HOW TO: Sensor Saturation, "Exposing to the Right", & Spot Metering

HOW TO: Sensor Saturation, "Exposing to the Right", & Spot Metering
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  • @domnuinginer2011
    @domnuinginer20117 жыл бұрын

    This is one of those videos I have to pause, rewind, play.. and then repeat. Thanks for all this compressed info, Ken!

  • @heliopolis0
    @heliopolis04 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ken, I constantly follow your channel but I went back to this video from 3 years ago (!!!). I have seen before but was still not deep enough on exposure. Now every single word and advice makes sense. Thanks for your help and support, it's really great value. You deserve every single dime to allow you providing us with such valuable contents.

  • @davidadrien4369
    @davidadrien43693 жыл бұрын

    You are a great teacher. The best photograpy teacher on KZread...

  • @Dune00z
    @Dune00z7 жыл бұрын

    thank you for discussing how a sensor isn't the camera and that the processing is so important. you're the only photography blogger I've seen that continually explains how important this is.

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    i am? i shouldnt be! hehehe

  • @petergabriel8448
    @petergabriel84486 жыл бұрын

    Your knowledge is amazing. Thanks for sharing. Spot metering is now set on my x100f, can’t wait to start experimenting and learning.

  • @tsdelaney
    @tsdelaney4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, Ken! My wife and I breed Beagles and most are tricolour, being red, white and black. It’s way too easy to blow out the white so that you could discern individual hairs on the dog’s muzzle, so I typically underexposed by 2/3 of a stop and meter off the white area of the dog. It’s amazing how many expletive don’t bother to consider this. Thanks so much as I’ve still got loads f room to sharpen my skills!

  • @AnandaGarden
    @AnandaGarden5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. GREAT help for brilliant young students and stupid old persons like me. Take it from a guy who learned the hard way: it really is simple. Look at the histogram and add exposure until the whites ALMOST butt up against the right (clipped) border. Then adjust exposure, whites and blacks in Lightroom. Your photos will look like crap in the camera but you'll be absolutely amazed how beautiful they'll look after a few simple clicks in LR.

  • @fatfro1
    @fatfro17 жыл бұрын

    I like your ideas here. Nice job Ken

  • @leroy5007
    @leroy50076 жыл бұрын

    Information this video is priceless, thank you Ken

  • @ishootbvi9749
    @ishootbvi97497 жыл бұрын

    Every video is a learning experience. It's like being in a classroom.

  • @fromfela
    @fromfela7 жыл бұрын

    That's it. you are the God of photography hands down!!!

  • @tw9535
    @tw95357 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video. Too bad for the people who won't listen.

  • @wesamsaka2437
    @wesamsaka24377 жыл бұрын

    ETTR helps you reducing noise as well, and your point about exposing to the highlight on the one side of the face and letting details in shadows disappear might fall under low key images which can produce nice results

  • @JohnCBurzynski
    @JohnCBurzynski4 жыл бұрын

    Good accurate information. Thanks.

  • @OzcarMtl
    @OzcarMtl7 жыл бұрын

    Shit, I got A LOT to learn and so little free time. This is a demanding hobby

  • @AbdulQadirKhan

    @AbdulQadirKhan

    5 жыл бұрын

    i feel same, its not for a novice like me :D

  • @davidromeo8334
    @davidromeo83344 жыл бұрын

    Average everything into mushy shit. Wonderful. Love it. Top man.

  • @tobyblackman9986
    @tobyblackman99866 жыл бұрын

    You crack me up👍

  • @bosmanka
    @bosmanka5 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. I looked for the highlights clipping point for my D7100 Nikon but i can’t find it in the specs on the internet. Do you happen to know how many stops this D7100 has?

  • @5sidedfistagon
    @5sidedfistagon7 жыл бұрын

    Been doing it for a while, blowing out the sky and getting a beautifully exposed foreground, or do the exact opposite and expose for a beautiful sunset with a silhouetted mountain. Just take control of that camera and shoot was you prefer.

  • @hoorayforpentax3801

    @hoorayforpentax3801

    7 жыл бұрын

    If you don't want a blown out sky, try a grad ND filter.

  • @5sidedfistagon

    @5sidedfistagon

    7 жыл бұрын

    i just bracket if i want the tonal range, i have a Nikon and the dynamic range is excellent anyway. Thanks for the tip, i was looking at them

  • @TheGreensticker
    @TheGreensticker7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Angry

  • @sarimner
    @sarimner5 жыл бұрын

    Spot Metering from the sun and you are FINE!👍😂

  • @chrisbailey4759
    @chrisbailey47593 жыл бұрын

    A.E.I.M.S, thanks Ken, lesson learned.

  • @SebastianMerca
    @SebastianMerca6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this! it is one thing to expose to the right, and another thing to expose to the right to your max sensor saturation! thank you! fucking hell this impressive new find

  • @SebastianMerca

    @SebastianMerca

    6 жыл бұрын

    FOR D610, I FOUDN THAT THE SWEET SPOT IS 2.7 ev

  • @joseuribe1552
    @joseuribe15525 жыл бұрын

    you've given more important info in this video than every book out there on exposure

  • @privateprivate3813
    @privateprivate38137 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! You've touched on this before, and I like that you keep driving it home. You said before, get out of MMM and spot meter damn it! I've been resisting, what with the bracketing trip I've been on, and learning EV comp. Running the D750. Guess I'll have to figure out how much to boost EC for the specular metered. When you do this, do the RAW images look to have a balanced exposure before tweaking exposure etc, or do they look dark, or bright?

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    you have an ISO invarient sensor, but blown highlights are blown, however you can tone map them in lightroom and PULL the highlights some……here be yet another reason why RAW is so important

  • @privateprivate3813

    @privateprivate3813

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the reply, Ken. I had not even heard of the term ISO invariant before. Starting to read up on that now. I guess you're saying, so long as I don't blow out the highlights, with the flexibility of the invariant processing, I should be able to recover everything. Just read one article so far on ISO-IP (ISO-Invariant Processing), but there seems to be some disagreement between people on which has less noise for night/low light when comparing shooting with base ISO then upping exposure in post VS shooting at higher ISO to begin with, but maybe it just depends on the processing of different cameras that use ISO-IP.

  • @dalibort82
    @dalibort827 жыл бұрын

    I have one question, on Fuji XT2 when is on spot metering does only metering work on centar focus point like on Fuji XT1 or on all focus points?

  • @kennethmills5470
    @kennethmills54707 жыл бұрын

    Turn your highlights on camera, then you will have blinkes on your LCD screen. When whites are blinking increase shutter speed until blinkes are gone then you have maxed highlights.

  • @watchme3593
    @watchme3593 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video Ken..... would you know the EV Range on de D4s?

  • @sumitagg1
    @sumitagg15 жыл бұрын

    In my experience, Fuji xt 20 seems to have about a 2.0 not 3 ev margin. I find that the matrix metering in the fuji bodies always massively underexposes. So I always use about 1-1/3 over the camera exposure. Also it doesn’t seem that fuji histogram is that accurate

  • @eddybcaliforniaadventures4499
    @eddybcaliforniaadventures44997 жыл бұрын

    Great video Ken..... would you know the EV Range on de D7100 (which i love).....

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    i didnt profile the D7100 for my light meter :/

  • @elevensixty2434
    @elevensixty24347 жыл бұрын

    What method (what do you take a photo of) for determining DR do you use or recommend? I work it out but would like to be able to "do it right" (did you cover this already?)

  • @grahamhgraham
    @grahamhgraham6 жыл бұрын

    One major annoyance is the wee JPEG screen at the back of my Canon showing blown highlights even though the RAW file is probably ok. Takes a while to have confidence to blow out the highlights but just enough to keep the detail for pulling back in Lightroom. I assume Nikon et al have same problem *cough* feature.

  • @TheClosedpalm

    @TheClosedpalm

    6 жыл бұрын

    on my nikon I go into picture control(standard) and bring down the contrast for jpg. this gives a histogram thats closer to the raw. I imagine you could do the same on canon.

  • @perrykline88
    @perrykline885 жыл бұрын

    Would you please help me? Do you know the dynamic range and clipping point for the Nikon D7100?

  • @isleofgreg
    @isleofgreg4 жыл бұрын

    I always wondered why the camera companies don't just make a "mode" on the camera that just closes the shutter right before highlights start to clip? You lock the ISO at 100 and choose your aperture based on DOF you want, then have the camera automatically control the shutter based on highlight clipping. I can't believe no one has put this feature in their cameras

  • @wujetz
    @wujetz7 жыл бұрын

    What is the range for mid to clipping point of the X-T1? It'd be nice to know... :)

  • @seamuswarren
    @seamuswarren7 жыл бұрын

    To capture a decent image of my nephew at the beach on a bright sunny day I exposed for the sky - so it would remain blue and not washed out - then added flash to take my nephew out of the (almost silhouette) shadow. Edit: From memory turned off auto flash and liveview auto brightness so I could see the actual exposure prior to capturing the image - sky exposed correctly and my nephew underexposed. Next I added fill flash and and captured a few shots of my nephew at the beach on a super bright day. The camera seemed to choose the correct flash strength for me... I think... from memory. I don't recall adjusting flash power. Took me a while to realise there are two kinds of liveview image. I wanted the liveview image representative of the actual exposure rather than the non-representative view. I have not used the camera for a while (RX100) but I think it was fairly easy to flip between the views. I tend to have a hard time remembering menu settings and prefer physical knobs and buttons.

  • @myhamish73
    @myhamish737 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Obi-Wan-Ken-Obi, Paypal pizza is on the way. I was hoping you would touch on ETTR and the D500 post mortem was incredible. Getting back to in-camera metering - some Nikons have a highlight metering mode - would that come into play for exposing specular highlights?

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    OMG really!!!! :O yes, highlight metering helps, but isnt all that accurate, it just typically underexposes, but you can dial in exposure comp on that too obviously

  • @gerben4875
    @gerben48755 жыл бұрын

    Yo Dawg, I heard you like TRUE sensor saturation. So I put an exposure compensation inside of your exposure compensation so you can expose to the right while you expose to the right!......or you can just stick it into full manual :3

  • @DiyEcoProjects
    @DiyEcoProjects6 жыл бұрын

    Question please: So um, spot meter for the highlights and stop down 1 or 2 stops? (thats either increase in number F stops or Speed increase) to bring the exposure to a mid point?

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    6 жыл бұрын

    your camera wants to turn everything into slate grey, including highlights, so, NOT down, rather UP.....but the amount depends on the DR of your camera.........

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    6 жыл бұрын

    stopping down means less light hitting the sensor, easier to think of it in terms of exposure compensation if thats easier

  • @DiyEcoProjects

    @DiyEcoProjects

    6 жыл бұрын

    ah ok, hmm... ill have a play around with the spot metering. Ill have a look into dynamic range of a d5600. Thank you, appreciate it. Its a long way from when i was doing film / 14 EV apparently.

  • @DiyEcoProjects

    @DiyEcoProjects

    6 жыл бұрын

    I see... EV is the expose compensation, difficult to explain shifting the highlights but i get the idea. This is counter intuitive for me using EV, im still programmed with Asa / F / Speed. hmm... blown photo on highlights shot on RAW, are not blown out shots in Post if you know how much range extends beyond the highlight and meter accordingly. Interesting... Looks like i have a Spot metering mission for a while >>> *thanks ken, youre ace!*

  • @achinthyaprem666
    @achinthyaprem6667 жыл бұрын

    Ken, can you give some tips on shooting astrophotography with some light pollution around. I shoot with the 35mm 1.8G.

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    theres no cure for light polution and astro work :/ if there is, id love to know it

  • @achinthyaprem666

    @achinthyaprem666

    7 жыл бұрын

    Theoria Apophasis any other general tips for shooting astrophotography?

  • @cjmarkrush3967
    @cjmarkrush39676 жыл бұрын

    What type of lightmeter is that and which ones would you recommend?

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    6 жыл бұрын

    best cheapest is a minolta IVF used ebay

  • @cjmarkrush3967

    @cjmarkrush3967

    6 жыл бұрын

    Theoria Apophasis thanks and I really appreciate it! Does it have an attachment for Spot Meter?

  • @garbygarb31
    @garbygarb314 жыл бұрын

    A lot of times in music, saturation and gain are interchangable.

  • @peterferry1646
    @peterferry16466 жыл бұрын

    Dear Sony and Nikon , please make more crappy stuff in the future to witness hilarious salty Ken...

  • @glendor2
    @glendor27 жыл бұрын

    I thought I remember you saying (in one of your videos where you drew out sensors on a chalk board) that sensor size didn't effect dynamic range?

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    it doesnt, pixel pitch does, (also efficiency and microlens design) …..however DX and tiny pixel pitch are alltogether too common and go hand in hand

  • @glendor2

    @glendor2

    7 жыл бұрын

    OK. I got my d500 yesterday. I'm getting ready to go out and take a few shots to test it. Yes, I did try the 10 fps first thing. It's like you say, "silk,sex, and sugar"!

  • @HarryYTM
    @HarryYTM7 жыл бұрын

    Spot meter on highlight with the camera light meter reading EV +3 or +2 2/3, works for me every time if I want ETTR. Besides, EV +3 is Zone 8, go figure.

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    cant do that with a D500 however :)

  • @michaelcarroll1747

    @michaelcarroll1747

    6 жыл бұрын

    Theoria Apophasis how do we do it on the d500 please

  • @idadru
    @idadru7 жыл бұрын

    Isn't Matrix Metering a form of the Zone System?

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    its all value calculation averaging

  • @scottsmith4145
    @scottsmith41455 жыл бұрын

    What the hell are SPECULARS?

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    highlights

  • @thedrew24
    @thedrew247 жыл бұрын

    OK then... amazing how much a lens can cost. lol

  • @hoorayforpentax3801
    @hoorayforpentax38016 жыл бұрын

    AIMS - Average Into Mushy Shit. Easy to say. The camera AIMS to make everything Zone V. Colour introduces a level of detail capture that monochrome doesn't have, and I have a rule of thumb that says "recording colour eats light". While not technically correct, it may explain why I can abuse colour film on the plus end and still get a good result (arguably a better one), while underexposing it does godawful shit that can't be fixed.

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    6 жыл бұрын

    ETTR is best for all

  • @felixgarcia603
    @felixgarcia6036 жыл бұрын

    Nikon xt2 lol

  • @stoneblue1795
    @stoneblue17957 жыл бұрын

    Another argument FOR running in RAW mode.

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    absodamnlutely yes

  • @daveisler3700
    @daveisler37007 жыл бұрын

    After watching this video my brain feels like mussy shit! Will I ever pick up my Fuji camera again? So much for trying to learn how to take better photos. Can you teach an old man new tricks? Please don't confuse me with facts. Just shoot it, but think a little bit more about it. Wish me luck.

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    7 жыл бұрын

    well just +2 on exposure comp and spot meter the specular highlights, its just that simple :)

  • @daveisler3700

    @daveisler3700

    7 жыл бұрын

    Give me an example, please.

  • @kainbre
    @kainbre3 жыл бұрын

    matrix s$it :)

  • @alfredv9902
    @alfredv99023 жыл бұрын

    Knock it off with the "speculars", use correct terminology. This is the ZONE SYSTEM you are talking about. You are talking about metering the brightest whites (that you want to hold detail in). Speculars are reflection (off chrome bumpers, etc....brighter than white with no detail)....and you never meter speculars. So you meter the white of a wedding dress (on the bright side), open 2.7 stops in your case, and you will have a dress with nice detail. You obviously know little about sensitometry, or you would know the difference. A specular can be several stop brighter then whites with detail.

  • @kathodosdotcom

    @kathodosdotcom

    3 жыл бұрын

    what nonsense, so you blow all your highlights? ROFL

  • @alfredv9902

    @alfredv9902

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kathodosdotcom You know lenses, but you don't seem to know the zone system. Speculars are a specific term, you don't meter for speculars, you meter for whites you want detail in, and open up appropriately (depending if transparency, color neg, BW, etc). You talk big, but your terminology tells me you are full of ego, but you're wrong. Look up any Ansel Adams, or other book on zone system. Till then, stop embarrassing yourself. That 2.7 stop inc I mentioned was YOUR value I stuck with.

  • @dronerjeff

    @dronerjeff

    2 жыл бұрын

    I find it interesting there's literally zero content you've created on your page and that your page was created right around the same time you posted this comment. keep up the good work!!