How To Sidechain Kick And Bass Like A NINJA 🥷

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Here's how to mix kick and bass/808 with surgical sidechain ducking! Multiband sidechaining is a ninja technique for locking in in your low end, without obvious pumping caused by regular sidechain compression.
Plugin used in the video: ShaperBox 3's VolumeShaper
Try or buy Cableguys ShaperBox: www.cableguys.com/shaperbox.html

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  • @fgrey-
    @fgrey-11 ай бұрын

    Shaperbox is such a lifesaver

  • @RedHunterOfficial

    @RedHunterOfficial

    11 ай бұрын

    Kickstart

  • @Ezerlate

    @Ezerlate

    10 ай бұрын

    @@RedHunterOfficial Nah mate this is Shaperbox not kickstart.

  • @marcelszekowski315

    @marcelszekowski315

    10 ай бұрын

    I dont have it 😢

  • @jeffh4581

    @jeffh4581

    10 ай бұрын

    Doable in your native daw. At least flp

  • @HAZARDOUS88

    @HAZARDOUS88

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@marcelszekowski315It's pretty cheap

  • @Terminalbeats
    @Terminalbeats11 ай бұрын

    That loop is CRAZY 🔥

  • @silvio2462

    @silvio2462

    11 ай бұрын

    is a splice sample, THE_KOUNT_81_drum_loop_handdrum_upbeat

  • @mauhu
    @mauhu10 ай бұрын

    The “extreme pumping” actually sounded pretty good

  • @Cableguys

    @Cableguys

    10 ай бұрын

    Agreed! In fact, I used the same bass but with obvious pumping for a B section later on :)

  • @aako-dd1ly

    @aako-dd1ly

    2 ай бұрын

    I like pumping sometimes. Sometimes not

  • @reznov2310

    @reznov2310

    11 күн бұрын

    @@Cableguysalways forgetting that there is a and b. Great tip btw 👍👍👍

  • @ClementBaudoin
    @ClementBaudoin10 ай бұрын

    I like when the bass have that stutter effect, so i'll keep doin the old fashion way, it's not like anyone other than me like the shit i make anyway

  • @scottwilson8978
    @scottwilson89789 ай бұрын

    This is a really good tip. He gives us better tips in a minute than almost every 20 minute explanation I've ever watched. Love shaper box. Game changer for me.

  • @buttbanger7102

    @buttbanger7102

    18 күн бұрын

    He’s trying to sell you a product. It’s not a bad product but there are free alternatives.

  • @DIOhits

    @DIOhits

    3 күн бұрын

    Is there a free fl studio plugin that can do this?

  • @HarryDeeProductions
    @HarryDeeProductions10 ай бұрын

    bro your a legend. not only you buy the plugins but get life time advice in how to take your music game to levels beyond. keep up the great work champ. legendary

  • @jackpepperpwb
    @jackpepperpwb8 ай бұрын

    I've been doing this with Peak Controller and an EQ in Fl Studios for years. Same technique, never found a more flexible one.

  • @collinschepers6080
    @collinschepers60807 ай бұрын

    Invisible sidechaining aka multiband sidechaining which can be done with the multiband compressor built into Ableton for anyone without shaperbox

  • @BassLove91
    @BassLove917 ай бұрын

    That snippet of the beat is sooooo good 🔥

  • @nautika5771
    @nautika577111 ай бұрын

    Again such a sick beat 🔥

  • @MitchellLawlerMusic

    @MitchellLawlerMusic

    5 ай бұрын

    my first thought too. so hard

  • @bennguyen4409
    @bennguyen44093 ай бұрын

    DUDE! I’ve been looking for this exact technique for weeks to understand how my favorite producers have kicks and basses that don’t clash but aren’t pumping. Thanks for sharing as always! 🙏

  • @_TheViewer_
    @_TheViewer_11 ай бұрын

    Katana Kick cutting through the Samurai Bass, alright 👌🥳

  • @bcrtrx
    @bcrtrx9 ай бұрын

    haven't tried shaperbox but it looks convenient. can achieve a similar affect with sidechain eq/ multiband compression. I saw some ppl asking how to use the low end as the trigger,, if your eq/comp dont have an internal sidechain filter, you can make a send for your drum loop and low-pass to isolate the kick as your side signal

  • @Blepherk
    @Blepherk2 ай бұрын

    We’ve been spending our crazy hours learning mixing, twisting knobs and has this belief analog plugins are the secret. However after a decade, i just realized that all the process before mixing is the one that really makes the 90% of the song good. This video for example, this is not mixing, rather, sound designing. We should tailor our sounds already like we don’t need mixing. The choice of eliminating dozens of sounds or deciding when theyll play together rather than EQ masking a ton of them, this is also not mixing but its arrangement.

  • @davemac1648
    @davemac164811 ай бұрын

    I don't use Shaperbox, but have been doing this for a long time if I don't want obvious 'pump'. There are many ways to accomplish this & it can be applied to anywhere in the frequency range on any elements that are conflicting.. done subtlety, the whole song gently pumps too 😎

  • @AudioReplica2023

    @AudioReplica2023

    6 ай бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @nahh2114
    @nahh21149 ай бұрын

    using subwoofers will always result in better mixing for low-end in my experience, when I use headphone, the kick sometimes just too loud when playing on a subs, or it's just my preference😊.

  • @tundramusicproduction
    @tundramusicproduction11 ай бұрын

    You’re convincing me day by day that I need to upgrade to shaperbox 3 man…

  • @bencawood

    @bencawood

    11 ай бұрын

    Kickstart 2 is good, and it's only $15

  • @AudioReplica2023
    @AudioReplica20236 ай бұрын

    People love this pumping effect because is great to be honest ..makes it more exciting basically ... But I think its more exciting making a better arrangement decision because you still can get a nice and punchy relationship between those two elements without having to obligate the bass go down when kick hits. Wha I hear is basically it gave the bass the grove that was missing , something that could be done from the beginning. Sidechain has became the easy way to not bother producing and go straight to mixing. Lets face it we all want that subs down there shaking the entire building but also the kick breaking the basement ..but nobody wants to sit ,analyze and create . Just keep throwing beats and loops everywhere ...we fix it in the mix mentality.

  • @EricBishard
    @EricBishard7 ай бұрын

    This is one of my favorite features of shaperbox

  • @grandhustle8711
    @grandhustle871111 ай бұрын

    That‘s amazing being able to sidechain only certain frequencies

  • @Meminjo

    @Meminjo

    11 ай бұрын

    In Ableton you have an EQ built into your compressor exactly for this kind of stuff

  • @JamieSolan

    @JamieSolan

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@Meminjo thats not the same thing as this. Thats a detection EQ where as this is only compressing the lows.

  • @nicorentzsch9946

    @nicorentzsch9946

    11 ай бұрын

    @@JamieSolan you can easily build a dry/wet rack, apply LP to the Wet and Sidechain afterwards.

  • @gisellegisellegiselle

    @gisellegisellegiselle

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@nicorentzsch9946is there a video you like that explains this?

  • @Meminjo

    @Meminjo

    11 ай бұрын

    @@JamieSolan i purposefully spread misinformation online

  • @aymaneeljahrani2280
    @aymaneeljahrani228012 күн бұрын

    Facts : mixing kick and bass is the easiest thing if you choose the right sounds.

  • @daanothoff
    @daanothoff10 ай бұрын

    When I started making music like 20 ago, I could not understand why there was not a way to specifically side chain a certain frequency band. Only the whole thing. Then, years later things like Fabfilter and Waves F6 came out where I was finally able to do exactly that.

  • @hurricane9762
    @hurricane9762Ай бұрын

    Thats hard🔥...minus the tip that actually goes hard...love to hear the full beat

  • @darkskinwhite
    @darkskinwhite10 ай бұрын

    bro wtf are those drums 🤦‍♂️🔥🔥🔥

  • @dglassb

    @dglassb

    7 ай бұрын

    Sounds like a drum loop from splice made by the kount.

  • @rikartsenz
    @rikartsenz10 ай бұрын

    That beat hard af

  • @SummerTriangle
    @SummerTriangle4 ай бұрын

    Sidechain it's the key!

  • @Nemouschinten
    @Nemouschinten5 ай бұрын

    shaperbox compressor is my go to sidechain plugin because it has Hold option which is cool and this freqeuncy band setting

  • @ajahncodar
    @ajahncodar11 ай бұрын

    Thank you cable guy 🙏

  • @Cableguys

    @Cableguys

    11 ай бұрын

    You're welcome! 👍

  • @davemedallion
    @davemedallion4 ай бұрын

    First time I have seen this technique for enhanced ducking. Certainly never seen the feature on any of my plug ins.

  • @SacRoScz
    @SacRoScz7 ай бұрын

    Dude, I was searching for vst effect like this, I do it manually everytime. So much time savier ;)

  • @DSFtfghjfgf
    @DSFtfghjfgf4 ай бұрын

    the breaking bad x regular show crossover is crazy

  • @sentinelav
    @sentinelav11 ай бұрын

    This was already possible, but Shaperbox makes it sooo much easier

  • @ELLIOT8209

    @ELLIOT8209

    11 ай бұрын

    Trackspacer

  • @sentinelav

    @sentinelav

    11 ай бұрын

    Trackspacer is dope, works well alongside Shaperbox

  • @JohnMichaelFord

    @JohnMichaelFord

    11 ай бұрын

    I find shaperbox to be cleaner than trackspacer

  • @Reggi_Sample

    @Reggi_Sample

    8 ай бұрын

    Lol you realise there are 100s of apps for this including those native to your daw

  • @sentinelav

    @sentinelav

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Reggi_Sample Of course, I'd dare say that most DAWs have native plugins that cover 80-90% of what's commercially available. People often buy plugins not for core functionality but for usability and flavour, and Shaperbox is no exception for me. The interface permits a very unified way to get several time-based effects happening in tandem, and I find it much more conducive to creative production than my native automation tools.

  • @IanSolano
    @IanSolano11 ай бұрын

    This is such a great tip!

  • @mr.justice3220
    @mr.justice32204 ай бұрын

    Sounds so good ......

  • @adamarmstrong9408
    @adamarmstrong940810 ай бұрын

    I love shaper box ,I've started using it more and more now! Very versatile!

  • @Cableguys

    @Cableguys

    10 ай бұрын

    That's awesome. Enjoy!

  • @bzwMomobzw7
    @bzwMomobzw710 ай бұрын

    The pumping actually sounds fire

  • @seveomusic
    @seveomusic5 ай бұрын

    That is fascinating.

  • @remiab805
    @remiab8059 ай бұрын

    Shaper box is such a useful tool

  • @rodnee2340
    @rodnee23409 ай бұрын

    I like the pump. But that is a great tip if the bass flow is more appropriate.

  • @jettaboi2k
    @jettaboi2k11 ай бұрын

    ShaperBox is so Powerful!

  • @Corleone01_
    @Corleone01_7 ай бұрын

    So nice 🎉

  • @profben-music
    @profben-music14 күн бұрын

    Nice 👍🏻

  • @NotPro09
    @NotPro099 ай бұрын

    That's actually work! Thanks cableguys❤

  • @Cableguys

    @Cableguys

    9 ай бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @awabmekkiz1261
    @awabmekkiz126111 ай бұрын

    Love the drums loop 😊

  • @1lI1l1Il
    @1lI1l1Il6 ай бұрын

    So, now i have to try that with a bunch of Hardware EQ and Comp 😂

  • @MarcoPolux
    @MarcoPolux16 сағат бұрын

    is this the same as Filter Shaper? it seems so. Please, let me know the difference so I get this one also.... I bought the whole ShaperBox 3 and I love it 👍 👍 👍

  • @induhgo_
    @induhgo_5 ай бұрын

    You the best

  • @mystikrebel1089
    @mystikrebel108911 ай бұрын

    brilliant tip !

  • @Damlog
    @Damlog7 ай бұрын

    Sidechaine is goated

  • @alanrossze2873
    @alanrossze287311 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot man💚

  • @Cableguys

    @Cableguys

    11 ай бұрын

    No problem at all! 👍

  • @us7876
    @us787610 ай бұрын

    I usually do this manually on grossbeat then turning the fx down to 75%😭 those are some nice features

  • @coastmalone
    @coastmalone11 ай бұрын

    Fire track too

  • @S.ARIF_2020
    @S.ARIF_20206 ай бұрын

    Dang this is really nice

  • @Cableguys

    @Cableguys

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @tontonder8271
    @tontonder82716 ай бұрын

    Or use souds that fit each other and a eq

  • @ChaceBonanno
    @ChaceBonanno8 ай бұрын

    I send the drums to an aux, then hpf, then use that aux as a trigger for a low shelf dynamic band on the bass

  • @lucaszecat

    @lucaszecat

    7 ай бұрын

    You duck your bass with the whole hpf signal from the aux drums ? Why do you prefer to trigger you bass low shelf with with a bassless signal ?

  • @jamesrobinson529
    @jamesrobinson52911 ай бұрын

    Super Tip!

  • @ddeafner
    @ddeafner11 ай бұрын

    Yeah I need to get this plugin

  • @systemcheck2769

    @systemcheck2769

    3 ай бұрын

    You can do this for free with TDR Nova or any dynamic EQ plugin.

  • @patrickkeane4507
    @patrickkeane45078 ай бұрын

    You can do this with a free plugin called TDR Nova

  • @launchpadmcquack98
    @launchpadmcquack987 ай бұрын

    You can also just make the shape actually fit the kick and buy yourself a snappier kick transient in the process.

  • @filippsik5258
    @filippsik525810 ай бұрын

    i do exactly the same with multiband compressor

  • @norwardradtke1361
    @norwardradtke13616 ай бұрын

    Sometimes I low pass wavesfactory trackspacer to do this same thing

  • @omerfrenkel2325
    @omerfrenkel232518 күн бұрын

    Super cool. What software is that?

  • @NoneDead21
    @NoneDead219 ай бұрын

    Shaper is a great lfo tool

  • @sh-kw2ox
    @sh-kw2ox11 ай бұрын

    Awesome😊

  • @AnnabelOphelia
    @AnnabelOpheliaАй бұрын

    back in the days edm producers used to talk about SIDECHAIN-COMPRESSON as some alien shit.

  • @Cableguys

    @Cableguys

    Ай бұрын

    That's true - it's a lot more common and understood today!🛸👽

  • @pineappleman570
    @pineappleman57011 ай бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @GardensoftheAncientsHerbal
    @GardensoftheAncientsHerbal7 ай бұрын

    Idk idve kept that ducking sounded good

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai6 ай бұрын

    Now to figure out how to do this in Caustic 🤔

  • @Zerbasst
    @Zerbasst7 ай бұрын

    or get something like trackspacer ^^

  • @StellarWorks2023
    @StellarWorks20239 ай бұрын

    Noice!

  • @Aryeh487
    @Aryeh48711 ай бұрын

    Track sounds elite. Where can I find it

  • @KingDaveTV
    @KingDaveTV10 ай бұрын

    is this from a longer video? I would like to see how you select the kick as the trigger

  • @j-jack1365
    @j-jack13656 ай бұрын

    I was wondering about how this band splitting feature handle the phase, are the crossovers linear?

  • @altermore
    @altermore8 ай бұрын

    Fire beat 😮🧯What is it? And take my like 👍

  • @tijesunioyeyemi2296
    @tijesunioyeyemi229610 ай бұрын

    nice

  • @Pablosko611
    @Pablosko6114 ай бұрын

    Is there an easy way to adjust the input signal of the drum break so that just the kick would trigger the sidechain with shaperbox, or is it only possible with ableton‘s gate and other workaround’s? Thanks!

  • @Secretgeek2012
    @Secretgeek20128 ай бұрын

    There's lots of words there that I didn't understand, but it sounded great! 😁

  • @Cableguys

    @Cableguys

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks 😆

  • @eyeque7
    @eyeque711 ай бұрын

    I do like this method.. but then I like trackspacer for this

  • @_cyrusdoom
    @_cyrusdoom10 ай бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @santiagosoto8739
    @santiagosoto87398 ай бұрын

    Do u think that skrillex use same kind of sidechain? , last house techno tunes sound crystal clear low end🔥

  • @ColvenMusic
    @ColvenMusic7 ай бұрын

    its also called EQ sidechaining you can do this by an EQ too

  • @SeouLifye
    @SeouLifye11 ай бұрын

    Fire

  • @chuckjay
    @chuckjay8 ай бұрын

    Dope

  • @crxyy6252
    @crxyy625226 күн бұрын

    Is this effecting the phase? Is there a lin. phase mode?

  • @mr.dikkens
    @mr.dikkens10 ай бұрын

    Is shaperbox similar to envelope follower? They results seem the same at least

  • @shreyasha9949
    @shreyasha994911 ай бұрын

    What tool do you recommend for someone who's starting off their music production journey? Thanks

  • @joshlambrightmi
    @joshlambrightmi7 ай бұрын

    Why not just use opposing EQ boosts and cuts? For example, boost the kick before 60hz, and cut above. Then do the opposite on the bass for a mirrored span of frequencies.

  • @shpoopadoop
    @shpoopadoopАй бұрын

    How would this work in with using MB compression at the same time on your ducking like I've seen many producers use before (combo of volume/mb compression)?

  • @mariogarcia-gt7zv
    @mariogarcia-gt7zv8 ай бұрын

    JUST OL NORMAL MULTIBAND SIDECHAINING

  • @PermissionToMeow
    @PermissionToMeow11 ай бұрын

    I saw you were at 999 likes, so I made it 1K 🎉

  • @Cableguys

    @Cableguys

    11 ай бұрын

    You rock! 👊

  • @lemonsh
    @lemonsh8 ай бұрын

    HOLY SHIT

  • @xaviermorel6352
    @xaviermorel63527 ай бұрын

    I guess i can do the same thing with lfo tools of xfer records?

  • @laradaily4973
    @laradaily49737 ай бұрын

    How do you restrict ducking? :O

  • @metabear333
    @metabear3333 ай бұрын

    How we doing this with stock ableton plugins (Live 10)

  • @iambadd
    @iambadd7 ай бұрын

    is this possible with stock ableton?

  • @dirkbusch4735
    @dirkbusch47356 ай бұрын

    Trackspacer

  • @dylanwynne-osullivan1720
    @dylanwynne-osullivan172011 ай бұрын

    You can do this in ableton by duplicating the bass and filtering the low end on one buss and then filtering the highs and mids on the other. Then just side chain the low end buss. If you want to hear the track I used this on it’s “DECADANCE - Dead Poet Society”

  • @Reggi_Sample

    @Reggi_Sample

    8 ай бұрын

    You can do this in ableton using Shaper

  • @sidp4987
    @sidp498710 ай бұрын

    Where can I listen to the full beat?

  • @joelodelholm3399
    @joelodelholm339928 күн бұрын

    How do I do this in logic?

  • @Justsomeonepraying
    @Justsomeonepraying7 ай бұрын

    Whats the free version of this plugin

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