He never actually explained how to prevent milk spotting.

@lamarravery4094

Жыл бұрын

You can't prevent milk spots. Some mints use borax in the minting process and that's what causes it. Not every coin milkspots, I heard it's about 30% of them do.

@beng2708

2 ай бұрын

NEWER Canadian maple leafs are your best bet if you don't want milkspots.

I dont mind milk spots cuz it's still silver at end of the day.....great vid

Me personally i rather buy a cleaned up maple than a milk spotted one

Silver dragon. I’m new to your channel and new to stacking. I’m catching up on your prior videos and learning a lot, so thank you. Prior to this video, I didn’t know this was a problem and I’m glad I stumbled upon it because I have 2021 maple leafs of their way.

When you need a coffee you can always throw a maple in your cup that way you get your milk and healthy dose of silver at the same time haha..

And you never said how to prevent

@my3dviews

4 жыл бұрын

By buying coins that don't milk spot, such as the newer Maple Leafs (2018 and later), or from other mints that produce coins that don't milk spot in the first place. Otherwise there is no way to prevent it.

@jcs27

3 жыл бұрын

you can't, its up to the mint to produce it that way or not, you can prevent it by knowing what year/mint to look for and don't play yourself, also by getting them in person

@jrmm4507

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t effect the value of the actual coin as it’s silver content is the exact same and thats the value of course. However it will effect the premium on more collectible coins and as people are saying there is nothing you can do to prevent it unfortunately..... I WISH THERE WAS 😂

A light wiping with a jewelers cloth works wonders...it's already not very good looking anyway. As long as you don't overdue it, it shines them right up with no noticeable cleaning marks. Thanks for the video SB!

@SilverLimey79

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks TB... I have one of those

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Talking Bullion yeah iv also heard erasers work 🤷🏽‍♂️🔥🐉

@whoops8412

3 жыл бұрын

I personally have been trying to clean off my US Olympic Team silver bar and the whole 1 side is all milk spotted. I’ve done everything with my silver clothes to rub or scratch y off but it won’t go away :( I thought I bought a fake bar until I found this video and realized it’s just a milk spot which I guess is normal... It’s not RcM but still disappointing the shine is gone on 1 side

Thanks Baggins. I learned some things from this video. Helpful for me.

To prevent milkspots on silver coins and bars, I personally recommend this method: 1) About every 2 weeks give a light wipe with a cloth (such as the one used for glasses) or if available, silk. The cloth must still be clean and dry, so that it does not contain potentially abrasive impurities. 2) Always keep silver objects encapsulated without leaving fingerprints on them, and cover the capsules with silicon bags (such as those used for wardrobes and clothes). In the absence of these, grains of rice, as these too the latter absorb moisture, primary cause of the milkspots.

You could also buy ones for spot that have already gotten milk spots.

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Alex Coin Roll Hunter that would be nice if my LCS did that 🔥🐉

Yeah, it's that chemical detergent. Mind you, it might take years, on years to spot up, but most are already contaminated even before leaving the mint. Great video!-MS

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Menehune Stacker right so best to just stay clear.. thanks so much!! 🔥🐉

Hi! I recently read an article about the Canadian Mint changing their final Rinse/WASH in 2018 to try to prevent milk spotting! Small silica caps,the type used in meds to keep humidity out work really well, also. *Sometimes the humidity in homes is much higher than people realize. I even put 4 in bank box!

@steelemerald300

Жыл бұрын

I would be careful with any wash at all on proof coins as it can hurt the finish

@voidremoved

Жыл бұрын

@@steelemerald300 No he meant at the mint it is called "mint shield" I think. Done in the manufacturing of the coin

Would milk spots migrate from one coin to the next in a tube?

I remember an old trick I read about used to protect steel tools. Put a bit of camphor into the tool box. The coating would protect the tools from rusting. Perhaps it prevents silver oxidation too?

Yes, I agree. The bottom line is that those that are prone to spotting cannot be prevented. So, do your research and buy from those Mints that don't have a history of spotting. Thanks for sharing.

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

SalivateMetal yes for sure thanks so much for watching my friend!! 🔥🐉

What effect does humidity have on silver bullion coins and rounds? What is best way to store long-term? Tubes?

I have some 2021s maple leaves, all around the edges there are milk spots (on the sides). That mint shield stuff doesn't seem to extend into the edges/sides

Interesting info. I had to go through my silver the other day and didn't notice any milk spotting on anything. I guess I've been lucky so far. Thanks again and take care.

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Clayton County History Hound yeah that is great and thanks a lot! 🔥🐉

@brushstroke3733

Жыл бұрын

What kind of climate do you live in? Is your home air dried by constant air conditioning amd heating? I'm curious if maybe humidity is the cause. I doubt Air Tite coin capsules are actually air tight like a true vacuum sealed container. I think they're mostly physical protection and offer limited protection from atmospheric conditions like humidity and oxygen.

It’s hilarious how totally unconcerned the RCM was with milk spotting prior to introducing their Mint Shield technology. Their answer to complaints used to be that it didn’t matter what bullion coins looked like so just shut up and go away! 😂

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Stephen Parsons yep haha now they are bragging about them being shielded 😂🔥🐉

@happymtdude539

3 жыл бұрын

It funny they call it Mint Shield "Technology" ... when they probably could have just added the product enhancement without mention. The marketing department recognized they were having trouble because of poor product history

@jfryer485

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people mention borax but any metal will oxidise and even silver. Moisture and oxygen will oxidise the silver over time and typically silver oxide will be white or milky but in years past this oxidation would be multicoloured eventually going black. To prevent oxidation is not easy and it seems people who live in a marine environment with salt in the air are worst while those in dry places do best. I keep my coins in capsules, inside mahogany coin cabinets in an atmosphere of 20 per cent humidity and very little variation of temperature. I have not noticed milk spotting but have rainbow coloured silver from 30 years ago and totally black silver from 200 years ago. Today and for many years the silver in coins is now at levels of purity never seen before and so the oxidation is likely to be of a new kind such as this milkiness. I have yet to be convinced that borax is involved though and certainly not ingrained in virtually pure silver. In theory strong ammonia solution should remove the oxide layer if this is the cause. In my childhood I used to varnish the coins as the varnish can be removed. The only problem is it either worked or if there was a gap then the oxidation would be very localised. I suspect any shielding would be to put a very thin layer of some protective material on the finished coin.

Like South Park says “Blame Canada!” 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Silver Heist lol pretty much 🔥🐉

I purchase from the royal Canadian mint mostly maples, they are just so shiny and I love the design. I only buy 2018/2019 coins from them since they are not suppose to milk spot.

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

calderon2091 nice and that is the way to go!!! 🔥🐉

Deterioration of the stampings over time is part of my reasoning for not having many numismatic coins. I do have a few constitutional numismatics mostly to cover birth years of my relatives. Then one series that I am attracted to the stamping. Honestly it is the one of a kind art work of pours that I find more personally satisfying. Compared to repeated art of a stamping. Do you want a print or an original?

Or you can look at it this way. Spotting usually occurs on real silver. One way of knowing your coin isn't a fake. Not saying that none spotters are fake. Dragon is correct. It gets down to certain Minters. Also keep an eye out for British mint coins spotting.

Interesting, thanks for the useful tips!

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Tom Lee you got it thanks for watching!! 🔥🐉

I think the Royal Canadian Mint just changed how they clean the planchettes.. But like you said they are not clear about it... Really no way to stop them since it happens from the planchette cleaning process..

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Silver Wolverine yeah so just don’t buy from them 😂🔥🐉

I"m buying silver as an investment. So I take it the idea is to buy no older than 2018 coins? I just started buying silver and most of mine are 2020. How long will it take to milk spot and will that be a problem with the newer coins?

It’s such a shame that they just now figured out this mint shield technology if it really does prevent milk spotting now - but the reason I say that is because they make such beautiful coins... and 2017 and before are all spotting that’s so much coinage it makes me cringe!!! Great video bro your killing it and I’m learning a lot from watching you. You are one of the main inspirations for my channel. Keep doing what your doing bro your gonna go far my friend!

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Lakehousebeach thanks a lot my friend I appreciate it! 🔥🐉

The process the Royal Canadian Mint developed consists of a "super cleaning" process with chemicals they use during the minting process. The term "mint shield" is a bit misleading, because the coins are not coated with anything, they are simply super cleaned and this solved this age old process problem finally and as far as I know, completely.

Would spraying the coin with a light gun-oil spray to keep them sealed from air help coins from spotting

I have beautiful 2016 reverse maple leaf privy (howling wolf) and none of them have milk spots. Just to be clear, are these coins going to milk spot in the future? If they haven't milk spotted now and its been 3 years are they in the clear? I am learning about this now and I spent a lot of money on a roll of 25 coins. They are so beautiful. I cant believe they will become ugly with time even with my careful handling of them. Very sad.

I actually try and find people who will sell me milked maples because of the price and i love em.

I attest, the latest RCM coins, 2018 and beyond are OK. The Royal Mint(UK) however is still quite problematic. I have Royal Mint 2020 coins that have milk spotted. Perth Mint coins are still the best. My silver Koalas and Kookaburras are perfect. No spots even after 3 or 4 years.

@fluxcapacitor4609

9 ай бұрын

Perth Mint coins don't milk-spot?

Maybe the plastic capsules that Canadian mint use are reacting with the silver when there is temperature variations? Not all plastics are the same. BTW, a clean white rubber will get rid of milk spots.

I have two boxes of 2017 maples with no milk spots but I have some American eagles that do!

Great Advice. Keep it up!

I have three 2021 Perth Super Pit coins. All have milk spots. Not happy.

I was wondering what caused the milk spotting, I didn't read very much but the jist of what I read was it had to do with what they used to clean or prep the planchet. So, some type of cleaning agent or oil that would contaminate the coin as it was struck I guess? Kind of surprising they waited so long to correct it, maybe they had a deal with a company providing them the solution that they didn't want to back out of. Lol

I would also like to ad my Mayflower brand jewelry cloth removed most of the spots. Seems to work better on newer coins. After seeing all of the black on the cloth afterwards I realized the coins weren't as clean as you would expect.

Great video!

I just bought a silver 1oz Britannia 2022 brand new from online retailer, and it came with milk spot. So I guess the mint that makes our British Britannia have not learned the secret yet!

I just bought a sealed and graded American eagle West Point mint and it has a small white dot on one side and small tone spot on other half of coin face. Kinda frustrating!!!

Probably added a small amt of baking soda during the refining process to bring the acidity at some level back to 7. (Neutral). Refined out with water at a further stage.

Great presentation!

good info!

I got milk spot on South African "Kruger Rand 2020" and Austrian "Philharmoniker 2019". Very heavily on Austrian one.

My Britannias all have milk spots after I took them out from the tube. I did not wear gloves so I believed it can be prevented with proper handling. But since I'm stacking in lieu of the crashing monetary system, I guess the spots doesn't matter

Mint shield is a chemical that is apart of the powder used for the impurities that sticks to the powder when there down with melting down that suff stuck to the bar is called slag.

I love maples and Canada coins, ill take them spotted or not!!

I always have a couple coins out on my desk, usually one in my pocket. I am sure they will get milk spotted or tarnished, but i don't really care to be honest. All my other silver will sit in the tubes they came in never to be touched.

@marvinlessknown3702

2 жыл бұрын

exactly. enjoy it!

I have a 2016 1ozt penegren falcon and a 2017 polar bear from CRM and the polar bear has milk spots starting and the falcon has not spots . So weird. I know they are only bullion but they should maintain their surfaces finish in a airtight. It sucks. I bought some 2020 maples and if they spot i wont be buying anymore CRM products..

@HDDynalowrider

3 жыл бұрын

Update the penegren falcon Is milk spotting..

Backyard bullion did a video about removing milk spotting and he used a pencil eraser. You would never want to do it to a coin with numismatic value but I tried it on one of my kangaroos and it worked pretty good.

@alabonga

4 жыл бұрын

It removes the milk spot but leaves hairline scratches which makes it even worse.

I thought milk spotting was from borax or something being accidentally “baked” into the metal at the mint, nothing to do with what happens after it leaves the mint. What I’ve learned and thought...

First, it's the cleaning process. They along with MANY mints used the same detergent on their coins. The Special feature is to do with the lazer etching with the maple leaf. I buy tonnes of these and will buy from anyone over spot. I love milky coins!!!!

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

jonrms you like em for melting? 😏🔥🐉

@AceBullion

5 жыл бұрын

@@SilverDragons47 yep!!!! I keep buying them and paying over spot because others paid alot for what is now junk or scrap silver

I'll just stick with the ASEs man! Cool video!

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Bruce Liggett yep that’s what i’m doing this year for sure!!! 🔥🐉

"People don't really like clean stuff" Where I live stained coins put in auctions end up less than those who are shiny. I won one by betting really low just for fun and it worked. Bought the coin for a little less below spot actually. Took a rubber, removed the spots, put it on sale again and received a tad bit more as I would have to pay in any local shop. The difference allowed me to buy a new coin for half the price because of this story :D it was a one time only and I did it just for fun. But it worked. And it was no auction house but just a simple online auction server where people can offer their things they no longer want.

Could be some kind of polishing compound. Like in jewelry they use all different polish methods to get different results.

Hey Baggins great channel. But for me milk spotting or any other issues do not bother me in the least its only bullion...if they were proof coins that would be a major problem...I like to handle my coins no flips no tubes no airtites. Hey but each to his own..

I watched a video of a guy who cleaned the milk spotting by using a white eraser. Supposedly it leaves micro scratches but it erases the milk spots and will be good for run of the mill stacking.

I HEARD THAT C2C STREAM !!!! I FORGOT HIS NAME BUT VERY GOOD LOOKING GUY!!!! GREAT CO HOST YOU SHOULD HAVE HIM ON AGAIN!!!! YOU ROCK BAGGINS !!!!! 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Novus Stacker lol let’s do it again for sure 😏🔥🐉

Could it be bacteria or fungus???

I have a NGC Maple Leaf with spots, I am sure it would not be a MS69 if the spots were present when it was graded.

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Bob Wojcikowski correct they must have showed up after grading 🔥🐉

Then, how do I prevent the milk spots, as the title states?

Subbed Great work

I just bought a 100' 2024 Maples and a dozen of them have milk spotting??!

That's kind of why I buy poured silver cuz i'd be mad about milk spots. Going to buy ASE's, Morgan's, and constitutional silver cuz they don't really milk spot. Great vid bro🐉👍

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Split Spade yep you will never see a milk spot on constitutional that’s for sure!! 🔥🐉

@almostliterally593

2 жыл бұрын

ASE milkspots ocassionaly but not badly

why is someone opposed to a cleaned coin? micro scratches?

Got a bunch of 2018’s with milk spots brotha. ASE’s for me only.

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Silver Surfer ugh that’s a bummer but yeah ASE rock! 🔥🐉

If you consider maples as coins dont clean them, if you consider them as bullion you could use baking soda and aluminum.

I guess I'm lucky out of about 3000ozs I only had 2 coins that had milk spots and they were maples

@williamjohnson650

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

I was always told the milk spots on the maples were because the mint didn't get all their cleaning solution off the coin before it went in the oven. I only have 5 regular maples & 4 reverse proofs and I immediately put them in a 38mm Airtite and I never seem to get any.

@brushstroke3733

Жыл бұрын

I have an American Silver Eagle that I bought in 2015. It came in a capsule and I have never removed it, but it is almost entirely clouded over now. I live in a coastal area with frequent marine layers and high humidity, and I don't have air conditioning (and very rarely use heating) to dry the air in my home. I suspect moisture is the cause of the milk clouding.

2 oz queens beast has issues with milk spots - even the 2020 white horse has issues. Falcon, Griffin, Dragon, all have milk spots. Sealed them all upon their arrival in air tite capsules.

I was wondering what I should do as I don’t want to buy a massive amount of coin holders but I have A LOT of high premium silver! Lol queens beast, Perth stuff lol

I think of alkaline solutions, like caustic soda or ammonia solution. My "peregrine falcon" is going to be tested with ammonia cleaning. The borax removal is interesting to try at least.

I feel I wasted a lot of time watching this as there was no discussion on how to actually PREVENT milk spotting on coins you already own. The title of the video is misleading.

@lunarsoles

3 жыл бұрын

I've figured out that you can use desiccant to reduce the chance of milk spotting or vacuum sealing them when they are bought

@jrmm4507

3 жыл бұрын

@@lunarsoles I’m sure that doesn’t even work as it’s to do with the minting process itself

@DoobieDrewski

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking

So, it's been a while since I've purchased any silver.. Are there any silver coins out there that don't have milk spots now? Perth Mint? RCM? Austrian Philharmonics?

@SilverDragons47

4 жыл бұрын

RCM is much better. also PERTH is great! Phills are still bad 😂🔥🐉

@matthoffman6962

4 жыл бұрын

Silver Dragons looks like Perth mint it is! Lol.

I guess I have just been very lucky. I have about twenty. I would say 5-6 before 2017 and the rest after. They all have been in airtight’s except the last 4-5 have been in plastic roll containers for a month or so.

Can milkspotting spreads to other coins? If I get milspotted coins should I keep them separated from the rest?

@michaelerzengel7468

5 жыл бұрын

SliferThe SkyDragon no

@redpilledstacker38

5 жыл бұрын

@@lepton31415 Thanks man. I appreciate the advice and knowledge

@redpilledstacker38

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelerzengel7468 thanks

Although any coin may develop milk spots, it is the coins from the Canadian Mint that are most likely to develop them. I stopped buying modern RMC coins despite the very beautiful designs.

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Silver Saver hopefully they figured out how to stop it! 🔥🐉

I've got some maple leafs from the 90s, no milk spotting. Also have some privy marked maples from early 2000s also no milk. Hmm

Put moisture absorbent bags where you store your coins that will help some.

Where is the info on "preventing" ?!

I am only buying 2018 and up maples. I have personally seen some Philharmonics milkspot but that's about it. Never had a problem with Scottsdale products.

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Whitt nice yeah the 2018 and later should be better... phil’s do spot good point 🔥🐉

@venictos

5 жыл бұрын

I got a tube of 2014 maples for basically spot and they dont have any spots yet.

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

venictos wow that is awesome!!! 🔥🐉

My 2020 coins are milk spotting from RCM what the frig

Maple leaf are terrible for milk spots you are spot on.

How do you clean milk spots

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Steve Fernandez That is a great topic for another video! usually jewelers cloth works good 🔥🐉

Did you say silver baggins?

Nice 👍👍👍👍 informative

Wow baggins somehow a got an hour ad so I left it on my tablet to run.. Hope that really helps u from what I've heard it does? Let me know and eventually I'll watch your video. LMAO

Great vid omg to make silver not get bad spots!!!!😀

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Fluffy marshmallow lol yes I don’t like em 🔥🐉

Thanks man I had been wondering. Silllllvwrrrr bagggiiiiin nnnssss. Out

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Metal Bum thanks so much my friend! 🔥🐉

A bit of 3in1 oil maybe? Just like oiling your tools to stop them rusting.

Took him 8 minutes to say just buy coins that don't get milk spots...not how to actually prevent them. What a waste of time on this video. Title is misleading and he talks too much before he gets to the point, which was useless.

I dropped some old silver coins into baking soda and vinegar and it cleaned them right up.

Try rubber. It helps a lot for milk spots also for fingertips. Dont use it for collection coins

Well explained SB🐉,, ⚪🥛👌

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Stuart Ogilvie Thanks a lot Stuart! 🔥🐉

You can't prevent it. It is what it is. The RCM has been the worst when it comes to milk spots. Hopefully it will not be an issue in the future. 🐉✌

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

steve rice well you can prevent it in your stack by not buying those coins 😁🔥🐉

There were tons of complaints about Perth Mint coins years ago, especially for the kangaroos. They have tried hard to fix the problem. I certainly hope so. I have purchased 100 ounces of silver kangaroos over the last 6 weeks, so they better not spot! heh

@jasper-hr8yn

2 жыл бұрын

How did they age? I have heard from others that they used to be horrible

@lamentate07

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasper-hr8yn Glad you asked me that. It gave me an excuse to look 🙂 They look fine, although I only checked the first 8-10 coins of each capsule.

@jasper-hr8yn

2 жыл бұрын

@@lamentate07 good to hear! Thanks for the response :)

very cool

@SilverDragons47

5 жыл бұрын

Bubba’s Coins Thanks so much!!! 🔥🐉

"Wright's Silver Cleaner and Polish Cream" will remove 90% of the milk spots,I tested it myself on several occasions. Find it on Amazon.

How did I know you werent going answer the question on the title of this video?