This brings back so many good memories. Those were the days of real work... so happy times
@rty19553 жыл бұрын
I am am emmy award editor and began on 2" video tape a. We used to cut tape back then and we could not see the edit until played back. We had to "develop" the tape to see the frame pulse on the tape so we could cut at each frame. To see the frame pulse we had to use a microscope but at least we always had the sound & picture sync'd all the time What is interesting to new people to edit, back in the days either on film or tape, you could only make CUTS, no dissolves or wipes or anything else. No special effects etc. Notice carefully on older movies when a fade or dissolve happened. In the case of film, you would have to send those frames out to optically mixed together onto another piece of film. After that yoy would have to locate those frames on the "master" and perform a cut right at the point where a dissolve would occur. On screen you would see a generation quality change fir those 48 frames or so, then the quality would improve once the dissolve was complete. Watch for it next time. I still miss quad editing
@IanZainea19907 жыл бұрын
As a self-taught editor/digital compositor in the digital age. I really appreciate seeing this. Thanks dude!
@jaspergunnar1439
2 жыл бұрын
I know Im quite randomly asking but do anybody know a good site to watch new movies online ?
@jasonmiles5029
2 жыл бұрын
@Jasper Gunnar Flixportal :P
@jaspergunnar1439
2 жыл бұрын
@Jason Miles Thanks, I went there and it seems to work :) I really appreciate it!!
@jasonmiles5029
2 жыл бұрын
@Jasper Gunnar happy to help :)
@GordonStainforth2 жыл бұрын
He can't have synched up a huge amount of rushes/dailies, because that is by no means the fastest way of doing it. He opens the gangs much more often than necessary. (As a first and second assistant editor on about half a dozen major movies in the 1980s, at Pinewood and Elstree Studios in London, I had to synch up 1000s of feet, dozens of takes per day, between c.9.00-9.15 am - when the rushes arrived from the labs - and the 10 am viewing of the rushes in the viewing theatre by the director, cast and crew - sometimes a real battle against time)
@IanZainea1990
14 күн бұрын
Would love to hear more!
@IanZainea199014 күн бұрын
Still beautiful to see
@TeeElleElle9 жыл бұрын
Wow! You're amazing! Teach me more!
@asphaltandtacos Жыл бұрын
How much is time involved? I really want to try this. Computers look so boring now.
@ducter20013 жыл бұрын
Gosh... and when the final film appears on screen its all glitch free in picture and sound -amazing but no doubt hard work for an editor!
@mattway8906 Жыл бұрын
I'm setting up a traditional studio..
@chrishopkins3754 жыл бұрын
Hey I see you're using 35 mm magstripe. If you are, there's a great likelihood you use the sound transfer technician to get your original quarter-inch transferred onto that. What studio is still using sound transfer technicians in 2014? I was a sound transfer technician in the early 80s and thought the craft was somewhat obsolete at this point?? Where are you doing this film work I'd like to know?
@carmelolopez16
3 жыл бұрын
If hes at a university film dept, there may be a tech room with equipment to make the transfers
@SoCalGuy-gp2wl3 жыл бұрын
Sure makes me appreciate non-linear editing. :-)
@GilbertTang
2 жыл бұрын
This was/is nonlinear editing. Film was inherently nonlinear, since you could literally cut a frame or series of frames and splice them anywhere without having to undo everything ahead of it first only to reassemble it in sequence. Think being able to take a hangar off a closet rod and place it instantly anywhere else on the rod. Early video, though, was linear. Instead of hangers with hooks, now imagine you had rings that couldn't be removed from the rod without sliding them off one end. In order to move one ring to another position, you'd have to remove all the rings before or after it. Then you'd put back whatever rings you needed before placing the ring in question where you want and adding any others in the sequence as needed.
@barrysmith4094 Жыл бұрын
After the film is edited , and all is said and done, you go to a theather and watch the movie you edited. Pretty cool!!!
@Wang-zs7qm2 жыл бұрын
More teaching please!
@barrysmith4094 Жыл бұрын
I would think you would need more the one editing machine to edit a film? Am i correct?
@robfriedrich282210 ай бұрын
0:32 an inexpensive recording monitor would do a better job.
@patrick_see9 жыл бұрын
hoota toota solo?
@JonathanHancock6 жыл бұрын
What a great hands on video, where do you get a synchronizer with the sound head?
@pinoy0978234
6 жыл бұрын
jonathan Hancock they can easily be found on ebay nowadays for not too much money
@JonathanHancock
6 жыл бұрын
I have the space for a steenbeck but not the location
@pinoy0978234
6 жыл бұрын
jonathan Hancock what do u mean?
@JonathanHancock
6 жыл бұрын
pinoy0978234 Do I have to trade off the expensive exotic locationWith promising opportunity for the equipmentAnd the vastness of cheap space in a rural area. Understand it’s just the synchronizer, that I am probably overreacting. Who taught you all the stuff are you self-taught as well? I meant to ask a different question that I did not state.
@JonathanHancock
6 жыл бұрын
I publicly apologize
@incargeek6 жыл бұрын
I didnt know the audio was on a separate roll. Im sure I have seen audio tracks on the film strip too..
@DaCarnival
4 жыл бұрын
I think that's just for the release print (or was, way back when).
@carmelolopez16
3 жыл бұрын
@@DaCarnival i may be incorrect but I think some film labs can (or atleast used to offer the option) sync your location sound to your dailies right onto the work print. Cost more though
@JonathanHancock6 жыл бұрын
Really all I was saying is I wish I had a Steenback have you ever edited on one?
@JonathanHancock
6 жыл бұрын
Then I was excited that you actually replied that another person cared about Film as much as I did
@losangeleskingsfan153 жыл бұрын
Damn, if it takes this long just to sync one take, imagine working on a feature length film. No wonder the industry has moved on digital.
@marctronixx
3 жыл бұрын
to be fair the instructor here was taking his time to show certain things for the audience. in reality the process is much faster. loading mags is also a lost art - I would be in amazement to watch loaders on set with a loading tent stuffing the mags with film whilst talking about random stuff unrelated to the task at hand. hats off to the instructor here.
@masterandservant8021 Жыл бұрын
It is such a dreadful way to synchronize film
@77Pinoyako
Жыл бұрын
Its actually a lot of fun
@masterandservant8021
Жыл бұрын
@@77Pinoyako a fun way of making things the wrong way
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This brings back so many good memories. Those were the days of real work... so happy times
I am am emmy award editor and began on 2" video tape a. We used to cut tape back then and we could not see the edit until played back. We had to "develop" the tape to see the frame pulse on the tape so we could cut at each frame. To see the frame pulse we had to use a microscope but at least we always had the sound & picture sync'd all the time What is interesting to new people to edit, back in the days either on film or tape, you could only make CUTS, no dissolves or wipes or anything else. No special effects etc. Notice carefully on older movies when a fade or dissolve happened. In the case of film, you would have to send those frames out to optically mixed together onto another piece of film. After that yoy would have to locate those frames on the "master" and perform a cut right at the point where a dissolve would occur. On screen you would see a generation quality change fir those 48 frames or so, then the quality would improve once the dissolve was complete. Watch for it next time. I still miss quad editing
As a self-taught editor/digital compositor in the digital age. I really appreciate seeing this. Thanks dude!
@jaspergunnar1439
2 жыл бұрын
I know Im quite randomly asking but do anybody know a good site to watch new movies online ?
@jasonmiles5029
2 жыл бұрын
@Jasper Gunnar Flixportal :P
@jaspergunnar1439
2 жыл бұрын
@Jason Miles Thanks, I went there and it seems to work :) I really appreciate it!!
@jasonmiles5029
2 жыл бұрын
@Jasper Gunnar happy to help :)
He can't have synched up a huge amount of rushes/dailies, because that is by no means the fastest way of doing it. He opens the gangs much more often than necessary. (As a first and second assistant editor on about half a dozen major movies in the 1980s, at Pinewood and Elstree Studios in London, I had to synch up 1000s of feet, dozens of takes per day, between c.9.00-9.15 am - when the rushes arrived from the labs - and the 10 am viewing of the rushes in the viewing theatre by the director, cast and crew - sometimes a real battle against time)
@IanZainea1990
14 күн бұрын
Would love to hear more!
Still beautiful to see
Wow! You're amazing! Teach me more!
How much is time involved? I really want to try this. Computers look so boring now.
Gosh... and when the final film appears on screen its all glitch free in picture and sound -amazing but no doubt hard work for an editor!
I'm setting up a traditional studio..
Hey I see you're using 35 mm magstripe. If you are, there's a great likelihood you use the sound transfer technician to get your original quarter-inch transferred onto that. What studio is still using sound transfer technicians in 2014? I was a sound transfer technician in the early 80s and thought the craft was somewhat obsolete at this point?? Where are you doing this film work I'd like to know?
@carmelolopez16
3 жыл бұрын
If hes at a university film dept, there may be a tech room with equipment to make the transfers
Sure makes me appreciate non-linear editing. :-)
@GilbertTang
2 жыл бұрын
This was/is nonlinear editing. Film was inherently nonlinear, since you could literally cut a frame or series of frames and splice them anywhere without having to undo everything ahead of it first only to reassemble it in sequence. Think being able to take a hangar off a closet rod and place it instantly anywhere else on the rod. Early video, though, was linear. Instead of hangers with hooks, now imagine you had rings that couldn't be removed from the rod without sliding them off one end. In order to move one ring to another position, you'd have to remove all the rings before or after it. Then you'd put back whatever rings you needed before placing the ring in question where you want and adding any others in the sequence as needed.
After the film is edited , and all is said and done, you go to a theather and watch the movie you edited. Pretty cool!!!
More teaching please!
I would think you would need more the one editing machine to edit a film? Am i correct?
0:32 an inexpensive recording monitor would do a better job.
hoota toota solo?
What a great hands on video, where do you get a synchronizer with the sound head?
@pinoy0978234
6 жыл бұрын
jonathan Hancock they can easily be found on ebay nowadays for not too much money
@JonathanHancock
6 жыл бұрын
I have the space for a steenbeck but not the location
@pinoy0978234
6 жыл бұрын
jonathan Hancock what do u mean?
@JonathanHancock
6 жыл бұрын
pinoy0978234 Do I have to trade off the expensive exotic locationWith promising opportunity for the equipmentAnd the vastness of cheap space in a rural area. Understand it’s just the synchronizer, that I am probably overreacting. Who taught you all the stuff are you self-taught as well? I meant to ask a different question that I did not state.
@JonathanHancock
6 жыл бұрын
I publicly apologize
I didnt know the audio was on a separate roll. Im sure I have seen audio tracks on the film strip too..
@DaCarnival
4 жыл бұрын
I think that's just for the release print (or was, way back when).
@carmelolopez16
3 жыл бұрын
@@DaCarnival i may be incorrect but I think some film labs can (or atleast used to offer the option) sync your location sound to your dailies right onto the work print. Cost more though
Really all I was saying is I wish I had a Steenback have you ever edited on one?
@JonathanHancock
6 жыл бұрын
Then I was excited that you actually replied that another person cared about Film as much as I did
Damn, if it takes this long just to sync one take, imagine working on a feature length film. No wonder the industry has moved on digital.
@marctronixx
3 жыл бұрын
to be fair the instructor here was taking his time to show certain things for the audience. in reality the process is much faster. loading mags is also a lost art - I would be in amazement to watch loaders on set with a loading tent stuffing the mags with film whilst talking about random stuff unrelated to the task at hand. hats off to the instructor here.
It is such a dreadful way to synchronize film
@77Pinoyako
Жыл бұрын
Its actually a lot of fun
@masterandservant8021
Жыл бұрын
@@77Pinoyako a fun way of making things the wrong way
What a nightmare! Glad film's dead...