How to replace 99-07 GM rocker panels and cab corners
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On this video I go through the entire process of replacing rocker panels and cab corners on a 1999 through 2007 style GM crew cab truck, although the same principles apply to any make or model.
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Thanks very much for this. It makes me more confident as I approach my own job. Unfortunately, I have to replace my inner rockers as well. I tried to find a body shop that would do the job but they were all consumed with doing insurance-collision work. I have the aftermarket panels and I'm ready to remove the box and get to it. My truck is loaded with options. Otherwise I'd just find another truck. The cost of a replacement vehicle is exorbitant therefore this is my only choice. Great work.
@Johnnymidnight
51 минут бұрын
It’s hard to get shops to do this work, the industry has changed, they are now collision repair shops, not body shops. Price of trucks is why my little shop is always booked up forever. Good luck with your project!
Very helpful, thank you! Great insights from a pro! I’ll be tackling this job on my channel soon (as a rookie).
@Johnnymidnight
Күн бұрын
Awesome, glad you found it helpful, good luck with the project 👍🏼
You can't even tell that this was repaired. It looks great.
I started doing these on the side being in Michigan USA, most body shops wont do rust repair, doing it full time for over four years now.
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
Nice, I imagine you guys have similar winters to us here in BC. Same thing here, body shops are all just collision shops now and won’t do this stuff.I’ve also been doing this full time about 4 years, did on the side for many years while working full time in collision.
@buildsvlogs
5 ай бұрын
What’s your contact I’m in Detroit look for a quote
@clterry07
3 ай бұрын
Great video I'm really eager to get mine done ... Keep up the videos...
@NiKaNoKo
3 ай бұрын
Where in Michigan are you? I am in need of this on my Avalanche!
@billhowe6180
3 ай бұрын
an hour north of grand rapids.@@NiKaNoKo
On my 2006, the front door electrical connections can simply disconnect in the side of the dash (where the fuse panel is) and you don't need to pull the harness out of the door.
@Johnnymidnight
6 ай бұрын
Yes!!I I actually brought this up in a recent video, I just recently learned this…. For years I’d been pulling out the harness, as i was told years ago it was the only way 🤦🏻♂️
I’ve had the question for a while now of what to do and when for the restoration process on my 99 Cherokee and 06 duramax. Everybody has a million ways of doing things but never fully explain why they do it that way. Your process made my decision simple from metal replacement to final finish and made my life a hell of a lot easier 😂
@Johnnymidnight
4 ай бұрын
Glad you found it helpful 👊🏼
Nice work ! You can tell you care about the quality and longevity of the repair
@Johnnymidnight
3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
Awesome video! Very descriptive in your work as well. Definitely will be rewatching this video when I attempt to fix my own. 👍
@Johnnymidnight
4 ай бұрын
Awesome, glad you found it helpful 👊🏼
Perfect Video. Im out in BC too and going to fix up my low km 1999 Sierra exactly like this in the summer
Great video and great work. Exactly what I needed to watch. Great job my friend.
Live in tropical beach area and. I’m constantly at war with rust on my 96 Pathfinder rat SUV. Good to find a channel devoted to rust repair. I really like your methodical and thorough approach to the battle. 😎 Some of the best I’ve seen. Thanks. Saludos from Mexico
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it!
@bondpit8750
2 ай бұрын
Living near salt water they will rust from the top down if they are parked outside and not washed off daily. Still not as bad as the salt and sodium hydrochloride brine they put down on the roads in the rust belt states.
Thanks for the video,always helpful to get a preview before starting a project. Great job.
@Johnnymidnight
2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
thx for the video i have an 05 crew cab and my sons 04 extended cab to do... btw if you had a little gray going on you look just like my cousin
@Johnnymidnight
27 күн бұрын
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G'day from your neighbor in Alberta! Thanks for posting this. Looks like a good bit of work but I'm looking to do inners and outers on my 06 silverado extended cab come spring.
@Johnnymidnight
4 ай бұрын
Cool, hopefully the videos are helpful!
Thanks you...excellent video with a lot of great details. I have a 2000 Silverado that is just starting to show external bubbling around the passenger side rocker. This truck has always been in a southern USA climate, so surprised that rust has started to bust out, but based upon your video, the rust must have started internally from moisture accumulations. Otherwise the truck is clean so I am interested in replacing the rockers. Can you respond with a supplier for the new rocker panels? Thanks again.
@Johnnymidnight
3 ай бұрын
I get all of my parts through LKQ ,they don’t sell direct, but I’m pretty sure any auto parts store should be able to source from them. The rockers I use are the OE style full rockers, there are much cheaper “slip on” style panels, but they’re more for just patching stuff up for a few years.
SUB'D... used motor oil or fluid film is BY FAR better than painting the insides
My 2002 Sierra extended cab has a third layer sandwiched between the inner and outer layers. I can't find it in any of the parts sources online, do you know why they had it and is it necessary to make up a replacement? Thanks for the excellent tutorial video.
@Johnnymidnight
2 ай бұрын
I usually just trim that back, and put the new rockers on. It’s not structural, so doesn’t appear to be necessary
The harness unplugs from the fuse box on either side of the dash
@Johnnymidnight
Ай бұрын
Yes, I did these this way forever, because I was told they didn’t unplug 🤦🏻♂️. I know now how to do them properly 🥴
Rust belt experience shows big time in this video! Nice work and great attention to rust prevention details. My son and I are doing the same job on the same truck this summer. I’m in the states (Massachusetts) and curious where we could find 13 gauge panels? Mill supply and Raybuck don’t specify. Probably just give ‘em a call? Anyway, Nice job!
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
Check your local auto parts store, they will most likely be able to get them from Keystone, for extended cab they are RRP1404 & 1405, crew cab RRP1459 & 1460👍🏼
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
I’ve never used the composite parts, but they look pretty good. They would probably be tricky if the inners needed replacement, but definitely look like a viable option 👍🏼
@Natecam.
Жыл бұрын
If I decide to go with them I’ll let you know.
Nice job John! Going to be solid and good when you're done. Hey what brand of rust repair panels are the thick good ones you like? The thin ones are way harder to butt weld to. Thanks, keep up the great work.
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
The full rockers from keystone cross Canada are really super good quality, the cheap slip on rockers aren’t nearly as good, but they have their place.
What are the plans for the golden nugget this summer? Love that car!
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
I have some more work ti do on it, I signed up to do a 1000 km drag and drive event in June with her….. should have it out of storage pretty darn soon 👍🏼👍🏼
Looks like you have went above and beyond doing the frame, did you spray or brush it ?
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
I sprayed it, I’ve done a few like that, I thin the POR probably 10-15% , and as long as it’s sealed all around seems to last really well
Nice work! A couple of questions, if you don’t mind. What would you estimate your time in the repair all in?, and is that a Camaro I see in the background? Future plans? I was shocked to see all of the mud and crud inside of those rockers. This looked like it might have been a flood vehicle at some point.
@Johnnymidnight
2 ай бұрын
These are typically around $4000 (Canadian) part’s and labor, pretty normal for them to be full of dirt and mud in this area. Can’t remember what I had in the shop at the time, was doing a long term 70 Charger, and I have an orange 69 Firebird, that might have been inside as well
@bondpit8750
2 ай бұрын
@@Johnnymidnight Thanks for the reply. I read a few of the comments and saw your reply to another on total cost. I was curious as to the approximate hours it takes you to do the rust repair part of the job. The overall cost seems to me as money well spent to extend the useful life of a truck and keep it presentable. Makes a good illustration as to the value of preventative measures like Krown, or even used motor oil as as you mentioned. There’s another autobody channel local to me here in Michigan, Lakeside Autobody, that features a lot of rust repair and “how to” for the DIYer. He swears by used motor oil in rockers, doors, etc. His rust repairs are more down and dirty but functional than “restorative” as yours are. Interesting to see the differences in approaches. Subbed!
@Johnnymidnight
2 ай бұрын
Oh that’s cool, I’ll have to check out their channel as well 👍🏼👍🏼
How did you separate the bedbites when you got rid of Spot wells is it called a splitter
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
I use an air hammer with a chisel bit on it
23:31 By cutting through the old and new at the same time, how do you get a perfect fit for a butt weld? Won't there be a gap equal to the width of the kerf (roughly the thickness of the cutting wheel)?
@Johnnymidnight
3 ай бұрын
Yep, but you can usually adjust the panel a hair to tighten it up if necessary
Can you paint por 15 over a blotchy combination of sanded old paint, bare metal and mostly removed rust? BTW I subscribed
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
POR 15 actually doesn’t adhere very well to clean metal, but I’ve used it pretty much exactly as you’ve described without issue😉
What would you cahrge for something like this i know every trucks different but just a ball park?
@Johnnymidnight
4 ай бұрын
They typically end up being around $4500 (Canadian)
My doors on my truck have surface rust and bubbling paint and 2 pen holes. Are those doors savable 2008
@Johnnymidnight
Жыл бұрын
Hard to say, the biggest thing is the inside pinchwelds, once they’re swollen It can become a big job
Nice video! I currently have a gmc savana box truck a used Penske truck 2004. No bodyshop around me does rust repair anymore. They all referred me to the same guy. I went to him for an estimate and said let's do it. My rocker panels were pretty rusty. He's charging me $1,900 for both panels and some of the back corner near the box. He also recommended a rust treatment for the frame of the whole truck for $1,800. Does this sound reasonable to you? Thanks
@Johnnymidnight
5 ай бұрын
1900 is definitely fair for the rockers, when I do them it’s typically around 4000 (Canadian) for rockers and cab corners, but I only use the OE style full rockers, there are much cheaper stamped “slip on “ rockers available as well. I did a more recent video where I show the difference in the parts.kzread.info/dash/bejne/q2yB27WFndmpY9I.htmlsi=viws7yI6q8w6i03S. As for the extra rust treatment for 1800, hard to say not knowing exactly what he would be doing.
@turningoveranewleaflawncar952
5 ай бұрын
Ok thanks for your reply! I'll check out your video link. Good to know that's a reasonable price. As far as the rust treatment. He said they'll knock off any loose rust on the frame and apply a chemical that does something with the rust on the frame and then paint the frame to help prevent any further rust issues. I was thinking it was just like spraying the frame with undercoating but he said it's better. He said undercoating is just masking the rusty frame where what he's doing will protect it better. I just well why he has it just do it to help with the rust and hopefully protect it to get a couple more years out of it.
@Johnnymidnight
5 ай бұрын
Sounds reasonable, these trucks are worth spending a few bucks on, especially living in the age where new trucks cost more than my first house 😉
@bondpit8750
2 ай бұрын
@@JohnnymidnightJust finishing up a full body off frame restoration on a GMT 400 including the powertrain. Probably close to mid $30’s invested but I already owned the truck. Can depreciate the cost all in one year vs a new truck over 5yrs and it cost me less than half to do it. It’s a no brainer for me.
have you ever replaced the inner rocker? and how hard is that to replace?
@travis8404
3 ай бұрын
no need to take the cab off ? if you were doing the inner rocker?
@Johnnymidnight
3 ай бұрын
They can be a bit tricky, the way they have to fit up sort of between the edge of the floor and the cab mounts, but not terrible. Sometimes you have to splice in a couple spots to get them to fit in nice
@Johnnymidnight
3 ай бұрын
No need to remove the cab
Hey where do I buy them? I have an 2015 gmc Sierra ext cab
@Johnnymidnight
22 күн бұрын
Any auto parts store should be able to supply these parts
Whats the price on this roughly
@Johnnymidnight
Ай бұрын
Typically around $4000 before taxes (Canadian)
Oof truck rolled in with a rusted frame and came out painted.
@Johnnymidnight
2 ай бұрын
And your point is?
You've done a MILLION of these repairs?? I'm going to call BS and stop watching. Something about starting a video with a flat out lie that just says stop. Bye😢😢
@Johnnymidnight
17 күн бұрын
Actually 1.5 million, that was a low estimate
Quick question: What was the approx hrs/cost of cutting out the old and welding in the new? Thanks!
@Johnnymidnight
18 күн бұрын
Typically around $4500 in my shop
@baconunteggs
18 күн бұрын
@@Johnnymidnight Thanks for your quick reply!