When i look up the barcode it comes up for a delco fuel reg.

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine that. 🤣 Good info brother. 👍🏻

@georgediaz5293

Жыл бұрын

Also the barcode on the box, fake bar code has 10 numbers, authentic spark plugs box has 12 number.

I came across your video while researching spark plug blistering on my 3.6. I changed the plugs, AC Delco 41-988, at approximately 98,000 miles. Colors were good and plugs looked ok. I purchased a set of AC Delco plugs for her off of eBay and I distinctly recall the differences you point out in this video. At any rate, at approximately 114,000 miles, the engine developed an intermittent miss at idle. No codes were set. The miss started to get worse and the engine would vibrate at times during idle and in gear. Pulled the plugs and noted white blistering (plugs way to hot). I started to research why the plugs would be blistering. I couldn’t wait for the downtime to order plugs off of eBay so I went down to O’Reilly’s and picked up a set ($$$). When I checked the new plugs, I noted the differences as you described here. At any rate; great post! Now I know why the plugs I bought off of eBay were blistering. This information could have saved my engine and it did save a lot of research. Great information! Thanks.

If this video helped you out, make sure you share it so it can help others as well!

@mra55h0le

3 жыл бұрын

picked up a set of 8x 41-114 off amazon and only lasted 5k miles. was ridiculous, with misfires i wouldn't suspect the plugs until i hooked up the scanner and watched the misfire count.

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@mra55h0le Yea these garbage plugs are being sold all over ebay and Amazon now. If the price looks too good to be true, it probably is.

Thanks for the very informative video. I made the mistake and ordered thru ebay that same part number for my 2012 Tahoe after noticing it running sluggish. Replaced the spark plugs and noticed it loosing power again after a couple months so i pulled a plug out to inspect and noticed the center electrode tip erroded. I continued to pull the rest of the plugs and all where the same! I replaced the fake set with genuine acdelco plugs i purchased from the local auto parts store and no issues. I don't understand how ebay allows the sale of counterfeit parts on their website. The time and effort is not worth the couple dollars in savings. Lessons learned!

@TheBikemaster94

3 жыл бұрын

I usually buy the cheapest copper type for older cars as long as it's brand name. The thieves will have much less interest in counterfeitting those

@robertsieber8374

2 жыл бұрын

I had this exact same thing happen. I put a set of AC Delco plugs in my car I bought off an auction site. One failed within 50 miles, the center electrode was gone. I thought ok I got a bad one, it happens I guess. I replaced that plug with one from a local parts store. My car started to get an intermittent miss after 25k miles. Sure as crap I started pulling plugs 5 out of 6 the center electrode was burned to nothing. the surviving plug was the replacement I put in and it was in perfect shape. Lesson learned.

@patricklions9066

Жыл бұрын

Same story, same exact story here. Wtf

I also recently had no idea the fake plugs were an issue , but got caught twice on an EBay order. A set of Ac Delco’s for my GMC Sierra and a set of 4 Denso’s for my wife’s Toyota. Did some research on the fakes and, Presto. All the EBay sourced ones were counterfeit . I am lucky I didn’t instal any though, instead went to the local auto parts store for all originals. This is a very well done and informative video, which I hope saves a lot of people from making the same error. I won’t be making the same mistake on this Chinese junk again ,I can tell you that much.

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Glad this video helped you out!

Helpful. To know what to look for. It could explain my ignition problem.

Saved me some cash. like you said: If it's too good to be true on ebay, it probably is. THANK YOU!!!!!

Thanks! I'm glad i didn't jump on those cheap eBay ACDelcos. I knew something was up with them. Like always, if it seems too good to be true it usually is!

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

Wow 😮 ok now I truly see the difference. Nice update 👍✌️

Been waiting for this one, I was excited to see a hood on CC

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry brother. I had to figure out a different way to mount the hood but its coming.

The strange thing is that the real one didn't have a protector tube over electrode, I've never bought a plug that didn't have one.

@BadLuckGarage

2 жыл бұрын

What’s even more funny is the fake NGK plugs I’ve seen come with plastic caps and the genuine NKGs I buy usually just have cardboard caps. Honestly the caps are kinda a new thing because I don’t remember ANY spark plugs coming with caps until maybe 10 years or less ago. They used to all come either naked in boxes or sometimes in bubble plastic containers back in the day.

This why i try to shop at a chevy gm dealer when ever is possible instead of buying on ebay amazon i have seen this in the past for wheel bearings

I also noticed the real box has a smaller logo on the front where as the fake is more bold

Thanks buddy nice video

Just picked me up a set of 8 on Amazon for $8 and they appear to be authentic thanks alot

Thank you sharing.

is there a small iridium pad under the ground strap where the electrode fires to on the real and fake one?

Thank you for posting this. Looking at iridium AC Delco for wife's vehicle. Been tempted to buy ebay ones but had concerns about fakes. Who knows if those are even iridium. May just bite the bullet and get them at a local legit store

@BadLuckGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Even then you have to be careful. I’ve seen several stories of people buying the fakes for cheap then buying real ones from their store and returning the fake ones to get their money back. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Saved me!! Appreciate it! Damn eBay and their cheap prices. Shoulda knwn the ac delco was printed green on side of plug, all the signs you mentioned, 1995 on box and 100,000 mile.

@bounderchris

Жыл бұрын

The Amazon listing from the actual ac Delco store has the 1995 boxes too so I don’t know 🤷‍♂️

I swear this video got shadow banned by the Chinese. View count was going up and up and up and then stopped

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, I wouldn’t doubt it. Also the seller I got them from that was originally so cooperative stopped responding to my messages. After I shipped them back I sent messages for almost a week after the package arrived with no response until I threatened to report him to eBay. Then suddenly I had a refund an hour later.

Bought some on Amazon from a random seller at the "to good to be true" price. The box looks similar to your fake one dimensionally, but some differences. It does have the 2018 copyright text like your genuine one though, and all other text seems to match your genuine one. Mine are a different part number, 41-962. Pretty much everything you pointed out physically with your knock off plug matches what I bought though...

انا من العراق اختصاص سيارات الشوفر ليت احسنت توضيح جيد حول شمعات الاشعال الاصلي والغير اصلي 🌹🌹

Would be curious to see what the spark looks like between them

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I thought about it, but I’m returning them so I didn’t want to give the seller any reason to refuse refund.

Does this go for brakes as well?

Excellent good to know

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help

i just dont understand how they can get away with selling these, this is fraud plain & simple! you do this with shoes, purses, sun glasses you go to jail, so wtf

Does this counterfeiting happen on all brands? I am guessing that the reason is because a counterfeit plug is produced cheaper and sold for more money... I bought some Bosch branded plugs from an Ebay seller awhile back and it seems like they perform well. I am guessing that a counterfeit plug will give you ignition issues sooner or later?

Wow, those are close but definitely different! I guess nothing is safe from being copied

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I had a feeling. Seller actually had pictures of genuine AC Delco plugs on the auction, but these are what I got. At least I can use this to teach others what to look for so it’s not all bad even though it’s gonna cost me return shipping.

had the same thing happen on a buddies truck

ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW....AND WOW

Good to know, I buy all my AC Delco at my local AC Delco dealer, dont want any Chinese junk. Thanks

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help

I’m pretty sure I got the fakes The pictures showed 2018 / 7yr boxes and 100,000 miles boxes depending on the pictures…tricky . They lasted a yr. Thanks Man! Saved me from doing it again. 👍

Thank you! Just got some off Amazon and found out they were the Chinese knockoffs… time to send them back and get some good ones

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

AC delco is not a manufacturing facility. They dont have an assembly line of parts being made. AC delco is a brand, they make deals with several manufacturers that make parts and if they have parts that they make that meets ac delco's requirements then they will allow that manufacturer to print their ac delco numbers and boxes.

@BadLuckGarage

6 ай бұрын

Hello @johnperez93640! Thanks for watching! I’m glad this video helped you out!

Whenever this type of stuff happens to me I'd be outside like "this fake piece of crap" as I'm throwing them into the woods..

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

Gotta be careful with ebay 😳

Thanks gyna

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

“Gyna!” 🤣

MAN THABKS

Bro thankyou so much!! I had a set of 8 saved on my watchlist to buy from eBay for $25 bucks OR BEST OFFER! I’m like no way can I get 8 genuine iridium plugs for $20 bucks that is way too good to be true. And sure enough I checked the pics on the eBay post and the box says 1995 and the plugs have those little plastic covers!! This was mad helpful!! I think they make fake NGKs too!

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

They make knockoffs of everything now from spark plugs to wheel bearing ups to hydraulic lifters. It’s getting harder and harder to decent the real from the knockoffs anymore. But what’s even worse is the quality control on the genuine parts has declined so far over the last few years that the failure rates of the genuine parts are almost as high as the knockoffs now. It’s a crazy world we’re living in.

@permabulk1454

Жыл бұрын

@@BadLuckGarage you couldn’t be more accurate. That is so sad bro.. and I drive a 2004 manual ls6/ls1 GTO and it is SO hard to find genuine parts and what not for my car. I’m always skeptical on what I buy and put into/on my car. Need more videos like this!

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

@@permabulk1454 I’m actually searching for rear wheel bearing for the wife’s 2011 Camaro right now and probably going to just get Detroit Axle bearings off eBay because the genuine AC Delco bearing hubs I replaced on my Avalanche last year are already howling again and they were 5 times the price of the Detroit Axle bearing hubs. 🤦🏼‍♂️

@permabulk1454

Жыл бұрын

@@BadLuckGarage you know I’ve actually sound decent priced hubs for my gto (300 bucks for genuine Holden) you just have to look on a car specific site. There’s a site called “MaverickMancarbon” or something along those lines that does GTOs, G8s, Cadillac CTS-Vs and then another site called “GTOG8TA” that has parts for those three. GTOs, G8s and 4th Gen trans ams. If I’m not mistaken dude the 2011 camaro is on the Zeta platform (which literally is the G8, Chevy SS) which is an original Holden car from Australia like my gto. Look up the hubs for the g8 I bet you they’re the same!!

I bought a few boxes of Iridiums from O'Reily's this past week --- and INSIDE the new boxes were a few counterfeit copies. I pointed out the plastic sleeves, thinner cardboard, rounded corners and bogus color blue and font on the bogus plugs. Nobody in the store seemed to care. Huh! I rifled through the rest of the same part # plugs and got myself a matching set, but I wonder who is gonna buy the fake ones?

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

Yea the cheapest way to get genuine AC Delco is to order fakes off eBay, go buy a set of real ones from auto parts store, then return the fakes in the real boxes. Boom, you just saved. $80. Someone probably did that and you got the returned fakes from O-Reilys. 🤣

@SurferJoe46

Жыл бұрын

@@BadLuckGarage You make a very good point --- better than thinking O'Reily's is selling fakes.

@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106

Жыл бұрын

​@@SurferJoe46Great just when I was about to go to advance an get a set u come across this comment 😂. Funny thing is when I have ordered like starters or axles off eBay an was wrong part instead of sending it back I go to advance an purchase the right part an swap it out with eBay an return to get refund back. I don't know who got that wrong part on the next purchase.

Is it the same for the wires and ignition coils?

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure there are tons of fake wires and coils on eBay/Amazon as well. But if you look through the build videos on this channel you’ll see on all our project vehicles I only use Taylor wires and whatever coils come on the engines I swap so I have zero first hand knowledge of fake ac Delco coils or wires.

I get mine from o'reilly's.. real ones, wow that's not right on ebay..

Ordered a Supposed to be OEM AC Delco crank passion sensor for 98 GMC 5.7 price was 50.00 because it was to come with shims there need to an air gap. All the cheep sensors were 12- 25 $ had no shims with there product. This was threw Amazon shit cones. It's the 12 dollar sensor in a ac Delco box no fucking shims. Everything crap now name brand means zip. Shit bought 4" DeWalt grinder for 120.bucks 6 years ago lasted 2 months bought 10- 14 color 4" harbor freight grinder after the DeWalt went down. I just killed it yesterday. Cutting a 80 gal pressure tank in half to get it out of the pump house.by myself.to put a new tank in.

AC Delco plugs NEVER come in packs of '8'. They only sell pack of '4' or single. If it is an '8' pack it is fake.

I thought it was because AC double sold their company to another company and they change their package in

@BadLuckGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Packaging may vary, quality of product should not. If someone is selling $80 sets of plugs for $15 when the manufacturers cost is double that, common sense has to be used.

Did they work though..

@BadLuckGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Not for me

Ebay strikes again sold me fake ac delco sparkplug wires they melted in three mins! Lucky i went for a test drive before taking straight to work next morning and now after looking at this i 100% installed thoose fake plugs! Ebay is turning a blind eye to this and should be held accountable. Now i have to eat the cost of this plus the wait time on the first set of plugs and wires to get here the install the burn down the uninstall of melted wires on plugs fml bullsheit

Damn Chinese trying to fuck up our Chevys !!!

What about the injectors?

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

What about them?

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

@Jimmy S I’m still trying to figure out how this guy got on injectors while watching a spark plug video. Of course I’ve got people on my LS swap Tachometer video asking me questions about fixing the speedometer on their Hyundai’s so I can’t say I’m surprised.

Maybe there just new old stock?

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. They’re 100% fake. Even my original plugs from 2007 had the markings described. That’s what tipped me off in the first place.

Easiest way to spot fake is: take yours and compare it to new one you’ll know right away if is fake…

@BadLuckGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Unless you’re upgrading and don’t have the exact same plug. Then you can use this video. 😉

I'd think the one on the right is real because I don't know any plug that is fake comes with plastic to protect the plug. Only chinese stuff is always cheaping out on protection.

@BadLuckGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Well now you know. 😉

Because they are different they are counterfeit?!?!? Maybe just old stock from “1995” that someone bought up and sold on Flea Bay. Not sure why someone would counterfeit a plug that cost $6 when they could counterfeit something with a higher profit return

@BadLuckGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Glad this video helped you out!

These fake will show up very quickly on a air cooled engines I know for sure

AC Delco plugs are rebranded NGKs

@cup_and_cone

8 ай бұрын

No. It depends on the plug model. These 110's are made by Denso.

@Toolaholic7

8 ай бұрын

@@cup_and_cone Most are made by NGK

They superseded original part number to 41-162

@BadLuckGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Correct and there are plenty of counterfeit 162s floating around as well.

@cup_and_cone

8 ай бұрын

The new 162s are made by NGK, the 110s are made by Denso. Ironically, the 110 is still in production. Not sure why GM made the switch...maybe it was an attempt to avoid all the 110 fakes, but didn't work out.