4 and bam you got it :D

  • @polyrhythmia
    @polyrhythmia5 жыл бұрын

    There's something about playing 9 against 13 in the space of 4 beats...

  • @neildrachlen9149
    @neildrachlen91496 жыл бұрын

    I believe he does....🤔

  • @bFOURdwZEROlf
    @bFOURdwZEROlf4 жыл бұрын

    do 7:11

  • @apestasguey
    @apestasguey5 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a drum machine hard to distinguish toms

  • @johnnypstevens
    @johnnypstevens3 жыл бұрын

    The opening is like Rick is being tracked by the government and he doesnt have much time to get out this information about polyrhythms

  • @insignia9028
    @insignia9028 Жыл бұрын

    2 types of people here. Jazz people and D J E N T people

  • @stephenpitul4025
    @stephenpitul40256 жыл бұрын

    First of all, the tempo is too fast for introducing concepts. You must start slow and get the ear used to the sounds, and getting the body to internalize the rhythms that are "combined"...I am a Vinnie fan too, and I bet your sweet bippy, Vinnie didn't fall out of his mum just wailing on these either...Let's set the speed knob around 40 BPM and remember...Learn fast=practice slow.P.S. if you can sing "Ring Christmas Bells" the melody is 3:2...something easy to sing and internalize it quickly.

  • @cory8242
    @cory82423 жыл бұрын

    Less talk more show

  • @syedbukhari6578
    @syedbukhari65782 жыл бұрын

    Tempo is too fast.. also you transitioned too fast from one rhythm to the next.

  • @negan7370
    @negan73706 жыл бұрын

    Polyrhythms are crap

  • @cheezruff

    @cheezruff

    5 жыл бұрын

    Then why did you watch this video?

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