How To Sidechain Kick And Bass Like A NINJA 🥷
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Here's how to mix kick and bass/808 with surgical sidechain ducking! Multiband sidechaining is a ninja technique for locking in in your low end, without obvious pumping caused by regular sidechain compression.
Plugin used in the video: ShaperBox 3's VolumeShaper
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Shaperbox is such a lifesaver
@RedHunterOfficial
11 ай бұрын
Kickstart
@Ezerlate
10 ай бұрын
@@RedHunterOfficial Nah mate this is Shaperbox not kickstart.
@marcelszekowski315
10 ай бұрын
I dont have it 😢
@jeffh4581
10 ай бұрын
Doable in your native daw. At least flp
@HAZARDOUS88
10 ай бұрын
@@marcelszekowski315It's pretty cheap
That loop is CRAZY 🔥
@silvio2462
11 ай бұрын
is a splice sample, THE_KOUNT_81_drum_loop_handdrum_upbeat
The “extreme pumping” actually sounded pretty good
@Cableguys
10 ай бұрын
Agreed! In fact, I used the same bass but with obvious pumping for a B section later on :)
@aako-dd1ly
2 ай бұрын
I like pumping sometimes. Sometimes not
@reznov2310
11 күн бұрын
@@Cableguysalways forgetting that there is a and b. Great tip btw 👍👍👍
I like when the bass have that stutter effect, so i'll keep doin the old fashion way, it's not like anyone other than me like the shit i make anyway
This is a really good tip. He gives us better tips in a minute than almost every 20 minute explanation I've ever watched. Love shaper box. Game changer for me.
@buttbanger7102
18 күн бұрын
He’s trying to sell you a product. It’s not a bad product but there are free alternatives.
@DIOhits
3 күн бұрын
Is there a free fl studio plugin that can do this?
bro your a legend. not only you buy the plugins but get life time advice in how to take your music game to levels beyond. keep up the great work champ. legendary
I've been doing this with Peak Controller and an EQ in Fl Studios for years. Same technique, never found a more flexible one.
Invisible sidechaining aka multiband sidechaining which can be done with the multiband compressor built into Ableton for anyone without shaperbox
That snippet of the beat is sooooo good 🔥
Again such a sick beat 🔥
@MitchellLawlerMusic
5 ай бұрын
my first thought too. so hard
DUDE! I’ve been looking for this exact technique for weeks to understand how my favorite producers have kicks and basses that don’t clash but aren’t pumping. Thanks for sharing as always! 🙏
Katana Kick cutting through the Samurai Bass, alright 👌🥳
haven't tried shaperbox but it looks convenient. can achieve a similar affect with sidechain eq/ multiband compression. I saw some ppl asking how to use the low end as the trigger,, if your eq/comp dont have an internal sidechain filter, you can make a send for your drum loop and low-pass to isolate the kick as your side signal
We’ve been spending our crazy hours learning mixing, twisting knobs and has this belief analog plugins are the secret. However after a decade, i just realized that all the process before mixing is the one that really makes the 90% of the song good. This video for example, this is not mixing, rather, sound designing. We should tailor our sounds already like we don’t need mixing. The choice of eliminating dozens of sounds or deciding when theyll play together rather than EQ masking a ton of them, this is also not mixing but its arrangement.
I don't use Shaperbox, but have been doing this for a long time if I don't want obvious 'pump'. There are many ways to accomplish this & it can be applied to anywhere in the frequency range on any elements that are conflicting.. done subtlety, the whole song gently pumps too 😎
@AudioReplica2023
6 ай бұрын
Exactly.
using subwoofers will always result in better mixing for low-end in my experience, when I use headphone, the kick sometimes just too loud when playing on a subs, or it's just my preference😊.
You’re convincing me day by day that I need to upgrade to shaperbox 3 man…
@bencawood
11 ай бұрын
Kickstart 2 is good, and it's only $15
People love this pumping effect because is great to be honest ..makes it more exciting basically ... But I think its more exciting making a better arrangement decision because you still can get a nice and punchy relationship between those two elements without having to obligate the bass go down when kick hits. Wha I hear is basically it gave the bass the grove that was missing , something that could be done from the beginning. Sidechain has became the easy way to not bother producing and go straight to mixing. Lets face it we all want that subs down there shaking the entire building but also the kick breaking the basement ..but nobody wants to sit ,analyze and create . Just keep throwing beats and loops everywhere ...we fix it in the mix mentality.
This is one of my favorite features of shaperbox
That‘s amazing being able to sidechain only certain frequencies
@Meminjo
11 ай бұрын
In Ableton you have an EQ built into your compressor exactly for this kind of stuff
@JamieSolan
11 ай бұрын
@Meminjo thats not the same thing as this. Thats a detection EQ where as this is only compressing the lows.
@nicorentzsch9946
11 ай бұрын
@@JamieSolan you can easily build a dry/wet rack, apply LP to the Wet and Sidechain afterwards.
@gisellegisellegiselle
11 ай бұрын
@@nicorentzsch9946is there a video you like that explains this?
@Meminjo
11 ай бұрын
@@JamieSolan i purposefully spread misinformation online
Facts : mixing kick and bass is the easiest thing if you choose the right sounds.
When I started making music like 20 ago, I could not understand why there was not a way to specifically side chain a certain frequency band. Only the whole thing. Then, years later things like Fabfilter and Waves F6 came out where I was finally able to do exactly that.
Thats hard🔥...minus the tip that actually goes hard...love to hear the full beat
bro wtf are those drums 🤦♂️🔥🔥🔥
@dglassb
7 ай бұрын
Sounds like a drum loop from splice made by the kount.
That beat hard af
Sidechain it's the key!
shaperbox compressor is my go to sidechain plugin because it has Hold option which is cool and this freqeuncy band setting
Thank you cable guy 🙏
@Cableguys
11 ай бұрын
You're welcome! 👍
First time I have seen this technique for enhanced ducking. Certainly never seen the feature on any of my plug ins.
Dude, I was searching for vst effect like this, I do it manually everytime. So much time savier ;)
the breaking bad x regular show crossover is crazy
This was already possible, but Shaperbox makes it sooo much easier
@ELLIOT8209
11 ай бұрын
Trackspacer
@sentinelav
11 ай бұрын
Trackspacer is dope, works well alongside Shaperbox
@JohnMichaelFord
11 ай бұрын
I find shaperbox to be cleaner than trackspacer
@Reggi_Sample
8 ай бұрын
Lol you realise there are 100s of apps for this including those native to your daw
@sentinelav
8 ай бұрын
@@Reggi_Sample Of course, I'd dare say that most DAWs have native plugins that cover 80-90% of what's commercially available. People often buy plugins not for core functionality but for usability and flavour, and Shaperbox is no exception for me. The interface permits a very unified way to get several time-based effects happening in tandem, and I find it much more conducive to creative production than my native automation tools.
This is such a great tip!
Sounds so good ......
I love shaper box ,I've started using it more and more now! Very versatile!
@Cableguys
10 ай бұрын
That's awesome. Enjoy!
The pumping actually sounds fire
That is fascinating.
Shaper box is such a useful tool
I like the pump. But that is a great tip if the bass flow is more appropriate.
ShaperBox is so Powerful!
So nice 🎉
Nice 👍🏻
That's actually work! Thanks cableguys❤
@Cableguys
9 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
Love the drums loop 😊
So, now i have to try that with a bunch of Hardware EQ and Comp 😂
is this the same as Filter Shaper? it seems so. Please, let me know the difference so I get this one also.... I bought the whole ShaperBox 3 and I love it 👍 👍 👍
You the best
brilliant tip !
Sidechaine is goated
Thanks a lot man💚
@Cableguys
11 ай бұрын
No problem at all! 👍
I usually do this manually on grossbeat then turning the fx down to 75%😭 those are some nice features
Fire track too
Dang this is really nice
@Cableguys
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Or use souds that fit each other and a eq
I send the drums to an aux, then hpf, then use that aux as a trigger for a low shelf dynamic band on the bass
@lucaszecat
7 ай бұрын
You duck your bass with the whole hpf signal from the aux drums ? Why do you prefer to trigger you bass low shelf with with a bassless signal ?
Super Tip!
Yeah I need to get this plugin
@systemcheck2769
3 ай бұрын
You can do this for free with TDR Nova or any dynamic EQ plugin.
You can do this with a free plugin called TDR Nova
You can also just make the shape actually fit the kick and buy yourself a snappier kick transient in the process.
i do exactly the same with multiband compressor
Sometimes I low pass wavesfactory trackspacer to do this same thing
Super cool. What software is that?
Shaper is a great lfo tool
Awesome😊
back in the days edm producers used to talk about SIDECHAIN-COMPRESSON as some alien shit.
@Cableguys
Ай бұрын
That's true - it's a lot more common and understood today!🛸👽
Brilliant
Idk idve kept that ducking sounded good
Now to figure out how to do this in Caustic 🤔
or get something like trackspacer ^^
Noice!
Track sounds elite. Where can I find it
is this from a longer video? I would like to see how you select the kick as the trigger
I was wondering about how this band splitting feature handle the phase, are the crossovers linear?
Fire beat 😮🧯What is it? And take my like 👍
nice
Is there an easy way to adjust the input signal of the drum break so that just the kick would trigger the sidechain with shaperbox, or is it only possible with ableton‘s gate and other workaround’s? Thanks!
There's lots of words there that I didn't understand, but it sounded great! 😁
@Cableguys
8 ай бұрын
Thanks 😆
I do like this method.. but then I like trackspacer for this
🔥🔥🔥
Do u think that skrillex use same kind of sidechain? , last house techno tunes sound crystal clear low end🔥
its also called EQ sidechaining you can do this by an EQ too
Fire
Dope
Is this effecting the phase? Is there a lin. phase mode?
Is shaperbox similar to envelope follower? They results seem the same at least
What tool do you recommend for someone who's starting off their music production journey? Thanks
Why not just use opposing EQ boosts and cuts? For example, boost the kick before 60hz, and cut above. Then do the opposite on the bass for a mirrored span of frequencies.
How would this work in with using MB compression at the same time on your ducking like I've seen many producers use before (combo of volume/mb compression)?
JUST OL NORMAL MULTIBAND SIDECHAINING
I saw you were at 999 likes, so I made it 1K 🎉
@Cableguys
11 ай бұрын
You rock! 👊
HOLY SHIT
I guess i can do the same thing with lfo tools of xfer records?
How do you restrict ducking? :O
How we doing this with stock ableton plugins (Live 10)
is this possible with stock ableton?
Trackspacer
You can do this in ableton by duplicating the bass and filtering the low end on one buss and then filtering the highs and mids on the other. Then just side chain the low end buss. If you want to hear the track I used this on it’s “DECADANCE - Dead Poet Society”
@Reggi_Sample
8 ай бұрын
You can do this in ableton using Shaper
Where can I listen to the full beat?
How do I do this in logic?
Whats the free version of this plugin