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Great interview! Honored to have two of our snakes in Lori's program, love watching her updates on them.

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Very impressed with your willingness to do the extra work enabling higher cognition for the buyer. Think it’s something that more breeders should be engaging with.

I wish this video was required for everybody looking to buy their first pet royal python. It needs to be shared far and wide! I was also wondering if Lori could post this on her KZread channel so it would reach her audience as well.

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

That would be a great thing for many snakes. I think she shared via her feed

@Ali-kf5bd

8 ай бұрын

I'm thinking of getting my first ball python, and I'm glad I found this!

@Eternal_11_Sasha

25 күн бұрын

@@Ali-kf5bd Same here! I am doing research to be well informed and prepared.

Bravo you guys 👏🏼 this was such an informative interview that should help change some minds. Both of my royals live in 120 gallon vivariums with lots of climbing opportunities and enrichment and they are doing great at transitioning from the small tubs they were kept in at their previous homes. I am finding exactly what Lori mentioned happening with both of them. They were both at least a year and a half when we brought them home and they are learning to climb, explore more confidently, and aren’t as food driven as before. We give them choices as when to eat and have completely abandoned the “schedule” of feed them on Sunday with the lights down low, after sundown. They tell us when they are hungry and they have gotten more muscular and lean. So happy with their progress. Lori’s channel has been such a factor, as well as yours and Bob Bledsoe, the person Lori mentioned. Great information done in a very playful manner. You are all doing such wonderful and important work at educating people about how these animals should be kept. We are supposed to be here to help enrich the lives of our animal family members not just put them in a box in the corner and toss a bit of food at them once per week. We wouldn’t do that with our dogs, cats or other living beings we being into our homes.

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Thank you hopefully we can move forward with education and leading by example

I gave my royal a 10sq foot enclosure and he uses all of it. Also he comes out around an hour or two a day to explore (supervised). And he definitely learns and has a bold attitude. Always eats never strikes, great video as usual

This is a wonderful and insightful video and offers science based, concrete information on what we can do to upgrade captive management of captive ball pythons to make their lives better. Kudos to Liam, Lori and Ellie. ❤

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Our Pleasure!

I'm considering buying my first ball python, and I'm glad I found this. So many breeders and even an exotics specialist veterinarian told me that a dark tub is what's best for them but after doing some research I found this video which seems to be one of the most educated opinions on the matter that I can find. I'm now looking into a 120 gallon enclosure before I bring a snake home.

@MrKingVulture

5 ай бұрын

Just make sure you have more than one hide and keep them close. Enjoy💯

I lost my beautiful bumblebee boy this week, he was 11 years old I got him at 18 months old, he became poorly in October 23 and I tried everything to get him well I spent a small fortune at the vets but unfortunately I had to take him to be euthanised on 17/05/24 I am devastated. I made my mind up that that was it I’m not having any more snakes, I’ve had 4 over the last 45 years and each time I’ve lost one I have been so upset, but having come across your channel and seeing your passion for enhancing the lives of these wonderful creatures I think I will have another one soon once the rawness of losing Buzz has passed, I am going to get a larger viv and set it up like you have done for your snake Mo, thank you for all the brilliant information and the motivation, you have given me what I needed to carry on and not throw in the towel.

1:28:40 Bob Bledsoe!!! @GreenRoomPythons ! We love you

I'm really stoked Lori gave Bob a shoutout!

I would love to see video examples of the food seeking behaviours and how Lori distinguishes them from other behaviours.

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Her channel has entire videos on it

A lot of snake knowledge between the both of you, keep up the great work.

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

My sand boas climb quite well, however I have given them very gentle and supportive climbing opportunities. I can imagine that they might fall otherwise.

I wish that what you guys discussed in this podcast episode was the sole focus of the pet trade, and less on collecting as many reptiles as possible.

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

I think through education and leading by example we can start pushing others forward with us

I was new to reptiles and I had just about given up on believing that they could be ethically kept as pets based on the keeping styles of most “experts” when I found Lori’s videos. It changed my whole perspective on how snakes could be kept and I love following her advice my snakes are capable of amazing things!

I took Lori's advice to ask the breeder about personality and it absolutely paid off I couldn't be happier with him

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

That’s great! Did you get him today?

@luwildy

Жыл бұрын

@@ReptilesandResearch no I've been watching Lori for a good six months now she did a video about how to select your snake and I got my royal about two months ago

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

@@luwildy sounds like a good home

My royal comes out a lot. He'll come out for a few hours in the middle of the day and a few hours in the middle of the night I see him all the time. Just the other day he was out from 2pm to 6pm and that's pretty normal for him. He'll go back to sleep for a while and hide and then again in the middle of the night like 10pm-2am. I think part of the reason he's out during the day is because he's been in a large vivarium since he was super little. He's very resilient and curious

I love that you had Lori on I've been watching her for a while now and she inspired how I care for my royal. I've been target training and he's progressing quickly, she gave me an excellent tip to get my snake eating frozen thawed and it worked the first time. My snake is happy and active I'm so glad I watched her before getting my ball python(Salazar.)

This changed my whole approach I was about to go full rack systems but now I wanna keep my collection small 💪🏻. Great work everyone needs to watch this

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Awesome talk, you should make it a once a week podcast! Im so glad my royal came from a breeder that handle theyr snakes alot. She is not fearful or anything like that. She is abit shy but I think thats from going from rack to 4x2x2 viv. I have 3 hider, sticks and vines to climb, fake plants, big waterbowl and random clutter so she feels safe in that big tank😊 and she eat for me after only 3 weeks so big viv is fine for eating.

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

There is a podcast episode once a week

This was a great video and truly a must watch for snake keepers. Thank you for talking about the habitat situation and hopefully keepers will provide species specific environments for them. I also think that the wild caught snakes that are taken from their natural habitat to live the rest of their lives in a rack must come to an end. We have enough captive bred snakes to choose from and if there isn’t a species from captive bred breeders that you want then too bad. Leave the wild ones alone

It's one of the best interviews I have seen and very informative I actually watch Bob Bledsoe and lori Torrini and have gained so much information with my my ball python which is newly acquired and use the information I have learned through lori to target train my chahoua gecko to get him shift out of his cork bark hide to feed him insects out onto an limb and now started target training my python as well with the enrichment that bob uses and it has made such a huge difference keep up the great conversation and very informative content very thankful to have such great channels to learn from

This was utterly fantastic. I can’t believe the view count. This video needs to reach more people 1000%.

On the subject of BPs as pets- I'm so glad my schedule aligns with my snake's activity patterns! When he's up and exploring, it's usually after midnight-- if I was sound asleep then, I might think that he never came out!

Very inspiring work and precious knowledge sharing! This channel deserves to be a top one in the world of snake-keeping!!

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Wow! Glad you think so!

Does Ellie have a youtube channel or anything? I'm always looking to follow more better breeders and keepers on here.

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

instagram.com/banoffeepiepythons?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

She ends up talking about differences shes noticed in behavior between color and morphs, I hope she ends up studying it, it's very interesting.

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

That would be very cool

I just got my first ball python last week. A beautiful firefly leopard boy, he’s about to be three months old and he’s in a 15qt bin for quarantine rn. This week he was out all hours of the day two days before feeding literally all day every time I went in there he was pacing and pushing on his lid and I think it was because he was hungry because on feeding day he struck immediately and ate it immediately but I felt so bad for him. Can’t wait to get his next enclosure ready he’s going in a 40 glass temporarily until I have enough for his 4x2x2 PVC

Came across this accidentally. Thank you so much for creating this video/podcast! It is very interesting

What an absolutely fantastic video - l cannot thank you three enough for doing this. This is invaluable, to say the least, for keepers and reptiles alike, and will hopefully clear the way to lifting the hobby and the mental and physical welfare our our royals to the next level!

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Franka that is our plan, it should be every keepers goal to push on from where we entered the hobby. If we are not advancing we are stagnating

This has inspired me to improve my python's enclosure and provide more stimulation. I have realized I have been underproviding for him and I will fix this right away.

When I got my first ball python I was told get him onto rats right away keep him in a tub and all the usual things to bulk him up . I also had a carpet python which I rescued from a bad situation , the carpet would eat anything and the ball would struggle with rats snd go off his food regular . One day when we were cleaning out the tanks I put the ball python into the big viv to see how it would react and I was amazed at the transformation he moved about like a garter even climbed up onto the carpets perch so I tried a day old chick and he pounced like a rattlesnake , I ditched the tub and never looked back . Thank god there are people trying to drag the hobby into the 21st century , remember breeders are trying to get snakes up to weight fast so thay can breed them instead of mimicking wild feeding where the only time they would get regular meals is if they raid chicken coups

Well done!

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

thank you for this information. Im on week two with my first python :)

Good news is that many educational content creators are starting to look into ball python behavior and give solutions for both simple rack keeping style and the complex terrarium keeping style. I chose to keep only one ball python as my first and only pet and give him as much enrichment as I can. It’s magical to see the lil dude learning how to climb and even eat like a tree python. And it’s extremely fulfilling to see him to be curious and trying to get into every no-no zone in my apartment during his monitored roaming time 😂 Yes he does refuse a meal or two, and yes he did do those dancy dances in front of the glass door during my work hour to beg for outside. It’s inconvenient for sure, but that’s what you will encounter when keeping a pet.

@ooopsyyep3215

26 күн бұрын

To add to the previous comment: choosing a snake based on temperament is the best choice I’ve made. I walked into a reptile store that’s about to shut down and the owner was trying to sell his overpriced blue eye Lucy to me. I held her but she was a solid ball all the time. I then walked around the aisles for a few times and found a normal lil dude who’s pushing the lid and doing those long tongue flicks. I literally locked eyes with him and he was trying to reach me. I held him and he was busy but relaxed. He’s now in a well-enriched terrarium, has a cat tree and a bunch of plushy toy-hides. I do not want to have another one in the near future unless I get a larger apartment to have a dedicated snake room.

This was amazing to watch! I have learned so much and cannot wait to start working with my babies

Excellent interview! She brought up so many points i hadn't thought of. Thank you!

I have 2 spider morphs that went undiagnosed until I got them. When asking the breeder they acted confused by this. I honestly think that the neglect of behavior issues happens because of the inherent barriers that a rack provides. On top of that, the opinion “I haven’t seen or noticed strange behavior”gets reinforced and 80% of breeders tend to follow this procedure. If you have large collections or breeding facilities, you cant possibly have the time to understand these animals on an individual basis other than this snake is fighty or this snake is flighty

This was very informative, I love to learn more about researchers point of view.

Thank you so much for this video! I have never heard any of these neurological information and I am a biologist.....

This may be stating the obvious, but listening to Lori talk about snakes changing environments, and specifically the stress of moving from a complex environment into a more simplistic one... I can't help but think about wild caught animals and the dramatic reduction in both complexity and agency in its environment when it's brought into captive management.

All snakes climb. YUP!

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Yup!

This was very informative, I love to learn more about researcher point of view.

Fantastic!

@ReptilesandResearch

Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so ☺️

First time Ball Python keeper here (I've kept several healthy colubrid snakes before)... I decided to start with a full-size enclosure so that I won't have to keep upsizing as my snake grows. I ended up getting a beautiful female, about 1.5 years old, 500 grams... She seems to be doing well, I provided 3 hides, lots of fake plants and vines, and some climbable structures... In the 3 weeks I've had her I saw that she uses all of it. Now I specifically know what to watch for behavior wise. The only advice I had before this video was to keep the enclosure very cluttered for small snakes and remove clutter as the snake grows.

@ReptilesandResearch

Ай бұрын

i just filmed a tutorial on how to do just that! Seems you were way ahead of me!

@MrFishBlood

Ай бұрын

@@ReptilesandResearch I can't wait to see it... I'm sure you have some insights that have escaped me thus far!

Okay where are these tubs shes talking about with the clear front? I tried to Google them and I don't think I found the right thing

I live in Europe and I don't keep reptiles. Seeing these animals in racks and loveless terrariums is terrible. And then to hear these fates is heartbreaking! That snakes don't come out of the boxes for months because they don't know anything else and don't know that they could go out.... sad 😢. When I was little I only saw large snakes in large terrarium rooms in Europe. If someone didn't have the space, then he just didn't keep one. So easy. But now you can see racks and sparse enclosures even with our breeders and "collectors". Unfortunately, that spills over to us. I also don't understand why you keep 6 or 7, or even more snakes in such enclosures instead of just one snake, and allocate enough space for it. This collection frenzy among reptile keepers strikes me as negative! I feel terribly sorry for the royal python. Because the owners make the excuse that they don't move much anyway. Then they stuff these animals into racks where they do nothing more than just exist.... I'm actually against prohibitions of any kind, but reptile keepers have lost such a sense of the needs of these creatures that I'm not sure about prohibitions are not the only solution!?

Best info on KZread, thank you for all your content. Where can I find the podcast?

@ReptilesandResearch

2 ай бұрын

its under the animals at home network

@MrCalifornia0

2 ай бұрын

Thank you

My question is "Does a more simplistic, but more than adequate enclosure setup provide more chances for interaction with you than a big "complete" enclosure with all the furnisshings to stimulate them without you?" I'm asking specifically for a more shy snake. I feel like putting my snake into a tub with a nice deep substrate layer and just a few hides has kind of enabled their fear/escaping behavior. I've only had them a week so far, they are a Mexican black kingsnake, we've had a handful of great interactions, one stellar bonding moment, but he always ends up fleeing by the end. Am i being to pushy? Do y'all think placing MORE things in the enclosure is the answer? We have had an exceptional first target training session, but to get him interested I had to find him in the substrate layer. Here's a perfect example: I saw him out for the first time after feeding yesterday and went to slowly put my hand up to the front of his enclosure and he backed off looking defensive, so I backed off calmly, and he ended up burrowing back into his substrate. 😅

Fun fact: the first pied ball python was found in the wild ;)

Do one on kingsnakesssssss pleaseeeeeeeee

I'm so sad that my new snake that I have adopted and rescued has health problems. I took him to the vet and now twice a day for the next 2 weeks I have to grab them by the head and put eye drops in their eyes and I feel so bad about it I just hope they dont hate me after all is said and done.

The rank system for keeping snakes, is like the American Public School system

i feel like my third eyes wide open... I hope @GreenRoomPythons heard this when it came out, im sure he did but still! A great conversation.

Have you heard about that man that is training ackie monitors to hunt with him using whistle

Hi, I made this change too quick I believe. I have an adult ball python raised in a tub and put her in a simple tub but within a few weeks moved her to a complex environment and she stays hidden almost exclusively in her hide and is going off feed. I am looking for advice on how to re-work this process. Do I put her back into the simplistic tub and re-work the process? Please help.

I’m getting ready to get a ball python and this video is very helpful now I can make sure I don’t rot its brain

@ReptilesandResearch

2 ай бұрын

good luck!

What is that nose rubbing?

Woah that was a lot of information, might have to listen to this a couple of times. Been an aquarium keeper for 25 years, dart frogs for the last 2 and recently my partner bought a ball python. The whole concept of a tub is just weird as hell to me; aquarium fish in multi species tanks with plants, logs, etc and dart frogs I add various plants, clean up insects and then the pythons get a plastic box with a plastic box in it to hide in... seems odd, especially since their native habitats are very interesting. We're exposing our new ball python to a whole world, she does enjoy climbing but is clumsy but I can see why now after realising she probably was raising for the first 6 months in a plastic tub.

I love your content and all you do for these animals, but I started thinking a lot about if it’s ethical to keep royals (and other reptiles) in terrariums at all. I have been breeding and keeping snakes in tubs with enrichment for years,then I went from tubs to naturalistic enclosures. All of my snakes are also allowed to free roam if they want to, but lately I keep thinking that there is no way to keep snakes ethically. I mean they would never live with us in a confined space if they had a choice . They will probably never be domesticated like cats or dogs , even if they can learn and reproduce that doesn’t mean they thrive ?I’m sorry for sounding so negative, I really love keeping my snakes, it’s just some thoughts that came creeping up lately, especially since hearing the German marine biologist and conservationist Marc Lehmans take on keeping animals as pets. I hope this thoughts will disappear, your content definitely makes me feel better about keeping snakes!

I think racks should be made illegal

People want to feed rats because ball pythons grow faster on rats they have more fat.