How to Square the Festool MFT/3 WITHOUT Using Jigs and Squares

Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль

In this video, I share a technique on How to Square the Festool MFT/3 WITHOUT Using Jigs and Squares!! Recently I saw some posts on the Festool owner's group forum wherein a member was seeking advice on how to attain a square cut on the MFT. He had recently ordered (and had not yet received) his table, and was already asking what additional tools and positioning jigs were needed to get his guide rail square. There were lots of great tools recommended, yet not one person had told him it was possible to get square cuts WITHOUT buying additional items. The Festool MFT/3 isn't easy on the wallet, so to think you have to spend more money to use it is a little ridiculous in my eyes. After thinking of potential solutions, I was looking at my own MFT and thought "I wonder if I can use what I already have to achieve square cuts". It didn't take me long to whip out my woodpecker square and check if the guide plate on the TS-75 was square - and sure enough it was. All that to say - you don't have to buy additional tools to square the Festool MFT/3, just use your track saw!
Affiliate links to the tools I own and use:
DISCLAIMER - As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
Festool 495315 MFT/3 Multifunction Table - amzn.to/2IqPWzT
Festool TS 75 EQ Plunge Cut Circular Saw with 75-Inch Track amzn.to/2KgNkG2
Festool 204083 CT Cyclone Dust Separator - amzn.to/3dsvNVx
Festool 564261 CXS Li Compact Drill Driver Plus - amzn.to/2SRqUfs
Festool 574690 HL 850 E Planer - amzn.to/33W1hAu
Festool 497514 Kapex UG Portable Miter Station Set - amzn.to/2GYFmzT
Festool 574930 CT 26 E HEPA Dust Extractor - amzn.to/352xaGZ
Festool 452881 Non-Antistatic Hose, (36 mm X 3.5 m) - amzn.to/378xUgm
Festool 575039 ETS EC 150/3 EQ Random Orbit Sander - amzn.to/3due7cs
Festool 561593 Carvex PS 420 EBQ Jigsaw - amzn.to/318AjDJ
Festool 574432 Domino Joiner DF 500 Q Set - amzn.to/3179Ne2
Festool 574456 MFK 700 EQ Edge Banding Router - amzn.to/34VAl3a
Festool 574609 KA 65 CONTURO Portable Edge Bander - amzn.to/3iZT2rt
Festool MFT/3 Conturo Table Set - amzn.to/317cHzj
Festool 574692 OF 1400 EQ Router - amzn.to/2H5UOdj
Festool 203160 Parallel Guide Set For Guide Rail System, Imperial - amzn.to/375Ijt2
0:00 Intro
1:09 Step 1
1:22 Step 2
1:32 Step 3
1:46 Step 4
2:04 Step 5
2:20 Step 6
2:46 Step 7
2:54 Step 8
3:08 Step 9
3:18 Step 10
3:32 Conclusion

Пікірлер: 54

  • @bentswoodworking
    @bentswoodworking3 жыл бұрын

    This is so simple and a wonderful idea.

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks, bud!

  • @fernando2014

    @fernando2014

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very nice! That’s ingenuity for you, using the tracksaw itself as a square. I would still recommend the “stop slop” under the guide rail to take away any movement.

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fernando2014 true, however I don’t want people thinking they HAVE to buy other tools. I wanted to prove that extra tools and accessories save you TIME, and nothing more. I’ve not had any issues with guide rail shifting, so not sure if it’s a defect that’s been corrected in manufacturing. My MFT is about 3 years old and gets used almost daily.

  • @MyGarageWorkshop

    @MyGarageWorkshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fernando2014 the slop stop is not required. When the weight of the saw compressed the neoprene the slop is removed. It’s a gimmick imo.

  • @SlappingCheeks

    @SlappingCheeks

    6 ай бұрын

    @@MyGarageWorkshopwhat is the slop stop?

  • @dante8506
    @dante85065 ай бұрын

    Best method from all the ones I tried to square my MFT, so simple an dead on square after. Thank you.

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    4 ай бұрын

    nice!

  • @EddyCarroll
    @EddyCarroll3 жыл бұрын

    This is brilliantly simple - excellent!

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not too shabby, eh?!

  • @jschwartzlow
    @jschwartzlow3 жыл бұрын

    I think you are almost there. I recommend two additions. 1 - shift track right so not to cut into dog holes. This allows you to router out a sacrifical insert later if you choose. 2 - rather than measure diagonal complete a fifth cut to incorporate the 5 cut method of establishing square. Enjoying your videos. Thanks!

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    All great points, John!! I use the kapex trimming attachments, and the distance is set to match up with the flag stops. I was very close to using the 5 cut method in this video, but felt like that would take away from the key point of the method here - which is to square up the MFT without any tools. Appreciate the comments and feedback!!

  • @kenjames2214
    @kenjames22143 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, so simple and well explained - thank you...

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Kenneth! Glad you found it helpful

  • @andymarshall2201
    @andymarshall22013 жыл бұрын

    Well done Ben, very logically once someone else has thought of it. Very impressed. Best Andy

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Andy!

  • @tedrzz
    @tedrzz3 жыл бұрын

    Briliant, thanks for this! I'm 100 percent going to set up my MFT in this manner.

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!! Glad it's helpful!

  • @wentbackward
    @wentbackward Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ben. This worked! In addition I moved the mitre box closer to the guide (as yours is) and I loosened one of the hex nuts on the guide rail hinge as my guide rail was so far off, then tightened once square. Thanks again.

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Glad it helped

  • @collsoftlimited7218
    @collsoftlimited72182 жыл бұрын

    Very practical video - thanks

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    2 жыл бұрын

    Welcome!

  • @LaserGarage
    @LaserGarage3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome tips, thanks a lot

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    Of course! thanks for checking it out!

  • @pmelchman
    @pmelchman3 жыл бұрын

    What a great suggestion

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Patrick!

  • @milandjordjevic5949
    @milandjordjevic59494 ай бұрын

    Thank You Ben for this very helpful Video. You are Great Bro . Greetings from Wonderful Vienna . Thumbs up 👍and y follow your Channel .

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 ай бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @archeryates1309
    @archeryates13093 жыл бұрын

    good hints

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤜🏻🤛🏻

  • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
    @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios3 жыл бұрын

    Ben!!!! Thank you SO VERY MUCH, Brother! My mind digested that like curry being consumed by a piss ant. Festool needs to send their master instructors to you... So that they can re-do the manual and instructional doctrine in a more efficient and effective manner. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Wishing you, your family, friends, and loved ones a very happy and healthy holiday season!

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    shazam! Glad it helped, mayne! And Merry Christmas to your family as well!

  • @Ashe_Fenrir
    @Ashe_Fenrir3 жыл бұрын

    After hearing on all the festool videos that I shouldn't mess with the "factory set stops" and never being able to get a perfect setup done quickly, this video saved me! Thanks and great job with the channel!

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Glad it’s helped!!

  • @christophec.482
    @christophec.4822 жыл бұрын

    you could use the 5 cuts method as well. no additionnal cost and very high precision. thqnks forthe tip on the square base for the TS5

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course! Wanted to provide an additional way to check or set it. Some people don't want to chase the caliper settings on a set up. This is much quicker, but isn't as precise as the 5 cut. Thanks for sharing that!

  • @christophec.482

    @christophec.482

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BenMarshallDesigns fully agree. I also think the 5 cuts method is not so well known .... maybe could be an addon video to this one ;) In any case, thanks for sharing and good job on the video editing.

  • @AaronGeller

    @AaronGeller

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BenMarshallDesigns I did look up the 5 cuts method after seeing this comment and your way seems far easier. There is a guy who made a calculator for the 5 cuts method and he applied it for a crosscut sled with a table saw. For this specific application, your way seems most efficient. No need to make a video that so many others have already made. This was the video I needed - thank you for taking the time to share this freely.

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AaronGeller of course, glad you found it helpful. Yes William Ng has a great video on the 5 cut method, great for dialing in squareness as you said. This is great for those that have to constantly set up and break down the MFT for field work

  • @jtlong8383
    @jtlong83833 жыл бұрын

    I am curious why not square the fence by its adjustments instead of the rail clamps?

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was a realization after I posted this video. Sedge from Festool has a few videos of him doing this - live and learn! Just another way to do it!

  • @jtlong8383

    @jtlong8383

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BenMarshallDesigns I love the idea of using the track saw base as the square reference! Thanks!

  • @Benmeglei1
    @Benmeglei1 Жыл бұрын

    Or…..buy a dashboard guide rail bracket and be done after step 1

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    Жыл бұрын

    the point is to NOT have to buy more things and use something you already have that works just as good

  • @royr327
    @royr3273 жыл бұрын

    I didn't see a Five Cut method. Measuring corner to corner proves nothing, You might be making perfect parallelograms all day long!

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    You've caught me red handed - I didn't even check for squareness, not even when prepping for the video or the countless projects I've made that are in fact square with this method. Thank you, good sir, for calling me out. I shall quit youtube immediately and reevaluate my life choices.

  • @royr327

    @royr327

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BenMarshallDesigns Great reply, I knew it was square but a newbe might not know what the 5 cut method is. Cheers,

  • @BenMarshallDesigns

    @BenMarshallDesigns

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Roy R I would hope that a newbie isn't jumping straight into purchasing Festool!! I debated on covering what the 5 cut method was, however felt it wasn't necessary for this video. Good on you for looking out for the lesser experienced though! 👍👍

  • @WelshRabbit

    @WelshRabbit

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BenMarshallDesigns Indeed. A newbie who buys Festool for his first woodworking tools might as well buy a Felder (Format 4), SCM, Martin Machinenbau, or Altendorf as his first table saw.

  • @WelshRabbit

    @WelshRabbit

    3 жыл бұрын

    Roy, but any parallelogram with equal diagonals would, perforce, have perfect 90º corners, n'est-ce pas?

Келесі