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@raymondhacks

Жыл бұрын

The whole ipad lineup, MacBooks, and soon to be iphones because of EU regulation?

@TomGreen99

Жыл бұрын

Pippin _Pippout_

@jebbyy32

Жыл бұрын

The EU has forced Apple back into the chat

@GeniusFacts9

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@ohioplayer-bl9em

Жыл бұрын

They will just go completely wireless. It will work out about as well as their esim. Being the manager of 26 physicians that all use iPhones they all wanted the 14. Out of 5 phones I have had 2 transfer successfully and 3 fail which requires 30-45 minute call to Verizon for them to push it over the network multiple times until it works.

If there's something I can already take away from this video it's that it can't be long before Linus tries to make a PC inside of an electric dog.

@CottidaeSEA

Жыл бұрын

Better than a living dog.

@Anime_Beats

Жыл бұрын

@@CottidaeSEA "Sleeper dog PC" "swap out the organs of your old dog with these new components, just mod the corpse to fit the new parts"

@dominikturk1159

Жыл бұрын

@@CottidaeSEA 💀💀💀

@Dave102693

Жыл бұрын

I would watch lol

@aiden3585

Жыл бұрын

The perfect LAN pc

Always put a reverse protection diode INSIDE the device with barrel jack. And clearly indicate voltage, current draw and orientation on the outside..

@SomeDudeInBaltimore

Жыл бұрын

Reverse protection p-channel MOSFET for low voltage drop.

@Ale-bj7nd

Жыл бұрын

@@SomeDudeInBaltimore yeah that would be better. Depends on the load, the drop might be negligible.

@good_or_goodnt

Ай бұрын

yeah good advice I learned it the hard way my devices were fried after I designed the circuit lazy minded did not include protection

@good_or_goodnt

Ай бұрын

fried my rog ally and a usb device because of poorly designed usb c splitter with power delivery

@BeansEnjoyer911

21 күн бұрын

@@good_or_goodnt never use a USB splitter is the real take away here.

6:58 Negative-tip power cables were common into the 1990s. They seemed to start switching to positive tip when they started using switching supplies. Always verify the polarity for older devices.

Linus probably remembers the early days of cellphone chargers, where basically every model had a different charger, even across a single manufacturer's devices. A "universal" charger to replace a dead or dying charger would come with like nineteen different plugs and had a mile-long compatibility list that you'd have to read through and hope your phone was on there. **shudders**

@vamwolf

Жыл бұрын

Those where dark days......I lived thru...just like Nokia immortal phone...

@tyaty

Жыл бұрын

Back then universal chargers had a dozen type of connectors.

@agentcrm

Жыл бұрын

@@tyaty They still do.

@Jabawalk

Жыл бұрын

And then, Nokia unified their charger using a simple dc plug

@agentcrm

Жыл бұрын

@@Jabawalk Nokia had a few standard charging connectors over the years. Both in multi pin and barrel.

I actually want to see Linus declutter all of LMG with the solution shown in this video.

@tonytom5242

Жыл бұрын

There has been a few attempts in the past

@carloslecina9029

Жыл бұрын

Riley would be pleased with this measure. Wasn't him kind of minimalist?

@shinyhappyrem8728

Жыл бұрын

@@carloslecina9029: yeah, Riley... and Dennis

@Sheikahchu

Жыл бұрын

@@shinyhappyrem8728 Dennis doesn't count, he thinks he's a Minimalist but we all know he's not

@CuppaLLX

Жыл бұрын

na i wan the qi charging overhead light they showed a while back, power eveything from the overhead lights, no wires at all

Fun fact, the NES's power system is designed to work with any 9V source, AC or DC, center positive or negative. Might make having multiple cables a little easier, if the barrels match, you can use the same cable for all earlier devices.

@samuraistrike1

6 ай бұрын

You can also run the NES on double a batteries for about an hour

@jacobhargiss9909

3 ай бұрын

its important to note that barrel size isn't always a garuntee that its the correct voltage. there's not really a defined standard so much as there is a best practice.

@ever611

Ай бұрын

Based power system

FWIW, Brother has a line of label printers that can print directly on heat shrink tubing. That would be *VERY* handy for labelling the different modified USB-C cables.

@iAmVonexX

11 ай бұрын

aaaaand another thing on my shopping list. the PT-E550WNIVP

@KeithOlson

11 ай бұрын

@@iAmVonexX "But, dear, I *NEED* to label all of our garden hoses so the neighbours won't steal them!" :grin:

I'm powering a 19V LG monitor with a 12V laptop charger. There is a voltage regulator inside the monitor that accepts a large range of voltages, provided there is sufficient current. That charger has enough amps, so it works without issues.

@hammerth1421

Жыл бұрын

If you look at the spec sheets or the model number labels of decent-quality devices, you'll often find voltage ranges instead of fixed voltages because they contain an actively regulated DC-DC converter to prevent damage from slight over- or undervoltage. That's usually paired with more crude methods of protection like reverse-bias diodes to ground and fuzes preventing severe overvoltage and overcurrent.

@wowza-

Жыл бұрын

Lots of electronics will work below the rated voltage. That does not mean they will necessarily work well. For example, that monitor may appear to be working fine at the settings you are using, but a setting such as setting to maximum brightness may not be as bright as it would be if it had those extra 7 volts.

@Qwerty-uiop

Жыл бұрын

@@wowza- ok😊

@zeroa69

Жыл бұрын

@@Qwerty-uiop also overtime it may burn out entirly. I had that happen to a lcd monitor that I accidentally plugged in the wrong wallwort that was undervoltage but still worked. Had no idea because they looked identical at first glance and I wasnt paying attention. If I remember correctly the monitor lasted nearly a month before it just wouldnt turn on. Even after figuring out and swapping cords. Luckily enough the external dvd burner that I had swapped cords with was undamaged but it also was only used about a dozen times and had its power cut off after each use via my surge protector.

@ProjectPhysX

Жыл бұрын

@@wowza- not really. I checked the brightness setting and that works as intended. Using lowest brightness (still plenty) for daily operation though to be on the save side. These built-in regulators step down the input voltage to a constant 5V, and then increase it to 53V again for the backlight. The internal buck-boost controller is rated to run between ~4.2-55V and it's even more efficient at 12V input.

Big warning: The pictured conversion cable sold by Console5 for SNES is correct if you are plugging a *center-negative* 5.5mm plug into it. The similar cable that's sold by Castlemania is correct if you are plugging a *center-positive* 5.5mm plug into it. Because the US SNES uses a weird plug it has no polarity protection (or at least the later ones don't). Don't fry your SNES! To make sure, use a meter to confirm that the final 7mm plug is *center-negative* as that is what the SNES expects.

@98ahni

Жыл бұрын

Also don't use the NES power adapter for anything else as it outputs AC instead of DC.

@rijjhb9467

Жыл бұрын

Not only that, but the "worldwide" SNES (AKA the PAL one), runs on AC current not DC. I know, it's weird, but that's how it is.

@rfmerrill

Жыл бұрын

@@rijjhb9467 The "worldwide" one they show is a US NTSC unit. It's the only one that uses the weird plug.

@gblargg

Жыл бұрын

@@violentcabbage9424 I don't really get trying to make consoles more convenient like this. Just for collector value don't go modifying your consoles. Emulation makes things very convenient if that's the overriding concern.

@weberman173

Жыл бұрын

@@98ahni conversly, the NES dosnt care what the fuck you throw at it, it wil just work(as long as its Power regulator isnt overwhelmed.. which would however mean giving it around 2x the voltage it normaly takes anyway) Polarity swapped? AC? DC? fucking Double A?(i know they are just DC) the NES dosnt care.. makes it even weirder they shipped it with an AC Wallplug....

I took a shot at this like 6 months ago when my laptop charger broke and replaced it with a GaN charger USB-C to barrel jack cable. I was surprised it wasn't being discussed much anywhere. But I didn't think to use the same tactic for old game consoles since they can be a bit sensitive

I’m actually amazed Linus did an 11 minute video on USB power delivery and didn’t mention the iPhone!

@tz8785

Жыл бұрын

What's there to talk about? Lightning is just a different connector for normal USB.

@DerrickRG

Жыл бұрын

@@tz8785 The clowns at Apple don't use USB-C on the iPhone. That's the rub.....

@majorgnu

Жыл бұрын

@@tz8785 "What's there to talk about?" And then you proceed to dismiss the elephant in the room you perfectly know is there.

@Kholaslittlespot1

Жыл бұрын

Oh you mean to convert them to usb C?

@Oscar-if6lq

Жыл бұрын

But iPhones already use USB PD?

Would've loved to see Linus doing some soldering action and hardwire a USB-C female end into the old consoles

@matsv201

Жыл бұрын

Why not go all the way and have a USB multiport for charging , screen and controll?

@shinyhappyrem8728

Жыл бұрын

@@matsv201: Graphics output requires a fairly powerful (and expensive) analog-to-digital converter like the OSSC, it makes more sense to use an external device that you can also use with other consoles.

@silverhawkroman

Жыл бұрын

Do you want Louis Rossmann to show up at LMG and slap the living ish out of Linus?

@MD2389

Жыл бұрын

Why stop there? Make the controllers USB-C as well! USB-C all the things! /s

@sonnyrynsaard3567

Жыл бұрын

You can add usb c to the 3ds family of consoles with a cheap USB breakout and some soldering to connect it to the little metal pads that are for charging on the Dock

"Magicians are shifty swindlers who steal your ear quarters" -Linus Sabastian, 2022

@DrBrainTrauma

Жыл бұрын

Whoever wrote this line deserves a raise.

@bcr4832

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't that a twonie?

@murraystorm

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone is finally speaking truth to power on this issue

@ErulianADRaghath

Жыл бұрын

@@bcr4832 I was about to say!

9:56 I was kind of surprised when Linus said “monitors typically use anything from 12-20v power. Boom USB-c.” I have six 28” panels and all of the thick insulated AC cords physically take up a lot of space. I would love to replace them all with USB-c cords but I wonder how much amperage all of the monitors would need? And then with all that current how much thinner the USB-c cords would end up being compared to the AC cords anyway. Maybe if there was a way to daisy chain all of the monitors with USB-c. Five of the displays are the exact same model.

@dsgamecube

Жыл бұрын

You'd have to bypass the monitors' internal power supplies anyway, so that would be a serious undertaking. You could always use a Kill-A-Watt to see how much power they're using. My ASUS MG278Q (27" 1440p 144Hz TN) uses about 28W, so a 12V 3A power supply would be plenty.

@sirspamalot4014

Жыл бұрын

@@dsgamecube most modern monitors have external power bricks, so that's not an issue at all. With power, if your power supply is capable of the right voltage, working in watts is your friend. So look at the wattage of each individual monitor power brick and ensure that whatever supply you have can supply that amount of watts at the specified voltage multiplied by how many monitors you plug into it. For example, 60watt monitor, and you want to run two of them off the one brick, it needs to be able to supply 120Watts to work.

@gaygekko

Жыл бұрын

I was hoping to simplify my monitor's power supply situation as well, but unfortunately mine uses 22V, which isn't within the USB-PD spec :(

@lexecomplexe4083

2 ай бұрын

If the monitors supported thunderbolt 3 or 4, you can easily daisy chain 3 monitors together for video and power. This would bring your total of 12 cables (1 for power, 1 for data) down to just 6 (1 to connect the first monitor in both sequences of 3 monitors, 2 for daisy chaining the other 2 monitors in each sequence). It also brings your total cables to your PC to just 2, 1 for each daisy chain sequence. If it's TB4 or 5, you can even add a storage device or two (YMMV) to either sequence. If they don't have thunderbolt 3 or above though then you're not going to be able to daisy chain for video or power, unfortunately. You can plug 3 into 1 display adapter for less cables directly connected to your PC, freeing up ports on the PC itself, however. And plug 3 power cables into one brick . This doesn't reduce numbers of cables, but it does make cable management much smoother. Plugable has great display extenders/hubs that are quite affordable. I have a 2 port ( though I'm pretty sure 3 and 4 port variants exist now too) that works flawlessly, literally never had an issue. (At time I purchased one:) They come in HDMI, Displayport, and combination variants for easy compatibility, and usb-a and usb-c plug types. Hopefully one of these solutions helps somewhat.

Quite enjoying LTT again at the moment. Keep up the good work and keep having fun!

I love the idea of combining these, with mods for an HDMI out, making an old console so much more convenient for modern use.

@uis246

Жыл бұрын

Or DP, so Type-C Alternative Function can be used. This means USB both for power and video.

@chronology556

Жыл бұрын

@@uis246 TVs don’t have DP and console players tend to play on TVs rather than monitors.

@Humbulla93

Жыл бұрын

@@chronology556 the Gigabyte Aorus FO48U could be used it has DP and 120Hz, it´s an OLED 48 inch big

@poyyoss1200

Жыл бұрын

@@Humbulla93 Thats it, One tele has it its now a generational norm

@yuxuanhuang3523

Жыл бұрын

@@chronology556 Then just get a USB-C hub that supports both HDMI and PD.🤣 (horrible idea actually, but every laptop maker is doing this)

Ya know after 30 years, Capacitors can leak out their fluid, or fall out of spec. It’s probably worth doing a recap on old Consoles. Capacitors are often employed to smooth out ripple, so it could play into these power supply considerations, among others. It could even change the sound of the output, maybe un-nostalgically, or it could restore childhood memory sonic performance.

@CecilTheDarkKnight234

Жыл бұрын

oh yeah any old system like the nes/snes/sega master/genesis/pce/turbo 16 need to be recapped before trying to do something like this.

@SmallSpoonBrigade

Жыл бұрын

And that's even if they bothered to pay for decent capacitors in the first place. Some systems were built with the assumption that they wouldn't still be in use more than a few years later, so cheap capacitors.

@CecilTheDarkKnight234

Жыл бұрын

@@SmallSpoonBrigade well that and there was capacitor shortage/issue in the late 80's and early 90's so they had to use them. This is why so many older systems like the Genesis and Turbo16 have damaged PCB's from cap leaks.

@chublez

Жыл бұрын

@@CecilTheDarkKnight234 Why? They're supplying the same voltages as the original power bricks. Unless you're suggesting you shouldn't use the console at all without a recap I think you misunderstood what happened in this video.

@engineeringvision9507

Жыл бұрын

@@chublez No, it's you who isn't understanding. The console shouldn't be used at all without a re-cap. The caps will be seriously degraded and they will be well outside of their rated hours.

The USB-C to barrel jack cable is my favorite out of all the cables I own. Being able to make older devices operate similar to the new ones is pretty awesome. I have one that triggers for 20V that I use to charge my laptop and if I use it with a USB-C power bank that has a maximum output of 12V I can use it to power a router for easy testing.

@Shibu11229

Жыл бұрын

Which USB-C to barrel jack cable are you using?

@Guru_1092

Жыл бұрын

Give us an Amazon or AliExpress name to search up!

@snowdaysrule2

Жыл бұрын

The item in specific is from amazon and is called "chenyang CY DC 5.5x2.5mm to Type C USB-C Input Cable for Laptop Notebook (5.5x2.5mm to USB-c)" and I paid around $9 for it. I use it with an Asus laptop and Netgear/Arris higher-power modems and routers. It's an awesome cable but be warned it triggers the highest available voltage output of whatever charger/power brick you plug it into so make absolute sure the voltages match!

@Guru_1092

Жыл бұрын

@@snowdaysrule2 Thanks a ton man!

I really like the idea of having one charger for everything But the woodworker side of me really loves how easy it is to clean sawdust out of the lightning port; that thing is invincible and so easy to get clean

I have been researching to do just his thing. I was honestly going to first solder a USB-C replacement for all the mini and micro usb things first before moving on to triggers for other things. You seem to have solved my problem as I didn't know there were triggers that were switchable by soldering pads.

@AaronHendu

Жыл бұрын

There are small $1 adapters on Aliexpress for all of your micro and mini usb to USB-C stuff. That's what I did. They even do an assortment of USB ribbon cable adapters in all sorts of configs!

@brothermine2292

Жыл бұрын

An alternative I like is magnetic-tipped USB cables, which come with a variety of detachable tips: type C, micro-B, and Apple Lightning. The tips are low profile and you keep the appropriate tip in the device's charging port. The other end of the cable is USB type A male, which fits any USB charger that has a type A port (so it also fits the USB ports on a desktop pc or laptop pc). I've seen two styles of magnetic-tipped USB cables: round tips and oval-ish tips. The round tips are good only for charging, but the oval-ish tips have pins for transmitting data too. I chose the oval-ish style, to be able to transfer files between my pc and smartphone. I keep at least one charger + magnetic cable in each room in which I spend a lot of time, and I keep the appropriate tip in each device, so any charger+cable can charge any device. I didn't have to buy any chargers, because enough of the chargers that came with devices I'd purchased in the last 12 years have the type A port rather than a hard-wired cable. A big advantage of keeping the tip in the device is that it eliminates wear & tear on the device's charging port. Last year I had to replace my cellphone because its charging port had become too finicky after several hundred cable insertions.

@vadnegru

Жыл бұрын

2 pin usb c is just nice. Also there are trigger boards with switches, for the times that you need some prototyping.

Funny timing. I just bought a few of these last week for my Super Famicom, N64 , Saturn, Genesis and OG PS1. Nice to see a big tech channel covering retro gaming stuff the way LTT has been recently. 👍👍

This is just the type of video I needed to figure out how to power my battery-powered Xgimi projector for family campouts. Thank you!

Y’all have put out some truly great, informative vids over the years, and this one is right up at the top for me. Good shit.

7:47 Capacitor charge! zap! bad! Should always be a disclaimer to discharge caps before fiddling around with an AC-DC converter board like that.

This video demonstrates what incredible progress has been made in the field of power delivery

The Video I didnt know, I need. I really wanted to do something like this, but just could not finde chargers with the voltages (specifically +12V) i need. Thank you guys! I can now finally contine one of my hundred projects.

I love the skits during your explanation! Y’all need to write those in more often, Linus!

I am thankful for these videos from LTT so I don't get my ear quarters stolen!

As someone who works with folks on GaN device R&D on a near daily basis (I mainly do characterisation such as SEM and XPS), seeing these devices perform so well in the market makes me happy :3

@raifikarj6698

Жыл бұрын

What advancement in GaN industry is going, fast charging everything? Become the microchip? I saw a phone that can take 220watt power and can charge full in under 10 minutes. It was amazing feeling of not to wait longer than go eating something and come back with full charge phone.

This is really cool and something I've been trying to do for many of my devices at home. I've actually passed on buying some new devices that I wanted because they didn't have usb-c charging.

I still have my childhood NES console. Sadly the original controllers and wall-wart got lost and or thrown out over the years. But luckily I picked up a couple of Nintendo original NES controllers recently that look to be in good shape for a decent price. This seems like a good way to modernize the power delivery without having to look for a new wall-wart. Plus it can be used for more than just the NES. :)

I have a lot of adapters like this, including a magsafe connector for the MacBook. Most of the time they work, but sometimes they just don't negotiate properly. It's okay if you're at home but don't rely solely on these if you're on the move outside. Have a backup ready.

Linus: *I will put USB-C on everything.* Apple: *Write that down! Write that down!*

@gwenryanmillett

Жыл бұрын

You mean don't write that down

@zeendaniels5809

Жыл бұрын

@@gwenryanmillett Nope, definitely "write that down. It may come in handy 10 years from now!"

@BrianBGeronimo

Жыл бұрын

Correction: Apple: Look away. Look away!

@Demonologist013

Жыл бұрын

@@gwenryanmillett They legally have to now because of Europe

@Soul-Burn

Жыл бұрын

@@Demonologist013 Kinda. They are required to have USB-C in all devices that are powered by a cable. If they switch to only wireless charging, they don't need to add it.

Having a large collection of old consoles and all of the power adapters that go with them, this is a game changer. This would simplify my set up tremendously! Will do some more research into this. Thank you LTT!

@gblargg

Жыл бұрын

It would definitely make a small setup where you plug in one console at a time easier. Just plug a few things in the back, controllers in, and you're ready. Some video cables have multiple end connectors (e.g. SNES, X-BOX, Playstation 1/2).

USB-C trigger boards make life so much easier as an electronics hobbyist, the ability to have a selection of voltages available out of a regular power bank with a standard cable just makes life better. My 10 year old laptop can now charge from my usb powerbank and my cheap party speaker that only had ac input now has usb-c courtesy of a $3 circuit board. When I travel now I can use the same anker charger for my phone, power bank, and laptop and it fits in the palm of my hand. The days of powerbanks taking all day to charge are gone too, the one I have is 20000mah and does 65w in/out.

@beanor

Жыл бұрын

make THIS video.

For years I´ve been searching ways to reduce the amount of power adapters needed for my networking equipment (cable modem, ethernet switches and single board computers) and also have a energy backup in case of a power outage. Splicing a usb cable to deliver 5 volts or wire a dc power jack to the ups wasnt complicated, specially with the new ones that skip the ac inverter and have usb and 12v dc output for better efficiency. But using usb C is a game changer. Specially the replacement power supplies for old consoles. I remember it was expensive and time consuming to get a replacement power supply for the Dreamcast.

I've actually already done this with my old Wii! I used a 12volt trigger board and a 13 volt comparable USBC brick! So there is actually now a USBC female plug on the console! It works amazingly and is so much more convenient even for a console that doesn't really move.

So cool, the vintage retro video game consoles will sure last forever with these mods. :-) God bless.

ugreen finally approved by linus, lol, i’ve been using their cables for years now

There is also the option of doing PoE for these 5v and 12v devices too! PoE Texas and others have barrel to PoE adapters for sale so you could go that route too!

I've been using their 100W charger and a couple of their cables for a three months now. It's very convenient, I don't have to carry anything else, just one brick and a couple of cables to charge everything! It's doing a good job charging my laptop, phone and smart watches at the same time - I'm glad I bought them and not anything else

@Chronostra

Жыл бұрын

Just curious, what's better quality in your experience, ugreen, baseus or anker? Is ugreen really have a good track record on their products?

@MrSilverGibson

Жыл бұрын

I didn't have a chance to use Baseus or Anker, but from reviews, teardowns and tests that I've seen - Ugreen's 100w charger built with high quality components and there shouldn't be any issues with it. The packaging and brick itself feels like an Apple product, in my opinion. Cables that I use feels premium and robust, one of the best sleeved cables I've seen and used.

I have a few adapters and cables to convert to USB C for older laptops, what I discovered is every single cable and adaptor like this will draw power even when no device is connected this is why when you see linus plug in the second cable with nothing connected it did a hand shake as if you plug in a standard cable that does not happen until a device is connected to the other end, so you technically cant live this sort of thing plugged in 24/7 unless you can turn the socket off as it will always be drawing power no matter what.

I have been thinking to change my laptop to USB C for a while but didn't want to mess it up. I'm so glad to see someone make a video about it.

@trevorhart4120

Жыл бұрын

Look on Aliexpress, they have cables. I ran my Asus laptop for years off usb C.

I love these types of videos. Can you make a video on different types of usbc cables (power delivery, ect)

I've actually thought of doing this for a very long time so this video is cool to see.

This video alone would be the greatest sponsorship campaign for UGREEN products

Note: garage door photoeyes are not just powered, they send a signal over the wires back to the head unit, as on modern units, they are "monitored" to make sure they are working correctly. So you cant just add USB-C, unless you were just going to run a 20' ish USB-C cable to connect the 2 terminals. but that would be alot more expensive than just using the low voltage wire they come with, or cat-5 wire that builders usually bury into the wall/ceiling to hide the wiring >.

The NES and SNES original power supply outputs 9V AC! Since the circuit inside of the consoles can also take in 9V DC this method is valid, but some devices may not work with DC when they want AC. If you trying this you could damage your device.

@samuelw4584

Жыл бұрын

MattKC did a video on this a few months back. In a lot of these consoles they'll take DC just fine, it just goes through the rectifier and continues onwards as intended.

@wiiion1256

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelw4584 yes i know but the fact is still that on some device this could not work. And trying it without potentially damaging a device is not the greatest idea. The NES/Famicom and SNES as I mentions are devices that also accept DC because how they convert AC to DC which makes this “mod“ totally fine.

I know people like to keep retro consoles "Stock" but when it comes to power bricks, it can be a little dangerous. Components do degrade over time, capacitors leak, electrical isolation material becomes flakey. So with most being 30+ years old. This is actually a really smart solution. Last thing you want is the rectifier failing and it shunting straight 230v into your beloved old console :S

the fresh hand shake is needed to correctly distribute power, each gan unit will outline what its power distribution ratio is when different ports are under load

Wow, this is something super useful to my day to day.

Like the idea, but I think its more advantageous to do something you would take with you like an eletric razor vs a console, so that you don't have to take its proprietery charger too.

@milesbush9589

Жыл бұрын

The advantage here is reduced clutter moreso than anything else and I think it accomplishes that goal masterfully

@SanctorumDivinity

Жыл бұрын

My 2 Laptops,Toothbrush,Shaver,Flosser chargers have all been USB-C'efied

@ShinyElGhosteo

Жыл бұрын

​@@milesbush9589 The NES/SNES/GEN do benefit, but i think the PS1/DC/N64 don't gain anything since they don't have wall warts. If anything it makes it less convenient unless you already needed to replace the power supply and cant source a replacement

I have a lot of ugreen products and they have all pretty much worked great.

UGreen is awesome. I usually go them for USB power cables and them and Uni for display cables

There's good reasons to change the power supplies in consoles, I've already done a few MEGADRIVES/Genesis and MasterSystems replacing the 7805s with buck converter modules means there's no heatsink required and cuts down the overall temps which is noice. and for the other systems Dreamcast, Saturn etc it can help with failing PSUs and be more efficient for installing mods like ODD replacements. There's some really nice options for GameGears and Gameboys too for USB type C.

@Chronostra

Жыл бұрын

Really? So basically I can rip out my Dreamcast psu safely and mod it that way?! Oh I'm kinda hype to resurrect this bad boy, been sitting gathering dust in my collection shelves

@TheSynrgy1987

Жыл бұрын

@@Chronostra did you watch the video? they do that in the video

@Chronostra

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSynrgy1987 watch the video? Yes. Understand the explanation? no.

These console mods and adapters are great ideas! If there's one thing I worry about with vintage consoles its is the power supplies giving up the ghost. Some of these are very difficult to replace due to their rather proprietary nature. Being able to power them using a standard that's gonna be around for many years to come (I hope) will hopefully keep these machines going for a lot longer. (Of course this only half works with things like the Dreamcast. I'm more worried about the motor in that thing calling it quits. Perhaps there's an SD card solution for that thing...)

@Code7Unltd

Жыл бұрын

>Dreamcast >Perhaps there's an SD card solution for that thing... There are already ODEs. GDEMU is a popular one

@mirage809

Жыл бұрын

@@Code7Unltd Excellent news! Good to hear that such a product exists. Those GD ROMS and their drives won't live forever.

@TooBokoo

Жыл бұрын

Most of the SNES, NES, and Genesis power bricks have a single electrolytic capacitor that simply needs to be changed out, and they're as good as new. Same goes for the internal PSU on things like the Dreamcast, PS1 and Sega Saturn, a few new caps and it's like new. The power supplies, very rarely, outright die.

@RedArremer

Жыл бұрын

I use Triad Magnetic replacement PSU's. It's a lot cheaper than the better quality USB power options (if you want quality supplies). On power boards you can access inside the console, I just recap those with Nichicon capacitors.

@noyukikun

Жыл бұрын

speaking about dreamcast specifically 100% DEFINITLY DO NOT DO A USB C power brick for one it needs more power then a usb c cable can even handle and will more then likely fail fry the console and probabally start a fire theres already other options for it anyway

I converted my childhood GBA SP to USB-C a few months ago. It even outputs the audio over USB-C, so I bought one of those splitter dongles (without the DAC) and now I can charge it and use headphones at the same time!

The SNES and NES in most markets have internal FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIERS, so input polarity doesn't matter, they came with AC adapters, not DC adapters.

Hilarious handshake skit! Great work by those two

Hell yeah this is helpful

at many workplaces, tripping over cables is one of the biggest working hazards. We have floor tank sockets which help a bit, but I hate how not every powerbrick fits in there or use the same C13/C14 plug. So I need extension cables and socket-hubs and a cablechain stuffed with 8+ beefy cables. So you're telling me I could get rid of all those beefy 230V (Europe) cables, and just use one good quality USB-C powerhub to power-delivery my whole desk? That's a game changer.

I have an SP404sx sequencer, and i cut out the AA batt compartment, and put a battery bank in it, then added a usbc port for charging. Lasts like 3 times as long and its an absolute dream

I would love to do that on laptops that don't support usb-c pd natively

It's kind of funny to see this video right after implementing USB-C PD for a new product. Can confirm, USB PD is a labyrinth of optional features, most of which don't matter and are a bit of a waste of time to look at. Linus did a surprising good job describing how it works :).

Yay ltt intro I always love when it's here

that is really cool and now I want everything converted to usb-c as well

I've been at it for awhile...almost everything that can be is powered by USB-C now. Simple Aliexpress adapters handled 99% of it. And buck / boost converters for the rest.

If anything, I want a USB-C port on my old arcade sticks. It still bothers me that a number of arcade stick manufacturers use proprietary ports (even if they have detachable cables). Hell, I wish that Sony would do a reprint of the DualShock 4 that uses USB-C.

@chrisconaway2334

Жыл бұрын

They can't do a reprint of something that never existed in the first place. Sony never made that lol

@richardhunter9779

Жыл бұрын

Just swap out the PCB, bro. Arcade sticks are only ever dated by the PCB, the rest is compatible 40 years back.

@SkribbleNL

Жыл бұрын

might be worth opening up and see how its connected on the inside because it might just be a passthrough port for the detachable cable so then you only have to replace that. I use a Neutrik usb a,b for my own made arcadestick and could easily swap it to something else and there are loads of options. So I hope they made it easy to change cause then it should be an easy and cheap fix to get it to usbc 😅. I also wanted to see if I could change my ds4 to usb c but that seemed not worth it at the time

@superpie64

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisconaway2334 explain

@ArpeggioPegasusMusic

Жыл бұрын

Look into Brook converters

i bought a few products from ugreen and they were all great besides a silicone ubsc to lighting cable it just broke like a bone on the lightning port side so if you consider buying any cables from them i recommend buying the meshed ones.

This is exactly the same item I bought! Very good product from Ugreen. Very reliable, as all my Ugreen bought products are still working even the ones from 2017. A real competitive rival to Anker, imo.

Re: barrel jack polarity- I had a sega master system, which my friend’s dad plugged in an NES adapter to. It ended up blowing a transistor, which sega replaced when I sent it in. Just a heads up for anyone trying this.

Might aswell put it on the rtx 4090 at this point, even that will perform better than the current fireplace one

@andrescarrasco1248

Жыл бұрын

Currently USB c pd can deliver up to 100 watts, it will need 6 USBs c to make it, but USB 4 pd will in theory deliver up to 250 so 3 of those will do it too

@DanielGyimesi

Жыл бұрын

@@andrescarrasco1248 it was a joke.

@CottidaeSEA

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielGyimesi We don't do that around these parts. Not when USB-C is involved.

@andrescarrasco1248

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielGyimesi I know but it's actually possible, in fact I wouldn't be surprised at all if some brand of both PSUs and GPUs decide to try it, pretty sure because of the amount of USB Cs that are being made right now, it would make financial sense

A word of caution for anyone trying to do this: Many USB-C PD wall adapters are designed to be battery chargers, not power supplies. What's the difference? Power supplies have the capacity to hold up to inrush current, peak loads, tight tolerance on voltage and ripple, etc. Even a 5-10watt device (like a cable modem) on a 45watt name brand USB-C PD adapter is not a good combo. Another example of the difference between a power supply and battery charger is the example Linus gave, of how the power is momentarily interrupted when plugging or unplugging other ports on the wall adapter. USB-C PD wall adapters were never designed to be power supplies, and you can tell.

That's awesome. I love that my Ugreen charger supports Samsungs Super Fast charging protocol.

As an old IC tech for nuke plants, I so appreciate you do not get scared to toss out some real electronic details! Keeps me coming back :)

@beanor

Жыл бұрын

yea...some of us are lucky to be related to engineers...but electrical knowledge needs to be more pervasive in tech. some things dont need software to improve.

@pde2619

Жыл бұрын

Homer

Great video. I imagine this is going to solve a lot of headaches for retro gamers who want to keep using the original consoles over the next few decades. I want the short circuit hoodie bundle to go on sale. lol

Now I got some new projects next year.. Thank you Linus

They should offer this for fibre onts and routers. The biggest resistance we used to get for sign ups was unlike copper lines the fibre doesn't work in a power outage...but it could.

This is absolutely the best application for this sort of power delivery. Honestly, I feel like we still need an Anthony and Alex build video of some sort to construct something retro-epic!!

@jpfidalgo7

Жыл бұрын

This, yes please. Thank you!

@iAmVonexX

11 ай бұрын

yes! like the origin big o but with retro consoles or something alike

This is gonna be massive specifically for touring production people like myself that have to carry a ton of power bricks with a lot of our dc gear. Converting to usb-c will save a ton of weight and room in my pack

@jcon6734

Жыл бұрын

Make sure you check the current requirements before you get too excited. USB PD can supply most common voltages, but the current is more limited. Don't expect to more than 3 amps out of most setups - 5 amps if you shell out for more expensive chargers and cables.

@beanor

Жыл бұрын

all the pedal supplies :D

I liked the video, and it almost has me thinking about doing this with my old consoles (though I'm fearful of bricking them). But what I'd make USB C right away is the thing this video glossed over the fastest: my monitor. I really have to make an assumption for how this is done. I assume it's one of the USB C to barrel cables shown earlier in the video (making sure I get the polarity correct)? I just wish there were links to where to get one and what to look for, and not just links to the sponsored products. Or just spend another ten seconds there at the end of the video to explain what we need. I know you were going for a rapid-fire sort of thing, but it was at the cost of helpful information.

There is a catch: The power delivery bricks with multiple usb c outlets, renegotiate the protocol when a device is plugged or unplugged. So, your console will reset when is connected to the brick and another devices is plugged. I learn that when I was using a usb c powered mini pc, when I want to connect the monitor, the PC resets itself

An alternative I like is magnetic-tipped USB cables, which come with a variety of detachable tips: type C, micro-B, and Apple Lightning. The tips are low profile and you keep the appropriate tip in the device's charging port. The other end of the cable is USB type A male, which fits any USB charger that has a type A port (so it also fits the USB ports on a desktop pc or laptop pc). I've seen two styles of magnetic-tipped USB cables: round tips and oval-ish tips. The round tips are good only for charging, but the oval-ish tips have pins for transmitting data too. I chose the oval-ish style, to be able to transfer files between my pc and smartphone. I keep at least one charger + magnetic cable in each room in which I spend a lot of time, and I keep the appropriate tip in each device, so any charger+cable can charge any device. I didn't have to buy any chargers, because enough of the chargers that came with devices I'd purchased in the last 12 years have the type A port rather than a hard-wired cable. A big advantage of keeping the tip in the device is that it eliminates wear & tear on the device's charging port. Last year I had to replace my cellphone because its charging port had become too finicky after several hundred cable insertions.

@flameshana9

Жыл бұрын

I use magnetic cables as well. There's really no reason not to if you don't have usb C devices.

Type C is amazing and the flute in SMB3 is in the third level

Super Famicom, Mega Drive, Master System all run on 9V~10V same plug same polarity. I have a big clumsy 3 output adaptor from back in the days where one hunk powers a game console and a Game Doctor and a CDrom in all. vs 3 seperate power bricks and its Universal current too ;)

One thing to note about the consoles that originally took AC power is that if they weren't switch-mode (the N64 at least is not) this also fixes that as an issue.

ugreen is really awesome company been using their cables and adapters for a year or so and they work superb 😊

My first UGreen PD brick lasted about 4 months before it kicked the can. Do you guys have any experience with short lifespans of their products?

UGreen seem to have come from nowhere, but I now buy a lot of their stuff. All rock solid. Had a lot of issues with Anker over the years

@5g_schitzo863

Жыл бұрын

Stop shilling Amazon garbage.

Funny you mentioned this, I have Both my Analogue Super NT, and Mega SG running off of a USB Hub.

Actually, the SNES AC adapter doesn't output DC (at least the PAL version I used to have). It does output about 9 volts, but it's still AC when it comes out of the barrel plug, and the console internally rectifies it into DC... YEAH, so, polarity doesn't really matter in this case. That's why you didn't kill the console. Given that NES and MD/GEN can use the same AC adapters as SNES, I'll just assume they do that too.

@aperson9495

Жыл бұрын

Same for the US NTSC version. 9V AC.

@sirspamalot4014

Жыл бұрын

In the pictures they've used, the genisis says it's outputting DC voltage, meaning it would care if reverse polled. You're right that the snes outputs AC, so internal rectification will take care of any reverse polarity issues,

Linus: How to Put USB-C Power on ANYTHING (almost) Apple: Dongle Envy!

That handshake feature is very usefull, I was using a oneplus charger (non pd I think) on a esp32 with USB C. Quickly plugged in my computer to charge, then back to the board and it fried it with 20V

Seeing linus work on stuff is way more entertaining than linus talking about something

Linus smells nice

If you need a special cable, might as well stay with the barrel jacks.

I have Massage and heating seat covers for cars set on my gaming chairs(3) with a USB-C PD adapter. My gf and daughter love it, so do I.

I understand that Usb-C is universal but you still need the barrel end since the Usb-C port is only for the charger side... Since these systems aren't really portable, wouldn't it make more sense just to buy a universal barrel charger? It's cheaper and u can use it on all ur devices that have a barrel port since u can change the voltage output and the barrel size.

@beanor

Жыл бұрын

yea....he shoehorned the use case for the sponsor. now hes looking like apple....selling adapter adapters.

That fancy cable with the chip is a neat idea if you don’t have a spouse or child that might disconnect something and reconnect it to the wrong device. It’s well worth the extra effort to mod the console with a smart USB-C port that will work with any USB-C cable. That said, I also don’t bother using any of my old consoles from my childhood, because I’m fine with building little emulation devices that look neat-but I might consider ridding myself of micro-B connectors on devices that are large enough to support a change.

@tannermccoolman4647

Жыл бұрын

Any excuse to get rid of micro USB is a good excuse