How to tell apart Douglas Fir and White fir (even without cones!)

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I made this video about how to tell apart Pseudotsuga menziesii (the Douglas fir or Rocky Mountain Douglas fir) and Abies concolor, the White fir. These are two of the most challenging conifers in the Rocky Mountain region for newcomers to tell apart. Importantly I also discuss how to tell the two apart even without looking at the cones of the Douglas fir, which is normally the best way to tell the two apart. Often though you will find no trees in an area of either species with cones, so it becomes important to look at other species of these two trees for identification.
0:00 - Intro
0:15 - What makes identification difficult
0:58 - using cones for identification
2:31 - Identification without the cones
5:13 - Conclusion

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  • @outdoorztime2923
    @outdoorztime29236 күн бұрын

    Good stuff, period. Having several ways to identify the trees is a great way to confirm accuracy.

  • @Ashitaka-gx2od

    @Ashitaka-gx2od

    5 күн бұрын

    Thank you. I wanted to be as thorough as possible, and cones alone just aren't good enough a lot of the time.

  • @outdoorztime2923

    @outdoorztime2923

    5 күн бұрын

    @@Ashitaka-gx2od I agree. Speaking of cones, I picked up a couple Ponderosa Pine Cones at the Grand Canyon. Do you suppose I could plant and grow some trees from seedlings here in Arkansas? I'm in growing zone 7a.

  • @Ashitaka-gx2od

    @Ashitaka-gx2od

    4 күн бұрын

    Yeah they can definitely survive temperatures lower than that. I don't see any reason they wouldn't grow in Arkansas, but you will have to "stratify" the seeds for them to grow. It's not super complicated, but you will take some time, and they will have to be planted in the spring to give them the best chance of growth. This person explains how they stratified their Ponderosa Seeds and it worked well for them. www.montananaturalist.org/blog-post/propagating-ponderosa-pines/ I'm not sure how much, experience you have growing plants from seed, so just know this process can be critical to these plants success and the process is essentially recreating the conditions these seeds have to undergo in nature before they feel its time to germinate. Until around Autumn just hold onto the cones in a dry area. Let me know if you have any other questions.

  • @outdoorztime2923

    @outdoorztime2923

    4 күн бұрын

    @@Ashitaka-gx2od Sir, you're very informative, and it's much appreciated. Thanks for all the information. I will follow up and decide whether to go that route or just purchase one from the Arbor Day Foundation.

  • @TonchoBluegrass
    @TonchoBluegrass3 ай бұрын

    Hey I appreciate the video, i'm going soon to stay with family that live by a bunch of douglas fir and i'm trying to learn so i can make some douglas fir tea, cheers!

  • @Ashitaka-gx2od

    @Ashitaka-gx2od

    3 ай бұрын

    Sounds lovely. Enjoy the tea!

  • @Karma-fp7ho
    @Karma-fp7ho5 күн бұрын

    Hello, I was wondering if you are positive that the Doug fir is on the right at :38? The bark looks so smooth.

  • @Ashitaka-gx2od

    @Ashitaka-gx2od

    4 күн бұрын

    In my experience that is what I have observed of Douglas Firs, them having smaller more frequent furrows than white fir, but I guess I would need to revisit the two trees to know for sure.

  • @user-pe7tv6cr3r
    @user-pe7tv6cr3r4 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry but this video was way to complex for my thinking not very helpfull not to be rude

  • @Ashitaka-gx2od

    @Ashitaka-gx2od

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the honest feedback, sorry you didn't like or learn much from the video.

  • @user-pe7tv6cr3r

    @user-pe7tv6cr3r

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Ashitaka-gx2od yeah I’m really trying to get familiar with trees around my area and plants just super stressful so I study 40 minutes every night before I go to bed make couple notes go outside for observe for little bit a day . But just figured while I was studying to watch this for me it was too complex and I easily forget have trouble remembering the information overlong term that’s all didn’t mean to be rude and thanks

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