How To Time Your Strokes On Deep Shots And Not Be Late (Again)

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You've all heard the phrase "prepare early" to avoid being late on the shot (forehand or backhand usually) but that in fact doesn't work.
The reason why you're late is because you want to see the ball after the bounce and thus you wait with the stroke. So that's why your preparation is also late.
Take a look at some drills here on how to learn to initiate the stroke early even when you don't see the ball yet.

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  • @z4xarhis
    @z4xarhis8 жыл бұрын

    Hands down the best tennis instructor on youtube.

  • @_luisespinosa_
    @_luisespinosa_3 жыл бұрын

    It's just incredible that after so many lessons and years practicing, nobody ever told me this and that's why I've always been late when playing against better players. I always wait for the bounce before I initiate the swing. Actually my arm usually hurts after those games and you also gave us an explanation about that. Thanks so much!

  • @jkuang
    @jkuang7 жыл бұрын

    You are one of the best tennis coaches online. Thank you! Simple and precise. Every single point you made makes perfect sense and can be easily absorbed. Bad practices that previously bothered me can be easily corrected by one or two of your sentences or a simple structured demonstration. You are THAT good!

  • @Jecsen93
    @Jecsen939 жыл бұрын

    Wow, only now do I see the difference and realize the real meaning of 'early preparation'.. Thank you so much!!

  • @xiaohl
    @xiaohl Жыл бұрын

    One of the best videos for beginners

  • @dctrex
    @dctrex9 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic Thomas! Exactly the instruction that I've been looking for. I've been consistently late but no one has ever explained how to handle this problem properly especially the backhand.

  • @GG-sc2pj
    @GG-sc2pj4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I finally realised that bringing the racket simply back even too early wasn't necessary without the combination of initiating the stroke early as well as shifting my usual stroke one fraction earlier, I also always wanted to hit the ball while descending even when facing deep balls, understanding that it has to be the opposite was crucial, I look forward to seeing you on a real court when I'll manage to go to Slovenia

  • @nicks4887
    @nicks48874 жыл бұрын

    After a month of practicing this, I have made material improvements on my ground strokes. Thanks Tomaz.

  • @cvanil17
    @cvanil174 жыл бұрын

    This one lesson has been a complete game changer for my forehand. Thank you so much Tomaz!! you're the best

  • @fobmongrel9925
    @fobmongrel99259 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, coach! I'm now back to playing tennis after a 14 year hiatus, and I notice how often I am late on backhands. It is good to have the idea of preparation in one's mind. I will go hit the wall and am sure this video will have made a difference.

  • @hristovrigazov3150
    @hristovrigazov31509 жыл бұрын

    Really like your somewhat scientific approach to tennis, based on understanding mechanics and psychology sometimes. Keep up the great videos!

  • @jomango1929
    @jomango19299 жыл бұрын

    Very goog analysis... Clear, simple, clever ! You are e very good coach. Thanks a lot.

  • @pacohome1
    @pacohome18 жыл бұрын

    Eureka! great baseline lesson .Ive watched many videos regarding ground strokes and not one ever focused on that aspect

  • @nixonv1
    @nixonv19 жыл бұрын

    Another amazing, well explained video! Thanks so much Thomas for sharing your knowledge with us. I could never understand why I was able to only occasionally hit high deep balls early . Now I know what to do thanks to you. Excited to be even more consistent now when hitting deep balls and those occasional deep heavy topspin balls.

  • @laurencecorray
    @laurencecorray5 жыл бұрын

    Your creativity in drills to hit early on deep shots is brilliant. So easy for students to follow and also learn fast.

  • @zaggernut5054
    @zaggernut50545 жыл бұрын

    You say the same things my coach does, but you also explain very intuitively 'why' I should be doing what you're telling me to do. I find it much easier to follow advice when I understand the reasoning behind it. Thank you.

  • @marcelovoto3536
    @marcelovoto35368 жыл бұрын

    Hi Thomas! This explanation helped me to handle much better with deep balls and improve my early preparation for other balls. Thank's a lot. Congratulations here from Brazil.

  • @Arun-Arasan
    @Arun-Arasan3 жыл бұрын

    So simple yet extremely effective. Thank you coach!

  • @innocent-zone
    @innocent-zone7 жыл бұрын

    My Dear Friend - You are Amazing - Where were you in the 90's. You are the best coach I have witnessed. You make the Word Understanding Make sense. BravoO Coach!!

  • @johannjaffar
    @johannjaffar9 жыл бұрын

    excellent video as usual. I will be trying this!

  • @hyperphantom3313
    @hyperphantom33138 жыл бұрын

    This helps me a lot! From now I will watch where the ball bounces and change my timing according to it. Thank you.

  • @TNToncourt
    @TNToncourt9 жыл бұрын

    Your videos used to be boring but now they are interesting.Thanks.

  • @davspa6
    @davspa68 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tomaz. :-) I never understood why I was always late on fast or deep balls, yet you see the pros, Federer for instance, able to handle any ball.

  • @ayyamperumalgn6070
    @ayyamperumalgn60707 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much.. This simple piece of instruction is very vital for playing faster tennis rallies also stepping stone for taking ball on the rise. I always tended to go to back foot for the deep high balls and ended up hitting ball with the jammed TRex hand but will follow your instruction in the future

  • @rzone7424
    @rzone74244 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Thomas. This video is really very helpful.

  • @MeanLittlePoodles
    @MeanLittlePoodles9 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video. I have never seen the idea of early preparation presented quite this way before. Very informative!

  • @fabiogiovagnorio3654
    @fabiogiovagnorio36546 жыл бұрын

    Best instructor ever!!!

  • @nightowldickson
    @nightowldickson7 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Thomas - this is one problem that I have when faced with flat and deep balls with pace

  • @abdallabasionymd
    @abdallabasionymd4 жыл бұрын

    you are the best tennis instructor that ever stood infront of a camera

  • @petergribbin8240
    @petergribbin82408 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Thomas always gets me this one, can't wait to try and hopefully remove those leaning back, jerky weak shots. Pete

  • @NamesAreRandom
    @NamesAreRandom3 жыл бұрын

    Very useful, I always struggle with deep balls on my forehand. What you say is pretty logical really if you give it some thought but it seems I never did.

  • @andresa.3815
    @andresa.38157 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your advice. I always have that problem with my forehand.

  • @lowgascostsorangeman2688
    @lowgascostsorangeman26888 жыл бұрын

    Very good coach...you're one of the best.

  • @ducockk
    @ducockk9 жыл бұрын

    The difficulty is to predict how early should you start your swing, e.g. predict whether it's a short ball or long ball before the bounce. Is there any way to improve this prediction?

  • @titovasss
    @titovasss5 жыл бұрын

    IT is all good points and seems doable for "planned" simple balls - like in the video. For situation when you get different depth, spin and speed ball the question is HOW TO BALANCE between, 1. Approaching (running) to the ball, 2. Adjusting to the ball (small steps), 3. Initiate the swing. We always start with 1. but if we try to "be early" - we might start 3. (initiate swing) too early and latter be forced to do 2. (Adjustment - Readjustment) to the ball. In such case it will be tricky and difficult to maintain balance with closed stance and raquet at the back, that is when we can become LATE with the swing. IT would be very interesting to hear your Mr. Thomas insight how to balance between 2. Adjustment to the ball and 3. Swing initiation or in case we have 2 > 3 > 2 situation where we get late and struggle with timing and stance balance. Thank you.

  • @peaceandlove5465
    @peaceandlove54657 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting this! Very helpful!

  • @aquahot
    @aquahot9 жыл бұрын

    This video is really helpful. Thanks!

  • @hoanphung8511
    @hoanphung85117 жыл бұрын

    great instruction! exactly what I am looking for

  • @matthew4506
    @matthew45065 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid and concept!!! Thankyou!

  • @crisluspo7716
    @crisluspo77169 жыл бұрын

    What a great video! Thank you. It's always great to relearn things and keep improving. Also, is it possible to see a video about two-handed backhands in the same topic? I'm a 4.0 player but my backhand has a weak technique. It's obvious when someone gets me with a high-bouncing topspin or deep shots.

  • @tennisman2k
    @tennisman2k9 жыл бұрын

    always good instructions ,and explaination

  • @Lutherman_edc
    @Lutherman_edc7 жыл бұрын

    THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED THANK YOU SOO MUCH SIR :D

  • @gillv7659
    @gillv76599 жыл бұрын

    Good understanding of contact point well done.

  • @atomarchio
    @atomarchio8 жыл бұрын

    This is just outstanding!

  • @jaysfather1
    @jaysfather19 жыл бұрын

    Excllent tip !!! Thank you.

  • @johnnytang1
    @johnnytang15 жыл бұрын

    Thank You, will give it a try !

  • @suky108
    @suky1089 жыл бұрын

    great lesson coach!

  • @modestlim324
    @modestlim324 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent tip

  • @LaBestia2156
    @LaBestia21563 жыл бұрын

    Great lesson, thank you.

  • @tylerburger7485
    @tylerburger74859 жыл бұрын

    dang it, why didn't I know this years ago.. good lesson!

  • @oscarrobayo7558
    @oscarrobayo75588 жыл бұрын

    Hi.... ur material its amazing, thanks by ur guide...... congratulations by excellent job!!!

  • @rohit2512ddun
    @rohit2512ddun3 жыл бұрын

    This is very good video and explanation -- I think this applies to taking ball on the rise as we can only do that if we initiate stroke early...So what should be the trigger point to initiate stroke as the ball crosses net ?

  • @rohitcot4498
    @rohitcot44989 жыл бұрын

    wow thanks so much, great video. Also I have a question about serves so every time I serve, halftime I don't make it in the box and it goes right over the box, how do I fix that.

  • @fabisvdm
    @fabisvdm9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the nice video. Could you give some advice on how actually read the oncoming ball earlier? I guess that if you know how to read the ball better it wil help to get prepared for the next shot just in time.

  • @igorglogovac1414
    @igorglogovac14144 жыл бұрын

    Love it! Thanks mate.

  • @GermanShephard123
    @GermanShephard1233 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! Is there anyway you can please do a video on shoulder internal rotation during the forehand? How and when does the shoulder internally rotate on a forehand stroke?

  • @krakou2
    @krakou29 жыл бұрын

    excellent concept, and presentation. I have a few questions : after the serve how can i recognise if i must prepare early since i just landed from my serve? does that concept fits a general early prep for passing shots, especially indoor? On the other hand does that mean i have to see the ball and start late on a short ball or pusher's limp second serve? thanks

  • @MinhLe1711
    @MinhLe17119 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great video! A question: Will it be better then if you always start your swing early? A friend of mine does this and his strokes are very consistent. Now I understand why.

  • @tennfunn6332
    @tennfunn63323 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful! I have done similar drills with balls fed as 'lobs' and I had to set up and begin swinging early. Is there ever a situation where you would back up to give yourself more time?

  • @theobeulakker3492
    @theobeulakker34929 жыл бұрын

    I can only say very well explained ! one of the things that happens to me, to many times To Late to late hitting the ball , awkward, cause I wait to long.... good video's thx

  • @asarahma7314
    @asarahma73143 жыл бұрын

    Great video.. Tq coach

  • @RF20TB12
    @RF20TB125 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the lesson. I watched this two years ago and practiced with a ball machine. It worked perfectly for me. I remember I was so consistent such that I won 11 points in a row. Then I stopped playing due to the new born. Now I start playing regularly and got the same trouble again. Will practice to see how it will work this time

  • @yoshikay8787

    @yoshikay8787

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hailong Xiao Does ball machine practice improve ground strokes better than a hitting partner?

  • @twinwankel

    @twinwankel

    5 жыл бұрын

    I used this video a couple of years ago as well and it helped me at the time. However, as I advanced in skill level and played stronger opponents, I noticed this technique is not good for heavy paced shots. You either will miss hit it or hit a weak shot. You cannot start the swing in advance like that. And also, I never see pros do this. Instead, you need to wait for ball come off the ground and hit it with a strong shortened swing. It's like a return of serve technique. Of course, if you don't play at an advance level, you can just ignore the advice.

  • @twinwankel

    @twinwankel

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@yoshikay8787 I don't think anything replaces a hitting partner because you can't read the stroke with a machine. You need to anticipate the pace and direction of the shot as early as possible. This is key if you don't want to be late or preparing to hit on the rise.

  • @RF20TB12

    @RF20TB12

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yoshikay8787 with the ball machine, I could stand at the half part of the court so that I had to hit on the rise repeatedly to practice not late

  • @carlosalarcon2737
    @carlosalarcon27379 жыл бұрын

    Great video..thanks ! Cheers

  • @ScottySmith1957
    @ScottySmith19574 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the importance of hitting the ball in this way is overlooked grotesquely. If you're playing someone who has played tennis more than 1 time in their life, you're going to receive balls deep, relative to where you are on the court ALL the time. Especially if you're playing in front of the base line. Great instruction and lesson to learn here. So important :O

  • @RickMartinYouTube
    @RickMartinYouTube9 жыл бұрын

    Happens to me all the time w/ a deep ball - I'm late and jammed. Thanks for the instruction - I will try to incorporate next time out.

  • @m3toz4
    @m3toz49 жыл бұрын

    great video; however for ball that coming not too deep, but very fast pace at you then what is your reference point to start the swing?

  • @ajayreddy8732
    @ajayreddy87322 жыл бұрын

    Great coach

  • @ibrahim8230
    @ibrahim82309 жыл бұрын

    excellent tips thanks .

  • @diamondjirui
    @diamondjirui4 жыл бұрын

    You are not one of the best coaches online. You are the best!

  • @chenggangwang6706
    @chenggangwang67068 жыл бұрын

    Good lesson! I wonder if a better solution for deep ball is to move back as soon as you expect ball is deep ? Do you plan to offer a footwork lesson about how to move backward efficiently for fast/deep balls?

  • @sheru-vi2ch
    @sheru-vi2ch9 жыл бұрын

    I am impressed.

  • @benjaminmiranda4509
    @benjaminmiranda45093 жыл бұрын

    For me, inorder not to be late in handling deep ball is to rely on the ball ground impact sound and the ball racket impact sound. The time interval between the two sounds should be shorten to gain perfect timing of striking the ball while on the rise.

  • @vincenzocasamentotumeo6595
    @vincenzocasamentotumeo65955 жыл бұрын

    Valuable video

  • @DanProvenzano
    @DanProvenzano5 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I do love FeelTennis. However, I think it's mislabeled "ball landing deep" and "ball landing short" at 11:10. You can see the ball trajectories.

  • @arthur100492
    @arthur1004929 жыл бұрын

    good concept. The other way to solve this problem. I initiate my stroke when ball fly over the service line and ignore bounce

  • @joolm4976
    @joolm49764 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant.

  • @hocean4306
    @hocean43063 жыл бұрын

    i have encountered a bottle neck in playing tennis, and one of the biggest problem is that i dont how to react to deep balls. this annoys me. thanks for the tips and instructions, they are really helpful! thanks

  • @Shankar-Bhaskar
    @Shankar-Bhaskar9 жыл бұрын

    Good video

  • @marcelocoip7275
    @marcelocoip72752 жыл бұрын

    I got confused at the end of the video: on the left image you claim that the ball is landed deep, but that ball is coming down, and on the right image (tagged short) the ball is coming up. I think it's the other way around. Also I don't understand why to start earlier the swing when the ball come deep when your reference system is hitting time. (I perfectly understand why to start earlier if we take the bounce as the reference). Making some implications regarding the bounce of the ball, I'd be inclined to think that the player only need the horizontal position of the ball to reference the start time of his/her swing.

  • @bluewaterhorizon
    @bluewaterhorizon5 жыл бұрын

    I sometimes be too early on the backhand side. Any suggestions?

  • @JonkinRK
    @JonkinRK4 жыл бұрын

    Can I ask with what grip you are playing with? Eastern? Modified eastern (between eastern/SW)? Or SW? :D

  • @geepeeone
    @geepeeone9 жыл бұрын

    Just wow!

  • @Ignozi
    @Ignozi9 жыл бұрын

    Hm, but what about movement? Wouldn't it also be smart to move back or position better if you see a deep ball coming while also starting the swing earlier? Thanks.

  • @popaandrei5365

    @popaandrei5365

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Ignozi Some time is possible some times is not

  • @1ajdelacruz
    @1ajdelacruz2 жыл бұрын

    brilliant

  • @gogoback-cb6sz
    @gogoback-cb6sz9 жыл бұрын

    i like your videos:)

  • @tennisun4382
    @tennisun43825 жыл бұрын

    really important stuff and well done. huge congrats. the only thing is Tomaz that you end this video like a soap opera, with another complication on the horizon. you say; you have to calculate when the ball will come etc - but how do we calculate or gauge? small matter, inni? hope that episode comes soon, or maybe it's already out. anyhow, you talk about things other guys don't dare touch...

  • @Sargeantisthegoat
    @Sargeantisthegoat4 жыл бұрын

    Theoritically, early initiate the stroke help u hit the fast and deep ball but in reality u need to wait and see the ball coming then initiate the stroke later

  • @hotmilkritata
    @hotmilkritata2 жыл бұрын

    initiate before the ball bounce!

  • @LubaLuba1
    @LubaLuba17 жыл бұрын

    Sasha only thrown on ballot too late or long for your example anyway the adjust should be you moving back to hit a better return because the risk is to high if you miss the ball

  • @MLStupid
    @MLStupid8 жыл бұрын

    how can u tell

  • @michaelobell7032
    @michaelobell70323 жыл бұрын

    Nobody comes close to your knowledge of tennis and biomechanics. Best instructor

  • @EXDRA100
    @EXDRA1009 жыл бұрын

    hitting the ball on the rise

  • @rahulat85
    @rahulat857 жыл бұрын

    Sasha is famous. Thank you Sasha :P

  • @kevintravelsgram
    @kevintravelsgram6 жыл бұрын

    Gavin Belson?

  • @JiraiyaSama86
    @JiraiyaSama869 жыл бұрын

    From what i see, i think the emphasis should actually be on footwork first- getting that first step and the feet in the right position first.

  • @joshuaman01
    @joshuaman019 жыл бұрын

    Cool. Vamos Tomaz! Haha.

  • @talesara74
    @talesara744 жыл бұрын

    As a player improves his game this should happen to him naturally and if its not happening naturally than his basic techique might be wrong but ok he has a channel and needs to create some contents!

  • @Chow2323
    @Chow23235 жыл бұрын

    I thought only federer could handle deep balls like that

  • @Vinceyu-180
    @Vinceyu-1809 жыл бұрын

    is this basically on the rise?

  • @acrididi
    @acrididi Жыл бұрын

    Your student's left arm is completely dead on the side during the stroke

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