For the compressor you want to try and match the min CFM. Remember at 10 psi the CFM goes up on your compressor more than you think. Don't waste your money see my link. HVLP KIT in Video: amzn.to/2UEbKfW Cheap Compressor that works great: thd.co/2UvsLsT Disposable Coveralls: amzn.to/2In9FPb Paint Strainer: amzn.to/2UB9MNh Spray Sock (for your head): amzn.to/2FYhOGI Boot/shoe Covers: amzn.to/2WRRaWK Respirator I Use: amzn.to/2U3SMv7

@BODGE71

5 жыл бұрын

Where do you buy your air filters from or do they come with the guns?

@katzmosestools

5 жыл бұрын

@@BODGE71 comes with the guns

@Mageikman

4 жыл бұрын

So could I use a small craftsman 5g compressor or is that to small should I find something around 8g or.higher

@multidinero

3 жыл бұрын

Is that Chris Salmone’s partner in this video with you?

@paul_hartsel24

Жыл бұрын

Do you recommend the same setup for stains as well?

What a great overview. Maybe the best I have been able to fine all over KZread. Thank you for taking the time to make this!

Thanks Jonathan. I am proficient with Syphon feed spraying, but wanted to get into HVLP for a while now. Thanks so much for giving me some basic direction. God Bless U and Yours.

You deserve a KZread award for best video on how to paint with HvLP gun. Thank you for this. Super informative. To the point. No nonsense. Great job. Thank you again. Couldn’t ask for more. I’ve never left a comment like this b4 but you deserve these words and much more

Just got into spraying, this video is perfect. Thanks guys 👍🏻

Thank you for the awesome video! When I watch your videos I always feel empowered to do the projects after.

@katzmosestools

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud! That means a lot!

My wife and I spent well over an hour hand painting one side of an 1800mm X 1200mm garden trellis yesterday. We have four panels to do, and with two coats that works out to at least 16 hours of back ache (from leaning over to reach the centre) and the finish is not flash because it is so hard to avoid drips. This morning it suddenly clicked that I have a 3hp 50 litre compressor in my shop and easily enough airline to reach outside, so no need to pay a lot of money for an electric spray gun. It was a big bonus finding this video on my favourite woodworking channel. Plus I'll be able to spray paint finish on my projects. Today keeps getting better. While I was typing this comment a courier turned up with the Kreg router table insert and supports I'd ordered from Amazon. We heard last week that the USPS was stopping post to New Zealand and some other countries because of the lack of transportation, so I was worried that my router cabinet rebuild was going to be put on hold. I originally built the table top with laminated kitchen worktop that revealed itself as nasty chipboard when I cut out the hole for the insert. It was full of voids and socked up finish like a bottomless pit. Since then I have discovered Acacia hardwood benchtop which is solid and I can double thickness it for a 52mm solid hardwood top. I made the original insert out of 10mm actetal plastic which whilee being the stiffest of the machinable plastics, still distorted when tightened, so this time I am using the Kreg insert which I have a lot of experience with. So I am a happy camper right now. If only it would stop raining. :-(

I love hvlp I use the Devilbiss that takes a zip lock bag inside the cup so you can spray in all directions and never have your gun skip from losing suction plus clean up is easier

Thanks for another great video👍 I was looking for a quick rundown on an HVLP sprayer and whose video was #2 in the queue.....the 60 second tour was perfect, just wanted to see if there were any subtle nuances I needed to know. Thanks for all the work you put into the videos, your love of the craft is apparent!

Timely video, just started looking into upping my game with regard to hvlp . I use a cheap all in one unit from Aldi for spraying shellac and it works well but my wife would like a big bathroom unit made and some new kitchen doors which I would like to spray with probably 2 Part paint

Love the old Chevy Pickup in the background!!!

me. A professional finisher it's fun watching you guys suiting up. I like the pop up shade roof you utilized nice idea.

Exactly what I needed as I look at HVLP guns.....Thank you

Thank you so much for doing this buddy.

Great video. Just bought this spray kit. I’m looking forward to using it. Thanks.

am a beginner sprayer this video really help me a lot my boss even think am a pro sprayer thanks once again

Thanks for taking the mystery out of it. Never done it before, so doesn't look as daunting now.

I think it would be worthy of note to mention that as you widen the fan, the material coverage will be less. So as you widen (or narrow) you fan size, double check your material coverage.

That was helpful. Always wondered how those guns work. Thanks for sharing. Great vid. : )

@toddozaki3318

3 жыл бұрын

Ditto

Complete newby here. I'm scared to death of spraying the finish coat on the hull of my little sailboat that I have worked on so hard. God knows I've watched dozens of videos on this topic, trying to decide how best to achieve a smooth, shiny finish on my hull. This video is the best one, by far. Thanks for your enthusiasm, directness, humor and for taking the mystery out of the process of using an HVLP spray system! Well done!.

@Elvendertig1130

Жыл бұрын

How did it go? :)

Very useful information. Thank you

Best video for beginners out there.

@StefanSebregts

5 жыл бұрын

Beginners may want to know what to do after the spraying is done.....the dreaded clean up......

Nice. Thanks for sharing man. 👍🏼

Thank you for this video we plan on painting the outside of our woodshed chicken coop. We purchased the aeropro 9 piece spray gun kit👍🏾💕💕💕👍🏾

Great job!

Good demo I’m building a couple of coffee tables and I’ll finish them with an oil based finish wait a few weeks and spray the tops with lacker

Great video man!

Thanks for such an in-depth overview on technique. I have a Fuji mini mite 4 and really enjoy using it #FujiSpray, amazing system. i am about to finish my garage cabinets and trying to hone my technique. Once again thanks for the video.

Great info. Ty so much!!

New to your channel today, some really good stuff. My wife and I started a business in our home recently, as I was forced to take an extended leave from my profession, manufacturing process engineering, and production, management, and I am not the type of person to just sit on the couch doing nothing. So, we combined my prior experiences, with my education, and a particular passion of mine, music and musical instruments, with my wife's passion for art and color, as well as her work experience dealing with customers and the public, and we are building handmade, custom, electric guitars and basses. We are at the point now where we are looking at options for improving our finishing methods, and are looking for information regarding the differences, the pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses, in comparing HVLP with LVLP systems. We only have a small compressor and we are only finishing, at most, 3 instruments at a time, often just one instrument. We build all of our instruments using only high quality exotic and domestic hard woods, tone woods, many of them being highly figured pieces of these woods. So we will almost never be using paint, and opaque coloring, covering up these extremely beautiful, and extremely valuable, pieces. Applications of stains, dies, or other pigments for coloring, will usually be done by hand, or with a small airbrush kit that we have. The HVLP or LVLP system would be almost exclusively used for finishing of the instruments, like an application of a poly, a lacquer, etc. Any advice, Insight, or information, would be greatly appreciated! Thank You

@katzmosestools

4 жыл бұрын

I could spend hours answering this. Best advice I can give you is work hard and stay true to your passion. Sounds like you're on the right track. Cheers

Great timing on this. 2 quick questions / clarifications: 1. Can you use regular latex paints in these sprayers? If so, mixing recommendations? 2. Will a 6 gallon pancake compressor work?

Anyway you can talk about air compressor as well please. What type, how big and what to know about it in order to have a good quality finish for furniture. Thanks

@pnwgrown_360

2 жыл бұрын

I second that. Just bought a husky 60 gal compressor and want to know what I need to do to it in regards to like what type of filters / air cleaners you use

Anyone contemplating the Fuji Q4 or similar, I've had mine for a year with the suction feed T70 gun. Really enjoy using it. I have recently started using the 3M pressure pot and find it a great addition.

@PapiSmerf

4 жыл бұрын

I have the mini 4 and I love it. Can't imagine using anything else now that I've got my hands on it. I use the 3M pot too and it's a mandatory accessory in my opinion, being able to spray at any angle and never worry about the consistency of the paint feed is just so nice. Cleanup is a dream. It's one of those buy one cry once purchases. Yeah I spent $1500 on my setup. Yeah, I also have perfect finishes on everything I make for the rest of my life. I doubt these things wear out to the point they can't be rebuilt. I've sprayed everything from boat epoxy to super-thin poly and even painted a living room because I could. You've got to deliberately search to find things you can't do with a Fuji setup.

Helped alot thanks!!

May need to give an HVLP a try. I've always used airless... yes, really. Hot lacquer, pneumatic stirring on a 55 gallon drum. Of course we would turn out a high volume of cabinet, church trim....

Why did it take me 3 days to find this video lol. Great video man.

This is an awesome video!! And I was about to spend over $230 bucks for a black widow spray gun, lol!!

Thanks, very useful vedio

Nice informative video, good work. I wonder if a LVLP gun would work. Guess I will give it a try. I like how you put on that paint suit and wore gloves, very safe and a good idea.

Love your videos you have a great delivery of the information. I had a question about compressed size. I imagine using an HVLP you can use a smaller compressor. If this is a correct assumption how small a compressor would you recommend.

Thank you!

Do you have any specific recommendations for spraying stain through an HVLP? I've sprayed Lacquer and had great results but I would love to stop brushing stain.

Jonathan, I've watched this video now several times, very informative and great content! One question, currently I'm building a dresser with seven drawers and was curious to know if you prefer spraying the lacquer on the long pieces of the drawers (edges half-rounded) prior to cutting, gluing and assembly or after the drawers are assembled? It seemed to me spraying first has less chance of marking up the raw wood and the joints will still have unfinished wood for the glue to hold. Thanks!

I've only used a sprayer a couple of times, but a couple of things I noticed. First don't spray it in the garage. Everything gets coated in a fine dust. Second, don't use it for finishes such as stain that need to penetrate the wood.

When you drank out of your spray cup I about peed my pants. Best how-to ever.

So I’m trying to spray polyurethane out of my hvlp gun, what psi should it be set to and do I need to thin it out?

thank you Katz . how is my hair so funny . me at 66 its running of the top and going ever place else . lol

Great video! The kit comes with diferent nozzle diameters. 1.0mm, 1.4mm and 1.8mm. Which one do you use for different finishes? Thanks

So how well would this work for a production setting? Our company uses water based polyurethane. We push out 75-100 end table stumps(3 coats of poly) and 20-30 tables (4 coats of poly. coffee tables, sofa tables, benches, and dining tables) a week. Just wondering if this would be practical or would we have to refill the hopper an obscene amount of times

Do you thin down the water-based poly with additional water before spraying?

Great video! Thanks for posting. For myself this is very timely as I’m within a week of completing a standing desk that I intend to spray finish. Quick question, any recommendations on the air compressor? Thanks again!

@katzmosestools

5 жыл бұрын

I linked the one I use in the pinned comment

You should mix your material in a mixing cup then strain it into the paint gun. Since material that sets for a while can pile up in the bottom of the can and then stick to the bottom of the mixing stick you just used to stir it you don't wanna stick the stick back into the paint gun.

Great video, these days most are using more water based paints for woodwork and furniture builds, have you switched or still using oil based paints and thinners. If you have used them and still applying the paint with the HVLP, what would be your advise on thinning and spray needle tip size for painting. Very informative video and currently building a spray booth like yours! Appreciate if you got the time to get back to me.

is it necessary to thin stain when spraying? is it good to use a Japan dryer to thin rather than paint or laquer thinner?

Any thoughts on a HVLP + compressor setup like this, versus the Earlex/Homeright Super Finish Max? I'm definitely more interested in the simplified form factor of the Super Finish Max, and it seems to work well for a lot of folks...

Do you have a preferred go-to finish you like to use when spraying your finishes on? Love your videos btw man. Been watching and subscribed a long time!

Very timely video, thanks. Question, have you tried spraying a one coat exterior sealer like Cetol through this? I could not find a viscosity of the sealer product cutsheet. Any recomendations on sealer for outside furnature? Keep up the awesome vids.

@katzmosestools

5 жыл бұрын

Look up the MSDS sheet

I do small job cornhole boards and flags what size of sprayer should I be looking for I use polyurethane material mainly water base a little oil based.

Please could you help me how many layers of lacquer can I spray the maximum amount sometimes I have seen they have a really beautiful glass type of finish on top so please could you tell me how many layers is maximum

And to get it smooth do you put a gloss on after you paint

Hey Jonathan. How those guns relates to the electric ones? You can also make the same adjustments? About the tip size, you can adjust to deliver small amounts of material even with a tip like 2.6mm?

Hey, I could use that truck tail gate in the back ground. Want to get it out of there?

super helpful. Thx.

so as far as the compressor that you link to in your description do you ever have issues when you're spraying something larger that you have to wait for the compressor to catch up to have pressure in your gun?

If I bought the spray gun kit on amazon would a pancake air compressor work well with them?

can you interchange nozzles size between hvlp/lvlp in gun the same brand ?

So is the only thing that I need between my compressor in my gun is a dryer/water separator?

Hey, nicely done. I'm curious, how did you get coverage inside of the small boxes without tipping the gun?

I feel like you should do a collab with suavacito pomade that has a wood smell. I would buy that.

Can you use it for painting walls or is there another gun with nozzle you can recommend.

Do you recommend the same guns and compressor for shooting stain?

Just FYI on the compressor vs sprayer air usage: most compressors rate themselves on SCFM (Standard cubic feet per minute, ie, 1cfm at 14.7 psi absolute), and most air tools use CFM at 60 or 90psi (~75 or 105psi absolute) to make their product look good. So if a compressor says it produces 5 SCFM at 60psi, it's perfectly matched for a tool that consumes 1 CFM at 60psi. A standard Porter-Cable 6-gal pancake compressor produces 2.6 SCFM at 90 psi (0.36 CFM of 90psi air). Your air sprayer specs out at about 5 CFM at 45psi (20 SCFM). So that compressor is going to need something like 8 seconds to recover for every second of using that sprayer; not unworkable but not ideal. It's dumb and confusing, and has lead to many an undersized compressor.

@Novicks

3 жыл бұрын

What formula are you using to calculate this? I'm trying to decide on an appropriate size compressor to get for doing HVLP spraying as a hobbyist or to just get a small compressor and a turbine system.

@Camden04843

7 ай бұрын

Jonathan recommended an 8 gallon compressor that he said works great. 3.7 @ 90 PSI. Could that be correct? He has the link posted

Subbed

Can you use with chalk paint? What kind of compressor setup is needed?

Is the spray booth necessary when using that HVLP kit? Or just doing it outside would be enough?

Hi Shaun!

What compressor were you using here? The one in the video looks like my HF 8 gallon.

What about using a LVPL spray gun for water based poly? What’s a decent sized compressor and tip?

What size compressor do you use and what is the horsepower on it.

Will a 6 gallon air compressor keep up for smalls?

what type of pressure settings? Compressor output? spray gun regulator setting? thanks Jeff

Would you be able to spray paint through these HVLP sprayers ? Looking to paint a cabinet

What do you Recomend? A turbine sprayer or spray using a compressor

Great video Jonathan Katz Moses, do you still do you still like the HVLP kit would you recommend it? Thank you.

Do you have to sand between coats ?

Not shaking the can of product really only applies if you are brushing it on. The strainer (filter) eliminates any bubbles. Even if they made it to the gun, they would be atomized. If they made it through the gun and the filter, they would pop in the air. If they didn't pop, that's a superbubble!

I like 👍 ♥

Air supply is a major role in deciding what spraying system to use. I myself have settled on an LVLP system (www.homedepot.com/p/SPRAYIT-LVLP-Gravity-Feed-Spray-Gun-Kit-SPRAYIT-SP-33500K/204343921), as all I'm coating are small pieces and are in small runs/batches. Something I could run with the pancake compressor I already had, as making the leap up would mean spending a few hundred more to meet the 7SCFM most HVLP guns call for. I will make the jump after I outgrow the capacity of my current set-up, at that stage, I'm jumping over the HVLP spraying requirements and going straight to sandblasting range as that is another crucial aspect of spraying, looking at minimum 10-15 SCFM. That way all bases are covered. Another option for those with small compressors is Powder coating. You can do that with a pancake compressor. Also, Cerakote, which works with the sprayer I linked above. Now, you may be limited as sandblasting is needed for a lot of powder coating, but there's a mini blasting gun that works for small things like fixtures, jewelry, etc.

@Camden04843

7 ай бұрын

Is this lvlp system still available? The link did not work for me

How do we know how much to thin our finish? My dad is looking to get into this and wants me to do the research.

@katzmosestools

5 жыл бұрын

Check out the MSDS sheet

Really Good video. But, how about maintaining these guns?How do you clean these guns after each use? Thanks, Al

In a different video you recommend a mixture of 15-25% thinner. On this video, you used 50% thinner. What factors were considered to make the change?

Matt, love your videos and your products like your dovetail stuff which I own. I have a beard, like you. Where can I get that thing you wear on your face so I get a good seal with the face mask?

@katzmosestools

3 жыл бұрын

Rz mask. Cheers

There were many typos in my previous comment. Do you have any tips for making Alkyd Day Glo oil based paint stick to wood ? I tried primer. That didn’t work. I’ll mix the paint three parts paint, and one part paint thinner. I am thinking that maybe the paint dries in mid air before it even hits the word because it has been atomize to be such a small particle once it leaves the gun . Just a theory. These are for indoor blacklight golf courses in rental houses. They will be getting a lot of traffic. The paint literally brushes away like powder even after drying overnight.

Am I the only woodworker using a pressure tank to spray finish? All the same features, air, fluid, fan adjustment. The cost is a little more but it holds more material for bigger projects.

Do coffee filters work?

Do you still recommend this setup or a newer setup

great video(s), thanks. 2 questions. If applying a second coat say in an hour, do I have to clean out the gun or can I leave finish in gun, waiting for next coat? 2. can you save unused finish a use next time?

Hm, the item you've chosen (a bookcase or whatever it is with a bunch of cubbies), presents what seems to be a pretty significant spraying challenge. How do you spray the inside of all of those sections evenly? This is a glaring omission from the video.

What did you do to get the insides of the shelf covered with an even finish?

@katzmosestools

5 жыл бұрын

Hope and pray hahaha

@kwest9037

3 жыл бұрын

@@katzmosestools ...Don't you mean "Hope and Spray!!" Lol - Great video and information! Thank you for posting. K

@brewtalityk

2 жыл бұрын

apply finish before assembling

I have a lot of hvlp experience, none of which is on wood. So THANK YOU so much for this vid. The only question i have is if you dont use a mixing cup to measure the thinner and varnish ratio, would you be worried of an inconsistent finish or is varnish a bit more forgiving than paint?

@katzmosestools

5 жыл бұрын

Not worried at all. The thinner evaporates 100% when it cures so you're left with just clear coat. Being off 20% in either direction wont matter