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@Scudmaster11

3 жыл бұрын

you do know sata is a fake

@Scudmaster11

3 жыл бұрын

a hdd has complete data speed of 50MB - 80MB... IDE has a limit of 133MB

@Scudmaster11

3 жыл бұрын

and 50MB to 80MB goes for IDE and SATA hdd’s

@Scudmaster11

3 жыл бұрын

im on team IDE

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

@@Scudmaster11 What? you make no sense. This is an IDE100 Speed interface. Obviously a sata SSD is MUCH faster than that, so you're not getting the full speed of the SATA drive, but you're still getting a much faster experience than with a hard drive since you basically have no seek time, and it also produces less heat, less noise and consumes less power. It is also far more reliable than a hard drive.

Hey, i know this is an old video, but if anyone reads these comments, the adapter is capable of much faster speeds. I bought the exact same adapter with a samsung 128gb msata ssd. I have mine installed in an older laptop then the one in this video, its a dell inspiron 8100 with windows xp sp3, ATTO disk benchmark is hitting 80MB/s on reads and 75MB/s on writes. If you do this upgrade you need to make sure your storage controller is using UDMA and not PIO mode. You can check this in device manager, find your IDE/ATA ATAPI Storage controller and right click and go to properties, at the top click advanced settings and see what the current settings are, if it says PIO mode you want to change it to DMA, reboot and test it with ATTO disk benchmark. My old dell inspiron 8100 has a maximum of UDMA mode 5, that's ata100, UDMA mode 6 is ata133. this adapter /SSD combo is ata133. I hope this helps someone that does this swap and can't figure out why its still slow.

@pumelo1

Жыл бұрын

Best option is buy original industrial PATA disc with read/write neer 80Mb. Many old Laptops have not UDMA 6 but only 4 or 5. This 100+ pata ssd discs exist, but price is too high. I have with this type of PATA SSD reach close 80/80Mb on UDMA 5 in Win 8.1. I have also this PATA/mSATA converter but with msata KingMAX 60GB 540/540 disc.Not this sh......low end CHINA disc.supposedly Zheino M3 have 540/140🤑 and as you say correctly, it is good to check the Bios to see if UDMA is enabled😉

@lilkuz2005

Жыл бұрын

@@pumelo1 in the past 10 years or so I have experienced a high level of hdd failures. From desktop drives to laptops and game consoles. I'm not sure the cause of all the failures but I have fixed this issue by installing ssd's.

@pumelo1

Жыл бұрын

@@lilkuz2005 The old 2.5 PATA were very faulty. I myself bought a new drive 10 years ago and after a few days it started behaving strangely and started having bad sectors with sata drives no longer had such problems. I have an 18-year-old HP NX-6125 with a Turion MT-37 2gb ddr and old industrial disk at home, but it behaved badly in XP and Win 7, probably because the cache is only 1Kb and there were big delays, I move to Win 8.1 which are 100% ready for SSD drives and all is OK.

Had no idea such enclosure existed. Thanks a lot! Gave new life to my old laptop.

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Thanks bud. I'm really glad to have salvaged my oldest laptop as a homework machine for my nephew - he's not old enough or careful enough for a more valuable machine yet and i also like to role model minimum waste tech use!

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome man! I still have a few old machines, and this has breathed new life into them for sure.

Thanks for this! I'm going to be upgrading my old IBM ThinkPad A21M with this. I bought one eBay about 5 years ago and completely forgot about it as I only used it a handful of times and had it in storage. It wasn't until I was looking through my storage that I found it again. Man, its been a long time since I've worked with PATA drives.

Hello! I have exactly the same old laptop model. I was looking for a reliable way to update its old HDD. Today i bought the enclosure for my old laptop. Thanks for the review! Greetins from Mexico!

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

Thank you. I am searching many videos... Finally.. I catched you.. Good work.. 👏👍

@AICvideo

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome.

Already done this on an old Hp I have using and adapter and a msata drive. What a difference in boot up and speed access.

@AICvideo

5 жыл бұрын

So worth it for older computers.

awsome video ,, , not a bad price for the parts on amazon , i have a old dell laptop with the slow ide hard drive ,, iam going to install windows 98 se on the laptop ,, ,, before it had xp windows ,, iam going to buy the parts,, that did improve the speeds

Just tearing into an old Alienware Area 51m 7700, I will likely be duplicating what you have done here! Thank You!

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! breath some life back into that machine!

identical case is also available for m.2 format, might be an even cheaper solution. both will work in a mac mini G4 & boot in OS9 and OSX.

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Good to know, it was hard to find the ssd that fit, an m.2 would be a good option for sure. they are far more common.

Thanks for this mate, I am a bit disappointed you didn't compare boot times though

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

maybe next time? I've been sick with the covids, maybe I can work up the energy to do that.

Retro, here I come 😁

Excelente tutorial felicidades de mucha utilidad

This is very helpful. Thanks!

I want to do this to my Gateway mx7515 AMD Athlon processor but I was also looking at the Q3 mdata. Is this one ok too? What's the diff btwn Q3 and M3?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Provide me the links to what you are looking at.

@kimr.9906

4 жыл бұрын

www.amazon.com/dp/B07F8P7VY3/?coliid=IZ4K37L6P1G0G&colid=2U3177SDCXZWH&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm... It looks like the difference is the read/write speeds, all of which exceed what the ide 133 interface can handle.

I have a Syba Dual Compact Flash CF to 44 Pin IDE/PATA 2.5" Adapter Enclosure with SanDisk Ultra 16GB. I got avg 85MB/sec. 🙂

I wish there was a msata adapter for a 3.5 ide hdd

M.2 SATA to IDE : Great !

I miss the whining noise from hard drives but hey... I'm about to become Druaga1 with my computer collection!

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

Don't get me started, I have so many stupid computers right now I need to start selling some again.

@lukedavis436

3 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo yikes!... Half of mine live in a garden shed and im trying to switch to collecting laptops more than desktops

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

well I buy so many for reviews that are not special in any way to me, just the current flavor of something to review. I then sell them to buy the next thing.

@lukedavis436

3 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo ah i see, I'm more of a collector and enjoy all the machines i get however i keep most of the earlier ones and give the modern ones away

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

I try to keep my collection to just ones that mean something to me. It’s still a pretty healthy number, but I have too many other collections as well.

GOOD

The speeds you have suggest that maybe your old drive had been switched to a lower udma mode (to fast for pio mode highest is 16.7 mb/s) in the os because the drive was failing, and possibly the cloned drive is stuck in the same mode. 33mb/s is around udma 2, crystal disk info, will tell you the current transfer mode and the supported transfer mode of your disk. you can set transfer mode with hdat2 from dos.

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info, I will have to look into it. I only use this for some old games.

Thanks 💯

Hello! I have a few questions: 1. Is the adapter limited to ATA-33 aka UDMA Mode 2? 2. Do you have DMA mode activated in the device manager? Or is the drive stuck in PIO mode? 3. Does the drive activity LED on the laptop still work after the upgrade? 4. Have you had any problems at all with the adapter on any OS?

@AICvideo

2 жыл бұрын

I don't see any options for DMA, so I am guessing it is stuck in PIO mode. It's significantly faster than the spinning hard drive that was in there, so I hadn't thought about it. hard drive light does work, and windows 7 and Linux would not install to the drive, but windows XP had no issues. This is just a toy for me I drag out to play some old games or something, and not a serious use machine, so it works well enough for my needs. you may be better off, if you need real performance to go with a dedicated IDE SSD: amzn.to/3LgJVSz They are more expensive, but have much better performance than messing with an adapter.

@Anilocin

2 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo OK, thanks for the reply. You can check if you have DMA enabled under the Windows Device Manager: Under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers (click the (+)) should be the IDE controller. Under it should be listed the Primary IDE Channel. Under advanced settings, "Current Transfer Mode" should list what mode the drive is running is. Could you perhaps tell me what is listed there? Thanks.

I just ordered a NOS ide drive for my thinkpad t42 that runs a couple programs that I still use. get them off amazon while you can. Drops right in, probably much less expensive, and it is possible that the machine will not recognize all that extra drive space on your new huge ssd.

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

I searched for NOS IDE on amazon, and got 0 results. My windows XP machine recognizes the full storage available without issue. Going older might be an issue, but for this solution, this was BY FAR the cheapest I could go at the time I did this video. Other options might pop up every now and then, but this has been consistently for sale since I've made this video.

@larsbliss2728

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo Try using ATA 100 as the search criteria. Decent drives starting at about $30.00.....

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Just looked, and you are right, 32gig ones start at $35, which is a huge price drop from when I originally did this video, however, the enclosure I used is $11 and a 120gig SSD is $24, so for the same money you can have nearly 4x the storage. If your system allows for the larger storage, I would go that way for sure.

@larsbliss2728

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo It is always good to have options. I would maybe spend the money on my T42 but it is old and used for just a few things where major disk space isn't necessary, just more than I have now. Best thing is working on old machines is fun and keeps us out of trouble!

Need help with the USB cable used to clone the drive. Can anyone help me with the name and link to buy.

@AICvideo

Жыл бұрын

amzn.to/3MOqwLe

Tengo una presario v2000 y se calienta demasiado. No se porq

I suspect inside of those retail high-priced PATA SSD drives are the similar enclosure solutions like what you show here.

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

It depends, I had one before and it was a bespoke device. But that was many years ago now.

@kgmakogon

3 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo industrial solutions still exist and they are beyond a consumer’s reach

Great Video! By the way I have a question, I have a hp notebook model (17-bs025cl) and I can't really know if my optical drive bay supports SATA (and which SATA version if it supports it) because I'm planning on installing a SSD in the optical drive bay using a caddy I've tried lots of third party software and they say it's an ATAPI.. I can't seem to find an answer on the web on what is this ATAPI or whether my device controller is SATA or IDE please if you can help me in anyway.

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

This video doesn't apply in any way to your laptop... you just need to buy hard drive caddy like this: amzn.to/30Qlbbg (do some research to see if there is a specific one for your system) and away you go. IDE was phased out well over 10 years ago. This is for older laptops from the early 90's through the mid 2000's. not a laptop that is

Good video, really helpful, .......I want to do this with the old IDE hard drive on an old notebook, my question is, do all IDE hard drives have that adaptor over the pins like the one in your video?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

That depends on the computer, a lot of HP's of this era have this connector, but I have an older HP that does not. If you have a complete system, you can just reuse that connector. I cannot say without actually opening up the system and looking.

@HektorBandimar

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo Thanks for your reply, it's for an old Toshiba Tecra M1. Much appreciated!

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

I would look for a tecra m1 tear down on youtube. not every laptop is available, but there is a good chance you can find it.

@HektorBandimar

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo Thanks again, appreciated.

@HektorBandimar

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo Can I ask if the SSD set up you used to replace your IDE drive is still working ok?

we had point POINT! 411now we have 12.45 LOL

It is possible to replace the TURION 64 @ 1.8 GHz for a TURION 64 X2 @ 2.3 GHz and use NVme storage?

@AICvideo

Жыл бұрын

No, the x2 is a different socket and incompatible. www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/AMD/Turion_64_Mobile_technology/index.html That is your upgrade list. you can search your specific model to see what is the best upgrade for you. No point in trying to do an NVME storage, as the storage interface is IDE100, and you will never get faster speeds that that. upgrading to the adapter with the sata SSD I show in this video will get you a drive that performs faster than the interface, making the interface your bottleneck.

@enterBJ40

Жыл бұрын

Got it. Thanks a lot for your inputs.

Thanks mate, very useful! What could a 7200 rpm be, compared to the SSD?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Hotter, more power hungry, and slower.

@francescorenna

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo Thank you!

I See The mSATA At 128gb, But Can You Drop A 1Tb mSATA In A Acer Aspire 9500?

@AICvideo

2 жыл бұрын

no idea. it depends on the laptop, the bios, the cpu, and the copy of windows you're using.

6:45 an old spinning drive's has been noisy, always has been lol

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

They get louder as they get older.

can i do this with any laptop? i have a dell latitude d610 and some forums says that the maximun for the laptop is 100GB but am not sure if i can use a ssd that way with my laptop

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

If it’s too big, just create partitions. And it really depends on the laptop.

Hi, great informative video. I have an asrock n68 gs4 FX motherboard and I want to install ssd into the system but I can't find AHCI in the sata operation mode. I tried raid but it won't detect other drive that I have which I use for games etc. Do you have any idea how to go about this?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry I don't. You should be able to just plug the SSD in. The system should be able to use it as any drive. At least I've never had to do anything different when upgrading an hdd to an SSD

@acik1994

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo Yeah I'm kinda stuck here. Asking around if anybody knows. Thanks anyway!

Man, this adaptor is just for notebooks or can be used on a comum desktops too?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

I don't have any desktops to try it in. I don't know if enough power is sent over the IDE in a desktop to power it.

@Sijelo

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo Hmmm, I think it cannot be used because on the normal PC the input / output information is separate from the power input. Anyway thank you.

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

they have stuff like this for compact flash: amzn.to/2BBON5A it takes power from the floppy drive power adapter, and you can get compact flash to SD adapter: amzn.to/3jN0JTc

@Sijelo

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo ok, I will analyze this to see if it is worth spending on something that is already very old and limited. thanks for answering.

Greetings, Please can you tell me what Laptop this is , or what is the full name of this Laptop? Thanky you very much for your answear.

@AICvideo

Жыл бұрын

Compaq v2000 with an AMD Turion CPU.

@ilmimexhuani8120

Жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo Thank you Ser

You should have maxed out the SO-DIMM DDR2 at 4GB for 32 bit Windows XP and you would have felt much more difference. Besides, data transfer speeds for IDE range from 5MB/s up to 133MB/s (ATA100/133). Why are you getting only a 1/4 of that? Did you have to change anything on the BIOS?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

I had tried a single two gig dimm and it didn't boot. I didn't know if it isn't supported or if I had a bad dimm, but I had two 1 gig sticks, and they worked great, so I stuck with it.

@youtubecommenter4069

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo, had a similar problem but on a Windows 10 64 bit system for a laptop but maxed by changing addressable RAM: Command Prompt > System Configuration > Boot > Advanced Options > Maximum Memory then change to target RAM upwards to match (Tick) and reboot. Could have this similar in Windows XP. Anyways, thanks for the nice tips

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

System wouldn't POST. Much less boot into the os.

@enterBJ40

Жыл бұрын

DDR 2 is not compatible. The notch In the shipset is different size and doesn't allow to use DDR2 . slots are for 2 1 giga shipset according to literature around internet.

this must have been an ATA/33 interface limiting your drive.

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Probably, but the performance is still much better than a hard drive.

how do you get an amazon affiliate link?

@AICvideo

5 жыл бұрын

You partner with amazon.

Can you please supply link to your screwdriver

@AICvideo

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man. I got it for free YEARS ago at a trade show. This is the closest I could find in a quick search: amzn.to/39xjAOD

That's awesome! What do i do though i buy an IDE SSD to put in an old laptop that didn't have an HDD in the first place?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting. What laptop had no hard drive to begin with? do you have a make and model?

@thingshappen9199

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo Yeah, i got it for dirt cheap but it came without RAM and HDD and wanted to make it a project bringing it back to life. It is an HP NX9010. The hard part is getting the software to boot it up. PHEW

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure why you say that computer didn't have a HDD. it very much came with one initially. just google "windows XP pro install ISO" and you'll find tons of them out there. just burn a DVD.

@thingshappen9199

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo I got it off ebay like that. I can use a flash drive too right?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

Just... buy a hard drive for it. You'll need a caddy if you don't have one, and then you can buy what I demonstrate in the video for an ssd (links in description) or just buy an old IDE hard drive.

Just bought laptop for car diagnostics. Guess what 😄😁

You get limitations ide speed???

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

yes, the SSD is still limited to IDE speeds. but it is sill faster than a spinning drive. it also runs cooler, and uses less power.

@arthurpuntuan

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo I think it's so waste by upgrading SSD to such IDE port. I don't understand the bottom 3 of your disc crystal test.. But the read n write comparison is almost nothing (before 28/22 after 35/32 ??) when you operate it, do u feel the huge difference? And btw, why don't you use the DVD port? Do you think it will result better performance?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

@@arthurpuntuan It is FAR faster and more responsive in real world, it uses far less battery power when I'm on battery, I get over half an hour longer overall use, if not more, It is also generates less heat, and it's right at your wrist level. I was not going for all out performance, with the IDE drive, you are limited to a low interface speed. I was going for increased reliability and capacity, and got other benefits with it. the DVD port runs off the same ide interface.

@arthurpuntuan

4 жыл бұрын

@@AICvideo did you upgrade the OS to Win7 atleast? What about the RAM... u upgrade it to 2GB total? Do u know is it support DDR PC3200 instead of DDR PC2700 (factory standard)?

didn't get one bit...

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

I don't understand this comment.

So are you going to install win 10?

@AICvideo

4 жыл бұрын

I have tried several times. It just gives me an error for a hardware failure. I gave up. I don't think windows 10 likes the adapter. I run windows XP SP2 on it.

@pvtpeppers6176

4 жыл бұрын

@AICvideo- wow, sorry to hear that.

@abrahambello7043

4 жыл бұрын

Yo tengo una presario v2000 y le e instalado Windows 10, Windows 8.1 y Windows 7.