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Man , very helpful stuff , very underrated channel , you need more subs man salute

@Jamesthebikeguy

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it!

@tambouyahia8716

Жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy Good morning, from which site or store did you buy Pawls

I used your video to install pawls and spring on an xdr hub. And then install it on my Bontrager Pro3V wheel. It worked. It was too easy so much so I was surprised at how little time it took once I got all the parts I needed. Good Stuff.

Great vid very helpful and the part numbers we’re an awesome inclusion. You rock!👍

Based on your suggestions, I went to my local Treck dealer and purchased new 27.5 Bontrager Line Comp 30 wheel with this hub and added the extra pawls. Many rides on the wheel with zero issues and noticible engagement. Best $130 I ever spent. Thanks 😊

@Jamesthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Such a good upgrade for the cost

This video is just what I was looking for. I have a Fuel ex 5 which Also has the same 54 tooth hub. I love the bike but the latency of hub engagement has been bothering me a bit. You specially notice it when you are going uphill and quickly trying to shift gears. Never realized it was this easy (and cheap) to double the engagement. Now hopefully my local trek shop has these parts. Again super helpful video!

Very useful video James. Thanks a lot for uploading this. I just did it. Blew my mind. Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Hope you have a great time riding!

Great video, informative and succinct for nervous "mechanics". Thanks!

That was awesome! Super helpful- gonna tackle this tonight!

Hey James, I just did this upgrade an I love the difference it made. I feel I have more control in the climbs now. If anyone is sitting on the fence about this upgrade it’s worth it. Really appreciate you making the video on this. It made it really simple and stress free. Thanks a heap!

@Jamesthebikeguy

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad you got it done and have fun!

Yeah, nice job. Thanks for the info. I have line 40's n love em

@Jamesthebikeguy

5 жыл бұрын

Nice, so you have already enjoyed the 108t of engagement!

Super helpful. I'm just about to swap out my Shimano hub for an XD and probably wouldn't have realized that I could upgrade to 108t without coming across your video. Thanks dude!

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Dude. This video is gold! Thank you so much! I will be doing this for sure.

@Jamesthebikeguy

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

@Jamesthebikeguy

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

Thanks I used your video to service my free hub Awesome job

@Jamesthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍 happy riding

The 2022 Trek Fuel EX8 I have comes with a 108 poe hub from the factory. Nice!

@Jamesthebikeguy

2 жыл бұрын

Oh that's awesome

James, your vids helped me steer through my new wheel purchase, many thanks! Liked everyone I came across. The stock wheels on my bike came with this hub; the Bontrager paradigm 25 comp has the 54-tooth hub. My new wheels, the Aeolus Pro 5s, come with 24 teeth. As far as you know, is there any way to switch these, to get the 54T (which would be boosted to 108!) on the Aeolus 5s? Other than rebuilding the wheel to switch the hubs, of course. Thanks + cheers!

Such a well made video. Thank you.

@Jamesthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it, thanks

Ordered the parts. then realised I will need a tool to unmount the 12-speed cassette so I ordered a tool kit. Before using the tool, I first tried to gently pull off the outer ring which comes out of the cassette (which turned out to be the tip of the xd driver, I'm such a noob at this haha) and... pulled the whole thing off all together. All pals perfectly in place. Lucky me. Placed the 3 new pals and springs easily and slided the complete casette with xd driver onto the wheel again. Piece of cake. For sure double as much clicks for every full wheel spin. I'm quite curious if I will also feel any difference. Thanks for the tip

Very helpful thank you!

Replacing my free hub body as my cassette has chewed straight through the damn thing so definitely going to do this upgrade when I get my new free-hub

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

What cassette were you running? Chewing freehub bodies is pretty normal especially for cassettes that rely on individual cogs rather than carriers.

What hey there! Thanks for the tut!!! Sweet! Saving me some doe! What tool are u using to remove the cassette?

thanks for the video, very usefull

Awesome man thank you

good video , not too long - just hat we need to know. Suggestion : include sourcing options for the springs and pawls , most bike shops do not have these parts.

@Jamesthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

The souring option is your local bike shop. Bontrager isn't sold on Amazon, nor should that be the place you buy bike parts.

I'm going to give this a go when I pick up my Aeolus Pro 5's

@clarks888

4 жыл бұрын

You may not notice much difference if you're mostly riding on pavement (which I am assuming based on the wheels you mention). The rapid engagement is really really nice off-road where you tend to stop and resume pedaling a lot more often, and you want the hub to engage quickly. 54 teeth is a pretty good amount for the road though (for comparison, a Chris King R45 hub has 45 points of engagement). The upgrade to 108 teeth on your Aeolus wheels certainly won't hold you back in any noticeable way (the tiny extra drag from three more pawls is only present while coasting), so go for it if you want a fun little project! Put some nice, supple tires on there with latex tubes while you're at it!

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

While Clark is right there wont be that much difference on the road it is still going to be a nice and fun upgrade. Good luck!

Excellent instruction

@Jamesthebikeguy

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

Nice!

It would seem best to add the 3 pawls to go to 108 PoE from 54 when new so pawl ends have equal engagement, as there must be some ware occurring to the pawls contact points on an all mountain E-bike doing a lot of technical climbs in low gear. Correct?

Hey mate great video, just wondering where you got the XD driver from cause i am looking at getting this hub but i need a XD driver for my bike

@Jamesthebikeguy

5 жыл бұрын

You can purchase the xd driver from your local Trek store

You're doing God's work with this video man. lol thank you. oh question though, if one is on a tight budget, would not upgrading to xd driver affect the result of the upgrade? thank you.

@Jamesthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

You can do the upgrade to the stock rapid drive freehub body. The swap to XD was simply because I was changing the drivetrain.

@bobbybrandnew3277

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy thank you so much man.

Have you ever changed the bearings on this hub or know how to. Trying to figure out if you need to remove the ring that the pawls engage with before trying to knock the axle through from the non drive side 🤔

Thank you for the video my question is can i modify the free hub body from my trek marlin7 to use a 12 speeds cassette?? Thanks again

Good video can I make that up grade for any kind of bontrager hubs I have a marlin 7 2019 thanks

Does it need to be specific grease or can I use the same grease i use in my hope hub ?

Thank you

Great Video. My end cap seems stuck on, wont come apart. Any tips on that?

@rickyrez4527

Жыл бұрын

insert into a vise and pull up. (use soft jaws)

Great video! I am in trouble with my 2019 fuel ex 9.8. The free hub is destroyed, on of the pawls has loosend and destroyed the free hub. When I first removed it, the free hub was loose. I cleaned it, took out the pawls and put the wheel back on to the bike. For transportation m.m. When I took the wheel off again, I am not able to take off the free hub. It rotates smooth, but I just cant remove it. So, dear expert, how much force can I use? Or are there any other tips? I am waiting for a new free hub and new pawls, so I dont need to take to much care about the old hub. Am I in trouble or are there some "easy fixes"? I have spaces for 6 pawls, that means I can put in all 6 and get a tighter and stronger hub? Thanks! Sveinung, Bodø, Norway

nice Video, just wondering if i can do the same for duster elite boost148 hub?

I have a Trek with the rapid fire rear hub. So all I have to do is buy the extra pawls and springs if I’m just increasing the engagement points? I just want to make sure because I’m new to all this. Thanks!

cool, gonna ask my trek dealer if they can do this for me on my bontrager wheels.

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they can. Prob charge for parts and a hub overhaul

Awesome video. Im total newb with mountain bikes. Bought my first hardtail last week. (2020 Trek Roscoe 8) Does this upgrade apply to this bike? It has 27.5 Bontrager Line 40. But the hub spacing is Boost 141. (Not the standard Boost 148.)

@BramBiesiekierski

4 жыл бұрын

Just looked at the specs on the Trek site. The rear hub is : Formula DCL-141Q. I take it this is not the one in the video?

Other than a louder hub, what’s the benefit of upgrading to 108t?

Are there any Trek hubs that can be upgraded? I have a 2019 Trek Roscoe 8 that I want to do this with. Just subscribed also... great video.

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Just the rapid drive hubs

Great video. I have a 2019 EX 7 and the hub stopped engaging completely. Since I need to rebuild it do I just buy double to springs and prawls?

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Well it depends on what broke. Have you taken yours apart yet

Hi James...I am currently using Bontrager Aeolus Elite 50....is it possible to change the current freehub to 108t as well as u shown in this video?

Hi Is that work For marlin 5 cuz I’m planning to upgrade my bike to twelve speed the way you demonstrate on the video look cool thank you .

@luongk88

3 жыл бұрын

Will a Marlin 5 hub even accomodate a 12 speed casette?

Is this the hub that comes with a 2014 trek remedy 9 27.5? Thank you

If i have the new sram GX 520% cassette on my bike shouldn’t it already have the XD driver on it ? Including the 108t or is it possible for an XD driver to still have 54t? Cheers from chris

Awesome tutorial!! Will this work on a 9 speed hub as well?

@Jamesthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

No unfortunately

@Jetta32696

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy I didn't think so, but figured I'd ask before I spent the $$ and tried this at home. Thanks!

Can you please add links to where we can buy this stuff at?

I will do the same thing but do i need to change the end cap? Is it the same end cap for shimano/sram?

Im putting line 30 wheelset on my Xcal 8. I have the endcaps from Trek to convert to boost 141. Is the XD driver the same part # to upgrade it to GX?

Thanks for video! Can you share online store where can I find this parts?

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Links are in the description of the video

@oli2977

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy well there not? Where are the links to the products

Hope all can afforf this kind of hub hehe

@Jamesthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

You can!

What can I do if the axle end cap is not coming out? Tried with hand/glove Tried with pliers, using lether to protect from scratches. Any ideas? Thx

Hey great video, I have the 2019 trek fuel ex 5, can this be done to that hub as well or do I have to get a whole new rear hub?

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

New hub. The EX5 does not use this hub

@natedawgg77

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy do you know if the ex 5 has the ability to be upgraded at all?

Is there any big difference of this hub vs those on Kovee TLR X-Caliber 2021 model? The rims are the same though. Trying to justify the xtra $

Careful when pulling the hub off. I shot two pawls across the garage.

Thus the 32 hole rim will be compatible to this 28 hole hub? Coz i have roscoe 7 planning to upgrade my rear hub.

I have line 40 wheels with 54t rapid drive, would I be able to do this same conversion?

It's really a shift design. They are well known for spinning in the rim!

I can't seem to find the Bontrager hub grease online. If I keep the stock hub body, is it absolutly necessary to add grease ? or could i just use my finger to spread the grease that is already on the other pawls? Thank you !!

Can you add links to parts? Having a hard time finding the springs.

@Jamesthebikeguy

5 жыл бұрын

No links are available. These are only available through your Trek dealer.

Thanks for the great video. I have a 2019 Trek Roscoe 8, can I do this upgrade?

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

No that's a different hub unfortunately

@DobbsOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Jamesthebikeguy what about a 2020 Roscoe 7?

@ashleyrylance4472

4 жыл бұрын

Dobbs Outdoors this demo is for hubs labelled rapid drive only

Couldn’t find this grease. Other suggestions for lubing?

where can i buy this special grease? is´t like dt/swis?

Can I also upgrade my hub for the trek x-caliber 7 from 2021?

If i have oval concepts 327 where would i find that part I’m coming up with nothing that says how many teeth are on it

James, can I upgrade my Aeolus pro tlr disc to a more point of engagement and do you know the Bontrager part number I need to buy. Thanks

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

If they have the Rapid Drive hubs its the same PN as this.

I have a trek marlin 6, this will work on that right?

James... I have 2017 Bontrager line pro 40 it has an xd driver but 3 pawls only. What your saying is if I buy the items you stated I can go to 108 no problems? Thanks if you respond!

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Yes so long as they have the rapid-drive hub.

Hello, can you help me ? I would like to know which microspline freehub I can put on a bontrager line comp 40 ?

hi james what is the difference between stock Shimano free hub and the XD driver?

@matthewmoran1271

Жыл бұрын

One is for shimano the other is for sram

what alternative grease can you use if the "special" grease isn't available?

@patrickesper2252

3 жыл бұрын

Same question. Just following hoping for an answer.

Will this work for bontrager 148 boost hub that comes with 2019 stache 7

I've had to replace 2 of my hyperdrive hub they are awful the cassette keeps slipping on the hub chewing it to bits when pressure is applied. I'm looking to replace set up to campagnolo hub and cassette

By any chance do you still have that shimano freebody you could sell?

Hack: Wrap a thin piece of string around the pawls to compress them when dropping into the cage

I cant slide the freehub body in right place. Is it necesssary to remove the casette?

@Jamesthebikeguy

5 жыл бұрын

It makes it easier with the cassette off but not required. Make sure your pawls are seated properly and the bearing spacer in the middle of the freehub is aligned before you put the freehub back on.

So it means that with these 3 pawls you can get extra 54 points of engagement; the free hub always works engaging alway 3 pawls at a time?

@Jamesthebikeguy

Жыл бұрын

The pawls are phased, so 3 work at a time.

If I have an sram cassette on line 30 wheels, can you just add more pawls to it or do you need a new driver entirely?

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Just add the 3x pawls and 3x springs. Your local trek dealer can get these for you.

@czapla1980

3 жыл бұрын

3 pawls, 3 springs and grease ;) That sounds like a crazy cheap upgrade to my new Remedy 9.7 with 27,5 LINE 30 COMP wheelset. I wanted to change wheelset and breaks, but yesterday came up with new idea regarding wheel - a 108t hub upgrade, and better rims. Any suggestions? :)

Does it really make a big difference, because for me (16 y/o) €30 is not cheap for these small parts. And do you think I can use sram butter instead of bontrager lube?

@Jamesthebikeguy

5 жыл бұрын

It is for sure worth it, and comparison very cheap for the performance you get

@mouradmougou5249

5 жыл бұрын

Jamesthebikeguy thanks, and about the sram butter vs bontrager lube?

@trp1751

4 жыл бұрын

@@mouradmougou5249 Lube is lube. Bike specific is a bonus.

May sound like a daft question but what performance upgrade does this give the bike? Does it make the hub more durable in terms of reliability?

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

It gives faster engagement, for better control pedaling. Shouldn't make any difference with reliability

@leethompson5635

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy that's cool thanks man 👍

@Dilberto88

Жыл бұрын

Will the increased POI lend to nastier pedal kickback? I have a 2021 Trek Rail 9.8 GX.

Hi. Great guide. I have got a slight issue though. I am unable to get that little cap off. Tried to wedge something in to remove it but it won't move. Any tips? Thanks

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Rag and some pliers

@bartoszodrobinski2815

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy done and dusted! Great video!

@michielstuip3547

Ай бұрын

I have the same issue! The XD driver end cap came easily off. Getting the Microspline version on was very hard. And even harder to get it off. There is a rubber o-ring inside and on the wheel axis is a ringed slot. I ordered a new one (damaged the cap in despite using a rag between pliers. Also some of the springs got damaged. Ordered new springs and a end-cap! Will soon try it again!

Hi looking at buying some hope wheels. I have a 2018 trek remedy 7 can you tell me which hub body I need please? It’s 11 spd and all original SRAM? Cheers

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

What groupset?

Some say that increasing the engagement of the hub weakens the hub. Is this true? If it is, could someone explain why?

Hi, do you have any idea how to find a end cap for these wheels? Looked all over the place with no luck. Thinking Dt swiss 148x12 might work but not sure.

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

DT end caps will not work. What freehub body do you have, I can help find the PN for you.

@digitechreprographics3837

4 жыл бұрын

Bontrager Shimano Spline Rapid Drive 108t Line Free Hub Body 527058 Trek@@Jamesthebikeguy

James, would this same upgrade work on the Paradigm Comp 25? It also has the rapid drive 54 hub.

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

I believe so. Have not had a chance to pull apart a paradigm comp 25 but I believe it has the extra spots in the freehub body as well.

@cwl020584

4 жыл бұрын

Jamesthebikeguy just an FYI for anyone wondering this same upgrade does apply to the Paradigm Comp 25! Just upgraded the wheels on my Checkpoint ALR 5 to the Comp 25’s and had the hub upgraded to the 108 engagement! Sounds sweet!

I have a domane al3 disc adn it came with a formula hubs and would like to change the free hub to a 6 pawl. what free hub body can be a good upgrade or you recommend? thanks

@Jamesthebikeguy

2 жыл бұрын

I don't believe those wheels have an option for upgrading.

Question: does "upgrading from 54 tooth to 108 tooth by adding (3) more pawls to the existing freehub body make the hub coasting sound louder or quieter ? I want quieter and with less slipping action when I start to pedal again after a freeheel/coasting section of road or trail ... ?

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Louder

@benbassett1124

2 жыл бұрын

Add more grease, for less noise!

@BillDavisVBKI

Жыл бұрын

@@benbassett1124 not really. Over doing the grease just causes other issues.

What is the part number for the Shimano driver please? Thank you.

@Jamesthebikeguy

5 жыл бұрын

Links and part numbers are in the description.

I don't understand. How does adding 3 pawls increase the engagement from 54 teeth to 108 teeth? Adding the 3 pawls does not double the number of teeth in the hub (if it does, how??).

I have a 2020 Remedy 8 XT and wondering if I can do the same upgrade?

@mortadhaabdul565

3 жыл бұрын

What wheels do you have? You have to know what freehub you have!

Will this work on aeolus pro5?

is it mandatory put the grease? What can happen?

@BillDavisVBKI

Жыл бұрын

You'll increase wear on the metal to metal engagement and prematurely wear out your contacts where they engage. It is rather rare to have any metal to metal contact without lubrication. Think of it as you would your car. How will your transmission hold up with no lubrication?

Some link to buy?

Did switching to 10-50 required derailleur adjustments? Guessing you had 11-50 previously?

@Jamesthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

This was a new Wheelset for me so the freehub bady was required for my build. The answer to your question is yes, you will need to adjust the derailleur

@DirtyWabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Jamesthebikeguy im also installing a new wheel set. Which is why I’m going xdrive. I hate adjusting the derailleur. Dammit

Hi, without the upgrade, I would presume the 3 pawls grip onto the hub at the same time (if they are equally divided at least). It seems like adding pawls just adds more noise to you wheel when freewheeling and not really increasing the amount of contact points between the 2.

@Jamesthebikeguy

2 жыл бұрын

When going to 6 pawls you still have only 3 engaged at a time. The additional 3 pawls are clocked out of phase, thus doubling the engagement and decreasing the free travel by half.

@nultianeks

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy ok, now it makes sense Thanks

@thijsgruwez3753

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

What's the actually mechanical effect or advantage of doubling the number of pawls? If the ID on the ratchet teeth is about 30mm than each pawl will move a maximum of about 1.5mm (ok 1.72mm) until it catches the ratchet (engages). Given that the number of pawls doesn't change that distance, engagement cant be any quicker. Six points of engagement will certainly be stronger because there will be less stress on the parts but how often do pawls fail from a compressive force? 40 years ago when ratchets had fewer teeth, there was some advantage to more pawls because you could get a tiny 'dead spot' before the pawls engaged but with 30 plus ratchet teeth (54 on the Bontrager) that's not a thing. The noise aside (which sounds great - NGL) is there any way to measure this increased strength or notice any difference? Also what does 108 tooth engagement mean? Each pawl still engages with 54 teeth and you're not doubling the number teeth. 3 and 6 tooth engagement would be more accurate.

@masterg7895

2 жыл бұрын

I understand that you have good knowledge of mechanics and how things work, there's no doubt. But i did this upgrade at the Trek shop recently and there is a very noticeable difference in the engagement when pedaling and when just moving the bike around, the ratcheting sound is twice as much, just from moving the bike around and letting the wheel turn slightly, the amount of clicks you hear is insane!

@willemteale5020

2 жыл бұрын

The hub is 2 phase, so the gap between the pawls vary, so when you add the extra 3 they engage as the other 3 are inbetween the teeth in the drive ring

@rickyrez4527

Жыл бұрын

you change your engagement of the drivetrain from 6 degree to 3 degree which feels instantaneous. more engagement points helps when climbing rock gardens, or climbing in general... only downside is the added friction (and noise). basically great for climbers and sprinters not so much dh or descenders. if serviced properly you should not worry about the pawls failing.

Hello, do you think that upgrade would be possible in Trek Fuel EX 5 from 2021? The hub in tech specs is described as "Bontrager alloy, sealed bearing, alloy axle, 6-bolt, Shimano MicroSpline freehub, Boost148, 12 mm thru axle" . There is nothing about "Rapid Drive". I've noticed that on EX 8 from 2021 the hub is described in the same way.

@Jamesthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

It will not. The 2020 EX5 came with the generic Bontrager hubs. (Rebranded OEM).

@peteradamczyk

3 жыл бұрын

Sad :( Thank you for the fast answer.