How to Run Liches in Dungeons and Dragons 5e

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0:00 - Sponsor
0:46 - Intro
2:15 - What is a Lich?
5:05 - Roleplaying a Lich
10:11 - How to Run a Lich
15:40 - Making a Lich the Big Bad
20:57 - Lich Combat Tactics
26:49 - Lich Inspired Adventures
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  • @Blandy8521
    @Blandy85212 жыл бұрын

    Joke idea, a lich so old it's survived multiple editions of DND and uses the rules from a previous edition of the dm's choice

  • @Blandy8521

    @Blandy8521

    2 жыл бұрын

    A serious idea, have the lich be a recurring villain that learns from fighting the party, maybe have the lich pretend to be a normal skeleton that the lich likes

  • @thetowndrunk988

    @thetowndrunk988

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s basically old DM’s like me. I feel like a lich sometimes

  • @patrickmcathey7081

    @patrickmcathey7081

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did this it was fun

  • @iakan6937

    @iakan6937

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Blandy8521 using that, thanks for the idea

  • @fartcriminals9623

    @fartcriminals9623

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or u could have a lich that breaks down through the fight, the first 5th is 2nd edition then so on

  • @Marpaws
    @Marpaws2 жыл бұрын

    Holy smokes. Just at the right moment. I started a new campaign yesterday and in the shadows there's an ancient ruler named the Invincible Emperor who is influencing things in the background. He's a lich.

  • @LordBrittish

    @LordBrittish

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope the people in your campaign don’t follow you on KZread! 😆

  • @Marpaws

    @Marpaws

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LordBrittish i don't think so. But now i'm scaaaaared. Haha.

  • @theresnoracelikegnome

    @theresnoracelikegnome

    2 жыл бұрын

    You think that’s a coincidence? You know Monty’s watching you, right?

  • @darklordmathias9405

    @darklordmathias9405

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Marpaws Why does that sound familiar to me...?

  • @Marpaws

    @Marpaws

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@darklordmathias9405 have you read mistborn from brandon sanderson ? the emperor is inspired from the lord ruler in mistborn the final empire.

  • @martyhoward6727
    @martyhoward67272 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Make a little series out of this!! Let this monster series go over all year big bads! Zombies swarms, hags, dragons, beholders, mind flayers, slaads, demons, devils! This will be a great series!!

  • @DungeonDudes

    @DungeonDudes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stay tuned ;)

  • @valerius88

    @valerius88

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DungeonDudes Yes, yes, yes! New DM here, who will be avidly watching these!!! :D

  • @ambrospike2

    @ambrospike2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good idea

  • @daltonstichtenoth8467

    @daltonstichtenoth8467

    2 жыл бұрын

    Slaads are terrifying. Would rather deal with an entire army of brainwashed adventurers from an Elder Brain than a Slaad infestation.

  • @cmurph321

    @cmurph321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fully agreed. This is content I can use. Even if you're not DMing a game with a lich as the big bad, it's like a masterclass on how to think creatively about antagonists. More like this please! Love it.

  • @poneal666
    @poneal6662 жыл бұрын

    I've had a lot of experience running liches in 5E thanks to a couple of different campaigns. One used a converted Pathfinder adventure with a crashed flying city with three insane liches lairing there. Here's some of the things I do" - First, since liches are level 18+ wizards, I give them 1 1st level and 1 2nd level spell at-will, and those are most likely going to be shield and misty step. - Second, many have the Boon of High Magic and have a second 9th level spell slot. - Time stop, counterspell, and chill touch are almost mandatory, and any lich I run is definitely going to have counterspell. - A smart lich uses demiplane to store its phylactery somewhere no one else can get to it. - Liches can't use simulacrum, but they can use a zombie or skeleton with some pre-programmed commands and minor illusion to throw their voice, making that give a monologue while they set up in position. - Liches can use project image to never have to negotiate in person. - Liches can cast gate, planar binding using a 9th level spell slot, and magic circle. They can summon and bind a fiend, elemental, or whatever for a year and a day to serve as a bodyguard in case the lich is attacked. Since a lot of these creatures can access planar travel magic, I usually have them just appear (as per the "come back and report" part of planar binding) when the lich is attacked. - Liches can place multiple symbols in their lair that trigger when a single word is spoken by the lich, or some object is disturbed or what have you. Since liches have great intelligence saving throws and resist necrotic damage, symbols of insanity and death are kind of mandatory. - Liches can use glyph of warding to place spell glyphs, some that trigger after the lich speaks a certain word AND then a condition is met. Enemy spellcaster by the door? Bam! Antimagic field right there. Oh, they stepped in? BAM! Feeblemind. Lich casts dimension door to escape the immediate threat? BAM! Meteor swarm goes off. - Shield guardian(s) are a lich's best source of damage soaking. Have more than one hidden nearby. Nothing says you can't have more than one at a time. And they store spells. Keep a few extra dispel magic or counterspell spells on hand that way. In short, NEVER play fair when running a lich. They should have complete control of their lair, have multiple levels of defense set up, and be ready to cut and run if things get bad, even knowing that they have "spare lives" on hand. That way when the PCs beat them, they will really feel like they've accomplished something.

  • @timothyperkins5838

    @timothyperkins5838

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice list. One nitpick is that phylacteries need to be on the same plane as the lich in order to feed souls to it using the Imprisonment spell, which creates a logistical nuisance if storing it in a demiplane (burning an 8th AND 9th level spell slot for each soul feeding and time spent traveling to the demiplane, and the security risk of opening the demiplane frequently), which increases the likelihood of neglecting maintenance and becoming a demilich. Additionally, if someone knows that the phylactery is in a demiplane then they may be able to connect to it with their own casting of demiplane.

  • @Miggy19779

    @Miggy19779

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the glyph one is especially outrageous as it's a broken ass spell. You could have 100 glyphs all triggering fireballs with the same condition (speak a phrase), insta nuking everyone. Take 800d6 fire damage thank you. Obv never do that lol but it just shows the power of glyph of warding.

  • @honahamomoru151

    @honahamomoru151

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent addition, the second 9th lv spell slot make all these high level spells possible through Glyph of Warding. And in their lair, they basically have 12.5% to regain their 8th lv or lower spellslot, 25% chance of regain a 7th lv spelllot or lower, every 2 round. So a day in their lair is enough to set up all of Symbol or Glyph of Warding, and cast Project Image 500 miles somewhere

  • @ADT1995

    @ADT1995

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timothyperkins5838 I have one lich whose phylactery is literally on the dark side of the moon.... Technically the same plane of existence, and liches don't need to breathe

  • @JoeFlamenco
    @JoeFlamenco2 жыл бұрын

    I had a lich bbeg that was stark raving mad. She had taken the path of the Lich to save the world, by betraying her friends and trapping them in various types of undeath so that they could sleep down the ages to kill a demon lord that would end the world if they weren’t there to stop it. It was a fun campaign.

  • @Marpaws

    @Marpaws

    2 жыл бұрын

    Classic "you don't know what i do for this world". Dun dun dun.

  • @JoeFlamenco

    @JoeFlamenco

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Marpaws As a dm I like to up the uncertainty as well and get the players to question whether or not the Lich knows what she’s talking about or is just completely insane.

  • @Marpaws

    @Marpaws

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JoeFlamenco it's great ^^

  • @couragew6260

    @couragew6260

    2 жыл бұрын

    I once purposefully planned with my DM for my Paladin to die near the end of a campaign. After the party tried to revive me, I pulled a plot twist on them by saying I wanted to stay dead, but to hide my body with a group of druids who could keep my body in pristine condition, casting gentle repose all the time. Should the world be in need of serious help, they’d revive me then. While dead, I’d spend my time learning spells and abilities outside of the normal Paladin skill set in the Celestial planes, honing my skills, etc. I was even thinking of homebrewing the Paladin into becoming a Hound Archon at some point.

  • @dolphinthunder2714
    @dolphinthunder27142 жыл бұрын

    My personally favorite thing to do is introduce the Litch around 11-12, have a hard fought battle with my PC’s maybe even getting 1 death. Then when he’s finally defeated he has them with the. “Oh you think I’m dead? This is just the beginning” then I have my BBEG set up for the next 8 levels, where they start learning about phylacteries, liches and whatever specific lore I have for that one

  • @thetowndrunk988

    @thetowndrunk988

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had a similar thought, where the characters would fight the BBEG “lich”, only for it to all be an illusion by the lich, simply to study all of the tactics of the players, then surprise em later when the real one comes out to play.

  • @dolphinthunder2714

    @dolphinthunder2714

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thetowndrunk988 exactly, I had it so my lich had been around so long it didn’t even think of its body as it’s own and would just use himself for the research without the need for the illusion. Since in his mind he genuinely thinks no one will ever get his phylactery

  • @thetowndrunk988

    @thetowndrunk988

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dolphinthunder2714 that’s brilliant

  • @willieoelkers5568

    @willieoelkers5568

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised a party at that level can take a lich. At that point it could probably open by dropping one of the squishier players with a Power Word: Kill

  • @DemoBytom

    @DemoBytom

    2 жыл бұрын

    As an alternative/lower level encounter he might be a necromancer with a Clone body ready, and campaign might be about finding his clones/preventing him from respawning before he completes his goal of becoming a lich.

  • @brilliantcut2488
    @brilliantcut24882 жыл бұрын

    I've been considering a campaign where the Lich is basically Ultron, where he's foreseen this world ending event and decided the best solution is to make everyone sentient undead

  • @Eggsecuter

    @Eggsecuter

    2 жыл бұрын

    that sounds somewhat similar to what im considering too lol

  • @Valdonkis

    @Valdonkis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bit problematic since undead require the living to sustain their existence.

  • @jeepersmcgee3466

    @jeepersmcgee3466

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Valdonkis what, as food?

  • @Valdonkis

    @Valdonkis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeepersmcgee3466 Yes. Liches in particular need a regular infusion of souls to keep from fading away. Vampires need blood. Ghouls need flesh. Etc.

  • @AngelicBeatdown

    @AngelicBeatdown

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Valdonkis Your idea for something isn't the objective truth, especially when the game literally encourages homebrew and independent ideas.

  • @shaynemross
    @shaynemross2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly as a DM for a couple of years now, I find this to be the hardest part. Making each individual combat experience feel different and running creatures uniquely. Very excited for this!

  • @spike315

    @spike315

    2 жыл бұрын

    Check out the book "The Monsters Know What They're Doing"

  • @varthalgamekiin4931
    @varthalgamekiin49312 жыл бұрын

    Adding to the point of the lich having a school to train heroes and prepare for an upcoming threat, I like the idea of having a warlock with the undead patron and they discover that their patron is actually the lich they're fighting. You could have a beautiful story that throughout the adventure the lich has basically given the last piece of their sanity to the warlock and in defeating the lich, he can then find peace and let this new generation of heroes lead the lands against the greater evil that is coming. Instead of it being a story of defeating a great evil, it's a story of saving a fallen hero from their own corruption.

  • @InspiringBard

    @InspiringBard

    Жыл бұрын

    We had a very manipulative and toxic player in our group. His warlock is now a deathlock of the big bad lich and is acting as a constant annoyance and hazard for the party.

  • @JJV7243
    @JJV72432 жыл бұрын

    Missing from this is - adding some of the sorcerer metamagics. Typically, I'd give late game power casters a couple of sorcery points and a couple of meta magics. Thematically, it makes sense that truly ancient spell casters learned how to "bend" magic more than the traditional mage, and a subtle spell, or quickened spell can really improve your baddies action economy and/or surprise the party!

  • @notchomomma239
    @notchomomma2392 жыл бұрын

    I thought it would be interesting to run a campaign where the party helps created a good lich to stop the birth of an evil lich. A kind of "lesser of two evils" story.

  • @davidbilich1708

    @davidbilich1708

    4 ай бұрын

    They created the lich to swallow the fly... I don't know they swallowed the fly.

  • @jamesd1184
    @jamesd11842 жыл бұрын

    I've got to say, Monty's melodramatic monologue detailing the base motivations for the lich, as a character, was pretty epic.

  • @joshualovejoy5305
    @joshualovejoy53052 жыл бұрын

    My favorite campaign I've ran so far was the player characters trying to stop a drow priestess from reassembling the phylactery of a previous Arch Mage. Lolth told her it was the only way to have her house ascend. It was a beautiful campaign and I'm sad we never got to finish it

  • @stuartdoig3418
    @stuartdoig34182 жыл бұрын

    I ran an "epic level" adventure for two of the players in my group who wanted to go +20. The final battle was a showdown between them and Acererak and an Ancient Red Dracolich. The Lich was trying to destroy a demiplane housed by the keepers of magical secrets because if they tore apart the foundations of the demiplane they would temporarily destroy the magical artifact used to create it, and then be able to access it in an easier way. As a DM, I rolled 3 straight crits against the bladesinger with the Dracolich, but thankfully he had mirror image up and avoided most of the damage. The next round I changed my dice cause they're superstitious and rolled another crit on the bite lol.

  • @Miggy19779

    @Miggy19779

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Dracolich has blindsight, he is going to ignore those mirror images :)

  • @stuartdoig3418

    @stuartdoig3418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Miggy19779 oh my god, how did I miss that. Well shit. Thanks for letting me know :)

  • @williammahler627
    @williammahler6272 жыл бұрын

    I love this, "how to run" is an amazing idea for a series that will greatly help new dungeon masters and those just looking to step up their games.

  • @LordBrittish
    @LordBrittish2 жыл бұрын

    If I run a Lich he will be a person who just wants to be left alone with his books.

  • @LordBrittish

    @LordBrittish

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then someone broke his glasses…

  • @mikecarson7769
    @mikecarson77692 жыл бұрын

    great advice, as always! oh yeah ... adding "chill touch" for a lich is perfectly thematic, plus it can be super powerful for a lich

  • @andrewshaughnessy5828

    @andrewshaughnessy5828

    2 жыл бұрын

    Quite right. Better range than ray of frost, a less-resisted damage type, no healing until the end of the lich's next turn - plus a skeletal hand clamped round the victim's throat!

  • @Krikario
    @Krikario2 жыл бұрын

    I was wishing to find a good source on how to run a Lich and as always, you delivered it with such depth and insight! Couldn't ask for a better source! I learned a ton about the vast world of D&D and I'm eternally grateful for your work!

  • @Heritage367
    @Heritage3672 жыл бұрын

    As you discussed the motivations of Liches, it reminded me of two characters from pop culture's who took similar paths. Doctor Strange in the What If episode where he loses his heart instead of his hands did it all to save the woman he loved. Davy Jones from the Pirates of the Caribbean films similarly has a connection to a lost love.

  • @InsightCheck
    @InsightCheck2 жыл бұрын

    Really excited to see your takes on this!! The BBEG of the current arc of my campaign is a Lich so I can’t wait to see what you guys mention :)

  • @nightmare2422
    @nightmare24222 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this guide, I’m running a slightly horror themed campaign so have this guide around will be great!

  • @widgetoc9062
    @widgetoc90622 жыл бұрын

    Fun times--I'm running a certain 5e module that just so happens to have a Not Altogether Bad Lich in it. My party was so tense and FLOORED to have made friends (well, at least not enemies) with something that powerful. Honestly it was almost more satisfying to run than combat!! Looking forward to see how their working relationship develops. This video definitely gave me some ideas for adding flavor!

  • @krispalermo8133

    @krispalermo8133

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ran a 3.5e mini campaign where the fortified village main schoolteacher of the children and teenager during winter months when field work can no longer be done due to weather, was a few centuries old lich illusion to look like an elf. Also combat was themed around six-gun revolvers and 15 bullet lever action rifles. Cowboys & sorcery. 14 year old, " Dad ! The school principle is a Lich ! " Teenager's father rolls his eyes, " Real, you should have figure that out two years ago." Then again at that time other than the old Planescape box set campaign setting, remarking that liches have to bargain with night hags for larva. No one knew liches feed on souls. So we had neutral good liches as mentors or PC in campaign.

  • @jeffagain7516

    @jeffagain7516

    Жыл бұрын

    Curse of Strahd perhaps? ;)

  • @widgetoc9062

    @widgetoc9062

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeffagain7516 Princes of the Apocalypse, actually!

  • @eliotoole4534

    @eliotoole4534

    Жыл бұрын

    Did that in Tomb of Annihilation (Any/all)

  • @alanrumney800
    @alanrumney8002 жыл бұрын

    Another great video guys. Really appreciate this one. It has great ties to what I'm trying to create in my large scale campaign.

  • @Coors.Banquet4819
    @Coors.Banquet48192 жыл бұрын

    I’m GMing the curse of Strahd and we’re about two sessions away from the final battle and this really helped me make Strahd have a lil extra kick! Y’all are awesome!

  • @guille787
    @guille7872 жыл бұрын

    I ran a lich that was a pirate captain, and the fight was overseas. The lich's ship was built with wood and bone and was a creature also fighting. The phylactery was the anchor of the ship. It ended up being ALMOST tpk, truly epic fight, and when finished, the PCs were able to keep the lich's ship as their own. The ship is no longer a creature, but I'm thinking of letting them turn it into a creature again by lvl 15 with some powerful necromancy

  • @fransgaard
    @fransgaard2 жыл бұрын

    This is my favourite episode of your channel! Not sure we will ever reach a point where we will fight something this high-level, but love the super practical tips for both the fight and the story.

  • @MisterTomate8
    @MisterTomate82 жыл бұрын

    We need this type of video for more Monsters, like Aboleths or Mind Flayers

  • @redolmon6909

    @redolmon6909

    2 жыл бұрын

    They've got a an "old" video called "Monster Tactics: Mind Flayers". Maaaaybe it will give you some ideas till you wait for a "How to run" one

  • @MisterTomate8

    @MisterTomate8

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@redolmon6909 oh didnt know It, thank you!

  • @beaumains1969
    @beaumains1969 Жыл бұрын

    2 ideas i had 1: if there have been any deaths in the party, bringing a reanimated friend to a climactic battle would be a great set piece. 2: a lich who has watched their friends and loved ones pass on might seek to create an immortal companion. If someone in or close to the party is chosen as their candidate, that's pure drama there. The lich can try to tempt them with promises of power, and if they succeed, fighting a fallen friend should make some memorable moments.

  • @aliceofspades
    @aliceofspades2 жыл бұрын

    All great tips and suggestions, guys! I'd love it if you made this a series!

  • @protochniy
    @protochniy Жыл бұрын

    great video guys, added this vid to bookmarks couple months ago to watch when i will finally start writing my campaign. really helps now

  • @GrumpyGrobbyGamer
    @GrumpyGrobbyGamer2 жыл бұрын

    Really fantastic episode. I love all the ideas, and I’m right at the beginning of adapting a campaign where the party isn’t good at all, yet not evil. Having them enter into a chess game with a lich to determine their fate sounds like just the ticket.

  • @melidor2198
    @melidor21982 жыл бұрын

    This was great content! Thanks so much for sharing and I hope there's more like this in the future!

  • @ayoung151
    @ayoung1512 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, Dungeon Dudes! I’ve been brainstorming since I first listened to this episode, and pretty sure I’ll have a Ghost Dragon riding Lich as the BBE of my next campaign. Thank you!!

  • @jessebrown4835
    @jessebrown48352 жыл бұрын

    I am planning on using a lich in my next campaign. This helped so much. Love you guys!

  • @romanboerma3213
    @romanboerma3213 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much i was looking for a great mastermind to put in my dungeon and this is perfect. I especially like the curse that every undead(including the lich)has. Love the video.

  • @lucasalbertini8505
    @lucasalbertini85052 жыл бұрын

    I just started to dm Tomb of Annihilation, and was honestly disappointed with how little Acererak actually participates in the adventure and how random the final showdown with him sees. This will help a lot, thank you very much! (Also, a warm hello from Brazil!)

  • @AlbertaGeek
    @AlbertaGeek2 жыл бұрын

    A lot of great ideas in this video! Thanks, guys!

  • @robertgalvez9551
    @robertgalvez95512 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see the next episode be about running a dracolich. I really want my party to fight one and I'd love extra tips beforehand

  • @marcdesnoyers1839
    @marcdesnoyers18392 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't have come at a better time there is one at the end of my game. Great video

  • @Kiyomoto657
    @Kiyomoto6572 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed this content. Those brutal Lich tactics felt like the D&D we played when I was young.

  • @johnrechtoris9796
    @johnrechtoris97962 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Your presentation of this in-depth creature concept with tactics and plotline ideas is thought provoking, informative and entertaining. I'd be very interested to watch more videos like this one from this channel!

  • @elementzero3379
    @elementzero33792 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Also, great timing. I'm in the early stages of crafting a "Nentir Vale" campaign that will potentially feature a cult of Orcus, a powerful lich (Magroth the Mad), and Orcus himself as threats. Even if things never take this path, the info here is so good. Great video.

  • @RobThePrincess
    @RobThePrincess2 жыл бұрын

    I love this. I'm now thinking of how to start a brand new campaign with a lich at the lead.

  • @robertymker8493
    @robertymker84932 жыл бұрын

    This video already has me mentally outlining a Lich who saw a great evil rising in the future and taking the journey to becoming a Lich to fight the evil. Only to become that very evil they foresaw, maybe an ancestor of one of the PCs which is why they thought they saw themselves fighting the evil.

  • @schecter006
    @schecter0062 жыл бұрын

    Some fantastic ideas I'm defo going to work in to my campaign!

  • @damianlynch1964
    @damianlynch19642 жыл бұрын

    Great timing- my table hits one of these next week!

  • @cabie58
    @cabie582 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing 👍 A goody-bag of inspiration, appeciated

  • @salvadortirado8746
    @salvadortirado87462 жыл бұрын

    This is an amazing video. I love your content. Now I want to run a lich campaign!!! Thank you ❤

  • @bryansyme6215
    @bryansyme62152 жыл бұрын

    I was planning to have a lich villain In my next story arc. and he's giving me some really good ideas as far as goals, motivations and minions.

  • @lilithvampyre1716
    @lilithvampyre17162 жыл бұрын

    I love the idea of this being a new series. The Lich is a favorite villain of mine but i have struggled how to make them challenging. This helps immensely. I can't wait for a beholder video or Mindflayer colony video if you guys decide to do those :)

  • @74gould
    @74gould2 жыл бұрын

    GREAT video!! Loved this! 😁 Very fun & helpful info for DMs.

  • @motionoutoftime
    @motionoutoftime2 жыл бұрын

    Very timely video, as I'm currently converting the 1e AD&D H-series of "Bloodstone" modules to 5e and running them for my players. Of course, those modules feature the a lich named Zhengyi who is backed by Orcus (whom the players must also eventually face). Fun stuff!

  • @christophershrimplin1849
    @christophershrimplin18492 жыл бұрын

    An awesome video, and a great way to look at the lich with a fresh mind to give it no pun intended a breath of life.

  • @brianwilliams9997
    @brianwilliams99972 жыл бұрын

    love you guys, great vid as always.

  • @Mike_L.
    @Mike_L.2 жыл бұрын

    Great idea for a series

  • @omega311888
    @omega3118882 жыл бұрын

    well done, as always, gentlemen. thank you for some great ideas!

  • @PallasAthenian
    @PallasAthenian2 жыл бұрын

    You guys always seem like you have so much fun with theorycrafting. I would love to play games in your group or one like it one day. Thanks for your content!

  • @Tristan_Shuler
    @Tristan_Shuler2 жыл бұрын

    Ohhhh I love this. Hope we see more!

  • @jamescahill9725
    @jamescahill97252 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I couldn't stop thinking of a certain Drakkenheim character during your description of the lich forseeing a catastrophe. Really enjoyable.

  • @tannermason4315
    @tannermason43152 жыл бұрын

    Well done guys, very nice content.

  • @robertmacneish4470
    @robertmacneish44702 жыл бұрын

    This is super helpful since the bbeg of my 3 year long campaign is a Lich. Players are coming up on level 20 and the final battle

  • @_bats_
    @_bats_2 жыл бұрын

    Great episode. My campaign's BBEG is a dracolich based on the Tome of Beasts Void Dragon. Should be plenty nasty once my players encounter it, but there's tons of meat in this video for cool ways to supplement not only the actual mechanics but also the character itself.

  • @stevenscofield5069
    @stevenscofield50692 жыл бұрын

    I literally was just saying how I wish yall would make this video this is crazyyy

  • @cbvestal
    @cbvestal2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent break down fellas

  • @tontonfritzl3580
    @tontonfritzl35802 жыл бұрын

    I just started to run "tomb of the annihilation". Perfect timing!

  • @bluespindash6298
    @bluespindash62982 жыл бұрын

    This is great stuff. I too am setting up a lich as a bbeg. He is the brother of the fighter who after time warping bs got them displaced in different eras in time. The fighters brother being sent farther back. He creates a warforged and leaves him dormant for a long time to look after the fighter(this being the cleric of my party) while he searches for a way to get them home. He was running out of time so he turned to The Book of Vile Darkness and became a lich.

  • @MrSpeakerCone
    @MrSpeakerCone2 жыл бұрын

    I was struggling to commit to a BBEG idea for my seafaring game and you've really helped me feel inspired, thank you! The crown jewel phylactery idea in particular is so fun! Suddenly there's heist potential where there wasn't any before. Also, I think I'm gonna put the lich on a ghost ship and have it act like a submarine? That seems appropriately terrifying for the players

  • @shebvixen
    @shebvixen2 жыл бұрын

    You guys are Awesome! I'm running ToA for my cousin and his pc is broken. We're having fun, but it's a pain to keep up the struggle. The tactics and especially the plot devices are perfect, since we're stretching ToA to lvl 20.

  • @robertdeveney8857
    @robertdeveney88572 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing, I wanted to add a lich type villain for my Grim Hollow game! 👍👍

  • @MaestroMagnifico21
    @MaestroMagnifico212 жыл бұрын

    the BBEG in my campaign is a Lich named Votic Death-hand who was pushed to lichdom because of his grief of losing his love. He would do anything to bring her back.

  • @zach415
    @zach415 Жыл бұрын

    A wizard who foresaw a great catastrophe in the future becomes a lich in order to prevent the catastrophe only for himself to be the one who causes the catastrophe that he saw all those centuries ago

  • @aaronrowand3172
    @aaronrowand31722 жыл бұрын

    Great timing. I’ve been building up my campaign and we are headed into the Tier 4 level. They don’t know it but Orcus has several powerful undead that he is sending into the realm. One recurring Wizard has been a problem for my players since level 7( they are 15 now) and he has become a Lich because he serves Orcus willingly. He is helping bring about a World Necropolis for Orcus to rule. This is amazing because You have given me so much fodder to finish the story. Without realizing it, I have set the groundwork for his madness, his undead minions and his style of arrogance in knowing he will win and the players are fools not to help him or accept his gifts. the whole campaign was built around Orcus. Thanks for a great video and a lot of wonderful ideas.

  • @VoiceNerd
    @VoiceNerd2 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome. Makes me a little bit less hesitant to run a lich in a future campaign. Might not happen anytime soon but it definitely opens the possibility for me!

  • @Calebgoblin
    @Calebgoblin2 жыл бұрын

    "Nyahhhhh everything I do is for the cause of eeeevil!" "Ya did this to yaself, Jerry"

  • @TyanFH
    @TyanFH2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I like the idea of a Lich as the number 2 to a Dracolich. Very different in my mind.

  • @bassdropyoface
    @bassdropyoface2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video will pair great with my lich and lich king

  • @PatricRogers
    @PatricRogers2 жыл бұрын

    This video is brilliant and wonderful.

  • @bristowski
    @bristowski2 жыл бұрын

    I am INCREDIBLY excited about this series! I hope to see Mind Flayers and Elder Brains sooner rather than later.

  • @joshualawrence2963

    @joshualawrence2963

    2 жыл бұрын

    YESSSS! Ugh, I found them such compelling monsters when i first learned of them and a bit of their lore. Super cool monsters 👍

  • @gregorytorres1728
    @gregorytorres17282 жыл бұрын

    I think my favorite moment in a campaign ever was playing the old Age of Worms adventure path for 3.5e converted for 5e when my Paladin managed to destroy the Dracolich Dragotha's phylactery. Awesome arc of the campaign and a great moment and plot where his phylactery was stolen centuries ago and hidden with a tribe of giants who were charged with defending it's vault. However through the years they've forgotten the contents of the vault and won't allow anyone inside. So the party has to either fight their way in or convince the giants' leaders. All the whole Dragotha's forces have arrived and are sieging the giants' fortress trying to recover the phylactery for themselves.

  • @liquidaria4454
    @liquidaria44542 жыл бұрын

    I admit I've always been at a loss on how to make a Lich come across as anything but the tried and true "I'm undead lets get all the power", you both definitely had some fantastic ideas from a different perspective that I'll be considering once I actually get the courage to try and DM!

  • @morrigankasa570

    @morrigankasa570

    Жыл бұрын

    I have an idea for an actually good Lich sort of like later season's William "The Bloody" aka Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but twisted as a Lich instead of a Vampire. Another idea is my Mountain Dwarf Wizard also is determined to achieve immortality (ideally some form of Apotheosis similar to the Tribunal from Elder Scrolls) but might have them become a good Lich as well.

  • @bywhiskey5789
    @bywhiskey57892 жыл бұрын

    Hey I would love to see a series around playing different monsters. My favorite monster in DND is Remorhaz. I am excited to see whatever content you are able to make but I would love to see some talk about these classic dnd, but a little less known monsters.

  • @deltad208
    @deltad2082 жыл бұрын

    Cool episode, although I am old school and only "3.5", you guys had some great ideas for a litch campaign, thanks much!

  • @jriggan
    @jriggan2 жыл бұрын

    Sweet! This one’s really on target!🎯

  • @adriangalan29
    @adriangalan292 жыл бұрын

    Jajajajajajaja, I've just started DM Vecna Lives! For 5e and planning to continue with Vecna Reborn, the right moment for this video!

  • @andrewfarmer6126
    @andrewfarmer61262 жыл бұрын

    So looking forward to this

  • @davidburisch9937
    @davidburisch99372 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video! As a DM I love this kind of videos! I want more!

  • @paladinpariah325
    @paladinpariah3252 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video as usual. Such great practical knowledge... Surprised you guys didn't mention Baelnorns... you seemed like you almost did.

  • @TheHornedKing
    @TheHornedKing2 жыл бұрын

    I know of another cool lich you could use for inspiration. In this old web browser RPG called Dragonfable (which still lives on on a launcher by the devs), there is a lich named Sek-Duat who ruled a kingdom for over 1500 years without anyone knowing he was a lich. He did this by faking his own death and assuming the identity of his son, and then later doing it again, this time assuming a new identity as his son's son, and so on, and so on. An entire line of kings, was just this one lich faking his death and assuming a new identity again and again, for 1500 years. That is one deceptive lich. Could also work for a mummy lord. Sek-duat and his kingdom are heavily inspired by ancient Egypt, but they do call him a lich in-game (except for in AdventureQuest Worlds, there they suddenly call him a mummy for some reason).

  • @JohnSmith-ro2sc

    @JohnSmith-ro2sc

    2 жыл бұрын

    That trick has also been used by Eberron (King Kaius in Karnnath) and Golarion (Count Tiriac in Ustalav)

  • @TheHornedKing

    @TheHornedKing

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnSmith-ro2sc Neat. I only knew of Sek-Duat doing it.

  • @bigbbrendan
    @bigbbrendan2 жыл бұрын

    I am running a dragon focused campaign (thank you Fizban's), this video gave me an idea for a Lich Arch-Villain that attains lichdom through dragon Grafting. The grafter enemies in fizbans seamed so cool and stood out to me but only have a couple stat blocks. There's so much potential there for some cool story ideas

  • @jeffagain7516
    @jeffagain7516 Жыл бұрын

    Really awesome vid my friends, thanks so much! I've always been a huge fan of Liches but as you've mentioned, without supportive action economy, they can fold like a wet paper bag VERY quick. You've provided some great new ideas regarding minions, especially the Fizban Dragons that I'm keen to employ. At different times I've used Archmages (keen on supporting the Lich in hopes of learning its secrets) a Death Knight, a Dracolich, lots of high-level undead as well as many different hordes but yeah, some new ideas are always appreciated. Oh, another consideration I've been meaning to try, is a troupe of Mindflayer Alhoons in service to a powerful Lich, in hopes to share secrets. That could make for a pretty deadly encounter. I suspect one of the reasons that D&D has consistently provided Liches paltry HP, is to emphasize the fact these BBEGs NEED support agents, so be generous in providing them. Also, no self respecting Lich is going into a fight unaware of every nugget of info they can acquire on their foes, so should be well prepared. Their phylactery, as you mentioned, should be a difficult quest in and of itself of course and one that should probably be c/o before even attempting the Lich face to face. Someday soon, I hope to get around to writing a campaign pitting a high level party against Larloch himself (in his Trollshaw home turf) but oohh man, that is gonna need to take some time to put together, as that Dude is the creme de la creme of Liches and could give Acererak a run for the title, heh. Well done! :)

  • @jokinjake1
    @jokinjake12 жыл бұрын

    Oh this is exciting I can’t wait for the hag video! I love the idea of a lich that is trying to end death. A utilitarian view willing to do anything in this goal justified by the countless future lives saved.

  • @user-dmiller
    @user-dmiller2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome ideas. Lich has so much potential

  • @thembill8246
    @thembill82462 жыл бұрын

    This is perfect timing. I'm doing Baldur's Gate Descent into Avernus, and I was planning to have the cleric from our previous campaign come back as a surprise boss battle, possibly as a lich or at least a demi lynch. He was a life domain cleric who have more of a penchant for burning things than for curing people. Is justification was at the fire purified those whose lives have been tainted. It's not a far reach to think that he got corrupted along the way and afterward, so I'm going to have him show up in Elturel since he's an elf.

  • @christopheracea5835
    @christopheracea58352 жыл бұрын

    I love how the dungeon dudes literally summed up the bbeg of the campaign I’ve been running for almost 3 years. I love fallen heroes and the tragedies that fell them.

  • @ThePrimateKing
    @ThePrimateKing2 жыл бұрын

    MONTY. That Lich/adventure acadamy idea is _amazing_

  • @Dragons4Dummies
    @Dragons4Dummies2 жыл бұрын

    HOLY CRAP THE HORCRUX IDEA IS SO GOOD, I'm SO gonna use this!!

  • @Miggy19779

    @Miggy19779

    2 жыл бұрын

    We already have this in the lore, Aumvor the undying has 200+ phylacteries in the form of human bones from a rival wizard he defeated.

  • @JimmyCas
    @JimmyCas2 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff guys! I plan on running a lich as a villain for a horror/gothic arc of my long running campaign and this is definitely solidifying my ideas! The campaign is something of a timey-wimey fuck about but I’ve been showing deeper lore and introducing characters through visions into the past and I’ve already introduced the necromancer tasked with making eternal life for all a reality. Eventually my characters will run into a city populated by sentient undead creatures who serve a lich that promises to keep them alive forever; even if they die, even after they die. The necromancer from the past has made certain deals and has found eternal life as a lich if he splits his personality between his true body, which acts as his phylactery suspended in a preserving solution, and his lich body which he maintains very little control over.

  • @thetowndrunk988
    @thetowndrunk9882 жыл бұрын

    Oh, The Dungeon Dudes got ruthless with this one. I love it!

  • @fanboykc9140
    @fanboykc91402 жыл бұрын

    I am currently running my 1st campaign as DM. It's based on John Carpenter's Big Trouble in Little China. The BBEG, Lopan, is going to be a lich. Should get to the final battle next week. Thanks for this video! Slanté

  • @DevonRiv114
    @DevonRiv1142 жыл бұрын

    This is gonna come in clutch, about to run ToA so I need this for Acererak.

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