Ive been engineering and producing records for over 13 years (aka: making money for services) and this is the 1st snare re-amp i have ever seen. That sounded amazing. Props to you thinking outside the box and coming up with a solid solution rather then pull the sample/trigger card. I hate to use samples myself because your drum sound shapes the character for the entire recording, it's the 1st shot at putting your stamp on it. To all my fellow engineers, stop chasing what your hearing from your mentors but commit and create your own sounds. Think outside the box! Cheers... Good job brother, really impressed with this video..

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

+Mixskywalker Thanks man!

Hahaha, I think you could make a fortune with Metallica fans and reamp all the snares from St Anger.

@butt_woman1493

7 жыл бұрын

Metallica could win back a lot of fans if they just disowned st. anger

@jasonzenobia4459

7 жыл бұрын

beedoovideo hilarious!!!

@TyCrawford

5 жыл бұрын

I came here just to see if this was the top comment. Thanks for not disappointing

I was skeptical, but, dude, that sounds amazing. Nice work.

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

+andrewt248 Thanks! I was skeptical too when I first tried it.

This really impressed me. I don't usually subscribe to KZread channels even if I enjoy the videos, but this proved to me that you are a real sound engineer so now I have. Keep it up.

I do this all the time on acoustic and electronic drum tracks. Love the sound particularly of a fender twin's spring reverb on a snare. If you're feeling adventurous you can run the whole mix through an amp or maybe an old boom box and blend it in parallel to your master. Cool to see there's others using the same technique. Great content - have a great time recording and creating!

I really like your lo fi approach its very similar to what I'm doing at the minute - using what you have in a creative way to get a distinctive sound rather than rely too heavily on the standardisation of recording techniques that seems over dominant today.

Came here from HoboRec. Excellent channel, subscribed after reading 3 video titles.

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, he did the kick drum reamping right? Great dude and channel.

You my friend are a genius. I will certainly be trying this technique. it's given me an idea of Re-amping a kick through a bass amp.

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, let me know how it turns out!

I've been thinking about this for a while and I think you might be able to use an exciter transducer instead of a typical speaker. In this setup you would put the exciter directly in contact with the head. It will control the ring of the head, but you could add a reverb tail if you want more head ring. The other thing with using an exciter is that you can play around with placement on the head whether you put the exciter in the center or more off center where drummers normally hit the snare. You can pick up a Dayton Audio exciter for about $15 bucks at Parts Express or DigiKey. I think the transducing will give you a much more aggressive attack than inducing a buzz through an external speaker. I'm gonna buy some of these real soon. So I'll report back at some point if/when I do this at my studio.

From one engineer to another, way to think out side the box. Truly brilliant.

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

+Marco Mizzoni Thanks!

Once again you have shown me something that I needed to see! I just did a session the other day and there was some major hi hat bleed on the snare track (I blame it on poor drumming technique, but that's a different discussion altogether). I will be giving this a try! I'm so glad I stumbled across your channel and can't wait for more content! :)

Never thought about this. Very interesting technique!

the best reamp video i've seen

Niice! I've heard about this technique a long time ago when samples and triggers did not exist But I never saw it actually. It was about the snare drum in Fine Young Canibals " She drives me crazy". David Z, the engineer, said " I pumped the processed snare and blended through an Auratone speaker set upside down atop another snare drum, which rattled the metal snares and gave the result some ambience and even more high end". That's an awesome idea!

I first read about this in Tape Op about 15 years ago or so, and have been using it on and of ever since. In my case I was just looking for more of the "snare" sounds since the drum had plenty of pop but no rattle. I just took a Yamaha floor monitor that was laying around and plopped it right on top and then mic'd up the bottom .I was so excited that it worked I darn near peed myself. I like tour tweaks and will have to give it a shot. Finally a use for that old Crate 12" speaker.....

This is probably the best trick i have seen drum wise. Is this your idea or did you pick it up from somewhere? Your videos are grear, very educational, keep going!

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the complement! While it's not a very common technique, I'm not the first to do it. I had to do a lot of experimentation on how to get the best results, and using a microphone on top is a result of my own experiments.

@tommibjork

6 жыл бұрын

Hi, nice to see someone else use this technique. I used to get big kick sound using same "speaker reamping" with a 50 litre plastic bucket. Not kidding. It's all about the resonance.

I was blown away with this! great videos, I use ableton for recording too. Greetings from Chile!

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Wow! That sounds a lot better than one might expect! I'm really impressed.

@creativesoundlab

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Much better than the original!

This is saving my life! I’m not being dramatic- the hours of frustration and tweaking to try to salvage the drum session are now going to be cut way down, allowing me to actually live! Ha! My dumb ass recorded a band live and the drummer had the snares off or something whack so the bottom mic just picked up garbage, and we’re all in the same room wearing earplugs so I saw the meter moving on the channel and thought- we good! No! We were not anywhere close to good! Now with this method- I can have a real, proper snare instead of whatever I managed to fake with a stack of plugins and crap. Also room snare without the swishy cymbals from the untreated room and guitar amp bleed! (now scrounging for wood scraps) Thanks!!!!!!! This is life changing, well, for me anyway on this specific project.

This is why I subbed to your channel. You're the real deal!

Very nice! You can also use small active speaker like Avantone mixcube or genelec 8081 if you are out of guitar speaker. Those monitors are heavy enough to stay on the top and center of the snare without anything to hold them to stay in place.

This is really, really clever, and brilliantly implemented.

This is amazing! I would have never thought of this. thanks for posting!

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joshua!

I'm just amazed!!!!!! I've had similar issues and had no idea how to fix it... suscribed!!!!!!!

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

MrBendertheOffender I was amazed too when I first tried it! Glad it can help you with your mixing too.

Great, fantastic, and also funny to do. As for guitars? Mh, eq matching, that's a life saver.

It's nice seeing this trick in other parts of the industry. I learned this when I was still in school at CRAS.

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Nice, yeah not the first one to do this, but I added my own twist.

@void870

7 жыл бұрын

I had a teacher say, "If it sounds good from where you're standing, put a mic there." There's no right or wrong way to do it, if it sounds great.

@Stefan-

6 жыл бұрын

Contrasting The Void Great advice from your teacher !! In my experience recording and mixing is mainly about listening, i mean really using your ears. People can tell you to do this and that, use this compressor and set your EQ like this and its going to sound great, but if you dont use your ears to tweak it for yourself it will probably sound like crap. Great video BTW !!

You are passionate about post production mixing and I really like your style! Excellent!

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and I'm glad my passion is appreciated. I'm going to start Season Two of these videos very soon.

@bartnettle

9 жыл бұрын

No worries. I love this stuff too. Good on you for doing it. Your space looks good, your got a pro approach and I am sure it will be successful. All the best with it! .

love your content dude. keep up the hard work!

You took a very shitty sounding snare drum and turn it into a pretty decent one. Interesting technique, very impressive.

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

+Manofmanytallets Yes, a little. You can adjust for this and the amount will be depending on your system. If your unsure, you can always play a hi hat track through the snare reamp rig, and see how much of a scoot back it'll take to make it right.

@tmmphono

7 жыл бұрын

6 years ago I attended to a masterclass with Roy Cicala (Record Plant) where he taught us this technique. In that moment I thought "is this really happening?" :) Unfortunately he passed away a couple years ago. Btw, you're providing one of the best content on the internet. Seriously, congrats.

@valentinfaline3397

5 жыл бұрын

Creative Sound Lab hello could you please tell us how do you wire that speaker is it going directly through a di box via your daw or is it much more complicated than that. Btw your show is awesome. Thanks for sharing precious knowledge.

OMG my mind just blow away, i'd never have thought about doing this O:! it's owsom

This channel is fantastic.

Loved your vid! Brilliant idea with excellent results

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

Chad Parker Right on. Thanks!

Hey man...Thank you for your tutorials man...Seriously...They are really great man..

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

This is an awesome idea. I'm going to give it a try. It's got my mind turning over some ideas about an arduino controlled motor drum whacker(prob won't work) To accomplish something like this. Great video though

YOU GIVE ME HOPE

That's one of the coolest things I have seen in a while

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

that sounds beefy and natural after your reamp sesh. Don't usually hear about this but the few times I've seen it done it's impressiv

Wow! Did not expect that to work at all. Great trick as an alternative to triggering.

@creativesoundlab

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words and let me know how the technique works for you!

This is just plain genius. Thank you!

Really cool, man! Great idea! Congrats!

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

Davicokeiro Thanks. Let me know how it works out for you.

Man... you are a genius. Great video!

Very clever technique, i'll be sure to add it to my tool box. Thanks!

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

Lasse Huhtala Thanks!

This is nothing short of brilliant!!!

Pretty creative dude! Thanks for sharing.

Very cool! I wish I knew this trick. Had a session that the snare was totally trash. Went and Re recorded the drums. Although it was worth it. I would’ve tried this first. Thank you!

great advice! thank you for all your videos.

pretty significant improvement! Awesome.

wouldn't have guessed this one - very impressive, and creative

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Thats incredible. Killer sound

I´m a fan of your work!

Dude, seriously, this is brilliant!

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

I actually learned that trick in the early/mid 80s when working as a tape-op, the resident engineer often used it on rythmbox snares to make them sound a bit more realistic...

@creativesoundlab

5 жыл бұрын

Very cool to know that trick. I got it from Michael Wagener.

This is insane. Great tip to know! Thanks for sharing

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Subscribed. Very interesting ideas, and awesome results.

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

YoYo .Kidz Thank you!

It sounds awesome :) Great video

this is the wildest thing ive seen all week. true mad-science going on here

Really, really nice, brother. :) thank you! Excellent videos :)

And one step further would be to use this system when your track has a drummachine. What would happen if the drummachine triggers a live kit, a live snaredrum andvthe room. That one is on my list. Really cool video and loved the results. Kinda 4 times better then the toinky snare.

Hi Ryan. Great video. I've got good results playing the snare track out of a guitar amp combo on it's back with the snare drum batter down on the amp case. Your way is better though as the snare isn't meant to be played upside down! What speaker and amplifier are you using?

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

I think it was a speaker from an old organ, and the amp was a QSC amp. Really you can use anything that will get the drum moving.

Great video mang, seriously creative.

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

SamBassalDrums Thanks!

bravo mate, bravo! That's commitment; the before compared to after is laughable. Have just sessioned about 15 of your vids straight!

thanks for posting this man !

Creat video, the final drum sound is excellent.

This is a really cool technique :) By the way, which console are you using for mixing?

holy shit bud, world class!! great results!!

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

What a cool idea. Sounds way bigger now. I wonder if I could do this with toms as well. Question, what room mic are you using?

This is freaking genius!

This is amazing!

That was the cleverest damn thing I ever saw. Good one, man!

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Wow thanks man!

@keith_hudson

7 жыл бұрын

TheRev I agree. I thought it was brilliant.

Great video btw You say you using an old speaker with an amplifier ? Are you keeping your settings on the amplifier at unity gain ? Another question is are you going from your Daw out to the speaker and recording through microphones and back into your daw ?

Man, you are the best. Thank you.

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

+Erich Zann Thanks!

Your videos are great! I hope you get more views soon, it surprises me you don't

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

TheDintheSpace Thanks for the kind words. Feel free to share them around and post them. I average one video a week released on Tuesdays.

Interesting concept. I wonder if a transducer could work in place of a speaker if it did touch the drum in a spot.

I love your videos man. I really love the fact that you use ableton as well. Are you going to namm?

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Would love to.

So i just found your channel an boy am i happy. Im stuck trying to figure how to make an acoustic Electronic drum kit hybrid. Id love to run the idea by you an hopefully you can point ne in the right direction.

@creativesoundlab

6 жыл бұрын

There's a really cool video on contact mics by the KZread channel HoboRec you should check out. He does a electronic drum kit with it about half way through the video.

Well done man!!!

Very good tutorial!!!!!!!

Wow!! That's awesome! Thank you so much! :D

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Brilliant! Nice Job!

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

thanks!

Brilliant! Thanks!!

this is pure genius

Incredible technique man! Can wait to give this a try, any idea how this works on toms?

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, not sure. It might.

This is gold.

Merci realy cool trigger methode for SD.Thanks from Antibes France.

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

That´s a cool idea :) ... Thanks for sharing.

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Your little intro "song" reminds me of the intro to the TV show Longmire. I like it.

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I kinda went nuts with the vocal effects. The bands credits are at the end of the video.

@gordontubbs

9 жыл бұрын

Oh, lol, I meant the song at 1:56.

@creativesoundlab

9 жыл бұрын

gordontubbs yeah, I could see how it resembles that. No guitar on mine though, it's just a piano that I strummed with a sustain pedal holding a d minor chord I think.

My only two questions are.. Did you re wire the cone with longer wires to keep it attached to the guitar amp? And What ReAmp box did you use?

Is it safe to connect 4 Ohm speaker to mic input? Microphone (like SM57) have 600 Ohm load, while speaker only 4; so is there any impendance problems like short-circuit of mic input? Thank you.

I don't have enough inputs to add a snare bottom mic while recording for my band, this could be a very good trick to add punch attack and precision to my snare after recording ! But what kind of speaker do we have to use for this ?

Incredible.

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Holy shit! Thank you!

Great video.

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

would this work for taking a beefy snare and making it sharp and ringy, for a third wave ska piccolo snare kind of sound? it seems like the lesser amount of initial high frequencies and sharp transient might make it harder to get a good sharp sound.

@creativesoundlab

7 жыл бұрын

This technique works better for going the other way...a snare that has no body and poor snare fullness from the bottom and giving it more. It would be hard to add more ring.

Brilliant.

@creativesoundlab

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video... gonna try it...by the way... you look like Vinnie Paul... :)

amazing!

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

great idea. thanx

@creativesoundlab

8 жыл бұрын

+Vladimir Sergeev Sure thing!

A small tip, even though this is an old video: Make the snare drum track into a midi track. Get a midi controlled drum module (Hardware) For example polyend.com/perc-drumming-machine/ Pick the snaredrum you like, hook it and mic it up and rerecord it. But man, you did a great job here, thumbs up.

way cool. but how do you amp the speaker, and what is the room mic, and how is it stereo, if it’s just one mic. thanks!