"Helps to have a spotter". That is a detail that no other video shows. They all just say "place the toilet" and I fail to align it the first 5 times and now the wax ring is deformed. Another website suggested putting drinking straws to extend the bolts and make it more obvious - so there's that. Big Thanks!!!

@honestabe1940

Жыл бұрын

Take the tank off the bowl and the toilet seat if on, then you can see the bolts thru the seat holes. Just have to move your head a little left and right to align. Then put the tank and seat on. Better than screwing up wax ring and starting over!

Good video. Easy to follow. Thanks. I feel a lot more confident now.

@helpinguonline

Күн бұрын

Glad it helped and wishing you the best on your project

I've watched about a dozen videos on replacing a flange and yours was by far the most helpful. Thank you!!!

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

Thanks so much! This was a great instructional. I didn’t know the flange had an outer fitting onto the PVC pipe coming out of the floor. I thought it was on the inside. Many thanks again.

@helpinguonline

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! Many fit inside and some outside... depends on how your house was plumed.

He doesn’t need shims between the flange and the floor. The flange is supposed to be screwed down to the subfloor. Then build up the space between the flange and the toilet with wax rings.

Thanks bunches for going from the "floor/flange" up..I am about to tackle my first "toilet base leak" and am not sure if I will have to replace the flange or just the seal....but this will help me know more about how to tackle the job..small or larger..& the tools I will need to get it done...wish me well !!(LOL) Thanks again VERY good & clear video !!!

Thank you Joe. I have to do this in my spare bathroom. Excellent instructions!

Procedure was good but the reason your flange broke was the cavity under it and those home made “shims”. The proper way to do this is to fill in that cavity with something solid. Wood or cement.

I've been told, 'The jobs not done tell the paperwork is finished.' Not true, you may have a place to do the job, but the job and paperwork is only the beginning if completion becomes a mess. Thank you for a very helpful video. More to toilets than I thought I needed to know. So much more.

Exactly what I needed. Love the fact that you gave every detail. Perfect!

@helpinguonline

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

4:11 Easier said than done. Very helpful video.

WoW! You started right and the only one I've seen that has! Thank you, your video is the only liked one thanks for the refresher brother GOD bless

Great video and info, short and to the point! Thank you.

You Sir are a HANDY man. You have my respect. Great video.

Wow. This video helped me a lot...even tho I'm going to have a pro do the installation I wanted to understand what needed to be done so I could communicate correctly to my plumber (I was debating changing the flanges since the house is near 30 years old).

Thanks a lot. I have to fix my toilet when I get off work today. I thought I was going to have to replace the drain pipe and everything. Awesome advice.

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help. Hope your project goes well!

@davidthomas8709

4 ай бұрын

Same here I said oh man I think I might need a new pipe. Hoping I can fix mine today

Excellent video 👍

Thank you👍

Thank you

Great job. As a side note the bolts are blended with nickel which makes them brittle enough to break them off with a pair of pliers at the groove you cut them. Best way to do that is to use vice grips on the nut to prevent bolt from breaking the new pvc flange

Thanks for the video, good tip.

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

You bet

You must enjoy fixing that flange because you’re gonna have to fix it again sooner or later having it sitting on 4 little pegs lol

Thank you for sharing taught me something sir 🙏

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure... and God bless you and lead you in your project!

Nice job. Good video. Thanks.

@helpinguonline

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and glad it was helpful!

Thank you.

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Glad it helped

The only thing missing is the slow close lid. Most people expect them now and they just drop the "old" style (how hard is it to check before letting go, I know, but some are idiots). Great video, thank you for helping me....now I must try.

Good job....! I work at home depot and I will be able to give good advise now and know what to sell....! Thanks. Al Sautner

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help... thanks for your feedback

@ReverendWin-id9gp

3 жыл бұрын

Getthe flange off! lol

Thanks so much!!!

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Great job!

@helpinguonline

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

You need to level the floor gap around the soil pipe and make it flush to the floor. Cut a ring out of plywood to do this. Those 4 shims are why the original toilet flanged cracked in the first place.

@nicholasgordon2572

Жыл бұрын

Oooo he knows it all

@tyler560

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholasgordon2572 he's definitely correct just think about it. You'd then have contact all the way around the flange. Not just in four small areas.

@michaelcorrothers8340

Жыл бұрын

In many cases the PVC flange bolt slots on the sides crack and sever because the novice before you over tightened the nuts at the base of the toilet which was what I discovered after removing the toilet from the floor.

@NSDaishi

Жыл бұрын

So the flange needs to be flush with the floor?

@turdferguson8227

Жыл бұрын

@@NSDaishi, no

When my flange broke I put 2 , 2x4’s under subfloor screwed on to floor joists then put new flange in put new wax ring on seated toilet then put two 2.5 inch lag bolts in to hold toilet on. It’s good to go now.

@maximusmax4557

3 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea! My flange broke, and I found the stupid thing was only held down by one single wood screw, because whoever installed it originally (the house was built in 1952) cut the dang hole in the subfloor too big! Aaaaarrrgh!

Good job thank you

@helpinguonline

2 жыл бұрын

No problem

Thank you for your video. I have never replaced flange before, but I did replace wax. I did super glue the flange seven years ago. It is still working good.

thank you

@helpinguonline

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Great Vid

@helpinguonline

5 ай бұрын

Thanks

Double nut closet bolts eliminate the wobble and stress on the plastic flange.

Part of this fix might be to tear out the toilet paper holder, drywall up the hole and purchase a free-standing TP holder, thus preventing another broken flange?

@helpinguonline

2 жыл бұрын

That is exactly what was done and no problems with the flange since....

Helps to have a spotter, She comes in wearing a hazmat suit lol!

I dont understand why you used those spacers under the flange since the flange should be screwed tight to the finished floor anyway . Seems like it would hold it up too high and the toilet would rock above the floor if the flange is too high😮

Great Job with your video. I agree, it is the best one I have found. One Question, are you concerned about the next time you have to replace that Flange since you primed and cemented it to the pipe? Are you going to have to cut the pipe?

@jerichojoe307

2 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't be a problem as the first one was glued as well. You just have to make sure that you're only cutting relief cuts into the flange and not into the pipe, with those relief cuts; it's easier to break the bonds of the glue so that you can put a new one on. Any half-decent plumber should be able to replace a fitting without replacing the pipe so long as you have enough clearance to work with for cutting especially with today's new oscillating tools

@michaelcorrothers8340

Жыл бұрын

Jericho Joe are you talkin about a vibrating multi-tool?

thanks for the tip of using 1/2" cooper as slims. I didn't even think about that

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

I can't take credit for that... the original plumber did that... but the copper is resistant to water and my other toilet was done the same way and has had no problems for almost 20 years now. I have moved the toilet paper holder and I think this will be good for decades to come also.

@bobh2610

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't use those shims - that's probably why the plastic broke in the first place. The flange needs to sit flush on wood or tile to be supported all the way around. Instead of the shims I would have cleaned up the surrounding thinset and cut a plywood spacer ring to support the flange around the entire diameter. A little construction adhesive and run the screws all the way through to the subfloor and the plastic won't flex and break again.

Is this still viable if I'm in a condo unit on the third floor? Just bought, and found out the main toilet has this issue.

@helpinguonline

Жыл бұрын

should be... not sure of the type of construction there... concrete floors or wood frame?... also you have the challenge of a neighbor below. In your case you may want to consider hiring a plumber to avoid the possibility of straining a relationship with a neighbor?.

Thank you very nicely presented very useful.

@helpinguonline

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

check for leaks before you cut the bolts in case you have to pull the toilet again !, they now have longer screw on caps so you dont even have to cut the bolts !

This an excellent video but I use a siphon pump remove the excess water.

Does the flange needs to be flush with the floor or being slightly lower or higher okay?

@helpinguonline

Жыл бұрын

The height of this flange works great (flange collar set on top of finished floor)... having said that there are different thickness of wax rings you can purchase to compensate. You don't want it too high though.

Good video. I wish there was a better and faster way to cut off the bolts, I hate that part of the job.

I'v always love to see a woman who isn't afraid to get her hands dirty, way to go, outstanding.

@sheshemarie3410

3 жыл бұрын

So cold😂😂😂 wth

What's your opinion of reinforced wax ring with horn/funnel vs standard ring? Seems to be lots of pros and cons for both. I've heard several plumbers say they discovered the plastic funnels can cause splash-back due to the smaller resulting diameter to move stuff down into the drain pipe. But then most toilets only have 2" or 2-1/8" trapway anyway. I've also heard that the plastic funnels can break down over a relatively short period of time. ???

@jammerk65

5 ай бұрын

I just used a rubber ring, no problems and less mess !

Why not use the metal repair ring for extra support...?

For getting the residual water out, use a hand pump for filling a kerosene heater or a turkey baster.

I've emptied the bottom of the bowl with a siphon tube. A little bit tricky b/c you probably don't want to suck on the far end to get it going...but it can be done. i filled up the tube with forced water at the sink, put my thumbs over each end get one end down in the toilet securely, then of course get the other end into the bathtube at a lower level than the bottom of the toilet bowl.

Tile should go under your toilet flange. Might be stronger if you secured some tile pieces under the shoe with thinset.

Great job but use an oscillating tool instead of a sawzall , it’s much easier .

@pellergin

2 жыл бұрын

Since most people have a drill, I'd saw a hole saw would be much more economical.

@jerichojoe307

2 жыл бұрын

@@pellergin maybe but hole saws aren't cheap especially in the 3-inch to 4-inch range and not often used in that size range except for specific jobs. So buying one for a one-time fix wouldn't exactly be economical and it's hard to find one that's the exact outer diameter of a pipe anyway. If you go too large you can't get the fitting on, you go too small the glue won't hold. Might be more economical TimeWise as referring to getting the flange off, but in the long run you're better off cutting the relief cuts, separating the glue, cleaning it up, and regluing. A lot of times trying to do things the supposed fast and easy way aka ECONOMICALLY can get us into trouble. People spend more time and effort trying not to do something than just to do it. Little elbow grease never hurt anyone.

Awesome video, but I think they make replacement flanges that install right over top of the busted flange. I'm gonna have to check that sh*t out tomorrow, as I busted my flange while installing my new commode at midnight! Aaaaarrrgh!

Did anyone notice the chisel he used? Dude, that looked like a Stanley 750. Take care of those quality made antiques, worth $75 each.

I'm in the process of doing this. Not looking forward to replacing the flange.

Is it this easy with concrete floor?

I always like the guys who don't wear gloves

Not as bad as i thought it would be.

I also found it interesting how (in a sense) easy it was to remove the old flange from the pvc pipe. I would have thought the old glue job had fused the pipe and the flange as one. Then it would have been next to impossible to remove.

@robbob4872

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't done right the first time or he never would have gotten them separated.

@buddahGump

2 жыл бұрын

I damaged the pipe the flange is connected too. Sawzall cut into it. Am I screwed?

@robinganzel1082

2 жыл бұрын

PVC Glue and cleaner/primer only create a glue joint. It doesn’t create a solvent weld.

@billybranum1852

Жыл бұрын

@@robinganzel1082 wrong. Primer and glue together melt the top layer of plastic.. It was never glued properly or it would have never came off without damaging the pipe.

@rickeykeeton4770

Жыл бұрын

@@billybranum1852 This has been my understanding too. Am surprised he got the off like he did. I always thought primer and glue basically welded the pvc joints.

Good video but 3:41 in, you bypass showing how you cut the groove in the pipe - which turned out to be biggest challenge. Wish you would have shown that because the rest of video is excelent.

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

see 4:10 and you will see how I did it

This probably works fine in a lot of situations but be carefully not to bust up, crack your pipe below

This is my issue. Guess I will need another person to lift off and on great video

Also, have you or anyone tried the latest toilet seal (in place of the wax ring ??If so, please let me know opinions on how they work in comparison...Thanks again ~

I bust out laughing when I heard him explain how that flange broke 😂

@neilspadanuta3871

3 жыл бұрын

How did it?

@neilspadanuta3871

3 жыл бұрын

Flange didnt look too high looked flush

@practicalintuition4030

3 жыл бұрын

"burst" I burst out laughing

@SunjuhTribal

Жыл бұрын

@@practicalintuition4030 no bust and burst mean the same thing and bust actually has the word burst as a definition

Theory why not use threaded flanges instead of glued do they even make threaded flanges?

Shop vac comes in handy, if you have one.

Why not use a set-back closet flange. Although it looks like the tank is 1" or less from the wall?

I think maybe them copper pipe shims just cut into the flooring and that’s why the flange cracked in the first place. Perhaps washers would create a more solid foundation for the flange thus eliminating the need to repeat this job in the future.

@timfuscaldo3024

8 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same, that new flange is going to break also. I am willing to bet on it. The pressure at the shims will crack it. Should have used the spacer rings.

In my case the two bolts securing the toilet were installed in the horse - shoe like opening of the flange instead of the designated slots, and the flange itself was not oriented correctly. No leaks, no wobble I wonder how it held together for years and years with the bolts in the wrong holes of the flange?

@dennardboatner6099

2 жыл бұрын

The flange has multiple mounting options in this case either will work

maybe shim back of tank also,mine broke do to someone pushing back on toilet or bumping it

Barefoot and those shorts - Is this the Flintstones' house?

"Thankfully the installer didn't use primer" "I'm going to put primer on the new one"

Nice video....I have same issue except my kids seem to think shittin and dancing go hand in hand 🙄

Fun fact: it is actually BETTER to have the flange flush with the floor. As you can see by shimming his he caused wobble even after installation was done.

@joshuamclaren7529

2 жыл бұрын

Lol no. That’s a big piece of misinformation right there

@chadbrown7648

2 жыл бұрын

U never want the flange flush with floor the toilet won’t seat right n it can leak

@philipnicholson3216

8 ай бұрын

@@chadbrown7648 subflloor or finished floor ?

You should not wiggle it left and right because you are using a wax ring if you push down one side more than the other side the low side will not go back up then you might have a gab between the toilet and the wax there for you should drop your toilet on the wax ring and push down evenly on both sides with out wiggling you can do so only with rubber ring because the rubber gos back to its shape

@Passions

9 ай бұрын

Have you heard of a period? Use them.

HOW DID YOU SAND IT?! lol that's what I'm needing to see. I'm currently doing this and having trouble coming up with ideas for sanding the outside of the pipe to get the new flange on. Your video cut away right then.

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

I used the chisel to chip off the few pieces of pvc that were left on the pipe and did very little sanding... just enough to smooth it out a little. I folded the paper in half which made it stiff enough to go around the pipe a few times and do what I could.

What about using a universal metal flange when the PVC one breaks ?

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

I believe that toilet flange broke because of the inconvenient location of the toilet roll. In the other bathroom the flange has not been any trouble for 20 years and it is the same as the one I replaced. I considered a metal flange repair ring, as mentioned in the video but I have seen those rust and rot. So long story short I don't think the problem was the PVC but the location of the toilet paper roll causing people to put undue stress on the flange.

Better to go with a new flange instead of a repair kit. Do it right once so you dont have to tear it apart again.

Most videos I have seen the flange goes on the inside of the PVC drain. I’ll have to check mine and see which it is.

@nathanbain798

3 жыл бұрын

There separate types of flanges. Some glue into a 90 that comes up and some will glue into the actual pipe making the closet space alittle smaller. As a plumber I prefer this method; and if you do have either of the other ones it’s the same thing you just cut inside instead of out

@tes767

3 жыл бұрын

My floor flange goes on the inside. I have to replace it because the plastic slot is broken where the left T-bolt goes in. The floor is tile on cement with electric in-floor heating so this ups the ante. Proper cement screws were not present either. The little job that grew!

Great video, but what if the floor is a concrete slab 😢? I think the only choice is the metal ring.

@stevechapman236

3 ай бұрын

You have to screw metal ring down to floor too. On concrete you use concrete screws.

What did you use for spacers???

@helpinguonline

2 жыл бұрын

I just replaced what the plumber used from the original install... 1/2" Copper water line cut to length.

Did you move the position of the toilet paper so it doesn’t happen again?

@helpinguonline

3 жыл бұрын

Yes... right away and no problems since to this date

Better to use to use a hole saw on a drill, in this video which uses a female flange, a 4" hole saw to be exact, to remove the ring. Helpful video though.

Would have been much easier to cut the 3” 90 out underneath and replace it all. Plus never use a pvc closet flange get the ones with the steel ring. I have only done this 1000 times before

Shop vacuum 😊

I've cracked the porcelain after eating too much Taco Bell. Lol

I was under the impression that the top of the flange needed to be flush with the floor not above it... it seemed like you were saying that the entire outer portion of the flange needed to be its thickness above floor level. that seems too high.

trying to replace my falnge...that is in concrete, and it's just like yours is in teh subfloor, with the flange on the outside of the tube...and they poured the foundation around it :(

@kentshelton5541

3 жыл бұрын

Try using the repair kit he mentions in the video

Where can I buy those shims you are using

@helpinguonline

Жыл бұрын

The plumber cut those from half inch copper water pipe

Just so everyone knows the flange does not break off the spigot that easily it's damn near impossible, especially if your pipe sits below the floor. I'm screwed.

Buy a squeze bulb from Amazon and it will suck out the water with very little left to leak from the tank?

Brave man ! BAREFOOT YUK!, let alone chancing BROKEN TOES!

Just have to silicone the base and your done.

@BoomerActual

3 жыл бұрын

I was told not to silicone around a toilet base. That will seal in any water leak from a worn wax ring etc preventing you from early detection allowing the problem to get worse and rot.

@abelmorales4303

Жыл бұрын

@@BoomerActual Just leave a small portion uncaulked. 👌🏼

I use my shop wet dry vac

No need to use glue here. It’s just making extra work when you have to replace it again.

Should have said it was for a sub floor. I have cement to deal with.

Now move the toilet paper holder

If you have rusted bolts and can’t unbolted, just cut them off and don’t try to move the toilet, you may break the flange. That’s what happened to me I end up cut it off a pieces