the best part of betrayal is that jun is right next to the defeated enemies, so you can unveil and get the crafting recipe right away and drop the useless item

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

That's true!

this is my first league start and i found your channel the other day and youve helped me understand so much about all these league mechanics keep up thhe good work

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!

This was one of the best Betrayal guides I've seen, and it's up to date. I spent way too many hours learning this stuff before. This would have helped a lot.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind feedback :)

This was actually really well laid out man. Ive watched a few videos on this and yours lays it iut nicely and the timestamps were really handy fir the bits I already know

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Thank you, glad to help!

dude... clearest explanation ever. i've watched a million betrayal videos and always wind up just sitting there blinking. you have exceptional clarity. never understood a thing till i watched this video

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Glad to help!

One of the best if not the best guide for betrayal. thank you so much!

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Glad it helped! Thanks for watching!

Wow I always felt confused every time I try to learn betrayal but your video made it so easy to understand. Thank you!

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Glad to help!

Never understood betrayal until now, great guide. Gained yourself a sub. Thank you.

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Glad to help!

Betrayal to me is easily the most confusing content in the game. Thanks for the video.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

You're not alone! Glad to help!

@TheLumio

2 ай бұрын

Invest a little time learning and running betrayal in the upcoming league and it'll become extremely easy.

@eazye210

Ай бұрын

I felt the same way now that I understand the concept its far less like wtf lol.

i cant remember if u talked about it (52 minutes hot damn) but betrayal is a really good leveling strat since the dudes gives 100% more xp and the betrayal zones gives 100% more exp too, they are amazing for lvling gems and helping your frinds lvl up

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

That's true, Safehouses are good for finishing off the last bit of XP toward a level.

Thank you for breaking down this content, I never really understood is until now! Would you recommend going straight for betrayal or focus on atlas progression 1st? Thanks again

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Atlas progression is safer and will get you a baseline of XP and gear to then use on Betrayal a bit later on. Betrayal's good, it helps a lot with transitioning from early mapping bad gear to mid-endgame gear, but it can be really dangerous right as you step into white maps. Intervention encounters are particularly brutal!

I've been running a Kinetic Bolt Trickster and Bettayal has been pretty nice. Lots of xp and farming some scarabs too.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Excellent!

I have to disagree with you, regarding skipping the "Remove rivals" option. It can be really beneficial, when targeting specific syndicate members to get back on the board, if they are not present. Example: You want Hillock in your syndicate, but he cant be found on the board. Best thing to do is, instead of a whole boss rotation (so you reset the whole board), to do rivalry and try to remove 1-2 members so they can rotate with the desired NPC. Great video and really informative one for people with less experience with Syndicate. Mechanic with one of the best and funniest NPC lines in the entire game imao xD

@jhankhit1475

2 ай бұрын

The new betrayal rewards don't look as good before though. It looks as if you can just rush the mastermind over and over again since you don't have to pick out the correct agents in their correct departments and just cash out with whatever the rewards for the other agents are. Looking at you lot, Aisling grinders

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

This is good advice for players trying to min-max the Catarina rewards from their Betrayal board.

@valentinvitkov1239

2 ай бұрын

@@jhankhit1475 Totaly agree with you, but there are still good and interesting picks especially for day 1-2-3, where you can benefit alot, if you are available to position some of the members in correct HOs. Catarina is the number 1 priority no questions asked :)

btw: what are your opinions on toxic rain raider ? for start to start up with some heits , like comparison if you have tried that approach , i know thta PF is better later on, but im rly slow starter so i thought about raider to speed it up a little :P

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

It moves faster for Heist, and that's basically it. It's less tanky, deals less damage, and has less utility. It can function for that one purpose, and you can make it clear maps and do content with enough gear, but it will fall well behind Pathfinder. PF is also extremely fast!

@raka77

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening thanks mate

May i asked u what kind of class are u playing in that video ? looks like something with forbidden rite. looks nice paired with cyclone. do you have a build for that ? Best regards!

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

It's CoC FR. We haven't made a build guide for it, and it is harder to get going now due to the mana flask suffix nerf this league.

Is that cyclone build in footage playable for 3.24? Looks pretty nice,would be interested,looking at melee build guides for league and theres not many up at all

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

It might be. It's Cast on Crit Forbidden Rite, so even before the patch it was a high-investment build. Fixing mana usually involved a mana flask craft, which has been removed, so it will require some effort to get back to 100%.

So.. at 34:53, I see you interrogated korell instead of the bargain where it'll make korell and camera trusted. Wasn't the priority to make relationships (trusted or rival) so they show up more? Did it not matter cuz you were close to caterina which woulda reset whole board anyway?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Exactly right. Making relationships is important until you're about to spawn Catarina, and then it doesn't matter.

Is low tier jun farming worth it? Like in white and yellow maps. Did we get any info where the veiled orb drops - what ilv of catarina

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

We don't know if it's from a specific tier of Catarina, or if the chance is higher at higher levels, just that it only comes from her now. Low-tier Betrayal has a lot of valuable rewards, so it's worth doing.

I watched he entire vid to learn more than I ever knew ab Betrayal. BUT my question is, what is the song at 33:10 ish, I recognize it from Witcher 3, but what's the name of the song :(

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Glad to help! It's actually the music from Act 6 Lioneye's Watch (kzread.info/dash/bejne/hY5oltiMirKTeaQ.html), but the vocalizations make it sound a lot like the Witcher 3 soundtrack.

@temrenalican4570

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening Whaaaat?! This is amazing, thank you! :)

Thanks king love you

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

We got you!

this video clarified a lot of things, tyvm for sharing! One thing: Why removing the rivalries at the last map b4 Cat is not a thing, instead of releasing the npc? I mean, im not sure if the rewards would be good anyway, but, releasing gives nothing and once you fight Cat the rivalries clears itself, right? (im not sure) Gotta say, i didnt ever realise that the equipments shows which stats they're adding, same for the messages showing the rewards of the npcs. great content, gratz!

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

That's a good point, removing Rivalries in the map before Cat probably does make more sense than releasing, since you at least get a reward.

I didn't even know safehouses, or the final boss existed. I just kept killing the guys in map encounters for crafting recipes and thought that was it.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

A whole new world 🎵

first league actually trying to start by self-sourcing betrayal...was going okay, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. then farming while watching this, I actually had my first paradoxica fall...go figure!

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Happy to be your lucky channel!

I’m so indecisive on what I wana do on my maps

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

There are tons of great options available!

@yungdrila0197

2 ай бұрын

Can you earn a lot of currency doing blight ?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Oh yeah. It was buffed quite a bit compared to pre-3.24. Getting more bosses means more amulets for oil extraction. Getting all your Blighted maps to drop as Blight-Ravaged is insane. They also brought back the old sextant as a scarab with zero downside. It's really, really good.

Feel like the fun part of betrayal is unveiling items when they already have one or more good modifiers and you hit something useful. Feels like you could get some nice chaos that way, but I suppose this is more high end stuff

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Unveiling good items feels great, especially close to league start.

34:36 you said earlier that building trusted and rival relationships is a very important aspect of betrayal. why here is making another trusted relationship not the move? is it so it will be lowered by 1 rank so on your next interaction you can execute them to get them to rank 3 without wasting a rank? or is it because you don't care much for the rewards of Cameria while in intervention? is it something else? or maybe im undervaluing the intel gain from prison and overvaluing a trusted string? I have literally no idea how to do betrayal, im simply asking so i can understand, not trying to sounds like a dink here.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

We're at 90% Intel on Catarina, and we have a Safehouse ready, so once we run that Safehouse and do another map, we'll have Catarina ready to go. Once we kill her, she will reset all relationships, so building a relationship once you're nearly at the point of Catarina isn't as valuable as getting 21 Intel out of Korell, because that Intel *will* carry over once you kill Catarina. Trusted strings are valuable pretty much throughout a board until you're right on the cusp of spawning Catarina, then you're good to ignore them and just try to either build up ranks for higher rewards from Catarina, or build intel to carry over after you kill her.

@kyleevans1129

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening awesome brother thank you for the reply. To clarify, In a scenario other than right before getting to Catarina, the correct move would be to take the other option and build a trusted string? also great vid brother, I've tried watching like 4 vids and this is the only one that has made it thru to me in terms of understanding how it all works

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

That's right!

@kyleevans1129

2 ай бұрын

@PathofEvening hell yeah. Again, thank you for making the topic seem much less esoteric. Good luck on league stsrt, hope it's going well.

what is that zyclone build you are playing there it looks really interesting

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Cast on Crit Forbidden Rite. It's a pretty fun, high-investment build.

Beautiful

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

can you link the atlas tree for betrayal/expedition please?

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Here you go: poeplanner.com/atlas-tree/BAAQAE8Ah9RcrZTuiRFM9eo1qe-LLki3StD-xVqBif4tD6fiIWDUuZZQ-HO1ZnyrzlrJ_Y3qcfX9jMy3J3Xn2d7-JKWe2CfJh53QxuEHTdp4wnDjnquCUad70nCzx-eu9d5RguEQfbX7sa2VpXPr4fXiThs1MFSHru8TfQsSGIuO2MGvC3HDl1cUFz0qto_lAH9zRDPGtdPVaalDtWNmH9U50CgUAB-LCAAAAAAAAAMDAAAAAAAAAAAA

How do i spawn 4 betrayal encounters per map? Im only getting 3 even with fresh board no idea what im doing wrong plz halp. Thank u

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

You only get 3.

Are you going to do white maps to farm uniqes? Also at first you are probably pushing the atlas in order to get a bunch of points. Should i avoid interacting with betrayal there so i dont scale it to high?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Yes, yes, and maybe. A lot of Betrayal rewards (such as Catarina's uniques and character-specific unveils) are the same at low and high levels, so farming them in white maps makes more sense because it's cheaper, easier, and faster. At this point, we don't know how map tiers will affect Scarab drops from Betrayal NPC's. Doing higher levels might be good, but Betrayal can be lethal, so you probably will want to wait on it until you have a little bit of gear to work with.

@SuperTimmmi

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening I see. Is Expedition worth it at lower levels? Do you loose anything except for the logbooks dropping at low levels?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Bit less currency, but it's still pretty rewarding at low investment.

dude, im at 0:48 , using glasses that "blocks" some lights, and yet my eyes are already hurting from this LS (mtx?) wtf, how do u manage to play with that? xd (time to get back to the video) :)

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Used to it at this point, probably

what are you play for build? i cant find your twich channel

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Toxic Rain Pathfinder, you can find a playlist with our league start guides on it here: kzread.info/head/PLrM10FjC_LKhdyIpdD0ohE6TfdpcQqZ8a&si=VU0FPiEyMB_oo50L

What was that purple cyclone build throughout the video?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

CoC Forbidden Rite. Fun, expensive, and a lot tougher to make work in 3.24 due to the removal of the veiled flask mana mod.

@_iHavok

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@PathofEveningAhh damn okay, looks cool af anyway

3: 45 you can guarantee wich mechanic the dropped scarab belong to by blocking other mechanics on atlas tree maybe?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

That's definitely going to be something worth testing and looking out for. The content/scarab blocking notables will probably work on scarabs from Betrayal NPC's, and if so that could absolutely boost its value. Maybe it won't work. It should, but that's also possible. Sometimes league content will drop stuff that shouldn't be possible, like when you kill a league monster and it drops a bunch of random t14/t15 maps when you have all your Voidstones in & Singular Focus selected.

Best betrayal guide.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Glad to help!

I decided to learn betrayal last league, it's actually pretty easy to figure it out. I found one diadem, two paradoxicas, and like 35 flasks, in about 60-80 Katarina fights total, rng yo. That staff agree drops also sells for quite a bit, and who knows what the new veil orb will sell for.

@ginz9r

2 ай бұрын

How to learn it? I tried multiple times

@kkeithf

2 ай бұрын

@@ginz9r ok. Let's say you wanted aisling slam. That means you need her in research. Run a map and if she's anywhere other than the research lab, interrogate her until she loses all her rank then release her. Keep running maps until she's in in the lab. Once she's in the lab, interact with her first and execute her each time until she's level 3. Does all that make sense so far? Where do you usually get lost?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Two Paradoxicas is downright aspirational.

@TomCat-zo5ig

2 ай бұрын

​@@PathofEveningbrutal droprate

are you going Betray or expedition first after kirac?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Probably Expedition first, since it gives a mix of currency and gear crafting through Rog, but either way could be pretty good.

According to the bonecracker guide, last season I was suppose to get a 7% mana reduction enchant for my rings but I never figured that one out. Somehow you line stuff up with the guy that has an E name. i ended up having to use a mana potion for most of the season and was slow. Eventually I went off guide and got a jewel that had a little mana gen and could kill stuff so much better after that. Never really got the good enchant though. I even got a good ring but it just had had 4% mana reduction lol (Probably why it was cheap) Anyways this season going to play squishy chrs So a little scared :(

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Elreon's cost reduction prefix is super valuable, one of the most useful things that comes from Betrayal!

I got 2 parodoxicas in one day two leagues ago lol, I didn’t realize they were that rare

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Pretty nice!

I dropped a Paradoxica yesterday in SSF and made a character to traffic it to trade and sold it for 11 div

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Very nice.

oh dear god thank you

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

what build is that at 0:30 it looks so flashy O.O

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Lightning Strike. This version is a Poison Pathfinder from a past league. It's dead now, but LS Champ still works!

what is the build he used at the start called?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Lightning Strike. It's best played as a Champion build now.

@axelespinoza261

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening ty, it looks so cool

What is that cyclone build?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Cast on Crit Forbidden Rite. It's fun, but requires a pretty high investment to get working.

@wilk85

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening thanks, yea its not for a noob player like me, probably multiple divines of investment needee

Likewise about Vagan. been trying to get his craft in SSF for weeks now and nadda. Been turning me off from continuing with my CoC dd

@PathofEvening

17 күн бұрын

Yeah, they made a lot of the food stuff from Betrayal a bit too rare.

7:13 yooo, let's hear what's in the Sex and Sex 2 stash tabs lol

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Path of Evening trade secrets! =)

Atlas points link?

@PathofEvening

24 күн бұрын

As discussed in the video, no link. Just take the Betrayal points if you want to run Betrayal.

One thing about your cheat sheet, I run betrayal quite a bit this league and the 'swap divination card' has yet to disappoint me. I just put in junk and get pretty good cards out more than 50% of the time. Best card I got was - seven years bad luck So I do not think it should be labeled as 'bad'

@PathofEvening

18 күн бұрын

Nice!

Liked & Subscribed ❤🙏 Edit: typo

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Thank you, welcome aboard!

hm... is betrayal any useful for profit? i mean except for veiled orb nearly every scarab is worth about 1c *lol

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Most scarabs are worth more than 1c in bulk. For the ones that still are that worthless, you can 3-to-1 them at a vendor for random other scarabs. Because of this, a large of supply of scarabs (even low-value scarabs), can be worth a lot.

Hmmmm... You can get up to 179% increased scarab drops on atlas, but probably not worth it to go over 100% with the betrayal scarab since it probably won't round up when dropping. For that matter I'm not even sure if the wording of "Increased scarabs found in your maps" translates to "increased quantity of scarabs dropped in your maps". But if it does I would assume you could make every betrayal member drop 2 scarabs, which if you're getting 5 members per event is 30 scarabs. Assuming monster rarity mods apply to the rarity of scarab dropped as well, with the "more likely to be less common varieties" passive, betrayal could be a pretty hefty source of rare scarabs. In addition to the member's safehouse rewards having extra scarabs. So much new stuff needs testing.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Very true. The potential is pretty crazy, and Mark did say in the interview with Zizaran that they want the reworked scarab system to feel extremely rewarding.

Not gonna lie, I miss Jun veiled craft, that's how I made a lot of guaranteed Div's each league. It feels like they took away almost all of the guaranteed value and now it's totally RNG on wether you get a good/valuable scarab or a veiled orb drop. I'm going to give it a try again this league because I like that you can guarantee spawn it now, but it feels way weaker for currency farming than it was in the past.

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

It's definitely weaker for the people who knew how to consistently set up Aisling slams and were willing to deal with the hassle of selling them.

Anybody whos been farming betrayal can tell me whats the drop rate of the highest tier of scarabs for a fully leveled safehouse

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Unsure if the drops are different in red-tier Safehouses vs. white-tier Safehouses, but you get anywhere from 3-5 scarabs per box from t2 and t3 Syndicate members, so a decently-stacked Catarina kill can reasonably net you 30-50 Scarabs.

@reaganmah8958

Ай бұрын

i meant the tier of the scarabs! Like 3 starring safehouses last leagues gave u winged scarabs but it looks like its not the same anymore this league :/

Got an atlas progression guide?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Yep. Early Atlas Progression Guide: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oIiHspp9iZDQYaw.html And also PoE Patch 3.24 Atlas Passive Tree Breakdown: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qHl7mcStd7m9qtI.html

@TheVillainArc363

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening Thank you Llarold.

Sadly it turned out they've butchered syndicate, veiled orb drop rate is very low, scarabs are cheap, nothing valuable to be gained, flask, kulemak and diadem are very cheap

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

It was pretty good as a strategy for the first weekend. Beyond that, yeah, it doesn't really have the same currency-making appeal that high-end strategies do, and that's okay. The Scarabs from red-tier Intervention Safehouses and Catarina kills can be good, though.

@7 min in when I saw your color chart with all the equipments. Notices you had sex and sex 2😅

@PathofEvening

17 күн бұрын

You can have it too.

Actually, if you aren't scarabing your map, don't take extra Jun chance if it doesn't lead to something. If Jun isn't there, you don't waste time on it. You will get a similar amount of Juns at 80% as 100% because you will do more maps.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

That is a functional approach, it really depends on the relative expense of maps. If you're spending all the other atlas passive points on Jun and she doesn't appear, they're wasted. On the other hand, if she doesn't appear, then you don't have to commit to that map. You can just speed-clear any other mechanics you have that did show up and leave as soon as you've extracted the bulk of the value. It works, but it's a style of play that feels a bit counterintuitive for most players.

That a shame that they removed ailsling veil and white vorici sockets

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Aisling Veil was itemized and moved over to Veiled Orbs, which drop from Catarina. Vorici Sockets are gone, though. The only alternatives are Omen of Blanching or the Harvest Benchcraft, and they're pretty expensive by comparison.

@sebastianholsclaw

18 күн бұрын

In retrospect it looks like the Catarina drop rate is waaaaaay too low. No way that it should be ok that the veiled orb is ~17div

Almost 20 catas in and 0 orbs

@PathofEvening

18 күн бұрын

RNG, baby!

Are you a physician?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

No, he's not a physician. Why do you ask?

Is betrayal dead? There's no way this new betrayal can be even half as good as selling aisling on tft or winged scarabs

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

It prints an absolute truckload of scarabs, and the uniques are still valuable.

@DragovainLord

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening i farmed 60 div a day with just betrayal and essense in tota and affliction. there’s absolutely no way this can reach the 4 div/aisling on tft we had in the past. i hope to be proven wrong.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Of course not, but it was clear from the moment they announced that it would be itemized that the profit margin from selling Aisling slams would shrink. People weren't paying that much for Aisling because of the value it provides, they paid to circumvent the inconvenience of setting it up. With the inconvenience removed, the price goes down-but it's also easier to farm. With all that being said, just pulled 12 Scarabs in a no-juice white map, as well. It's still good, just distributed more evenly throughout the process.

@DragovainLord

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening its not just aisling. Winged scarabs are much much easier to get and is worth more imo. we also lost hillock and vorici and cinderswallow is worth jackshit now with the mana flask craft being gone. Jun is shell of its former self.

@ynnis-wk5sr

Ай бұрын

Yeah now its just braindead rush for catarina and hope for good uniques and veiled orb, building safehouse's today is time waster, specked today for essences

Molten shell on left click to move fully leveled is absolutely broken u have more health from molten shell than you do on your actually character thank God they removed that shit so broken and dumb ever click u give your self 3 times your health plus a buff that reduces the damage you take absolute broken mechanic needed to go thank god.

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Pretty much.

This is EXACTLY how I feel when I drop something nice on a practice run lol. It's bittersweet.

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Just got another raw Divine Orb in Act 5 doing league start practice. Sometimes it's like that!

Beetlejuice league

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

100%.

without vorici white sockets and hillocks flask quality craft betrayal is useless. what are you talking about?

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Veiled Orbs, Uniques, & Scarabs are more valuable than Vorici or Hillock.

@TvTv-sj4cs

2 ай бұрын

@@PathofEvening noob

Why are you talking that strange like an anime boss character dude? Just relax n talk like u normally would

@PathofEvening

2 ай бұрын

Interesting feedback. However, this is how Llarold always talks.

@patostrophia2948

Ай бұрын

His voice is nice to listen to, very constant

idk why u constantly talk about scarabs except of couple of them they worth next to nothing

@PathofEvening

Ай бұрын

Okay.