HOW TO PLAY ROGUE (again)

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  • @merpins
    @merpins2 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact about ranged attacks: If you are within 5 feet of a creature that can't see you, your ranged attack doesn't have disadvantage since it specifies "that can see you."

  • @MapleToaster

    @MapleToaster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or take crossbow expert feat and don't worry if they can see you or not!

  • @stevefilms1997

    @stevefilms1997

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also there is another dude within 5 feet anyway so he would get sneak attack regardless of advantage

  • @LupineShadowOmega

    @LupineShadowOmega

    2 жыл бұрын

    But he's prone, which is disadvantage to a ranged attacker anyway, if they are farther than 5ft away. Like you said, only being hidden actually sorts this gordian knot.

  • @exturkconner

    @exturkconner

    2 жыл бұрын

    Proned enemies give you disadvantage to hit unless you are within 5 feet, and using range gives disadvantage within 5 feet. So yeah there was no scenario there where he was going to get advantage (without crossbow expert or the UA fighting style Close Quarters Shooter) but he did have a friendly in 5 feet so there was also no scenario where he was going to not have sneak attack.

  • @Blackblaze18

    @Blackblaze18

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@exturkconner "You don't need advantage on the attack roll if another enemy of the target is within 5 feet of it, that enemy isn't incapacitated, and *you don't have disadvantage on the attack roll*." Doesn`t matter if there is an Ally near the enemy. He got disadvantage so no Sneak Attack. It`s automatically canceled out

  • @jenbooob
    @jenbooob2 жыл бұрын

    I love the idea of a medieval dnd setting where the thieve's Cant code is actually a set of modern real world memes that are updated regularly by some mysterious individual with a gate open and an internet connection.

  • @hithere4719

    @hithere4719

    Жыл бұрын

    bussin frfr

  • @LonelyMinnesotan1

    @LonelyMinnesotan1

    Жыл бұрын

    this is beautiful

  • @jenbooob

    @jenbooob

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hithere4719 Bababooey

  • @hithere4719

    @hithere4719

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jenbooob “one Bababooey if they come by land and two Bababooeys if by sea”

  • @janvernw

    @janvernw

    Жыл бұрын

    It would be so funny! XD

  • @jacobclark9615
    @jacobclark96152 жыл бұрын

    The Rogue is my favorite class and yet my friend created my favorite concept for the class. He made a rogue who wanted to be the best rogue had a normal backstory very happy go lucky, but he heard all rogues had tragic backstories so for the entire campaign he was trying to murder his family.

  • @ericgropuis
    @ericgropuis Жыл бұрын

    “No one uses paper character sheets anymore” Me and my party preferring and still using paper character sheets to this day

  • @mitchmcginn4250

    @mitchmcginn4250

    Жыл бұрын

    Ditto.

  • @knixie

    @knixie

    Жыл бұрын

    Now no one uses DND beyond anymore xddddd

  • @tomboi5143

    @tomboi5143

    Жыл бұрын

    I am the same

  • @thecheesen

    @thecheesen

    Жыл бұрын

    WotC seem a little too hungry for microtransactions, I'm sticking to paper for now

  • @theyoungfool.1895

    @theyoungfool.1895

    Жыл бұрын

    Paper supremacy!

  • @khristian625
    @khristian6252 жыл бұрын

    That “uncanny dodging a cliff” sketch reminded me of the 3.5 Iron Heart Surge, a Warblade ability that “ends the source of an effect.” By rules as written, it lets you turn off the sun because the sunlight is bright light that affects your ability to see.

  • @darkmagician4697

    @darkmagician4697

    2 жыл бұрын

    This broke me thanks for the laughs

  • @FroggerbobT

    @FroggerbobT

    2 жыл бұрын

    It lets you do a lot more than that as written... You can turn off an enemy's life, or turn off an elemental plane, or turn off time... Or turn off the DM since they're the real source of all effects.

  • @burghleyimeanberdly6513

    @burghleyimeanberdly6513

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Oh no God is talking to me" *deletes God*

  • @danielcastillo591

    @danielcastillo591

    2 жыл бұрын

    *Falls off a tiny ledge* *Deactivates gravity*

  • @videogamegang1797

    @videogamegang1797

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its far funnier to use this while drowning - The ecological consequences are less damning but more fun than the sun disappearing, such as a bunch of Aboleths suddenly being upset.

  • @alfred8936
    @alfred89362 жыл бұрын

    great power: >sneak attack overwhelming power: >playing a class that lets the party rogue attack outside of their turn

  • @quendi5557

    @quendi5557

    2 жыл бұрын

    *That moment when I realise that Purple Dragon Knight can actually do this*

  • @Kane_the_Newschool_DM

    @Kane_the_Newschool_DM

    2 жыл бұрын

    Battle Master babyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

  • @IcyDragonPolaris

    @IcyDragonPolaris

    2 жыл бұрын

    Order Cleric, ironically enough

  • @matthewtompkins4338

    @matthewtompkins4338

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@quendi5557 Battle Master can do it better and sooner

  • @quendi5557

    @quendi5557

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@matthewtompkins4338 wasn't going: "The purple dragon Knight is the best at this". Was just saying they could do it. I also don't know if the battle masters is a straight upgrade though.

  • @comicserif
    @comicserif2 жыл бұрын

    Scout's reaction movement pairs really well with steady aim, since you can shoot with advantage AND still move

  • @KnicKnac

    @KnicKnac

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Just stand far away and pew pew or 30ft if using hand crossbow

  • @stillsmelly9042

    @stillsmelly9042

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or you could get a horse

  • @Tupadre97

    @Tupadre97

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except it only works when an enemy *ends* it's turn within 5 ft of you meaning you've probably already been hit by the time you even use it and combined with steady aim you only move 15 feet meaning they're just gonna hit you again next turn. Now compare that with riding a mount which still has it's full movement which is way faster than yours and probably your enemies and you can still use steady aim on it. Yeah that shit is trash compared to just using a mount or taking a better subclass.

  • @comicserif

    @comicserif

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Tupadre97 If you think mounts are practical it's probably the type of campaign you are in (or you play a tiny race and have a cute mount that the DM doesn't have the heart to kill, if so that's cool too). Otherwise, it's like arguing that beastmaster is a good subclass (and beastmaster companions easily have tipple the hitpoints of a horse). Any AOE at a level beyond 5th, and your horse turned to glue. If you are a paladin, that's fine, otherwise you have to wait till you get back to town to use aim. As for Scout, sure there are more powerful options, but nothing wrong with optimizing around something that's actually reliable.

  • @comicserif

    @comicserif

    2 жыл бұрын

    That said, a mount is another way to do it! but that doesn't make the scout method bad. I just personally wouldn't go scout past level 3, or level 5 if you want uncanny dodge.

  • @theimperviousfirecracker7934
    @theimperviousfirecracker79342 жыл бұрын

    I like to think of the Swashbuckler Archetype as the loud and upfront variant of the rogue. Basically you make yourself more like a fighter.

  • @nathansmith-pe7st
    @nathansmith-pe7st2 жыл бұрын

    I genuinely think this might be one of if not the best video you've ever made. It includes everything that makes people love your videos, especially the original "How to play..." series but turned up to 11, with everything that you've learned over years since. And the music bit, absolute FIRE. Really hope this reboot series continues, its great to see how your channel has grown over the past few years. (P.s. your Gravity/falling bit you did? Unironically the line of thought Einstein had when formulating general relativity, have fun with the knowledge you are a modern day ultra-geek D&D einstein)

  • @XPtoLevel3

    @XPtoLevel3

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it. I had a LOT of fun making this so I think I’ll be revisiting all the classes again. Hopefully.

  • @beingilluminous

    @beingilluminous

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@XPtoLevel3 I just started playing w/my brother last week (we are in our 40's/using roll20) and your video (the first one) on how to play a rogue is the reason I chose it.... so this will be my second game and now I'm pausing the screens like crazy, reading up and your LARP examples helped prompt even more discussions. Thank you so much for your work!

  • @doodledicemonsters

    @doodledicemonsters

    2 жыл бұрын

    @XP to Level 3 I couldnt have said it better than this guy did

  • @dillpickle987

    @dillpickle987

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@XPtoLevel3 I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about the Armorer Artificer subclass if you revisit it, as it wasn't released at the time of the original two videos.

  • @thecyberrabbit1440

    @thecyberrabbit1440

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dillpickle987 that subclass is awesome, you can literally become Iron Man

  • @DerrEtCetera
    @DerrEtCetera2 жыл бұрын

    The amount of fun stuff in this vid while still remaining clear and relevant to teaching people how to build a rogue really shows how far your editing/video concepts have come. Well done, dude.

  • @AxxLAfriku

    @AxxLAfriku

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am thinking about dropping out of school to focus on my career as a star on KZread. I already make a lot of money on KZread. School bores me so much. I need more opinions and since I don't have any friends, I gotta ask you, der

  • @XPtoLevel3

    @XPtoLevel3

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks :)

  • @TheSmart-CasualGamer

    @TheSmart-CasualGamer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AxxLAfriku Oh, it's this guy!

  • @ninjajack6457
    @ninjajack64572 жыл бұрын

    “What kind of rogue are you?” Banjo starts Me: immense grin knowing this channel by now

  • @samueluwanawich5518

    @samueluwanawich5518

    Жыл бұрын

    Guitar

  • @robocart9253

    @robocart9253

    Жыл бұрын

    @@samueluwanawich5518 Americanized German Harp

  • @Petq011

    @Petq011

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robocart9253 I mean... It's obviously a guitar... unless "you"/the viewer Is blind... and I'm pretty sure it sounds different, but whatever. If we are going to be like this, I call it Westernized Japanese Koto. 😅🤣

  • @robocart9253

    @robocart9253

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Petq011 yeah that was the joke lol, making fun of a correction with an over correction. Might be a strummed version of a freedom filled Egyptian Lyre though. Can't be sure.

  • @Petq011

    @Petq011

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robocart9253 Ah. True, true. 😅🤣

  • @LucidStrike
    @LucidStrike2 жыл бұрын

    I vibe with the description of rogues as particularly human. My first DND session, I made a human rogue because relying on skill and deliberate action felt more relatable to me than tossing fireballs. Relating to my character is important to me in RPGs.

  • @treckzx1504

    @treckzx1504

    Жыл бұрын

    Good for you dude.

  • @bubbasbigblast8563
    @bubbasbigblast85632 жыл бұрын

    "The ground rolls to dodge you." *rolls* "The ground fails. You both take 500 damage, but the ground's gravity skill negates most of that." "Wait! I roll to steal the concept of gravity!" "Can't, you're already stole the concept of Pigeons, and there's a hard limit of one concept stolen per game." "Oh, right. Darn."

  • @philliptivis3082

    @philliptivis3082

    2 жыл бұрын

    While playing 3rd edition years ago my rogue was knocked off a Mesa by an attack. I jokingly asked the DM if I could declare the ground for my +1 AC dodge bonus. Laughs were had by all; I took full damage.

  • @Pillar_of_Salt

    @Pillar_of_Salt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@philliptivis3082 lmao

  • @RJ-1580

    @RJ-1580

    Жыл бұрын

    Reading that first line made me dizzy

  • @fish3977

    @fish3977

    4 ай бұрын

    What sort of fae fuckery is this?

  • @Daiyuki117

    @Daiyuki117

    3 ай бұрын

    Bro what

  • @maylafont442
    @maylafont4422 жыл бұрын

    scout rogue is just non-magic ranger, which I've definitely been wanting for a while and it has a unique fighting style thanks to skirmisher, making a hit and run melee rogue or even just using it to keep out of reach as a ranged rogue, especially since it can be used with steady aim since it's a reaction movement. Frankly all the scout abilities are pretty dope and importantly very different from other subclasses

  • @MapleToaster

    @MapleToaster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes!! I've been looking for some scout support! It's one I currently play and I love it! (Also have a ranger Gloomstalker in another game, similarities are spot on but just different enough to take you from that tanky ranger feeling to the sleek shadow walker of a rogue Scout. I love my scout rogue! And she's so good at everything that when she does fail it's epic and fricken hilarious!

  • @exqueue3813

    @exqueue3813

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's unfortunate that skirmisher requires an enemy to END it's turn next to you as opposed to just moving next to you. You have to take a round of attacks for skirmisher to trigger.

  • @MapleToaster

    @MapleToaster

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@exqueue3813 that it is. And since it's a reaction I've found myself saying, should I skirmisher or just stay here and uncanny dodge? I use both quite frequently but it would be pretty cool if you could skirmish just as they enter melee range (well 5 ft, in case you're a bugbear or have an extended reach melee weapon)

  • @orangeflame568

    @orangeflame568

    2 жыл бұрын

    I tried scout in some adventure league games I played last weekend. The Skirmisher feature worked well with the Steady Aim feature. I used a heavy crossbow. Skirmisher usually got me out of melee so no disadvantage for being in melee. Steady Aim gave me advantage so I could attack whatever target I pleased on the battlefield, and if skirmisher didn't do the job to get me out of melee then steady aim backup sword works. Elven Accuracy feat at 4th level made that single attack per round very likely to hit. I had fun with it.

  • @anna_young

    @anna_young

    2 жыл бұрын

    I fricking love scout rogue. I played it exactly as a non-magic ranger, and taking 2 levels of ranger when I was higher level. You get more feats so I had skilled, sharpshooter and skulker. You get 2 extra expertises in nature and survival, it's easy to stay out of melee range, and it's lvl 17 ability is *AMAZING*.

  • @DJayPhresh
    @DJayPhresh Жыл бұрын

    The coolest feat for Rogue is the Mobile feat. Extra movement speed, ignore difficult terrain and don't provoke opportunity attacks when you leave their melee range after making an attack. Excellent for that slippery, hit-and-run playstyle. My absolute favorite rogue feat.

  • @JahJah-CleverHandle

    @JahJah-CleverHandle

    7 ай бұрын

    🎶Ain’t no one gonna hit my fleshmeat, prepare for your defeat: I’m taking the mobile feat.🎶 “Oh no” 🎶Sneak attack, run away. I can dash, it’s okay. No reaction attacks, I’m too fast, that’s a fact.🎶

  • @VakovoSheggorri

    @VakovoSheggorri

    7 ай бұрын

    Theif is my favourite subclass for Rogue, because I love using items in combat. So something I like is when the Dm allows using an item interaction against another creature to count as an attack for the purposes of Mobile and other features. It makes me feel like my Rogue is able to do a lot more with what they have, like using a Piton as a knife and stabbing a prone creature, then using a Hammer to hammer it into the ground, pinning the creature....LOVE Thief.

  • @VakovoSheggorri

    @VakovoSheggorri

    7 ай бұрын

    Theif is my favourite subclass for Rogue, because I love using items in combat. So something I like is when the Dm allows using an item interaction against another creature to count as an attack for the purposes of Mobile and other features. It makes me feel like my Rogue is able to do a lot more with what they have, like using a Piton as a knife and stabbing a prone creature, then using a Hammer to hammer it into the ground, pinning the creature....LOVE Thief.

  • @RailRoad188

    @RailRoad188

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@VakovoSheggorri Thats awesome, bu Now I'm afraid of the folk at the climbing gym! 😱

  • @KiithnarasAshaa
    @KiithnarasAshaa Жыл бұрын

    5:00 - Actually, you can do that. You have a non-incapacitated ally (or at least an enemy of your target) adjacent to your target. While the Disadvantage of making a ranged attack in melee still exists, it is canceled by the Advantage you would use from Steady Aim (and from the adjacent target being prone). Thus, this attack would have _neither_ Advantage nor Disadvantage* and would still allow you to Sneak Attack a target that is adjacent to a non-incapacitated enemy of itself (e.g. an ally of yours). *"If circumstances cause a roll to have both advantage and disadvantage, you are considered to have neither of them, and you roll one d20. This is true even if multiple circumstances impose disadvantage and only one grants advantage or vice versa. In such a situation, you have neither advantage nor disadvantage." - PHB p.173

  • @sihplak
    @sihplak2 жыл бұрын

    0:24 you pick scout for when you make a half-elf who multiclasses in Scout Rogue and Lore Bard and taking the "Skilled" feat at level 4, then the "Prodigy" Half-Elf racial feat from Xanathar's at level 8 (Prodigy gives one proficiency and one expertise). At level 1 in Rogue and level 3 in Bard you get expertise in 2 skills, and the Scout subclass makes Nature and Survival innately into expertise skills. Past level 8, you could then put 3 more levels into Rogue getting another 2 expertise skills, then get to Bard level 10 for another 2 expertise skills. So that means you have proficiency in everything, then 11 skills in which you have expertise. Scout, at minimum in this one specific situation, is hilariously OP -- basically a "King of All Trades" as opposed to a Jack of All Trades

  • @Siennarchist

    @Siennarchist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please remember that generally this is still weaker than the energy die a soul knife gets

  • @JosieBobaGames

    @JosieBobaGames

    2 жыл бұрын

    A level of Knowledge domain cleric gets you expertise in 2 skills between Arcana, History, Nature, or Religion.

  • @dephony5648

    @dephony5648

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have to be high level to make this, and it isn't as effective as just picking any other rogue subclass and going to high levels

  • @sihplak

    @sihplak

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dephony5648 just needs level 8 to have proficiency in all skills; more of a mid-level than high-level build, and is definitely for a specific type of playstyle that's optimized for one specific thing as opposed to being "good"

  • @alexreid6224

    @alexreid6224

    2 жыл бұрын

    A level of Ranger also gets you perception and Expertise in it too

  • @JackofCookieJars
    @JackofCookieJars2 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact! Scout's level 3 doesn't specify walking speed. So get yourself a burrowing/flying speed, and just say no to any further attacks for the turn!

  • @nessesaryschoolthing

    @nessesaryschoolthing

    2 жыл бұрын

    Burrowing is hard to get, though. I think the only way is to wildshape or polymorph. But a rogue who is also a badger makes sense to me You'd think Harengon would get a burrowind speed, like, you know, rabbits

  • @Siennarchist

    @Siennarchist

    2 жыл бұрын

    The issue is that even if you cant get attacked any more, you took the full attack damage, and then the rest of the damage went to another, probably squishier, party member instead. Even if the ability avoids you getting attacked for an entire turn, you probably burnt your reaction to get zero benefit and maybe make shit worse. Its HORRIBLE.

  • @borofreak

    @borofreak

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Siennarchist What you described is an awesome opportunity to make a choice in a potentially dire situation. Dramatic, dangerous... I'd say you've just invented role-playing. Dropping the sarcasm, you literally explained why it's an AWESOME ability :) But that also depends if you're in for the "winning" or for the "role-playing" part of this table-top *role-playing* game. If it's not obvious, I prefer to be presented with difficult and interesting choices, but it's okay to be into other aspects of the game. You do you.

  • @Siennarchist

    @Siennarchist

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@borofreak my roleplaying ability generally isnt dependent on flushing me and my party's hitpoints down the drain for zero benefit. Using a bad ability to roleplay doesn't make it a good ability. Also theres a ton of choices and flavour you can make with any subclass. Adding an option that is nearly always terrible to your toolkit isnt any more roleplay enabling that an actually good ability

  • @borofreak

    @borofreak

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Siennarchist Whatever suits you, mate. You can play any way you want :)

  • @lightning_11
    @lightning_112 жыл бұрын

    Thieves cant to me is like when someone tells you a meme and you understand the reference they're making.

  • @JamesTaylor-oh1sd
    @JamesTaylor-oh1sd Жыл бұрын

    You should really bring back this series with your new outlook and experience. I think it would be cool to see how you have evolved over the years and your opinions on the classes along side it.

  • @mamba-do-u

    @mamba-do-u

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see Warlock and Artificer done *again* !

  • @jakethiringer1698
    @jakethiringer16982 жыл бұрын

    “Nobody uses paper character sheets anymore”…. Me: Cries all over my beloved paper character sheet….

  • @anonimase4315

    @anonimase4315

    2 жыл бұрын

    WAIT, YOU"LL RUIN IT!

  • @BigDickWizard6969
    @BigDickWizard69692 жыл бұрын

    "L + ratio + nobody asked + touch grass" is Thieves Cant for "haha you are big stinky doodoo head"

  • @TeaganBAllen
    @TeaganBAllen2 жыл бұрын

    I'm playing an inquisitive rogue in my next campaign and I'm so excited for her! She's an Investigative Journalist though so she's very much going to need that expertise in Persuasion

  • @EvilMastermind
    @EvilMastermind Жыл бұрын

    You can sneak attack if you have both Advantage and Disadvantage if the enemy has a hostile entity within 5 feet of them at that time. You just get only one die to roll. Dan Dillon (Game designer for DnD 5E.) confirmed this on Twitter. So yes, on both of those prone sneak attack skits, Jacob could have used sneak attack as he had both, used a finesse weapon and the enemy had a hostile entity within 5 feet of them.

  • @Linkdoesminecraft100
    @Linkdoesminecraft1002 жыл бұрын

    I honestly prefer the Scout over the assassin, its abilities are a lot of fun when you use them right and can be pretty handy. Other the Assassinate ability, the Assassins abilities are useless

  • @MapleToaster

    @MapleToaster

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Scout, and while he's right about it being the best archetype to wander off alone that's kind of why I wanted it. Scout almost has a ranger_esque type of feel to it while also being proficient in so many things.

  • @Linkdoesminecraft100

    @Linkdoesminecraft100

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MapleToaster i really like it for infiltration missions, I have a scout rogue multiclassed with an Echo Knight Fighter so instead I can send my duplicate over 1000 feet away from me while getting all of the features of Scout, without ever being in harms way

  • @bskec2177

    @bskec2177

    2 жыл бұрын

    A half-elf scout, at level 3, has ten skill prof. with expertise in 4 of them (although nature and survival have to be two of those four). At that point you're not just looking for skills you want, just looking for skills to add just because you can. I like it just fine.

  • @rodrigonoffs1369

    @rodrigonoffs1369

    2 жыл бұрын

    You think assassinate is useful?

  • @lukeharrison1487

    @lukeharrison1487

    2 жыл бұрын

    But I like the Scout subclass lmao

  • @eleutheros7216
    @eleutheros72162 жыл бұрын

    Took a Dash bonus action to be already here

  • @jogailejurkonyte4746

    @jogailejurkonyte4746

    2 жыл бұрын

    YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ABOUT TO DO... I'M NOT GONNA TAKE A PLUS TWO

  • @LordMyron09
    @LordMyron092 жыл бұрын

    A cool idea that our rogue came up with was to use a whip and, when making a sneak attack with it, could initiate a grapple check to try and wrap it around an enemy's arm or legs. This made combat a lot more fun for everyone, because he got to be more strategic in fights, and when he successfully entangled someone it was fun for the party to just wail on them

  • @morrigankasa570
    @morrigankasa570 Жыл бұрын

    The most powerful Rogue still not super magical would actually be a Wood Elf Rogue. Fleet of Foot and Mask Ability thing so has an additional chance of hiding when lightly obscured. Plus starts with some weapons training.

  • @ohexenwahno5652
    @ohexenwahno56522 жыл бұрын

    It's easy to avoid falling damage. Just fall and miss the ground.

  • @georgeiii3525

    @georgeiii3525

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's how you fly

  • @OnyxANZ

    @OnyxANZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didn't work for Keyleth

  • @thegreatandterrible4508

    @thegreatandterrible4508

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Arthur

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    An easier way for me as an Eldritch Knight is... Use my Action Surge Teleport, a Teleport Spell or Scoll, or Telekinetic Feat a target (Familiar) upward (away from me) while holding onto it in order to reset the 10ft Fall Distance. ... Game mechanics...

  • @lexistential

    @lexistential

    29 күн бұрын

    this is literally what orbiting is, you just move to the side so fast you miss the earth

  • @tjhunter9787
    @tjhunter97872 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video that explains all the details a player should know about the rogue. Can't wait to see this a third time when the inevitable 5.5 hits the shelves

  • @Potatoman_-fx3gs

    @Potatoman_-fx3gs

    2 жыл бұрын

    not called 5.5

  • @redbuck1385

    @redbuck1385

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love this video too. Probably because my parents were k-

  • @HoneyBeeNarcissist

    @HoneyBeeNarcissist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nanashi :)

  • @Kenpokid4

    @Kenpokid4

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Potatoman_-fx3gs But it's still 5.5e

  • @twilimist

    @twilimist

    2 жыл бұрын

    couldnt agree more! also, i love your smt pfp!!

  • @Agent13226
    @Agent132262 жыл бұрын

    I love rogues. You're outsmarting people who are more educated than you and outlasting those who are physically stronger. I like being the underdog.

  • @dharmeshmistry342
    @dharmeshmistry3422 жыл бұрын

    This was extremely intuitive and this was my first time seeing this channel at all. You did a spectacular job and have got me super stoked for my C2 Rogue, the second character I will ever be playing since I started DnD a ton of months ago. (I don’t remember the exact date. 😆) This was fantastic, thank you!

  • @MapleToaster
    @MapleToaster2 жыл бұрын

    That's so true, other members flip over rogues getting sneak damage but they can blow up a whole fricken room or have 5 more to their AC! Drives me batty

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sneak Attack + Luck = 3d20... Luck is its own d20. But usually... Sneak Attack should be applied very often in combat, in RAW, but the DM will decide if the enemies are smart enough to keep taps on the player Characters' locations... Especially NPCs who can see without sight.

  • @mainmarco
    @mainmarco2 жыл бұрын

    You know, I think this is one of my favorite series. From the jokes to the breakdowns, it is just a fun and informative series.

  • @EvelliosE
    @EvelliosE2 жыл бұрын

    Man bought an elite 2.0 blaster for one bit. Sold his soul for the joke.

  • @QuinnTheGM
    @QuinnTheGM2 жыл бұрын

    I will not tolerate this Scout slander! By far my favorite rogue subclass, I love the extra expertise and movement-based abilities. I really like that it provides the flavor of an entirely martial ranger, which 5e was otherwise lacking!

  • @davidstratton696

    @davidstratton696

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean u can just multiclass into something like fighter (which is a good multiclass) and go battlemaster. And then get the brace maneuver from Tasha’s. That allows u to make an attack of opp against a creature that comes within 5ft of u. Which means another chance to do sneak attack (and u add the superiority dice as well). And just pick your expertise to be what scout gets (skill expert feat as well). Theirs also maneuvers from Tasha’s that allow u to add to ability checks. And if u go swashbuckler u get something like the mobile feat when u attack on your turn. The main problem (which I found out not that long ago) is the moving ability scout gets is at the end of the enemy turn which means they get to attack u first. But with being able to attack when the enemy comes within u can maybe kill them before they can attack and even if u don’t u can just move away on your turn (which is like what the scout did but u got a lot more dmg out of it). Now I’m in no way saying your not allowed to like it and I’m definitely not saying it’s terrible but it could definitely be better and theirs better subclasses. Anyways sorry if this was kinda long.

  • @Schmeethe88

    @Schmeethe88

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidstratton696 The movement you get at the end of their turn works *very* well when you've already created plenty of distance with your 40' base movement and cunning action dash. They'll likely have to dash just to reach you, and then you skitter away untouched because they can't even take a swipe with their opportunity attack. Now that you're away from them again, guess you can just rinse and repeat. The other nice thing about getting survival and nature for free is that you've still got your base proficiencies and expertise. You don't have to sacrifice on the usual suspects, and can take your stealth, thieves' tools, maybe investigation and arcana. or perception and acrobatics... you get the idea. Those other two are added on as a bonus. Plus, the scout's features are very reliable and passive most of the time. When I played an assassin rogue, I'd find almost every battle was against enemies with crazy high initiative or when we were ambushed. I think I actually got my assassinate ability off *one* time. Or you've got stuff like inquisitive's eye for detail, where unless you're fighting enemy rogues that are hiding on their turns, you'll almost never make use of the feature at all. Scout is far from the worst rogue subclass.

  • @davidstratton696

    @davidstratton696

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Schmeethe88 The thing is if your a swashbuckler or get the mobile feat (or u can find some other way to get more movement) then u can do that too. So it’s nothing special here. And the extra expertise is nice but u get 4 expertise and can get the skill expert feat (u also get another skill proficiency and +1 to an ability score so it’s half of an asi and since rogues get an extra asi it’s not a big deal). Again nothing special. Also as I mentioned before if u multiclass into fighter u can go battlemaster and get maneuvers that apply to ability checks so your a lot better at ability checks (one of which is initiative which is pretty cool). Did u have alert on your assassin? That helps. And your party must not have had a anyone with good perception if u kept getting surprised (if u have the alert feat u also can’t be surprised). Again the biggest problem with the scout is their ability to back away without an attack of opp is after the enemy ends theirs turn within 5 feat of u so the enemy gets to do everything they were to do and they have to stay within 5 ft of u (which is dumb). It should be as soon as they come within 5ft which is what I thought it was until not that long ago. I don’t see y that would be any more helpful then u just waiting till your turn and just backing away with either the mobile feat or being a swashbuckler (or just disengaging with a higher movement speed). And with any of those u can keep your reaction so in a way it’s better most of the time. Since u can use uncanny dodge or if u do what I said and went battlemaster u can use brace and easily get another sneak attack (along with adding the superiority dice to the dmg). Since if u kill the enemy u won’t have to worry about being hit from that enemy anymore. Like I said it’s not really terrible it just could be better.

  • @davidstratton696

    @davidstratton696

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Schmeethe88 Idk I think compared to all the other subclasses it’s the worst (again not terrible). Cause all of it’s features (at least not in the way later lvs) u can either go without or can just get it in a different way. Where as something like fast hands, being able to sneak attack 1v1, auto crit, being able to give allies advantage at range as a bonus action, and spell casting r things u can’t really replace. I’m gonna be honest when 5e came out I thought thief was pretty bad (I still don’t think it’s anything special) but u can build it around using items like a potion or a healers kit (if u have the healer feat) or some other way idk. Idk my favorite subclass is the arcane trickster (that and swashbuckler I’m gonna say r the 2 best and I’m not even that big on swashbuckler). Really tho the subclasses overall for the Rogue seem kinda limiting in a way. Like I wish their was a rogue subclass that purely focused on range attacks like the swashbuckler with melee (from my knowledge their isn’t). The closest we have is scout but it’s kinda disappointing for being the only thing that can be considered a purely range rogue subclass. It’s just nothing special is all.

  • @jettlucashayes8508

    @jettlucashayes8508

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidstratton696 just get sentinel and get a side kick or use the melee character as a partner. double sneak attack at level 4 plus stealth is a shit skill so you don't even need medium armour master so just dip cleric for the armour

  • @Nesto_
    @Nesto_2 жыл бұрын

    For the scout I’ll be honest I split from the party pretty often so being good at exactly that seems like an alright choice. I always take the rule of “never split the party” as being specifically in the context of dungeons and other dangerous areas where strong foes could be around any corner, but in a low-risk area where most encounters can be avoided or talked your way out of or say if you’re doing an infiltration mission it makes sense.

  • @Cursed110011

    @Cursed110011

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd still say his homebrew suggestions for the scout are a step up. Especially when looking at 9th level you can say that what he suggests would be more fun to play.

  • @jettlucashayes8508

    @jettlucashayes8508

    2 жыл бұрын

    could also just use pass without trace since 90% of creatures have a passive perception of 14

  • @Nesto_

    @Nesto_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jettlucashayes8508 Druid and Ranger are some of the least played classes, not every party has that luxury.

  • @jettlucashayes8508

    @jettlucashayes8508

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nesto_ trickery clerics get it too and I'd say it makes it worth it, magical secrets also does the trick heck even monks get pass without trace

  • @Nesto_

    @Nesto_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jettlucashayes8508 One subclass of the class with the most subclasses in the game. Like I get what you mean but most parties still won’t have it.

  • @alvinleonardo1263
    @alvinleonardo12632 жыл бұрын

    This was a super well made Video. I’m honestly hoping you remake all the How to play a Class Videos because their honestly one of my favorite parts of your channel. Great job as usual with the song by the way 👏👏👏

  • @jukupatka
    @jukupatka2 жыл бұрын

    Unmatched musical entertainment while providing the necessary information. Purely genius work.

  • @MatthewBrpg
    @MatthewBrpg2 жыл бұрын

    Jacob discovered the theory of relativity while trying not to die from fall damage. Fact: You are being pulled towards the earth, but the earth is also being pulled towards you. (But the earth pulls much much much much much much much much harder.)

  • @ditrixgenesis781

    @ditrixgenesis781

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well the pull is identical for both bodies, but you have tiny mass and can accelerate much much much faster.

  • @MandalorV7

    @MandalorV7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ditrixgenesis781 Basically it’s not the fall that kills you but the impact.

  • @microhomebrew
    @microhomebrew2 жыл бұрын

    Jacob, scouts are hella fun. They're _excellent_ at skirmishing within a party, and as far as not splitting the party goes - _that's what scouts of any class are supposed to do._ It's a _lot_ more dangerous to bring everyone along on a stealth mission to gather information than it is to go alone. It always goes wrong with all of the people in it, and rogues are _designed_ to get away safely even if they get caught somehow.

  • @TF2CrunchyFrog

    @TF2CrunchyFrog

    2 жыл бұрын

    quote: "It's a lot more dangerous to bring everyone along on a stealth mission to gather information than it is to go alone." I once build an infiltrator-type character (years ago, in a Pathfinder/d20 3.5 hybrid D&D campaign), a Warlock/Factotum/Rogue multiclass, who was great at sneaking & perception, could turn himself invisible at will (from his Warlock powers), basically I wanted to see if I could use D&D to emulate the Spy from Team Fortress 2. And the character itself worked; he could get in and out undetected (he had a Ring of Spiderclimb as well), deliver info to the rest of the group, or take out guards ahead of the rest of the group moving in. He would have been great in an urban campaign, too, not just in a dungeon. Unfortunately, herein lay the problem: My character was _too skilled._ Very quickly, the other players started complaining that my spy scouting ahead meant they were forced to sit and wait while the gamemaster gave "solo adventures" to me. Even if it was just 5 minutes... they were getting bored. (Note: They were adults, 30+ year old players, not teens!) One player in particular was deliberately sabotaging me. (He was a power-gamer who was good at coming up with the most broken class/feat combos to build absolute monsters, be it warriors, psions, rogues or whatever... I had learned combo-maxing from him.) In that specific jungle-dungeon/pirate campaign he played a fighter, and if my infiltator was scouting ahead for more than a few rounds, the player would complain he was "bored now" and his fighter would "insist" on going in to "look for our rogue", proceeding to loudly break down doors to deliberately alert every enemy in the area. (And yes, he even admitted to me he was storming in after my character to force the group into frontal fights, something in which his character would be better at than mine.) After a few game sessions, the gamemasterask me to scrap my infiltrator-spy character and make a new one, specifically citing the "splitting the group" thing. I was pretty pissed off, because I had spent a lot of time on building and fine-tuning that character, writing a background story to fit the campaign etc. I had thought I was making a character who was useful to the group... but from the point of view of the other players, this wasn't a team game, this was about screentime, and my character getting (in their mind) too much of it from the GM.

  • @Zappygunshot

    @Zappygunshot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Jacob's take on the Scout kind of solves the problems laid out by you guys. It focuses on turning the _entire group_ into a scouting party, able to gather information ahead of fights and plan engagements undetected; whilst still remaining the clear outstanding expert in that particular field. It's like if Pass Without Trace was an entire subclass.

  • @microhomebrew

    @microhomebrew

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TF2CrunchyFrog There's definitely something to say about that, that the player experience across the table matters. Of course, _I'd_ be the one asking for the interrupting player to scrap, because that's an incredibly impolite thing todo. None-the-less, that's certainly a event which is made by the tastes of the players in question. If players can't handle 5 minutes without something to do, than it's not a game in which individual character time is appreciated, and therefore scouting characters aren't good for it. There are many ways to change that though, including giving the other players the chance to control (or at least narrate) creatures that the rogue sneaks past... estimating where the rogue goes during the scouting mission silently, followed by relaying only the key pieces of information so a plan can be hatched, then giving additional info _as it is needed or relevant_ during the ensuing party infiltration (this is a very effective and fun gameplay choice).

  • @microhomebrew

    @microhomebrew

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Zappygunshot I think it comes down to how DM's and players expect and choose to handle Scouting events in a game. Splitting the party is fine, but isolating a lone character for exclusive gameplay time _can_ be a problem, depending on the patience and the shared-interest that players have for others' characters. See my response to @crunchyfrog about how to run scouting easier. The game needs to be fun, so if one tactic in our story-telling game isn't being fun, don't remove or punish the tactic, change how you tell the story.

  • @sauceploxx4565
    @sauceploxx45652 жыл бұрын

    I love playing rogue in DnD 5e. It has a lot of flavor I get to mess around with. Campaign 1: Kleptomaniac Gambler Gnome Rogue with expertise in deception/sleight of hand. I loved to gamble/wage at opportunities that didn't call for it including rolling dice against a god (He cheated of course). I was a trickster rogue so this added to my persona. Campaign 2: Sword College Bard/Swashbuckler tabaxi rogue that did alchemy in my downtime. Made modern medicine muscle relaxers, had a tavern band, and hunted giant weasels. I wanted a mix of rogue with sword bard cause flourishes are super cool and I wanted the feeling of dashing in the battle engaging opponents with disengage available.

  • @fearlessdrago21
    @fearlessdrago212 жыл бұрын

    Love the music in the middle, especially the section where it's being played on your phone. Amazing editing!

  • @ice759
    @ice7592 жыл бұрын

    12:40 Everyone's so focused on stealth, but what about Deception? Arcana? Investigation? A rogue who knows more than most wizards? The ultimate speaker (better than bard mostly)? Genius investigator?

  • @Snowie7826

    @Snowie7826

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. I played a soulknife rogue with expertise in History and Arcana, whom was basically a mad scientist. He turned himself into a dhampir by accident and spent centuries continuing to study. Basically like Dracula from Netflix's Castlevania, he had a whole wealth of knowledge that most people had forgotten.

  • @WAMTAT

    @WAMTAT

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm playing a charisma rouge who is better at talking than the bard.

  • @anthonynorman7545

    @anthonynorman7545

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a wizard and bard player, few things make me more angry.

  • @hectorvivis3651

    @hectorvivis3651

    2 жыл бұрын

    While I love the concept, and basically played it, I'd say be careful and talk to other players/GM before going this route on some other character's turf. Some players might be a bit disapointed/salty their wizard ain't the true arcana expert for example, and can ruin their fun because that's basically the only thing their character is good at outside of throwing fireballs.

  • @hectorvivis3651

    @hectorvivis3651

    2 жыл бұрын

    And I'll add, it can even be disapointing for you when the GM decide that it's too overpowered or want to please the other players. You can be in a situation where they tell you that only spellcaster can do this arcana check on anything related to magic, or transform athletics checks into strength checks for example so that the barbarian still outclass you while it wouldn't have happen if you weren't that good.

  • @Kinuubi
    @Kinuubi2 жыл бұрын

    In the first situation you would still have sneak attack even if the enemy is prone since there was an ally within 5ft. Remember you have neither advantage or disadvantage since they cancel out.

  • @DetectiveInspectorMe.

    @DetectiveInspectorMe.

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes but as was mentioned many times you can have 30 sources of advantage but if you have a single source of disadvantage it stops working

  • @Kinuubi

    @Kinuubi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DetectiveInspectorMe. exactly. You don't need advantage for sneak attack if you have an ally within 5ft of the enemy and you don't have disadvantage which you don't since in that situation it was canceled out and you are considered to have niether advantage or disadvantage. Therefore sneak attack applies.

  • @bradybeers5178

    @bradybeers5178

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Kinuubi This is incorrect. You have to have advantage from some source in order to have sneak attack.

  • @MedioTaffy

    @MedioTaffy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Kinuubi i think you're not ROLLING for disadvantage but its still a condition you're under so it is still there

  • @Kinuubi

    @Kinuubi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradybeers5178 Again you don't need Advantage for sneak attack if you have an ally within 5ft of the enemy and you do not have disadvantage.

  • @luckilylemons
    @luckilylemons2 жыл бұрын

    This video was so great I keep coming back to rewatch it. I'd love to see the other class guides updated with their new subclasses and Tasha's features.

  • @Kfaircloth13457
    @Kfaircloth134572 жыл бұрын

    The live action 'combat' is basically my favorite thing in your videos. Informative and funny. Thanks!!!

  • @TheClericCorner
    @TheClericCorner2 жыл бұрын

    I think the only thing hiding is Jacob's musical talent in more of his videos

  • @thomanator1000
    @thomanator10002 жыл бұрын

    I've been having far more fun playing a scout then I ever did as an assassin tbh. I like to reflavour abilities, and my scout, being a bounty hunter who doesn't fight fair and is an expert on surviving and tracking down targets, has had more personality than the only thing I could think of to be interesting as an assassin, and that's a state sponsored assassin. What's more fun and flavourful, having a fake identity that can be bought via backgrounds, or throwing sand in people's eyes, backing off, and firing a well placed shot through their hand into their eyes (Both campaigns had guns in them. A scout with a sniper rifle was a total joy. The assassin wouldn't use them because they were too loud. Fair but still.)

  • @0_Body
    @0_Body2 жыл бұрын

    Rogue: "I fear no man, but that thing..." *glances at cliff "It scares me"

  • @peetamontrose7954
    @peetamontrose79542 жыл бұрын

    OMG! It's so great! So fun to watch, I already send it to my group, and friends, and listened again to most of it, and again (extra expertise) to the music xD FIRE! It was genuinely fun to watch, and hear, also a watcher can se your fun while doing it, and I'm not meaning only you, I mean you and your friends. I REALLY HOPE TO SEE THE NEXT CLASSES!!! (Och, and I send it to my friend, new in dnd, that took the rouge class and have hard time understanding it. We will see if someone who doesn't get it for 3 sessions already will finally get it thanks to that video. And I really have high hopes she will - video is great!)

  • @Kane_the_Newschool_DM
    @Kane_the_Newschool_DM2 жыл бұрын

    Scout's my favorite rogue subclass, god I love having 6 expertise skills and moving faster than everybody else. Take the Mobile feat and your typical speed is 50, and you *dash* as a bonus action, truly ridiculous. The 17th level upgrade is a little underwhelming, until you consider you're rolling an extra 9d6 (that's an average of almost 30!) damage per turn thanks to it. If you've been playing a dual-wielder the whole time, it's just a massive damage output upgrade for free every turn.

  • @hbsavage0387

    @hbsavage0387

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea guaranteed extra dmg on your attacks is amazing especially if you crit you can nuke enemies.

  • @tzeneth
    @tzeneth2 жыл бұрын

    There are actually a few uses for scout but my favorite was a build for a character I called Skii Mon-Kee (Skill Monkey) where I was designing a character who had every proficiency and as many expertise skills as possible. Scout was used because it gives 2 more expertise. Funnily enough, it's also probably the only build where human +1 in everything is actually useful.

  • @brendandossey2383

    @brendandossey2383

    Жыл бұрын

    Kenku with Knowledge Cleric, 4 or so levels in lore bard, and the rest in Scout Rogue is the ultimate Skill Gorilla.

  • @mercury2110
    @mercury21102 жыл бұрын

    So glad this came out!❤ and perfect timing too. My party of three, consisting of two rogues and a fighter, just got a new member who's also decided to play a rogue XD Yet another one to boss the fighter around. Love the vids!

  • @plushdragonteddy
    @plushdragonteddy Жыл бұрын

    GOD the thieves' cant analogy was so good. i rly loved the skits and overall style of this video - might be my favorite one yet!

  • @TaylehAwondras
    @TaylehAwondras2 жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to say, I absolutely adore!!! the little skits and visualisations you did in this video, it’s funny, changes the pace of the video, explains well and is just plain awesome.

  • @OneShotQuesters
    @OneShotQuesters2 жыл бұрын

    Why...why did 2:23 make me laugh so hard?

  • @Fungus402

    @Fungus402

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im both surprised and unsurprised to see you here

  • @gaszwyn449

    @gaszwyn449

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because there is no shortage of original jokes you can make about D&D logic.

  • @andromedastormcrow3288

    @andromedastormcrow3288

    2 жыл бұрын

    ...eh*

  • @matthewzuehlke4876

    @matthewzuehlke4876

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do a how to play video at One Shot Quips!😤

  • @dextersauve5491

    @dextersauve5491

    Жыл бұрын

    Duke?!

  • @CyberMancerGamer
    @CyberMancerGamer2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! And, dude, I legitimately love your songs

  • @kaa-gu3lj
    @kaa-gu3lj2 жыл бұрын

    man I really forgot that you did all these "how to play" videos a while ago. This one felt almost nostalgic. The song was so cool that I wanna listen to it again. Seriously even the part at the end of the video, felt like a 90s movie about adventures in oriental lands

  • @jcbuckley7095
    @jcbuckley70952 жыл бұрын

    Spencer: Hey Jacob, did you leave the fridge open? Jacob thinking she's speaking thieves cant: (opens mouth) *toilet flush*

  • @storyspren
    @storyspren2 жыл бұрын

    Another point in defense of Reliable Talent: Rogues are supposed to be skill monkeys, it's their thing. Yes, Bards get that too but at this level they can also reshape memories and see what's happening on the other side of the globe and summon magic food that makes your mind stronger, so maybe it's reasonable for Rogues to... be consistent in doing something skillfully after putting effort into learning that something.

  • @fish3977

    @fish3977

    4 ай бұрын

    Bards are jack of all trades while rogues are masters of one (or few)

  • @instantpurple1282
    @instantpurple12822 жыл бұрын

    I love this class so much, it makes you feel like a phantom thief and John Wick combined into one. The sheer bonus to skills makes you think about doing some really interesting maneuvers and counters to monsters. (Like shooting a wizard from the rafters of his own tower.) I can't wait to see how the class continues on.

  • @binolombardi
    @binolombardi2 жыл бұрын

    Rogue with sentinel feat is amazing when next to a fighter cavalier or barbarian ancestral guardian. You get to do a lot of damage somewhat safely, and it’s such a spike in efficacy you can experiment with other feats that you might not normally pick.

  • @Ptollemios
    @Ptollemios2 жыл бұрын

    yo jacob. did you know? the ability to move half your speed using your reaction is pretty rad. A melee focused rogue could position themselves to give advantage to them and allies (though I know you don't use this rule, regardless it would be helpful in your personal flanking rules too). In general its a powerful tactical option. Also I agree, take the mobile feat so you will be faster and even harder to pin down as a scout, making you super maneuverable as you have multiple options to essentially dash and disengage. That extra 10 ft at 9th level? means you could move 20 ft at least (if you're not a small race) when you use your reaction to move. Hey thats 25 ft with mobile. advantage on initiative rolls? Do you know how important going first is dude? You have a significant tactical advantage and could drop a weak enemy early, or since you grant advantage against a single target, even if you miss that significant boost to accuracy you just gave your party for a turn is going to turn the tides in your favor if it can be followed up on, especially against a strong foe. an extra attack as a bonus action that can apply sneak attack against a second opponent? sure its spread out damage but that means you could potentially drop 2 weaker minions or do damage to the big bad and a minion. Oh wait you missed that first attack? Well that attack applied advantage to the enemy so guess what? you have advantage on that second attempt and are guaranteed sneak attack. Is the big bad alone? that means on that first turn when you go first and you didn't get sneak attack on that first attack you get it on the second attack on that first turn. scouts dope you're just being a hater yo. i love you though.

  • @captainnyan-nyan2005

    @captainnyan-nyan2005

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a scout. You have two extra expertise included in your kit... If we took everything officially. No multiclass. The scout rogue can be a non magic replacement for ranger. Have the most skill proficiencies and expertise of all the other rogue subclass. Sure assassin have the highest damage ever. But it only applies to a surprise round. 1 round.

  • @BubblingBrooke
    @BubblingBrooke2 жыл бұрын

    Aw come on man Scout has a lot of utility and can help out the party. It's totally does have plenty of flavor! It's super fun and not a bad subclass ;0;

  • @bazhart8781
    @bazhart87812 жыл бұрын

    I am quite a fan of Jacob's videos. The parody stuff is always funny... it seems that my 3 kids (age 8,10,12) like it too, because ever since we watched this video they are are now constantly singing "what kind of rogue are you?" around my house daily. Haha. Nice work.

  • @yetanotherabdalt1839

    @yetanotherabdalt1839

    11 ай бұрын

    Did you point buy for your kids

  • @emurray304
    @emurray3042 жыл бұрын

    Oh boy! This video is perfectly timed as im playing a scout rouge in my groups next campaign, i cant wait to see what insight this video has on my subclass

  • @Missiletainn
    @Missiletainn2 жыл бұрын

    "Scout's the same but arguably worse" Skirmisher >>> Fast Hands (Reaction movement without oppourtunity attacks is much better than bonus action object use) Suvivalist Superior Movement >> Supreme Sneak (Movement is powerful extremely powerful, especially since it increases the reaction movement even more, there are a million ways to get advantage on stealth) Ambush Master >>> Use Magic Device (Unless you are stealing items meant for other party members, you likely aren't going to get many items made for other classes, Ambush master can make very power first turns against bosses) Sudden Strike = Thief's Reflexes (Sudden Strike is very very strong, but better for ranged characters than melee characters so limiting in that way, Thief's Reflexes is really really strong on the first round, but only the first round.) Looking at the abilities, Scout is definitively better than Thief, thief is better situationally.

  • @lexolotlgod

    @lexolotlgod

    2 жыл бұрын

    A lot of salty Scout enjoyers in these comments. Good. I ♥ Scout.

  • @kurtisdeakin

    @kurtisdeakin

    2 жыл бұрын

    He already said he won't apologise lol

  • @lexolotlgod

    @lexolotlgod

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kurtisdeakin I know! >=( Going to be playing Fighter (3)/Rogue (17) in an upcoming campaign, going Echo Knight and Scout. I will NEVER be pinned down.

  • @maybevoldemort8995

    @maybevoldemort8995

    2 жыл бұрын

    The problem with the reaction movement once you get past early levels is that you get it after they’ve attacked… which, if they hit, you may well want to use uncanny dodge on. I just don’t see that much benefit in reaction moving ten feet, unless it will stop another enemy reaching you. But rogues have enough mobility that you should generally be able to avoid this anyway. I like fast hands for the combat medic thief build, but it is pretty situational outside of that usage. Advantage on stealth rolls isn’t super easy to come by imo, but pass without trace exists, which is better than advantage, so definitely agree supreme sneak isn’t great

  • @Linkdoesminecraft100

    @Linkdoesminecraft100

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lexolotlgod i would recommend taking Fighter to level 7. You can possess your echo and use it for reconnaissance while having all of the abilities of scout

  • @vasudeanguy8523
    @vasudeanguy85232 жыл бұрын

    I actually made a Rogue who's expertise was Investigation and Perception(private eye style character) he wasn't even proficient in thieves' tools. He was a blast.

  • @Heyhowsitgoin999

    @Heyhowsitgoin999

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unless you worked something out with your DM the base Rogue Class has Proficiency in Thieves' Tools out of the box.

  • @MandalorV7

    @MandalorV7

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I’m playing a Batman/ Nitghtwing inspired vigilante rogue. It is fun to have a high investigation score. The DM has this big conspiracy going on in the main plot and it’s fun to gather and put the clues together.

  • @vasudeanguy8523

    @vasudeanguy8523

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Heyhowsitgoin999 I did.

  • @Heyhowsitgoin999

    @Heyhowsitgoin999

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MandalorV7 I have a back up character who's a Battle Smith Artificer who is built to be a Private Investigator. A single damave cantrip and then just support spells, and focusing on using the automaton for protection.

  • @johandori7795
    @johandori77952 жыл бұрын

    I love your (usually) little songs, they're so freaking catchy.

  • @dudo4ok
    @dudo4ok2 жыл бұрын

    Song killed it lmao, I even don't play DND but love to watch your videos, thanks for the content you make!

  • @Sal_Sally_Something
    @Sal_Sally_Something2 жыл бұрын

    Just had a new player decide to be a rogue and I'm sending them this

  • @ShurikenSean

    @ShurikenSean

    2 жыл бұрын

    the original video is also great

  • @BuildinWings
    @BuildinWings2 жыл бұрын

    "Bonusactiondisengage" is my new "Pocket sand."

  • @lt.branwulfram4794
    @lt.branwulfram47942 жыл бұрын

    The Scout has one simple but effective role-play feature: Survivalist. It gives them proficiency and expertise in the Nature and Survival skills, which not only are on brand for a brigand whose jobs often bring them out into the wilderness but can also save their party's bacon in a pinch. Skirmisher does sacrifice your reaction but it can make some distance between you and your opponent, which is really good especially if using hand crossbows or even firearms as primary weapons. Superior Mobility also kind of feeds into that, increasing the Skirmisher distance from 15 to 20 or to 25 when combined with the Mobile feat. Ambush Master is another synergistic Rogue feature for the party in combat, since if you're facing off against a single large target, simply by hitting them do you grant everyone else in your party advantage to hit them. Good for the resident Barbarian or Paladin but even better if, for some reason, you decided to be in an all-Rogue party for the lolz and memes. In that party, if you went first, you'd be automatically guaranteeing everyone else's Sneak Attack provided no other detrimental disadvantage dealing effect is active. Sudden Strike, whilst a late-game feature, is a grand reward for sticking with the class for so long that you can pop Sneak Attack as a bonus action against an enemy creature as long as it's not the same creature you attacked prior. Compared to Thieves' Reflexes, which applies once per combat, since Sudden Strike is a bonus action, you get to do this TWICE on all of your turns, which can help lighten the load for the frontline combatants if you and the party got yourselves into a fight against a large horde of goblins, for example. "Damage now is better than damage later." - Kobold from Pack Tactics

  • @exqueue3813

    @exqueue3813

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're fighting a horde of goblins at level 17 something is seriously weird with your campaign.

  • @shuriken188

    @shuriken188

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@exqueue3813 Not to mention the hard counter to a horde of goblins is like, a single fireball. AOE attacks at this level just delete things like goblins and kobolds, and magic users are great at AOE.

  • @matthewparker9276

    @matthewparker9276

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shuriken188 if you're fighting goblins at level 17, your DM isn't going to have them all within the radius of a single fireball.

  • @Eisenwulf666

    @Eisenwulf666

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah,like others stated, while it's theoretically possible and cool you can attack a lot of enemies, at that level you usually fight some outsiders, archmages with powerful bodyguards, liches,really Really tanky monsters(because the DM has no imagination and thinks that lots of HP= bigger challenge), all of which are immune to sneak attacks(or so freaking tanky that it doesn't matter). So you're just a brooding fighter with less hp and darker clothes. Is it evident i'm not a fan of higher level play?

  • @jettlucashayes8508

    @jettlucashayes8508

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol just play ranger and good berry juggle for that plus ranger's have entangle and spike growth not to mention conjure woodland creatures. Hunter's mar is also a awful spell btw

  • @wyattharmsen6564
    @wyattharmsen65642 жыл бұрын

    Him "shooting people up to forever away" Me who made a fighter that at level 5 could shoot his longbow with a +11 and a range of 1280 feet for an average of 16 damage per shot

  • @Knightfall8
    @Knightfall8 Жыл бұрын

    I LOVE your explanation of Thieves' Cant. It's how my brother and I ran it back in the day, but before the global phenomenon if internet memes we never had the language to elegantly convey our interpretation of what it meant in-game

  • @princephantom1294
    @princephantom12942 жыл бұрын

    Love how the mastermind capstone feature is being held up as good while flat extra damage from the scout is bad apparently. Like, how often in DND has your character had its mind read? Literally never for me. The ability is almost useless, which sucks.

  • @kiwi3085

    @kiwi3085

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's dependant on what kinda game you're playing. Mastermind's definitely for more pf a sherlock holmes or oceans 11 kinda game.

  • @Lycaon1765

    @Lycaon1765

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean, how would you KNOW you had your mind read??? Think about that, FOOL. (jk)

  • @chase7629

    @chase7629

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s because at that level the mastermind is already cool and awesome so getting a flavouful ability is cool where as scout is still boring at that level and just gets something else kinda boring

  • @daltigoth3970

    @daltigoth3970

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chase7629 An extra attack that can apply a second sneak attack in the same turn might be "boring", but it is very powerful and definitely tops anything the Thief subclass brings to the table. The subclass is designed around an archer build and ambush tactics, and is meant to be played similar to an archery ranger, but with sneak attacks instead of extra attacks. So if you want an archer that is focused on precision attacks and stealth (like most archers in fantasy media - Legolas, Green Arrow, Robin Hood, etc.), scout is the best fit for that.

  • @peetamontrose7954

    @peetamontrose7954

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends a lot on the DM and the game you are playing 😸

  • @pocketmonster1088
    @pocketmonster10882 жыл бұрын

    I like how the disadvantage example would still give Sneak Attack because they cancel out and an ally is within 5 feet.

  • @franciscarpentier5452
    @franciscarpentier54522 жыл бұрын

    I missed these kind of videos! Awesome work!

  • @g80gzt
    @g80gzt2 жыл бұрын

    Fun facterino: A ranged attack only has that 'adjacency disadvantage' IF: There is a creature within 5 feet of you, that creature is hostile to you, that creature is not incapacitated, AND that creature can see you. ALL of those have to be true - if they're stunned or blind, if you're invisible, then nada, no disadvantage. Fun fact, a ranged attack can autocrit an unconscious/paralyzed creature, if within 5 feet.

  • @aionicthunder
    @aionicthunder2 жыл бұрын

    14:19 Just like the Scout: using a shortbow and flanking (which is stupid easy to get), that’s two attacks, each dealing 10d6+dex. If both hit, that’s an average of: 80 damage (assuming +5 DEX)

  • @94alibey

    @94alibey

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dealing 80 dmg to 1 guy is much better than dealing 40 to 2 guys tho

  • @aionicthunder

    @aionicthunder

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@94alibey Ah. Didn’t notice the “can’t use sneak attack on the same target” part. Nevermind, then, it is just worse

  • @exqueue3813

    @exqueue3813

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're planning for endgame scout 17 barbarian 2 guarantees both sneak attacks and doubles the damage dice. You just have to build for STR instead of DEX.

  • @gazelle_diamond9768

    @gazelle_diamond9768

    2 жыл бұрын

    Both of you apparently can't read. The assassin's features almost never come up and if it does, it can only happen at the start of the combat encounter (and is also tied to a saving throw in the most common save) while the scout literally just gets an extra attack WITH sneak attack.

  • @pauleean4364

    @pauleean4364

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@94alibey And dealing 80 damage every round is much better then dealing 80 damage on the first round of 1/3rd of combat encounters. And honestly that's being generous to the assassin.

  • @paytonborland2327
    @paytonborland23272 жыл бұрын

    Revisiting this series is like seeing an old friend again. Great work as always Jacob, keep up the good content

  • @charliebear2048
    @charliebear20482 жыл бұрын

    What I like about getting Thieves' Cant with Linguist is that it's flavored to be you understanding how language works, and being able to decode the cyphers left by others with relative ease

  • @mimic1193
    @mimic11932 жыл бұрын

    Literally came back to this video just to say how good it is (I'd watched it on my TV at first so couldn't comment then); Not only was it informative and funny but I've been at my desk this morning quietly singing to myself "what kind of rogue are you, what type of things do you do" non stop

  • @matiashidalgo3441
    @matiashidalgo34412 жыл бұрын

    Good to hear your bard voice again Jacob. Please don't ever put down the guitar my dude, this was a pleasant tune

  • @Spiritxiii
    @Spiritxiii2 жыл бұрын

    Man, wouldn’t it be great if you could cover all the other classes and subclasses?! :D Seriously though, I loved the original series and this was great so I hope to see more remakes covering the new content.

  • @asdrubalgomes8782
    @asdrubalgomes87822 жыл бұрын

    I truely enjoyed "what kind of rogue are you?". Sounds pretty nice, mate. Greetings from Brazil!

  • @v.v365
    @v.v3652 жыл бұрын

    Watching this video I got inspired to make a rogue character who’s like a more kind and sweet Indiana Jones, who can dodge traps and get into locked areas and who needs to warm up to the idea of murder

  • @skycastrum5803
    @skycastrum58032 жыл бұрын

    Scout has plenty of flavor. It’s great for someone that wants to play a more realistic ranger (no magic). Sure, you could do fighter, but fighter can be pretty much anything non-magic. As for abilities, I personally think expertise is what makes the rogue. Getting more is great. Plus, skirmisher is fun to mess around with.

  • @Enzevil
    @Enzevil2 жыл бұрын

    Loved this video so freaking much Jacob! The original brought me in this channel and has been one of my favorites since then, and still is today. Thanks for making me laugh so hard. Keep it going brother!

  • @zackmuravev2730
    @zackmuravev27302 жыл бұрын

    Wild, from start to finish. A standing ovation!

  • @oliviasimkinsbullock8421
    @oliviasimkinsbullock8421 Жыл бұрын

    i wish your video stats could show me hitting subscribe five seconds into the "what kind of rogue are you" song. song slaps, your video is hilarious, and this is genuinely such a helpful class overview 😂

  • @Chconroy
    @Chconroy2 жыл бұрын

    We recently started up a new campaign after ending our last one and I finally get to play a Rogue. This video does a great summing up why I've always wanted to play this class.

  • @ManrayO_O
    @ManrayO_O2 жыл бұрын

    SCOUT IS SO GOOD! You get Expertise in Nature and Survival at level 3, gain +10 ft to your movement speed at level 9, you even get ADVANTAGE ON INITIATIVE at 13th level. I played a Wood Elf Rogue Scout and I had a blast!

  • @davidstratton696

    @davidstratton696

    2 жыл бұрын

    If u play as a swashbuckler u can add your Cha to your initiative (which can be better then advantage since advantage is basically the equivalent of +4). And reliable talent means u can’t roll below 10 on your initiative since it’s a dex ability check. And then pick up mobile feat to get the extra movement (tho swashbucklers already get part of the mobile feat but I’m just trying to make a point). And then if u want another expertise then get skill expert. Scout is ok but it’s definitely nothing special and could definitely be better.

  • @imagineian0146
    @imagineian0146 Жыл бұрын

    According to a fun book, apparently using Uncanny Dodge on the planet when falling is called flight.

  • @chumito10
    @chumito1023 күн бұрын

    Been playing a rogue for the 1st 6 levels through a series of one-shots. This was both entertaining and informative, thank you!

  • @mangocheesecake1771
    @mangocheesecake17712 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see the new races.

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    Last I checked... The new races in DND are just reskins for the next major rule book, along with a "new" PHB coming afterward.

  • @mangocheesecake1771

    @mangocheesecake1771

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@absolstoryoffiction6615 By new I just mean the races he didn't cover in his what should you play video.

  • @KnicKnac
    @KnicKnac2 жыл бұрын

    Scout was fun as a deep gnome in the Underdark. One of my favorite rogue choices. Skirmisher is an awesome movement ability. The subclass is awesome for smaller lineages for the extra movement.

  • @sammayes948
    @sammayes9482 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, the bangers from xp to level 3. A personal favorite

  • @jespersoderlund1055
    @jespersoderlund10557 ай бұрын

    I started playing dnd this year, joining an existing campaign that some friends have had for numerous years. I didn’t know much about the game so when the DM gave me a summary of the plot so far I decided to play a rogue, as I felt it fit the campaign the best. After roughly 100 hours of playing I’m still pretty insecure when it comes to abilities and such but videos like this helps a lot. In addition they help to relieve some of the pressure related to knowing all the rules.

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