How to Start an Astra Militarum Army -Beginner's Guide to Collecting Imperial Guard in Warhammer 40K

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0:00 Intro
0:51 Why Collect Imperial Guard
5:58 Planning an Army
8:46 First Purchases
11:12 Buying 40K Miniatures
12:38 Combat Patrol Astra Militarum
14:06 Other Discount Box Sets
15:58 Building First Models
17:35 Expanding the Army
19:37 One Army List Idea
21:00 Outro

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  • @chrislopezx1884
    @chrislopezx1884 Жыл бұрын

    First you gotta accept the fact that you will be in debt for the rest of your life

  • @F_N_Inquisitor

    @F_N_Inquisitor

    Жыл бұрын

    So what'll change exactly?

  • @Surtur04

    @Surtur04

    Жыл бұрын

    And your pile of shame will be ever growing

  • @boutinpowered8373

    @boutinpowered8373

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Surtur04 Only if you want tanks. If you just want an Infantry army post New Codex; then 12xKrieg, 6xScion, 3xKasrkin, then you're done aside from Officers. No more 300+ infantry. :(

  • @xprototypegaming922

    @xprototypegaming922

    Жыл бұрын

    Or you could buy proxy’s or getting a 3D printer

  • @noyl-ye3xb

    @noyl-ye3xb

    Жыл бұрын

    Why start such kind a hobby when already in debt? Start to work on getting more money first 😎. After that buy smart and you won’t be in debt…

  • @homelessperson5455
    @homelessperson5455 Жыл бұрын

    Best thing about guard is that since they're all normal army men, they can be proxied easily with non GW minis.

  • @PrimordialNightmare

    @PrimordialNightmare

    6 ай бұрын

    Planning on doing a custom regiment inspired by 17th century uniforms, so I did get myself som 30 Years war infantry and some cannons from warlord games and a couple of bits sprues off EBay.

  • @watts18269

    @watts18269

    6 ай бұрын

    Finished my childhood catachan and praetorian armies this year all with proxies that are superior to the originals and cost about 1/16 of the price 👌🏻

  • @mjhsinclair
    @mjhsinclair Жыл бұрын

    I think it’s worth mentioning the Peachy (Painting Phase) video about lightly customising Cadians to be other regiments. It’s pretty clever and is an option if people want up to date GW models and - say - Tallarn without major modelling.

  • @clanmacmillan4483

    @clanmacmillan4483

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw a video of a really easy tallarn conversion, mordian iron guard too

  • @stormhawkdude

    @stormhawkdude

    Жыл бұрын

    How hard for say Vostroyan's?

  • @squarepusher13z

    @squarepusher13z

    11 ай бұрын

    Could you post a link? I love IG but I have no interest in Cadians, Kreig or Scions. I like normal people fighting the horrors of the universe. Dudes who have trained to fight since birth are just shitty space marines.

  • @joshuacollins5860
    @joshuacollins5860 Жыл бұрын

    The Start Collecting: Astra Militarum was how I got started, turned the Leman Russ into a Tank commander with Gatekeeper then added a Demolisher. And if you have two tanks, you need some screening units, so got a Sentinel, then Bullgryn, more infantry and then another Sentinel.... Next thing you know, you're yelling "FOR THE EMPEROR" and fixing your bayonets for a charge against a Necron Overlord in melee.

  • @BrotherVoidBomber
    @BrotherVoidBomber Жыл бұрын

    Tip:If you don't like how Cadia looks and your just a hobbyist/crusadeonly/Causal player you'll be able to find cheaper models of every time on esty or 3rd party. If you really want to be cheap you can find some sellers selling 10x models for 20-30 a pack. That, or get little green solider and base them up.

  • @kdhlkjhdlk

    @kdhlkjhdlk

    Жыл бұрын

    Cadia is sooo ugly.

  • @vostyok6030

    @vostyok6030

    Жыл бұрын

    This. The truest best way to start an Astra Militarum army is to get on Anvil Industries or Etsy and shop around until you are hitting maybe 1-2 bucks per figure. Even going full Mechanized, paying retail price for a GW guard army will be way over budget in any way that people would consider sane.

  • @guzwarsmith9390

    @guzwarsmith9390

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vostyok6030 What shops would do a buck a model?

  • @vostyok6030

    @vostyok6030

    Жыл бұрын

    @@guzwarsmith9390 Wargames Atlantic. I got a whole box of 24 not-Krieg for 24 buckaroos. Though your milleage may vary for location. Still, add a few spare parts from your bits box (mine has a very nice meltagun conversion in one of the squads) and they look pretty damn good.

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 Жыл бұрын

    I believe it starts with deciding which of your organs you don't need.

  • @scumbaggaming9418
    @scumbaggaming941811 ай бұрын

    Having a 3D printer and playing Imperial Guard is great So many people have made models for the tanks that you can just have as many Russes or Basilisks or Chimeras as you want (I've printed 2 Russes and a third and fourth are on the way) Baneblades might be harder to find, though

  • @BurnByMoonlight
    @BurnByMoonlight Жыл бұрын

    Step 1. Buy the combat patrol. Step 2. Fill out with Baneblade and Leman Russes. Also a squad of Kasrkin.

  • @AAhmou

    @AAhmou

    Жыл бұрын

    Step 3: realize that army list is unlikely to be viable by 10th edition (outside of casual games).

  • @thevoxdeus

    @thevoxdeus

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@user-gp8tt8kk3n If any Codex is likely to be valid at the start of 10th, Astra Militarum is among the most likely, since it just came out.

  • @OmnisKorrecta

    @OmnisKorrecta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thevoxdeus The rumours are that 10th will be a hard reset and they will be doing indexes for every faction to hold them over until they get their codex

  • @jomonkey2758
    @jomonkey2758 Жыл бұрын

    So, if I can suggest something, although you are gonna be playing with older sculpts, the genestealer brood brother team is a good deal. You get a unit of soldiers and a heavy weapons team for cheaper than it would be to be to buy them. So 3 unit of brood brothers will get you 30 infantry and 3 heavy weapons teams, cheaper than buying the current stuff

  • @warhound8496

    @warhound8496

    Жыл бұрын

    But what about their faces, how do I make them look like humans ?

  • @davidbarry5527

    @davidbarry5527

    Жыл бұрын

    eBay probably best bet for heads

  • @Bloodaegisx

    @Bloodaegisx

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually not an issue with the kit since the brood brother heads are on an individual sprue if gw’s website is correct. The only real issue is needing to buy the heavy weapon team bases separate since they changed base size.

  • @MrUltimategamer44

    @MrUltimategamer44

    Жыл бұрын

    @@warhound8496 the kit comes with the standard old cadian shock troops sprue. Default human heads are on the sprue. The alien genestealer heads you see on the box is actually an included genestealer upgrade spruce that comes in the box. So you’ll be able to use human heads from the standard sprue then have some genestealer bits sitting around for kitbsdhing or maybe basing materials If you want a slain decapitated genestealer on your base.

  • @frankloun2496

    @frankloun2496

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BloodaegisxI’m pretty sure old HWT’s aren’t illegal due to base size

  • @solowingborders3239
    @solowingborders3239 Жыл бұрын

    I'm Mechanised Infantry Krieg. My spine (which is in place of my real one I had to sell) is: 3x Leman Russ (1x Executioner w/ tank commander, 2x Vanquishers) 3x Chimera 3x Krieg Infantry sections That's my spine, I add say Bombasts, Basilisks, Sentinels depending on needs though there is always some form of artillery. I keep a Shadowsword for special occasions.

  • @siac888
    @siac888 Жыл бұрын

    How to start Guard Army: Step 1: Work very much so you can pay for all the models you need Step 2: Have no time to play

  • @danstrickland8908
    @danstrickland8908 Жыл бұрын

    Bought the Cadia Stands box as my initial starting point to getting back into 40K (stopped collecting shortly after 3E came out). Fast forward two months, and 3x Cadia stands boxes, 3x Leman Russ, 2x Chimeras, 2x HW squads, 2x Krieg kits, 1 kitbashed squad, a box of Kasrkin, a Commissar and a cadian HQ kitbashed into advisors later, and I am on the threshold of being able to field a combat patrol….

  • @nicholaskovach2072

    @nicholaskovach2072

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m coming back too from 3e… I thought about IG, but cost is keeping me out of them and genestealer cults. So necron it is

  • @DasVadderr
    @DasVadderr Жыл бұрын

    Starting a guard army was quite easy a few years ago. Battleforce with three Russes, a Chimera, heavy weapons teams and a command squad. Add the start collecting and you had a great start. For your infantry, there was a kit for 8 bucks with 5 standard Cadians. I now have four Russes, two Wyverns/Hydras, a Chimera, a Valkyrie and a Baneblade... a kitbashed Primaris Psyker, a few Commissars. But I really don´t like Cadians and Catachans, so I only have the two Cadian squads that were somewhere in these boxes. Since GW refuses to sell other regiments, I don´t have a playable Guard army and my tanks usually just gather some dust or are being used as terrain. Really a shame, I´d buy lots of squads if they would do some Steel Legion or Valhallans.

  • @evangelosvasiliades1204

    @evangelosvasiliades1204

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately it's not the most plausible to do secondary squads for all the minor regiments as just a fun thing for one faction, the Krieg killteam was a good one time for the most popular secondary regiment, and even that format is ofcourse not ideal if you want to do a whole armies worth of infantry of special regiments. It's sad, but I suppose I'll take it over most factions which just have little sub faction aesthetic variety. Let it be said head swaps and the right colourscheme make a big difference though.

  • @DasVadderr

    @DasVadderr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@evangelosvasiliades1204 It would not be much effort for GW though. They could for example replace a currently available regiment. Of course they´ll keep their Cadians but Catachans look old af and instead of updating them some time in the future, they could release another regiment. They don´t even have to do more than a Command Squad and regular Infantry, everything else would be kitbashed. Or just release a full regular squad of DK. Then the people can choose between torso with armor and torso with coat. That would be a significant improvement. GW is into this whole upgrade kit thing anyway and it works perfectly with the Marines. Upgrade kits with heads, greebly and transfers combined with two different torsos wuld suffice for most players and do GW´s arch-nemesis, the dreadded third-party-vendors, probably more harm than banning their heads from WH world.

  • @krism.6598
    @krism.6598 Жыл бұрын

    Buy as many copies of the old start collecting box as you can before they go off shelves. Three Russes are a good start for a decent IG army.

  • @thevoxdeus

    @thevoxdeus

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it's way too late to get any of those at or less than MSRP.

  • @LCFC81

    @LCFC81

    Жыл бұрын

    Leman Russ box + GSC brood brothers box is essentially the same.

  • @tyjames3339
    @tyjames33399 ай бұрын

    I feel like the combat patrol should swap the sentinel and field ordinance for a russ and a HWT, and itd be an absolutely goated box, especially since combat patrol is supposed to be 500 points and curently this box only comes out to about 370, while custodians is almost 700

  • @Ghost3210
    @Ghost3210 Жыл бұрын

    Everybody gangsta until you take out 8 shades of BANEBLADES.

  • @sneedmando186
    @sneedmando186 Жыл бұрын

    If you find the cheap 5 pack snap together Guardsman grab box, stock up. When I was starting(before the new starter boxes), they were half the cost of the typical full squad when you did the math. A great way to boost numbers and meet minimums

  • @theredestshirt9726
    @theredestshirt9726 Жыл бұрын

    Still got my Cadia Stands box, painting my guys up as Halo 3 Marines and Kasarkin as ODSTs.

  • @thedave3880

    @thedave3880

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @dickencider104
    @dickencider104 Жыл бұрын

    Right on for the shout out. It's always popping off on Mordian glories channel

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video as always!

  • @MechMK1
    @MechMK1 Жыл бұрын

    I hope you can make a video about T'au as well. Their boatload of options can be quite intimidating for a new player.

  • @jboydayz

    @jboydayz

    Жыл бұрын

    Fuck the xenos, you know they tau girls aren’t as thick as they say it is.

  • @YouWinAFREEiPOD

    @YouWinAFREEiPOD

    Жыл бұрын

    I can predict how the script will read for T'au and really any other remaining ones: 1) Buy Combat Patrol [Faction] 2) Hey Element Games is pretty cool ;-) 3) Old Start Collecting! / Christmas set for [Faction] may nebulously exist somewhere........ 4) Repeat

  • @friskydingo9024
    @friskydingo9024 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Blood Angels army and was considering getting a Guard army but the price is kinda wild to get the things I would want to get.

  • @thesherbet

    @thesherbet

    Жыл бұрын

    if you do some research on 3rd party sites you can save a fair chunk. I priced out an army and got spreadsheeting, saved about 30% buying from 3rd party resellers and making use of the box sets (new combat patrol and tempestus). Still daunting but thats just GW for you

  • @donnylurch4207
    @donnylurch4207 Жыл бұрын

    Speaking of alternate sculpts, I'm a fan of pinups, so I really want to buy/print the full line of Across the Realms's Pinup Corps and ideally field them one day. I've for a single unit of 10 infantry with sergeant on the way, but I'd like to know how to adapt them to the game - what unit to run each sculpt as, what subfaction to choose, etc.

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Жыл бұрын

    How to start an Imperial Guard Army: 1) *Make peace with your newely aquired debt*

  • @doompig83
    @doompig83 Жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing! I'm just starting a (Traitor) guard army for Narrative games.

  • @hobbybro3902
    @hobbybro3902 Жыл бұрын

    Got all my IG through 3 start collecting boxes, 2 Cadia defense force boxes, 2 Battleforce boxes. Have some other odds and ends. Probably get 6 more boxes of troops 2 Kasrkin, 2 Veteran guard boxes, and a new combat patrol box. I need to get some HQ unit’s probably Solar and Ursula Creed. I’m gonna work on having a 2000 point list built and painted later this year maybe. Necrons and Death Guard are my mine focus currently.

  • @h2835
    @h2835 Жыл бұрын

    The first thing a new Guard player needs to understand is how the army works. In other armies (like Space Marines) you look at a unit, see what it does, and then bring one. With Guard you need to forget this. You decide what your army wants to do, and then select the appropriate units from the Codex. And this is where most new players make their second mistake. Guard is not like others. Other armies have something they are good at. Guard does not. Take for example a Hellhound tank. It has 11 wounds at T7 and a BS of 4+. But the moment it goes to 5 Wounds remaining the BS is down to 5+. And on the last 2 Wounds the BS is down to 6+. So at the beginning of the game it has an 50% chance to hit. After the first round of enemy shooting it will be down to about 33%, and before blowing up it will be down to 16%. So usually your wehicles will shoot like Orks do. But Orks get to roll a lot of dices to have any meaningful shooting at all. Guard does not. For this reason, you need at least 2 of every unit that you take. And if your list depends on it to win, then at least 3. And this is only in terms of vehicles. In terms of squads the ideal Guard list used to have at least 6 Infantry squads for an 1000 point list. Preferably more. With Arks you are not limited to 9 Infantry, and 3 Kasrkin. That is a grand total of 12 Infantry squads for the 6 Objectives and 5 turns of game. This is where it gets expensive fast, as the cost to buy the 9 Infantry squads from GW is 360 EUR. For a grand total of 585 points. Add in 3 squads of Kasrkin for 135 EUR and an additional 300 ponts, and you have yet to reach 900 points, but you have just spent 495 EUR at GW retail prices. At current GW prices if you do not plan on visiting Official GW tournaments I would highly suggest looking into alternative sculpts or a resin printer, as the printer will have payed for itself twofold by the time you build your 2000 point army. Alternative sculpts can also be a good option, as for example Wargames Atlantic usually has boxes of 20 miniatures go for around 140-150 EUR in an 5 box multipack deal. That is about half price compared to GW Infantry troops.

  • @totalfan5801
    @totalfan5801 Жыл бұрын

    Been starting my guard army since the Cadia Stands box set came out. Quickly learned that 3d printing will be my best friend not to go bankrupt .-.

  • @visualrobin1719
    @visualrobin1719 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, new noob here sorry; is the current Astra Militarum codex available the exact same as the one that came in the Cadia Stands box? Or are there some differences? Like extra pages of lore/artwork

  • @ksamuel9
    @ksamuel9 Жыл бұрын

    As of now I'm just trying to buy as much Veteran Guardsmen Kill teams so I can build up my Krieg infantry squads

  • @shigeolincolntaco
    @shigeolincolntaco Жыл бұрын

    Amazon is where you need to shop I've built 4 different 40k Army's through Amazon

  • @mikedaknight8854
    @mikedaknight8854 Жыл бұрын

    Fortunately I’ve been collecting guard on and off for over 20 and recently stripped all the old metal squads to give them a re-do as an adult. Need more tanks though I think 😂

  • @icotica921
    @icotica921 Жыл бұрын

    I do love how valiant and heroic the guard are I’m sure your personal regiment reflects this >:)

  • @maxkorner1123
    @maxkorner1123 Жыл бұрын

    im thinking about starting to 3d print a dkok army. I already got the named comissar and another comissar und about 20 dkok models. Any suggestions for how i should continue?

  • @winstonmuljadi6076
    @winstonmuljadi6076 Жыл бұрын

    Hello there, would anyone have a suggestion or recommendation on how someone could adapt the list at the end of the video for a 1000-pt game? Thank you 😊

  • @liveanotheranime3526
    @liveanotheranime3526 Жыл бұрын

    It maybe not the best but I have fun with my 1k list. HQ: Tank Commander -Battle Cannon Troops: 3x10 Infantry Squads Fast Attack: 2 Armored Sentinels and 3 Scout Sentinels Heavy Support: 2 Leman Russ

  • @jacobstrong9888
    @jacobstrong9888 Жыл бұрын

    I started my army buying 140 Scions, 6 Taurox Primes, and 3 Valkyries. My Orbital Drop Shock Troopers (ODST) are being recruited and trained (built and painted) and I can't wait to deploy them to the battlefields of the 41st millennium!

  • @thevoxdeus
    @thevoxdeus Жыл бұрын

    I wonder which army requires a bigger lunatic: GSC, IG, or AdMech?

  • @cyanideinmycereal1077
    @cyanideinmycereal1077 Жыл бұрын

    The biggest thing I think sells Guard is how versatile you can make them, and how well they can do it. Like artillery, all tanks, all infantry, mech infantry, air cavalry, elite scions in transports, all of it is at least a decent threat on the tabletop.

  • @Sneedmeister
    @Sneedmeister4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. Literally JUST TODAY i made the insane decision to throw away 100% of my grey-horde from AOS and start Warhammer 100% new by having ZERO miniatures and dipping my toes in 40k. Imperial Guard are everything I want out of a fantasy setting; regular men and boys facing the horrors of the Warp; together. Something just feels "right" about hording hundreds of minis for "meat waves" to secure victory

  • @Mr_Waffle.
    @Mr_Waffle. Жыл бұрын

    Makes me sad seeing the Basilisk picture through this video, it has been “Temporarily out of stock Online” on the GW site for months lol :(

  • @TIEbaron
    @TIEbaron10 ай бұрын

    Is the combat patrol the same as the army box?

  • @daringdarius5686
    @daringdarius5686 Жыл бұрын

    How to get into Astra Militarum: 1st) Do rule of cool, save up and spend hundreds of dollars on Krieg boy Grenadiers (Ebay), Death Riders and the Gorgon Armoured Assault Transport 2nd) Assemble and start painting everything! 3rd) Start your first 40k match towards the end of 8e with your new 1k points of Krieg! 4th) Hear about the new compendium, only to find out 75% of your army is now in legends, such as the now nerfed Gorgon that is still being sold for $300 5th) Flip GW the bird, and 3D print your remaining 1k points 6th) Profit! (Even as angry as I was about the timing and how everything went down, I don't regret starting AM or Kriegers at all. I love the sculpts, and I had a blast doing them! I'm currently finishing up assembling and hope to start painting soon the remainder of the army, as the time between the 4th and 5th step is 2 years due to demotivation, and because I decided to dupe the Gorgon and just go full infantry, i.e. 146 models. AM is just fun to use and Warhammer is one of the few games I've ever played where... being human you have to be a badass or die! The whole "balls to the wall" sentiment just resounds within me and is so much fun!)

  • @unfortunate76
    @unfortunate768 ай бұрын

    I’m a new player who loves the concept of the Astra Militarum and wants them to be my first army, but it seems like they’re really pricy and difficult Should I choose a different army/plan?

  • @bruceu1419
    @bruceu1419 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Guard start collecting box, and I plan to combine them with the new Guard combat patrol as the Therion Cohort to accompany my Raven Guard

  • @MustyBucket
    @MustyBucket Жыл бұрын

    Lol just the video I wanted, almost telepathically

  • @ChrisJohnson-vi3ed
    @ChrisJohnson-vi3ed Жыл бұрын

    Auspex Tactics: How to Start a Guard Army! Me: Slap 10 las-dudes on the build plate for less than a dollar in resin.

  • @weihaigoh9734
    @weihaigoh9734 Жыл бұрын

    I got army set, veteran, rogal dorn tank, gaunt ghost and sly Mario for beginning

  • @omnissiahsphinx6274
    @omnissiahsphinx62748 ай бұрын

    What would be Element games, here in the US?

  • @reavern
    @reavern Жыл бұрын

    I held off on starting an Astra Militarum army a month ago - I only bought a Rogal Dorn and 3 Leman Russ tanks for a Brood Brother detachment for my Genestealer Cults army. But now that AM’s second wave is being released, I’m being tempted all over again. I mean, I already own 700+ points worth of tanks; if I buy the Cadia Stands army box, the AM Combat Patrol box, the Attilan Rough Riders, and 3 HQs, I’ll have a 2000 pt army. Why not?

  • @elRandomTk
    @elRandomTk Жыл бұрын

    I'm genuinely confused by the list at the end, why do the shock troops have double plasma, I tought you couldn't double. Has it been FAQed since I heard it, or is this not valid now (maybe the tournament was in early stage or something

  • @thevoxdeus

    @thevoxdeus

    Жыл бұрын

    What is the source of your confusion? The codex says up to two models can each choose to swap to plasma.

  • @elRandomTk

    @elRandomTk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thevoxdeus ty for response, on Wahapedia version there is an asterisk saying you can't take 2 of the same weapons in unit

  • @thevoxdeus

    @thevoxdeus

    Жыл бұрын

    @elRandomTk I'd be interested to know where Wahapedia got that idea. I know I had seen some people confused about this issue prior to the official codex release, but I haven't actually seen this errata'd anywhere and the codex uses the same rules format found in, e.g. Genestealers Cult or or other Codex where you can do multiple identical upgrades in a squad.

  • @elRandomTk

    @elRandomTk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thevoxdeus you've been very clear, again thank you

  • @testd32187

    @testd32187

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elRandomTk The '** You cannot select the same weapon more than once per unit.' is for the Platoon Command Squad and Infantry Squad, not the Cadians Shock Troops and Cadian Command Squad (can also take 2). The cadians cannot take heavy weapons instead. This might have been and old error, but if so has been corrected a long time ago on wahapedia.

  • @Moorhuehnchen
    @Moorhuehnchen Жыл бұрын

    I literally got my sentinels and chimeras off ebay the rest 3D printer 3rd party and recasts of OoP valhallans for 18€ a squad with weapon options never been available in the OG pack.

  • @234sd21sc
    @234sd21sc Жыл бұрын

    cool

  • @jack-a-lopium
    @jack-a-lopium Жыл бұрын

    That new Guard Combat Pat box is lovely!

  • @connornicholls9353
    @connornicholls9353 Жыл бұрын

    Hey that’s my list! If you guys had any questions about it shoot away

  • @Narago.
    @Narago. Жыл бұрын

    Hey Auspexs. Im not really got on rules in 40k since I’m pretty new. But I have a friend drawn to the happy since I started. But he was a huge fan of having combined arms. Like part sisters, guard and knights in one army. Would something like this be possible in 2k points and if so could he stand against one faction army’s ?

  • @Moonwake534

    @Moonwake534

    Жыл бұрын

    You can but you will lock a lot faction specific rules out plus it’ll be very expensive in CP for the detachments you’ll have to buy. If you are playing with your own play group then knock yourself out with using all the rules so long as everyone agrees, but if you play against anyone else that may be a different story

  • @bobrbw
    @bobrbw Жыл бұрын

    So according to some forces, there are about 30 TRILLION active guardsmen, which means about 1.5 trillion dollars in models. So, sounds fun

  • @michaelgalloway1359
    @michaelgalloway1359 Жыл бұрын

    I just got the Cadia Stands box about a month and a half ago. I also bought a squad of Kasrkin off ebay along with a Rogal Dorn and Lord Solar. Iam a relatively new player I only started to collect right before Guard had an actual announcement about their new edition so I got lucky and didnt sink too much money in before the new models dropped. Guard is definitely an expensive army, its not horrific for points if you go the route of buying more Kasrkin than regular infantry to both fill points and be good models its just Kasrkin dont exist right now I got once box from the shadowvaults launch like 3 months ago and the recent launch of their standalone box has been a pain to find anything for MSRP people just scalping them for $30 more than what they were sold for or more but I'm hoping to have 3-4 squads of Kasrkin by the time everything is said and done and I do think that for a new player and for an effective army it is the way to go is to get them over the usual Cadian infantry supposing you arent going to go super armor heavy, along with that if youre looking to do either Krieg or Catachan or really anything else go find an STL somewhere and 3d print or have a friend print them because they are not worth the money they want to charge you. A squad of Krieg supposing you buy a box of veteran guard is $60 for 10 models which is horrific along with that their forge world minis are ludicrously expensive like $400 for an earthshaker platform. I wouldnt even look at Catachan aside from rule of cool and even then finding a comparable print would be better than paying an arm and a leg for models older than me. Imperial Guard is not a cheap army being pseudo horde depending on how you spec yourself out, as said I'm going more the heavy infantry route having some chaff and objective holders in the form of regular Cadian infantry but my backbone is going to be made up of Kasrkin, the Rogal, and a Baneblade with the deathstrike playing area denial on objectives. Guard are a very versatile army at the moment and it will be interesting to see how they hold up in 10th edition when that eventually comes but at the moment you can really play them however you want to as long as you arent too wishy washy on what you want, dont be half in with infantry and half in armor go one way or another or youll have either an issue of too many infantry are getting chewed up or youre not getting enough firepower out of your tanks.

  • @frenzymodexd

    @frenzymodexd

    Жыл бұрын

    You can only have a maximum of 3 squads of Kasrkin sadly

  • @michaelgalloway1359

    @michaelgalloway1359

    Жыл бұрын

    @@frenzymodexd oh really? Thanks you just saved me some money but still I might get some just to have a heavy weapons team and another one of all hotshots, thanks for the tip!

  • @frenzymodexd

    @frenzymodexd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelgalloway1359 Yeah, rule of 3 applies to any datasheet! But you can squad for example 3 Leman Russes into one data sheet so you can bring 9 tanks and then 3 tank commanders for a total of 12 Leman Russes. Troops choices do not apply to the rule of 3 though so you can have like 12 Shock Troops.

  • @greenjoseph4
    @greenjoseph4 Жыл бұрын

    Just buy 4 baneblades… that’s about 2k points and an awful lot of fun (not the most competitive but loads and loads of fun)

  • @ianeichenlaub5084
    @ianeichenlaub5084 Жыл бұрын

    GW has made some strange decisions lately, if they want people to buy a lot of Astra Militarum models. I have put my catachan force on pause for now. Have plenty of troops since a lot of them were built to be elite units that no longer exist. There's no reason to buy anything right now, besides tanks. But I gotta finish painting all the things I've bought, but are not really playable, now. Once I finish painting all the stuff I can't use, maybe it'll be playable again. Who knows? For now though, I'm back to working on my orks. Most of that stuff is still reasonably playable. I don't feel emotionally attached to GW products, so I'm always tempted to get various third party kits because they look cooler. And if many units aren't very useable, why would I pick a GW model over any other? I can't imagine any scenario where anything from forgeworld would be appealing to me, a catachan player. I am thankful they don't seem to desire my money. Weird business model

  • @evangelosvasiliades1204

    @evangelosvasiliades1204

    Жыл бұрын

    What? Guard should consistently bring 100 inf + for screening even when they aren't the list's focus. A ton of Scions and Kasrkin are absolutely valid, and one of the most powerful tools the Guard has is a Scion deathball. By the 'no longer exist' comment I assume you mean vets, but the double special weapons of Cadian shock troop squads deals with that problem and have a great little bonus to boot. There are plenty of things I complain about with GW in general and guard related things of the past, but I have no idea how you wound up where you are at.

  • @BrotherVoidBomber

    @BrotherVoidBomber

    Жыл бұрын

    @evangelosvasiliades1204 Vets and conscripts hurt a lot of guard players hearts and wallets since they have been a codex for what +5 years now? I may enjoy the new DKIS as great infanty choice for my Vallahans but I won't lie and say I wouldn't rather just have the option to run +20 bodies for 100 or less pts. With artillery basically being pointless with +5s to hit, and flyers being given absolutely nothing to do it's not hard to see many people who enjoyed those playstyles with a long running codex being rather disappointed. Someone said this when the leaks first happened. "It's not about what was gained in this codex but rather what was lost.

  • @evangelosvasiliades1204

    @evangelosvasiliades1204

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BrotherVoidBomber Conscripts weren't something I saw taken that often in the past, but it does suck to lose them 100%, they were the epitome of just having meat for the grinder which is fun. Vets I just don't get though, Cadian Shock Troops are functionally their rule adaptation, less consistency in favour of exploding dice, I don't see anything I would use vets for in the past no longer being doable, and the Mechanized regiment trait makes that style feel better than it has ever since 7th atleast. Artillery and Aircraft situation sucks, but thats a general rules problem, not guard. Heres hoping 10th edition doesn't just leave both in the gutter. I'm getting the feel that will be the case for artillery sadly (admittedly after years of balance problems with them) but that aircraft will get a positive rework.

  • @johnlowkey359
    @johnlowkey359 Жыл бұрын

    Step 1: Mentally prepare yourself for spending twice what you would on nearly every other army/ Step 2: Lower your painting standards and ambitions if you ever hope to field it.

  • @commieboi2162
    @commieboi2162 Жыл бұрын

    How to start a Grey Knights army: "Just buy 3 combat patrol boxes and youre good" :))))

  • @Bloodworia
    @Bloodworia Жыл бұрын

    Nah, man. I'll get a kasrkin kill Team eventually and that will be it.

  • @ThijsSchrijnemakers
    @ThijsSchrijnemakers Жыл бұрын

    comment for the skull throne

  • @thebigk7465
    @thebigk7465 Жыл бұрын

    Step one: buy a baneblade Step two: buy three more

  • @snufflebunny539
    @snufflebunny539 Жыл бұрын

    Me watching this with 5000 points of guardsmen: interesting

  • @TechnoDemon164
    @TechnoDemon164 Жыл бұрын

    4x Baneblades.....your opponent will say "blah blah rule of 3 blah blah"....use one to throw at him and the other 3 to play with

  • @1986fritzthecat

    @1986fritzthecat

    Жыл бұрын

    Why not just use different variants?

  • @robertstrong6798
    @robertstrong6798 Жыл бұрын

    I’d say don’t if you want to pay your rent and eat and drink for the month lmao 🤣

  • @temirbek2004
    @temirbek20047 ай бұрын

    Invest in 3d printer for guard, it will be much cheaper

  • @shanehudson3995
    @shanehudson3995 Жыл бұрын

    Step 1 : Become an organ Donor.

  • @vinnythewebsurfer
    @vinnythewebsurfer Жыл бұрын

    If games workshop want to insist on imperial guard being stupidly and unreasonably expensive, than I guess more power to those backwards narks.

  • @valaquenta220
    @valaquenta2204 ай бұрын

    Step 1 : sell all your belongings and your soul to the devil Step 2 : ??? Step 3 : profit

  • @darko-man8549
    @darko-man8549 Жыл бұрын

    I'd say the trick would be to avoid GW at all costs as these guys are probably the easiest to proxy from other minature makers and if you want specific vehicles or models 3rd party or sailing is the way

  • @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935
    @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 Жыл бұрын

    Well luck for me (kinda), my local hobby shop closed down and everything was 80 to 90 percent off so I'm set for all my Imperial gaurd needs. Like i have like 15 baneblade 18(ish) lemun russ battle tanks 12 lemun russ demolisher 20+ Imperial Gaurdsmen 5 ogryn 10 valkyries 2 basilisks 9 hellhounds 20+ Chimera 10+ commissar And etc various other boxes. Sad part is now if i need something i have to drive 200km to the nearest hobby shop.

  • @francoabad4911
    @francoabad4911 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe Starting with 2 Combat patrolls are the way to go if making Astra Militarum... Then.. purchasing 1 by one or 2nd hand Leman russ

  • @damnedLegion40K
    @damnedLegion40K Жыл бұрын

    Add a comment...169 First purchase the codex, $110nzd and going up 6%

  • @opesam
    @opesam Жыл бұрын

    1) Buy a 3D printer... 😜

  • @marknus89
    @marknus89 Жыл бұрын

    How to start an Astra Militarum army. Buy a 3d printer. Or Get a second mortgage.

  • @folieadeux5463
    @folieadeux5463 Жыл бұрын

    How to use my own brain please?

  • @danielc-s8056
    @danielc-s8056 Жыл бұрын

    Just use wargames atlantic minis if you don't want to be poor

  • @kikolokopo_toys
    @kikolokopo_toys Жыл бұрын

    3rd

  • @ryanmarquez9404
    @ryanmarquez9404 Жыл бұрын

    Don't

  • @henwald7898
    @henwald7898 Жыл бұрын

    hmm

  • @fragfmgill
    @fragfmgill Жыл бұрын

    buy a 3d printer it will be cheaper and you will have a printer for free.

  • @kdhlkjhdlk
    @kdhlkjhdlk Жыл бұрын

    Don't buy the codex, it'll be obsolete by the time you finish painting your models.

  • @Moonwake534
    @Moonwake534 Жыл бұрын

    Step 1: Don’t Step 2: Find way cheaper alternative

  • @Beebepyopo
    @Beebepyopo Жыл бұрын

    first

  • @JimH.

    @JimH.

    Жыл бұрын

    You need a hobby.

  • @Beebepyopo

    @Beebepyopo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JimH. Don't talk to me amigo, thanks

  • @genericname4739
    @genericname4739 Жыл бұрын

    My advice to any who enters to play guard is proxy a lot of your infantry. There are cheaper boxes out there and all have all the stuff you need. Also consider 3d printing your stuff, and if you can do your best to Ebay through it. Buying from GW is not worth it.

  • @aaronrothwell6504
    @aaronrothwell6504 Жыл бұрын

    Please, for the love og God don't it's so much money its insane.

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