I have no idea how I could use this in my mastering workflow, but love it never the less.

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for checking it out! Could be useful if you ever do a fully analog release? You could mix your material down to a VCR and then transfer to cassette tape for distribution (at least that’s my current plan 😅). 👍

@Andersljungberg

8 ай бұрын

For the best possible dynamic sound, you should have a VHS with manual setting of the recording level

My Mitsubishi S-VHS HiFi VCR is still connected to the component AV system. I don’t think I have recorded any video to VHS in years but I still use it to watch movies I have on VHS and I use it regularly to record audio only. A standard 240 tape gives me 4 hours of extremely high quality audio, and I have many vinyl albums recorded to HiFi VHS meaning I don’t have to wear out the stylus or the records., and I can play a double album - both sides without having to turn records over or swap to the second record.

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Cool, that’s a great way of preserving your vinyl collection and still getting that nice analog sound. 👌

@just_passing_through

Жыл бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic HiFi VHS is still my favourite method of recording for home use, but I am old school. Still have MiniDisc in my car. I can’t seem to lose my love for physical media. 👍

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@just_passing_through I know what you mean, I’m found of physical media. At least you know you’ll still have it if you stop subscribing to Spotify etc! 😅

@deepguidance

4 ай бұрын

and... better than a compact disc 👌

@jhonwask

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like a good idea to me.

No kidding, the most blown away I've ever been by any kind of home media was when I finally got a VCR with hifi audio and plugged it into my amplifier and put in my well-worn copy of Star Wars. The THX ident, which had made the tiny single speaker on my old 70s telly rattle and raspberry, was deep and full and bam. The film starts and wow. Given the quality I went through a period of recording radio broadcasts to VHS and would use long play since there seemed no discernible difference between that and standard play on the audio side. Bad move as playing those back 20+ years later on a different VCR the dropout is astounding.

@wehappyfewmusic

Ай бұрын

That’s a pain that your old LP tapes have developed dropouts! HiFi VHS audio is amazing when it works but can be a bit unpredictable.

Your voice is sweet! Many thanks for your creative video!

@wehappyfewmusic

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the positive feedback, it’s much appreciated!

It’s a great way to record off air radio. Some stations used this to log off air broadcasts as it’s a legal requiremeNt to have this if needed.

@wehappyfewmusic

12 күн бұрын

That must have been a very economical way of doing things back in the day. 👍

Very impressive and creative!

@wehappyfewmusic

10 ай бұрын

Thank you ! 🙏

Love this. I'd be inclined to "record the recording" to the VHS into the DAW as well - to compare what effect the tape itself adds. Oh, and your voice reminds me of the Housemartins. All good stuff!

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much, that’s great to hear you like the tutorial and good idea regarding the recording comparison! A few people have mentioned my voice reminds them of the Housemartin’s, so there must be something in that. Cheers 👍

I still have a sizeable collection of used VHS tapes that of course never gets used anymore. Might give this a try as I much prefer the warmth of analog tape versus digital. As someone else said, it would be great to find a way to multitrack record using VHS tapes but, tape speed would be a hindrance to fidelity. OP your recording sounds great, nice distinctive tone.

@wehappyfewmusic

8 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s a shame there was never a high speed VHS multitrack recorder. Akai made something similar on their own version of VHS tapes with the MG 1214’s, but I’m not sure of the tape speeds.

A1 and A2 are the SCART I/O on the back, I would usually use the A1, rather than the decoder. Also, there should be RCA inputs on the front. VHS can get levels up to +10, but a device with manual level control would be ideal.

@wehappyfewmusic

3 ай бұрын

Many thanks for the tips and a manual level control would be very useful. I’m going to look into getting one with that feature.

@SFtheGreat

3 ай бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic For exampl I have a Panasonic NV-F65HQ, other from this line also should have such controls. If you want to go to another level, then there's JVC ERA, or something form Sony's pro line, those owuld have balanced I/O.

@wehappyfewmusic

3 ай бұрын

The Panasonic looks like a good model, and I’ve found a couple in the same line (75 model number). Does yours need to be tuned into a tv signal to get it to work?

@SFtheGreat

3 ай бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic Mine does not need to have a video input, as a matter of fact, that model was made with audio in mind, since in LP mode, it doesn't even support a video signal, only audio. And Hi-Fi Stereo in LP mode shows little to no degradation. And we're still talking PAL here.

@wehappyfewmusic

3 ай бұрын

@@SFtheGreat Excellent, that sounds like the model for me then. Thanks 🙏

Can you do an in-depth video on recoding vinyl to vinyl?

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

I’d love to be able to cut to vinyl, buts that’s beyond my budget unfortunately!

I don't know if it would work with the existing vhs tape formulations, but I'd like to have a vhs machine with an eight track recording head. Thick tape, and a great transport system that was engineered since they used to make hundreds of millions of those things. It could be a hi-fidelity multi-track portastudio.

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Now that would be amazing, sign me up! 🙌👌

@cuoresportivo155

Жыл бұрын

the tape moves very slow though, you would get 8 very poor quality tracks (similar to non-hifi vhs audio (50-8khz ish)

This video shows how to do in PAL, but at least on NTSC VHS, to get a correct audio recording you need to input an stable video signal too.

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing this out, I’ve not used a NTSC model so hadn’t realised this. I’ll add a note in the description. 👍

@GaryKeepItSimple

11 ай бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic You also need a stable video signal in MOST PAL Hi-Fi VHS. Only a few had the self syncing function. The Hi-fi was only intended for use in recording video combined. Like most things, the Video recorders were "simplified" as time went by.

@wehappyfewmusic

11 ай бұрын

I think both my decks are newer ones then as they self sync. 👍

@wehappyfewmusic

11 ай бұрын

Yes good point, it’s a close call between which is the best option. The newer models which are easy to use, or early models with better features and complicated setup procedures.

@HerecomestheCalavera

Ай бұрын

I've been wanting to copy some music to VHS and play it through my stereo just for fun. I would have thought you could do it without a video signal. Thanks for the information. Simple enough problem to overcome, just run from the video out of a DVD player or similar device.

''Alternatively you might use the VCR as an analog processing stage in a digital recording, as an alternative to 'analog style' plugins in a DAW'' Can you use the tascam 424 for this instead of the VHS or is there any kind of analog compression that the 424 wont do? Ive the exact same tascam mk1 Thanks

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Cool, snap! The 424 is a nice little machine! Yes, the VCR would make a great alternative to analog plugins in digital mastering. I’d say the ‘analog sound’ of the VCR would be much more subtle than the 424 mk1 for that purpose. It retains more high end detail and doesn’t have the pronounced tape saturation that you get from a portastudio.

I had a JVC super VHS with manual setting of the recording level. I also know someone who had a hitachi regular hi-fi VHS that also had manual setting of the recording level

@wehappyfewmusic

8 ай бұрын

Sounds like a nice machine.

@user-camdrod

6 ай бұрын

У меня и сейчас jvc srs388 с ручными регуляторами звука .И я доволен этим аппаратом.Наушники к нему тоже подключаются!

@Andersljungberg

6 ай бұрын

@@user-camdrod i’m sorry, but I don’t understand Russian Language

@user-camdrod

6 ай бұрын

My jvc sr-s388 the best play and recorder.Ok?

@user-camdrod

6 ай бұрын

@@Andersljungberg так ты можеш перевести легко.Я же тебя понимаю,а ты нет.

I have 2 of those vcr with the advanced features like level meter they not hard to set up

@wehappyfewmusic

4 ай бұрын

Nice, which models have you got?

@jamesjr2550

4 ай бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic canon vr-hf600 and canon vr-hf720

@jamesjr2550

4 ай бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic they have some dope features like I can change hifi to standard left right are mono mic ports mpx filters seem like features thats on my cassette decks

@jamesjr2550

4 ай бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic they also have all 3 different speed sp lp amd slp if people into that

@wehappyfewmusic

4 ай бұрын

that soundsz like a great feature set, I’ll definitely check that model out.

That's a cool video.. by the way, what is the name of connector is pluged on the rear panel Panasonis vhs player? Is it hard to find on the market?

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like the video! Try searching for this and they should come up online - RGB SCART Plug Male to 3 RCA Female A/V Adaptor Converter for TV DVD VCRs

@saptoadhinugroho8014

Жыл бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic thanks much for your answering. Are we have to use this adapter to inputing audio into the machine? Is this the only port on the machine, nothing else input port?

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@saptoadhinugroho8014 Yes, if you’ve got the same model as me you’ll need the adapter to get the audio input to connect to your studio gear. Some VCR’s have regular RCA jacks and scart, but not this one.

@saptoadhinugroho8014

Жыл бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic okay, thanks alot for your explanation.. The sound you recorded sounds great.. I'll try this way

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@saptoadhinugroho8014 you’re welcome and thanks 🙏

What is the advantage of this over sending the Tascam mix directly to the computer, seeing as it’s already in an analogue format?

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

It’s minimal in this scenario but the mix sounds different being summed in the analog domain. I’m currently doing a fully analog album though and the VCR is a game changer there as it maintains the fidelity of the mix with minimal generational loss.

@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88

Жыл бұрын

I have to interfere. This video is for us, who wished for whole life to do such testing. And we like what we see and hear. Computer or sd cards or ssd are not in this universum.

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 Thanks🙌

@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88

Жыл бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic welcome. We understand eachother, these younger generations are confused why, for God sake, we use tapes. Sad.

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 It’s hard to know what you’re missing until you’ve tried it. 😊

That was a nice touch opening a brand-new and sealed VHS cassette tape. Was this old stock (NOS = new old stock), or do you have a reliable source for new VHS tapes?

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Hey, this is a NOS VHS I found on eBay, but in my latest video I used a Maxell HGX Black 60 tape, which may be newer? I got a batch off Amazon but noticed they are still available in several media shops too.

hi my mate had been doing this sometime ago asked why he saw his mate doing it as well alot of the vhs decks have a level max thing in the decks note i am in to betacam sp there is a over load level settings button on alot of the more pro decks the ones with the big vu meters were decks that were target for audio recording only like on the sony 100ub betamax button for black video i have to say a betacam first gen liner audio can walk all over vhs hi-fi because tape speed is very high i have racks of working betacam decks note i used to do this as well till all the good video decks stop coming on ebay

@wehappyfewmusic

6 ай бұрын

I’ve not got hold of a betacam yet but they do look to have been designed to record audio in a more professional way. Did you need to get yours serviced/fixed?

I am not sure why you used the videotape in the first place, but I would have mixed it to a digital file and done my mastering there, eliminating the VCR entirely. However, if you used all analog equipment you could just master it to the VHS tape and skip the computer entirely.

@wehappyfewmusic

2 ай бұрын

Good points. I was producing a fully analog album at the time though, so was partly testing out the process here.

what about the long play modes ? would that degrade the sound ?

@wehappyfewmusic

6 ай бұрын

I’ve not properly tried out the long play modes but would guess so.

I got a same interface for some reason Does'nt recording on tape just back from the tape...😵 Something am I doing wrong?! May 'cuz I does'nt use 4track recorder?

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

That’s a pain. Have you checked all the obvious stuff like if the leads and vhs tape is okay, and if you’ve got the VCR on the right setting?

How would I record a song directly from my computer from iTunes or garageband directly to the vhs tape? Would I need the same cable you used for your interface? I could see how that would work recording VHS to a computer but im not sure how that would work the other way around.

@wehappyfewmusic

5 ай бұрын

Hi I’d guess your computer has a standard headphone output? If so you’d need a stereo 3.5mm to stereo rca phono cable.

@elnyoutube123

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@elnyoutube123

5 ай бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic Would it make more sense to get an RCA to 3.5 TRRS or would a standard RCA to 3.5 TRS make sense? I was thinking about the TRRS cable because that could be seen as a "mic" input to the computer so it could allow easier recording/transfer with one cable. Or do I need one of each? Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to this subject and I want to make sure I get all the right stuff the first time, thanks.

@wehappyfewmusic

5 ай бұрын

@@elnyoutube123 I’ve not used a 3.5 TRRS cable before but would guess it depends on your computer audio input. If it’s a line input I’d go for the standard cable, and the TRRS if it’s a mic input.

@elnyoutube123

4 ай бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic UPDATE: Iv'e tried everything. TRS/RCA, TRRS/RCA, 1/4 to RCA, full RCA, RCA hooked up to video source (in case my VHS only records that way), RCA to 1/4 hooked up to a di, nothing works. I'm not sure if it's my vcr that just straight up can't record audio, but yeah nothing has worked. I tried playing movies from the vcr and the video and sound work perfectly, so no issue there. When I try to record audio and play it into my computer, it just plays static and some head noise, but the static stops at the same point I ended the recording so it is recording *something*. Somebody on reddit had this same exact issue but no one ever figured it out. I'm thinking I should just get a VCR that is known to record audio. Mine is a Panasonic PV-4665S made in Japan. I can't find any information on this VCR. Not even a picture on Google images lol.

you recently emailed me with answers to my questions but im very slow to understand what youre saying i have a stereo vcf with r and l meters and a h p chromebook and record player can i record to vhs tape taking youtube music to tape and i have a tv hooked up and i have a phillips cdr recorder but i do not have that other thing you have or audity can you help me ive been wanting for yrs to record to vhs thankyou.

@wehappyfewmusic

5 ай бұрын

If there is a headphone output on your laptop you should be able to plug a lead from that into the inputs of your VCR. Does your vcr have rca audio inputs?

@johnm893

5 ай бұрын

yes it has all that i even have cables like the one with the small male jack with regular size male jacks and i have some with female to male mini male@@wehappyfewmusic

the tascam feels like an unnecessary step to me, but i’m new to this process, what difference dod that step add that i’m missing?

@wehappyfewmusic

6 ай бұрын

You don’t need to include the Tascam step, that was just the machine I’d recorded my song onto.

@dreamcity7514

6 ай бұрын

oh so you recorded on there, and then from there on to the daw?@@wehappyfewmusic

@wehappyfewmusic

6 ай бұрын

@@dreamcity7514 pretty much, the order of proceedings for me was, recording the song onto Tascam, mixing it down to HiFi VHS then finally recording into my DAW.

Is a specific VHS cassette necessary? or can it be a basic one?

@wehappyfewmusic

6 ай бұрын

A basic one should work fine. Shorter play tapes tend to be more reliable if you can find one though.

your video I will try to change the recording level anyway. probably so that it raises the volume on weak sounds So less dynamics

@wehappyfewmusic

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. 👍

The question is, should I necessarily record on tape? If I record, couldn't I send the output to the daw in real time?

@wehappyfewmusic

Ай бұрын

Yes you could record directly to a DAW instead, it depends if you want to keep things analog or not.

Who wants to test this mastering for pure analog transfer purpose , Please remember : You need "80dB" dynamic range standard spec Stereo HiFI VCR

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info 👍

Can you let me know what cables I need to do this? I cannot understand your accent and I am also unfamiliar with the cables so I couldn't catch what you said.

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Sure, you’ll need a stereo RCA phono cable and another stereo RCA to 1/4 inch cable. The second one goes from the VCR to your audio interface.

People like myself are fixing broken vhs tapes with Scotch tape it starts playing again with out no problem's everything proven vhs tapes don't stop playing at all it's the people who is giving up

@wehappyfewmusic

9 ай бұрын

Good work! 🙌

A premium hi-fi VHS should have manual setting of the sound recording level

@wehappyfewmusic

8 ай бұрын

Yes, that is a good feature to have.

Can you multitrack onto vhs ?

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know of a machine that can do multitrack recording onto standard VHS tapes, but Akai made a 12 track recorder which uses their own proprietary VHS style tapes. It’s called a Akai MG1214. Looks super cool but very rare….

@johnkershaw3125

Жыл бұрын

You can multitrack with VHS players using two VHS players linked together to a mixer

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@johnkershaw3125 cool, I’d love to work out how to do that and give it a go! 👍

@johnkershaw3125

Жыл бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic Good sound quality, but it's quite tedious doing it that way.....but yeah give it a go

@ghostcruncher1043

Жыл бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic There's a machine called the Alesis ADAT that uses VHS tapes as an audio format. That might be capable of it.

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@wehappyfewmusic

9 ай бұрын

👍🙌🙏

So the ghetto version of ADAT 🤔

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that’s a good way of putting it! 😅

It should be a VHS with manual setting of the recording level, not one with automatic recording level

@wehappyfewmusic

8 ай бұрын

I don’t own one unfortunately but it would be preferable.

#1: Find hifi VHS #2: it doesn't work #3: buy a solder station and replace the caps that always blow to save the fuse #4: open VHS repair shop #5: Audio recording?

@wehappyfewmusic

6 ай бұрын

Haha, luckily that didn’t happen to me. 😂

Honestly, I don't understand why you copy from a cassette tape to a hi-fi VHS and then to digital. The sound will probably be worse than if you had digitized sounds from the cassette tape all at once

@wehappyfewmusic

8 ай бұрын

Yes, that’s a fair point and it would be higher quality. I was producing a fully analog album at the time though, so was testing out the process.

@Andersljungberg

6 ай бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic ok

that is too easy I want vhs HiFi quality

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out, it’s pretty cheap to give it a go.

wait a moment so your recording from a cassette tape to a vhs and hoping to get something better??? smh. .

@wehappyfewmusic

Жыл бұрын

Not really, I’m just demonstrating the process of recording audio with a HiFi VCR with this video. I’m currently doing a fully analog album so I’m personally interested in how VCR’s have minimal generational loss when doing mix downs (for much less money than reel to reel recorders).

@mikeriverajr4447

Жыл бұрын

@@wehappyfewmusic well i guess feel like an idiot, I stumbled upon this vid, because of watching vids showing the high fidelity of vhs, and figured this was another video demonstrating it the hifi capablities of vhs. . so i was mind boggled when you recorded a low fi casstette source to a hi fi vhs ,