Afterthought: Jesse Kraai advises us to stop analysing and stop adding variations exactly when we feel that we understand the position (its themes) sufficiently to be comfortable playing it. This is simple, practical, and wise-- and I cannot say that I've ever heard it before.

The purpose of difficult moves in Chessable is not to repeat them even more, it is too analyze them and fix understanding problems. Because you fail them due to a lack of understanding

@RobBCactive

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed actually analysing the position and discovering the reasons behind the course move is to reduce future studying. If you repeatedly train habits you repeat mistakes without the vicious circle breaker that difficult moves draws attention to.

I'm sad I found this amazing channel so late. Great content!!

I've been using chessable for years, and I never knew that I could import a Lichess study as a chessable trainable book! THANKS!

I have enjoyed and used chessable from its inception. While I own a lot of great courses on chessable, it is the course that I have created for myself that I find the most valuable. I use courses authored by strong players as a reference rather than rote learning. I will set up a FEN position that I am trying to learn about and search for that position in my courses to see what stronger players recommend - and then decide how I will approach that position in the future. Something I do a bit different than this video shows is that I set my personal course type to “Tactics” and after I import my PGN variations, I go through those newly imported variations and set two key moves ... one key move is where I want the “tactic” to start and the other at the end of the important moves to note -- usually but not always at the end of the imported variation(s). This way I am not practicing an opening by rote from move one and I am not limiting my chessable study to openings. Instead, I am presented an opening, middlegame, or endgame position that caused me some sort of grief in an actual game. So, I am practicing how to negotiate obstacles I failed to overcome in my own games. I hope this long reply is clear. I think this method works great. I love the dojo and I love chessable to improve my game.

Latte gets the credit because the Boomer GM forgot that I taught him all about Chessable over a year ago :P

@crawfb5

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe when Jesse has to relearn it all again you can get credit. 🙂

Please more of that!

Awesome video and content as a thank you got your course

Love it! Chessslate! Cool kid!! And.... I will try it as I play Quid constantly and still don't know it well.!

Great video Jesse! I recently started doing this myself. Its way more useful to create your own file than going strictly off a chessable course that has way too many side variations and goes to an impractical level of depth.

@yesyoeable

2 жыл бұрын

and it's a lot cheaper (:

Mostly correct. However, Stockfish doesn't like bishops. It values whatever piece is most necessary and will absolutely trade a bishop for knight if the position needs it. Many openings a bishop trade for a knight is thematic and needs to be done. Of course in an open endgame Stockfish probably won't trade a bishop for a knight but that's automatic

Wait, I have to worry about this kind of opening prep in the under 1200 section too?!

@peterpupe8352

2 жыл бұрын

Not really, because they blunder the advantage away. Else theyd be rated higher. I prefer not studying too much openings because i feel starting midgame with a disadvantage helps me getting better at calc and patterns. I can do the studying later when i reach a plateau

This was very timely for me since I've been thinking about how to handle openings (I've basically been doing nothing specifically on openings for the past few months). I plan to try this process over the holiday break, and use my chessable files in the days just prior to my next tourney. Thanks for this idea!

Ohk 2022 then I'll watch this next year

For my own files I’ve been using Lichess exclusively and if I want to train variations I use the “Interactive Lesson” feature or I can finish the game vs a human-like computer (like Maya). Is there any benefit to Chessable in this regard? Maybe it’s the specs repetition. But as Jesse notes, he thinks that’s not a priority.

This was good for showing how to import an opening line into Chessable. Is there a similar video showing how use ChessBase to create the file to be imported into Chessable? Thanks.

I published an invincible repertoire that forces a draw from move one.

Nice beanie

Probably the next version of Chessbase will have a spaced repetition type training feature.

isnt replay training option the same thing?

Have you used Bookup/Chess Openings Wizard (COW)? I'm debating which way would be better, between Chessable and COW. I think the idea would be similar to import PGNs you've created on your database to COW or Chessable. Will need to test and compare.

@ChessDojo

2 жыл бұрын

no experience, let us know!

Nobody: Subtitles at 7:07 : chessaporn btw I loved the video

Jesse looks like 90s Ghostface lol

Where'd you get that smurf hat though? I want one!

This may scare Jesse but I can memorise games, so I find it easier to learn a deep forcing line than positions with many transpositions. When I learnt, even casual players knew Closed Ruy to the tabiya position. Now people actually play worse because they're confused, I have players trying the Marshall idea before c3 or getting their Bc5 trapped due to natural inaccuracies. In my experience there's no reason not to learn the forcing line, when opponents deviate I take time even in blitz as it's a critical moment.

Anyone have thoughts about Chess Position Trainer?

I am wondering if Chessbase 17 now does the Chessable element via ‘replay training’.

I use lichess studies then import to chessable to quiz but I annotate so extensively that I am rarely forgetting when I get to the chessable phase. I am learning really well this way but it’s slow. I have spent almost a month on Sicilian Rossolimo as black.

@XxdeathclawslayerxX

2 жыл бұрын

As someone learning Sicilian as well, good luck my friend!

@marcofrey2903

Жыл бұрын

Have you tried Lichess interactive lesson feature. It’s the same thing but with better UI and you don’t have to import.

@zwebzz9685

Жыл бұрын

@@marcofrey2903 I mostly use listudy now

Cavity Search!!!

I get your points about not going too deeply and not going for hundreds of sidelines, but if I'm not using a course of some kind, how do I pick my lines in the first place? Secondly, as a lower-rated player, my opponents will be playing all kinds of moves anyway so aren't I inevitably going to be seeing lots of sidelines anyway?

@cpf2566

2 жыл бұрын

Click through the moves in a database of master games (if you don't have chessbase try openingtree or lichess), see what other people play, the winrate in each line and what kind of positions they lead to. Look through games in key variations and see how they differ from each other after the opening. With some judicious engine analysis to help you choose between lines, examine less commonly played moves and understand the reasons behind them. Doing it yourself really helps with retention and understanding. This way there's a far better chance of ending up in the kind of position you're comfortable playing, and perhaps even understanding it, than from sifting through endless numbing variations - probably decades of someone elses analysis - in a "course." Of course there's lots of good knowledge available from books/courses...but the key is to use it as a starting point for this kind of study; to engage with it actively, not just memorise by rote.

If Stockfish puts more weight on space and on Bishops than humans can apply in practice, is there another engine that produces more understandable evaluations? Should non-GMs go back to Rybka 4 and its more conservative evaluations?

This is good, I think, but it's all about Chessbase and other computer programs, and I don't use computer programs, so I didn't really understand it. Is there any way to do some sort of effective harm minimization for the openings without using programs?

@ChessDojo

2 жыл бұрын

I think if you wanted to go full wooden pieces, you could just review your games and use sound principles. Not a bad way.

@davidblue819

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChessDojo "I think if you wanted to go full wooden pieces..." Yes, exactly. :) "you could just review your games and use sound principles. Not a bad way." OK, thanks.

Lol at your face being half visible haha

Great advice from the cat in a hat.

Your coach is nine? Wow! What does a nine-year-old teach a GM?

@ChessDojo

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

The second you are "out of book" you are lost. People study openings too little not too much. Fischer was Fischer because he outbooked everyone.