This is a Lot to learn in a single video ! I am a boomer and like to improve my game , you definitively help me , thank You.

So helpful! The coaching is amazing! I loved the graph and the in-depth explanations. I've been having troubles with serve returns for a while now, but I've never thought of it this deeply! Thank so much, this will improve my gameplay for sure!

Returning serves with confidence now! This guide covers everything from basics to advanced techniques. Great work! 🌟🏓

Great tutorials 🙌😊 many thanks

If you have to watch only a single video. This is the one

Good channel, thanks for the sharing, and clear guidelines

This is one of the best TT tutorial videos. Thank you very much. I hope to use all these tips and techniques during my next training and matches.

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Best of luck!

@Pingpongcraze

2 ай бұрын

Great video!!! Tqvm!!! Keep it up ❤❤

Awesome video.This was easy to understand.

Very good teaching. Well done.

I have learned a lot from your video. Thank you so much.

You should also mention listening to the impact sound of bat hitting the ball on the serve. Loud vs soft impact sound can contribute to reading backspin vs topspin serve. Also the way a server holds the bat has to taken into account on topspin, backspin & float reading. For instance I do what I call a reverse tomahawk where the bottom of the handle is at 12 o'clock, so now you have to read the bat hitting the ball from a different orientation including if sidespin is added. Thanks for the info - loved the graphic on 3 types of returns vs type of serve.

I see you have done lots of research. Thank you for sharing.

Thank you this helped me a lot in a real game

Excellent Tips

Thanks for another excellent video Elliott.

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Very welcome! Hope you enjoyed it!

Great vid. Thank you 🙏❤️✨🥇✨👌

Very useful & explained in detail. I am confident now to return the different types of services in a better way without giving service points. Thank you 😊

@rationalttanalysis

11 ай бұрын

Glad to hear!

Waiting already for the next video 🎉

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks :D Hopefully it'll be out on Sunday!

Thanx, cool tip!

Good lesson

Terima kasih, video yang sangat bermanfaat dan menambah pengetahuan saya tentang cara bermain tenis meja.

Thanks a lot!

Nice bro, thanks.

This was absolutely amazing! Thanks a lot! I'm a new player. Any advice about which serves to focus on learning as a left-handed player?

Very good content

Thx....love it

Excellent vdo

Thanks!

✅ for any normal side spin (right or left), just receive it with a top spin push or top spin smash. ✅ for a side under spin (right or left), just push it with a chop or hard chop. The difficulty of the service lies on how you read it and how fast you react. Practice!

@GidongLinog

7 ай бұрын

tq for this

I got all the three corect topspin , backspin and float

Amazing

Useful

Man this was amazing could you do a video of teaching/showing differnet kind of serves too? for more variations to keep in arsenal.

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes I’ll try to do that over the next few months 👍🏻

@UjjwalSidhu

Жыл бұрын

@@rationalttanalysis oki doki :)

@cafephin2024

Жыл бұрын

@@rationalttanalysis could you please consider underspin hook serve in your future video as it seems to be very hard for me to generate good underspin for hook/jab serve let alone disguise the serve.

@laaqer

Жыл бұрын

The slow motion serves video will be a great video to study, if you will comment the spin and how we can judge it. Like in your first three examples. Thanks in advance!!!

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

sure, will do a range of serve demonstrations in the next few weeks so stay tuned!

This is amazing serve return video! Thank so much 🙏🙏⭐️⭐️⭐️🔥 I will subscribe & share it to my pp friends, looking forward for another great vids !

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

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Nice

Top content

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Thank you, keep going

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Awesome

@WorldPingPongVideo

Жыл бұрын

Nice

thanks for this video. i learned a lot. can you please provide some "practice drills" you have with a partner. i just go to the club not knowing what to do.

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Sure! Do you mean practice drills for serve receive or just practice drills in general ?

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Thanks! This helps a lot! I was wondering: Are there some tips / tactics to return serves from a pen hold player? In practice the spins principles are the same of course, but are there some commonly played serves or ways of hitting from a pen hold player that requires some specific adjustments? THANKS!

@rationalttanalysis

6 ай бұрын

As a penholder you have an advantage when receiving short serves as you have more flexibility in the wrist. The forehand flick is always a great short to learn for penholders when it comes to returning serves, this can apply to any spin, topspin, backspin, sidespin... so yeah, try to develop the control when returning short serves. I will try making videos specifically for penholders in the coming weeks...

@KAHPUFLOW

6 ай бұрын

thanks for your answer. I actually asked how to return from a pen holder. So I am not a pen holder, but sometimes play with penholders ;-)@@rationalttanalysis

2:10 i'm a newbie in table tennis, i see the bat motion is going downward, how can it be a top spin?

Hi, great video, congrats!, but I think there is a mistake. In the time 2:12 of the video, the serve is float, it's not topspin as you said becase the movement of the stroke is from high to low position...are you agree?

@rationalttanalysis

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words! Although the overall movement is from a high to low position, as the server contacts the ball, his wrist actually flicks upwards, therefore producing topspin. Remember it is only the contact point that matters. This serve can be deceptive at times and it is called the hook serve. I have made a video on how to execute this serve : kzread.info/dash/bejne/eGmHzKmxocWrdbQ.htmlsi=1nYtst1GkymbN6JX&t=35 Hope this helps! 😀

This should have been a 60 FPS video. Reading a serve from 30 FPS video where the most important part often happens between the frames is rather impossible.

1:30 Only applicable for shakehand grip.

Good video. But noone explains properly how to Return that Side spin (especially the windshield piper) serve. Even in your Table you showed, Sidespin returning Strategy is missing. u have covered only Topspin & Backspin in that.

Thank you... Good and helpful tutorial. What is a float serve? I don't understand. Does anybody know the german word for float serve ...???

@rationalttanalysis

11 ай бұрын

Float serve is a serve with no spin

@AUDIODIDACTS

11 ай бұрын

@@rationalttanalysis thank you for this information...!!! 🙏🙏🙏

nice video, there are some errors / misconceptions in it thou coz it is not this easy in reality: 1) ur division of the blade is not true always, it contradicts the common pendulum topspin serve where u hit the ball at the end of a full wrist motion with the "lower" part of the blade at the left of the handle, so ur picture at 1:51 is wrong in that case where it is topspin and not backspin 2) the shuffle serve at 2:13 is not topspin it is a pure sidespin serve with an added downward motion to distract the reciever and he is pushing with a very open bat-angle which is why the ball is going high, coz it has zero backspin on it but not coz it is topspin it is impossible to produce topspin without any kind of upward motion regardless of where u contact the ball on the blade, at best it can be float / pure sidespin, the only other way is throwing the ball high and letting it fall on ur half-opened racket on which the ball gets a slight topspin on its own from the falling speed, but that doesnt comes from any racket movement

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment! Good spot for the first point! I'm not too sure about the pendulum topspin serve, maybe you're right! I need to try it out next time when I go down to my club. But I'm just wondering if you contact the lower part of your bat for the pendulum topspin, which part of the bat do you contact for the pendulum backspin? For the second point, I'm pretty sure that serve is side-topspin. If you look carefully and in slow motion, the server did move his bat upwards before going down as the after-motion. But you're right, to produce topspin, there must be an upward motion.

What is difference between push and touch?

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Touch is a short push

one more note for the "service placement" part: if you're watching where the ball touches the table, you're already late and will lose the point! Watch how high the opponent touches the ball! If your opponent lowers the ball to the top of the table, you get a long ball! If it is high, half high, near the chest, the ball will surely be short! It is almost impossible to serve short by hitting the ball close to the table...:) But of course, there is a technique for that too ;) If you use this tip, you have way more time to react and action: step back and attack long balls >> u MUST attack EVERY long ball in TT!

@rationalttanalysis

6 ай бұрын

Amazing tip!

@MAG-INSTINCT

6 ай бұрын

💪🏓@@rationalttanalysis

Oke manteb

Thank you for the lesson... Would be better the text are not in white colour

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look hard,i'm still learning..🤔

You made the return of sidespin too complicated. To return sidespin just aim in the direction from where the servers bat originated from.

First bounce location does not tell about the length of the serve. Ball bounce arc middle point does not need to be exactly over the net. It can be far on your or opponent's halves.

lost me at 0:38. the first serve it side/back spin not side/top lol

Am i the only one who did not understand anything

@neelammanhas1237

Ай бұрын

Of course

@arleneP.T.

Ай бұрын

Yes you’re the only one

@botao4456

Ай бұрын

Dont worry many people was and are like you. It takes years to master receiving pendulum/reverse pendulum serves, not mention to other kinds of serve such as tomahawk, backhand, hook serve etc...

One word, attack Attack the ball no matter what the spin is

You can produce any spin with any part of the bat, there is nothing like: when the ball hits the top part its topspin You can see it in minute 2:50

@luislomeli8732

9 ай бұрын

Yea spin definitely depends on the motion your racket is doing when contacting the ball. Idk what this guy was talking about

First one is not side topspin it's side backspin

@vaibhav.purohit

11 ай бұрын

It is side topspin!!

@naale_editz

11 ай бұрын

I think its side bacmspin

@arthurb4240

10 ай бұрын

Yes

@fryday1036

10 ай бұрын

A half long backspin serve doesn’t kick forward like that, so we know it’s topspin :)

@yudistiraliem135

6 ай бұрын

Look at the elbow, if it’s high, then topspin. Ma long is pulling upwards while doing it creating topspin

The rule should be changed : 3 sec before the serve, the whole (100% of all the racket) racket and the whole full arm should be visible. In volley ball there s lots of rules about the serve as well and the ball is much slower than ping-pong.

@ericcostellosmith8460

8 ай бұрын

This isn’t ping pong it’s table tennis, two different sports.

You telling us that touching at the lower half of the racket ( at the service ) means BACKSPIN. That is definetely nonsense. It depends on where to you move the racket while hitting. Upward forward then means topspin.

Better not put watermark on someone else's videos.

Kamera powinna byc od strony odbierajacego imitujac sytuacje meczowa tak aby było widac serwującego przeciwnika. A tak to film bezuzyteczny

@rationalttanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Dziękuję za Twój komentarz! Doceniam Twoją opinię. Rozumiem Twój punkt widzenia i wezmę go pod uwagę przy tworzeniu kolejnych filmów. Cenne jest dla mnie słyszeć różne perspektywy dotyczące kątów kamery, i postaram się poprawić jakość oglądania. Bądź na bieżąco, bo czekają Cię kolejne emocjonujące materiały!

VERY SOFISTICATED//BUT THANKS!

He says that if the bat contacts the ball at the bottom of the bat it is backspin and topspin for the upper half of the bat. This is not true. The ball can hit any part of the rubber/bat, the type of spin is determined by the direction of the bat at impact.

The spin doesn't have anything to do with where the ball touches the racket - it only depends on how the racket moves. Also, in the example that you wanted us to see, it only shows the back of the player and the back of the racket - you can't say where the ball touches it.

Honestly the spin should not be allowed, few weeks ago I played with some seniors and obviously I was faster, creative and overall better as long as we played normal / flat.. but as soon as this old lady start usings those weird spins almost none of my balls landed on the table etc… it just feels not good because I am obviously more athletic, younger etc overall talented, but of course they are using spiny serves and get free points

Poor audio! Poor audio! Poor audio! You are fare away from microphone.

Also this video did not help at all.. you only made things even more complicated.. f everyone who is using strong spins and getting free points against new players etc

Your explanation is too complex. I don't understand at all . I think we just play and no need to understand.

@Bub009

12 күн бұрын

It was all very clear and easy.I don't understand which part you didn't get.

Thanks!

Amazing