First minute - yup. Got my Nelson, first 3 games, T8's just citted me from the front all day long. Thanks for the tips on how to do it right!

@Tuning3434

3 жыл бұрын

I totally nailed a Nelson from the rear in my DoY

Nelson is one of my favourite ships in the game. Those super heals have brought me back from the brink of death so many times, though I need to learn from this video and try to autobounce more shots while slinging HE back. My favourite premium though is Mikasa. Her main guns might be kinda meh, but her secondaries just bully everything at Tier II and III. So many times I'll be hunting the other team's Mikasa and end up with 3-5 kills from secondaries without me having to even do anything. That's a lot of fun for me personally.

@robertf3479

3 жыл бұрын

I like playing Mikasa for the same reason. Jingles did a video on the Mikasa a while back and I picked up some play hints from him about the secondary's, played properly she can give T3 BBs a hard time. She has me thinking that WG should think about adding a few more 'predreadnoughts' to the game.

My goodness what great timing, was about to buy Nelson because I got the Azure lane commander in a crate a while ago. Nice job chase

@treekid7455

3 жыл бұрын

how did you get her from a crate, she is a year 1 commander

@calebbrown2776

3 жыл бұрын

@@treekid7455 Twitch prime had a free Azur Lane commander crate about a couple months ago

@treekid7455

3 жыл бұрын

@@calebbrown2776 thats third year crate

@majestichotwings6974

3 жыл бұрын

Tree Kid yeah I’m pretty sure it was a twitch prime thing, but yeah got her in a crate, I haven’t spent a penny on azure lane commanders, anything I have I got for free

@treekid7455

3 жыл бұрын

@@majestichotwings6974 there must be something i missed then, i swear the crate said only third year commanders😔

This ship really is the ultimate bully of smaller ships especially of its own tier or lower

The bow and stern is 26mm..... hey every mm matters!

This is exactly how I play Goliath. People think that ship is trash, but it's amazing. I do like 5- 8k with 1-2 fires every 15 seconds while tanking a ton of damage for my team because battleships think they can blap me.

@zzirSnipzz1

3 жыл бұрын

I love to do well in ships people call trash I.e emerald etc

Yes, HMS Nelson is a tricky ship at first, but once you figure out the bounce trick, she can be a real threat. One of my favorite Tier VII battleships. Pick your battles, snipe from range, make Tier VIII's and IX's cry.

@pdorn1

3 жыл бұрын

>snipe from range So, a boring ship that cannot be used to make aggressive plays, only troll. Not exactly a glowing recommendation.

I've been playing the Nelson bow-in ever since I got her, turns out I'm playing her the wrong way all the time! Thanks for this!

When I went through my Royal Navy recruitment back in the 1980s the school liaison officer was called Captain Evans who served on HMS Nelson before and during WW2. Absolutely fascinating stories. He was gunnery officer for 18 months during the war.

Excellent Advice from Chase. Never really thought about playing this way, because all the turrets are in the front.

Thank you!!! I just had a 133k T8 game where I ended top of the list with this advice!! You rock!! I might have to pull her out of mothballs into primary ship status!

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! :D

Thank you, I tend to get citadeled from the weirdest angles.

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, try to be more careful with the angling, although autobounce can occasionally fail you. So it could be that

@cesarrodriguz7549

3 жыл бұрын

@@ichasegaming Yeah, my biggest issue is I feel like I tend to keep my distance to much, so instead of kiting I sometimes angle my front in a way that I actually bounce 16 inch shells. Then again, if im not careful Its gonna hurt.

I agree Chase, Nelson really isn't a bad ship, I learned how to deal with some of her shortcomings early on and have had some good matches with her. That said I missed that detail about the upper armor belt, so thank you very much.

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome :D knowing this bit about Nelson will make her that much stronger in battles

Thanks for the direction on how to fight the Nelson. I have been thinking about getting her for over a year, and have plenty of free experience to do so. I have just been undecided about whether she was worthwhile getting, but your video convinces me that she is.

14:03 great torps beat intensified

Chase: all your shots will bounce or do little dmg USN players: *fires HE* Chase: ....

@thomaskositzki9424

3 жыл бұрын

Answer of Chase: Yeah you do that a little while longer while I sink you. Haven't you seen the heal? Brit BBs with super-heal don't care about HE damage at all.

Thanks, been struggling to figure out this ship.

Thank you so much! After wtaching this I played two games where I got 130k+ and in one of them 6 kills, 3 devstrikes and confederate. Yeah I was top tier but this video was unbelievably helpful!

Nice! I got Nelson recently, haven't used her yet. Now I know what to do. Thanks

Thank you for this excellent lesson on how to play Nelson, will try to put it into practice next time I take her out

Thanks for the info! I got the Nelson for 20 games now and wasn't really convinced so far. Everyone and their moms can overmatch you, and the side armor didn't look too convincing either so I didn't angle as much as you do. I didn't realize it is enogh for bouncing. :D

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Excellent class iChase!

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you :D

This is very helpful as I have just started to do a series on my channel just with my premium ships , starting with the low tiers and then moving up. I will put this into practice when I do a video on my Nelson. If anyone does watch any of the series, please don't blame the ships, I'm a terrible ship driver LOL.

I love this kind of Ship How To video!

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

:D yus! really happy to read your comment

Nelson got big shock absorbing Bootay! Use it. You got the heavy guns too, use your AP against BB's and HE overmatches cruisers, so HE on CC's and DD's

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly lol xD use that thicc bootay for maximum bounciness

Thx alot for the tips. I really learned alot today.

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

When people shoot HE at me, I enjoy typing in global chat: It burns! Feels gooood! Nelson is a fun ship to push in with on a tier 7 match. It's so slow that you're really pushing in a 2nd wave and lots of times people will be caught off guard and confused. Sure, you can't face tank, but a pushing BB can sometimes rally a scared group of teammates into action. You can finish off a low health target or 2 and further embolden your teammates.

Great video, but I was very surprised that even having perfect opportunity, you did not show another great aspect of the Nelson - he is an awesome dd hunter! Since Nelson's guns can instantly change side (from left to right and back), when there is a dd, even in smoke (which is even better), you just charge towards him, but at an angle (enough to shoot all 3 guns). If available, watch the PT to detect torp launch. If not, just judge by the "spotted" indicator. When you get spotted, give like 15 seconds so dd can launch his torps, then suddenly change the side, sail in same direction (towards dd) but to opposite side (instead of 20 degree left, now it's 20 degree right). And soon you will see the torps passing by. When you get closer, eventually the DD might smoke, you can keep zigzagging, or just rush straight to the smoke. In worst case, dd will shoot his torps straight to you, maybe you take 1 or at most 2 (and use the 22k heal if needed), and soon you will push the DD out of the smoke or spot him at minimum range and blap him with all 9 (or at least 6) HE guns. I killed many dds this way, sometimes even in pairs, Nelson is very fun because they just don't expect you to do that.

Great Vid, Chase. Thanks

YEEEEEEESS!!! I can't figure out how to play the Nelson. Appreciate this video!

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

^_^ you're welcome

What a nice "advice". Glad it will be played such way mostly on US server. Instead of 26 mm bow + 305 mm citadel frontal armour, which with the actual right 30-35 deg angling provides 400+ mm of total effective armour (however still not enough to stop 15` and above shells from in middle-to-close distances), it will be 26 mm of bow + 32 of citadel rear (not more than 100 mm in total with adequate angling). Yes, it is obvious, that in this game and through the history in general - defence is more effective tactic (kiting is a defensive one), but all defence provided by such positioning is only by the wrong aiming of the enemy, that will hit the centre. It works up to the first enemy, who can hit things and will purposely target the stern itself. And from such position, Nelson can be citadeled by things, such as Pensacola thanks to the shorter stern.

@igoryst3049

3 жыл бұрын

I once triple citadelled one in a Myoko

Nelson's firepower is disgusting for tier 7 and could easily be considered tier or tier 9 on that aspect. A paper ship if not amgled however.

@michaelgimenez4032

3 жыл бұрын

@vesuvius Sinop gave me PTSD on the last tier7 Ranked season.... That thing is absolutely broken for tier 7.

@juicemeister1984

3 жыл бұрын

sinOP has a large cit so dont broadside, bow/aft angle to avoid this. if you fucked up ur hp you snipe if ur hp is still 2/3 of the total you can push at mid/end game hunt cruisers first because HE is fucking annoying 406 on t7 is good but 33sec reload so think about target prioritizing dont rush dd, use ur "fuck you plane" button when cv actually attackes you try to target cits, maybe shoot on the waterline below the guns to get detonations

This was really interesting, thank you

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Hope it helps

The Izumo can be played the same way. I call it reverse side scraping

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, it can. It's more expected from Izumo, but not so much with a Nelson.

@TheMonk52

3 жыл бұрын

Can you this effectively still while pushing or is this best done when reversing

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

not as easy to do when pushing due to the ship's big, vulnerable bow. Easier to do when on the defensive and kiting.

Will think about this next time I play it

Thanks u @ichase. Game needs more unique fun ships like this one

I remember to have kited a full hp FDG and bismarck for 10 min straight with my half Hp Nelson, bismarck gave up with half is hp left, and I burned down the FDG, while I had more health than at the beginning of the fight. No need to say the FDG was salty .

@xsu-is7vq

3 жыл бұрын

nelson able to kit away from those two ships is already an incredible enough story

@cccooooooolllllllll7344

3 жыл бұрын

@@xsu-is7vq Well actually Nelson doesn't have a good armor in general, but if you angle your ship well ( aka if you roughly put your enemy ship in the axe of the angle of your citadel, wich so happen to be the angle at wich your 3 turret can fire at the same time) you are strangely tanky for such a poorly armored ship . And of course you have to watch the map and react accordingly, or you 'll get flanked and killed , and watch for torps or you will lose a lot of hp not healable. And you have to stay >13 km from german BB in general. And you have to start kiting at max range to stay >13km. So hard but not impossible.

@stallfighter

3 жыл бұрын

@@cccooooooolllllllll7344 also you can hit the brakes after you saw enemy shot to ensure 32 mm bounces

@yourmamom

3 жыл бұрын

Only because poor German BBs cant hope to hit what they are aiming at reliably. Let alone hit specific weakspots.

I've spend hundred games with Lenin and mostly do Bow Tank with him because his strong bow. and yeah not gonna lie when i buy Neslon and do same way of playing, very sprised because this bow just eat all those enemy BB shell unlike Lenin's bow. xD Very thanks iChase for this useful tips, trying with this style with T9 BB. and yeah, i hear those boink sound i usually heard it when Bow in Lenin.

Love this ship, my second favourite after the JB

perfect HOW TO! Thanks a lot!

@TheKeulinchen

3 жыл бұрын

Now I save my free xp for this ship ;)

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Thanks for the vid I'm finding the Nelson a challenge.

I stopped losing badly thanks to You!!! Thank you very MUCH!@!!!!!

Huh i never thought about playing the Nelson like that

@serbreadboard8578

3 жыл бұрын

I discovered it by accident without looking at numbers. Hey, when I'm presenting this kind of angle, I bounce even the 16inch shells which normally overmatch me and I bait people with my broadside before angling. Then I tried it against a Musashi and got dev struck lol

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Can't try it with Musashi lol xD 460 still eats you alive

@brotato7640

3 жыл бұрын

@@ichasegaming so what do you do against Musashi. Kite like a DD?

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

@Brotato 76 runnnn away like a lil girl :P fire HE when able but yeah don't directly engage Musashi

great info...thankx

Imagine if you had Izumo’s turret layout for the better stern angles

@srir.5282

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr, I wish they swap the turrets lol Izumo would love this turret layout

@eMercody

3 жыл бұрын

I kinda like Izumo as is though, she is a pretty mean kite that does get access to a (as niche as it may be) secondary build.

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

I actually like Nelson's turrets better, in some situations the all forward firepower is an advantage

Good vid. The Nelson was fun before. Now, using this info, it's stupid fun.

Kinda reminds me of Thunderer tips, except more emphasis on range and AP.

that happens only against bbs that dont know how to overmatch the stern... though u don't risk getting citadeled from behind because there is no turret. nelson is pretty mobile, but u cant risk eating citadels or torps

*Mah Favorite BattleTanker!*

What is that heal thing by your ship's health? The one that shows how much your heal does, and how much you can actually heal? Is it a mod or a setting I'm overlooking?

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

It's a mod from the official modstation, should be called a regen assistant

love the nelly i try to hang back at the start and rain he support the team.. then go in close and slap people with AP great times

Question, why didn't you try to blindfire the Alsace even if she was out of your view range but detected on the minimap? Thank you

4 heals with signal-flag? do you expect to next to only burn?

i've been using this on many BBs/CAs especially when playing in the smaller/losing flank or when deploying spotter (on CAs). having mixed results though

I love playin her

I love this ship so am watching this and taking note, i see you don't use AP rounds that much, I prefer to constantly switch between the two, nice gameplay though.

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

I do switch to AP, but must be during the correct opportunities to do so. Most times HE is more reliable

Best use of FXP in game

My 29% win rate Nelson (as opposed to 57% for all battleships) is eager to try out this style...

@dclark142002

3 жыл бұрын

...tried it, still lost. Probably not using AP effectively enough.

Unfortunate that the Nelson has comparable penetration to the Kongo and Fuso from what I can see on the WoWS fitting tool.

@miyano3116

3 жыл бұрын

Nelson (along with the majority of British BBs) has shorter AP fuse time... so yeah.

@gusty9053

3 жыл бұрын

And yet it's a great cruiser killer plus people tend to forget you have AP so BB gave me flat sides plenty of times.

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Her penetration isn't great, but you tend to use AP in more selective times. Mostly it's HE

@NucleAri

3 жыл бұрын

iChaseGaming I guess that’s true, but I am not a big fan of HE spamming in a BB. But having lower penetration than 14 inch guns with 16 inch guns is strange. I believe you when you say it’s good, but it takes getting used to for me to use HE in a BB.

@igoryst3049

3 жыл бұрын

GabeTheDespot E-1 historically Nelson’s 406mm shells didn’t weight much more than 381mm shells

Started from hating the ship (hey she was a free exp ship so i said wth ? and got it) to turning into my favorite ship. :) while turning out i was playing it wrong all the way :)))

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

:D that's awesome to hear

Do you have it fully set up or is this a stock nelson?

Nelson is amazing. Her guns are the wrath of Zeus incarnated.

@JoaoBarbosa1996

3 жыл бұрын

USE HER AP TOO

Chase is this also how the Lenin should be played?

Was this inspired by the... questionably played Nelson in the last vid? :P

@edikis3189

3 жыл бұрын

Gareth Fairclough probably

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, yup

She a great ship

I see you don't use the minimap to aim blind shots while in a cyclone, is that just because you were trying to get specific content, or do you not use it at all?

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes I use it, sometimes I don't. When I'm opting for positioning, I don't like giving my position away. Especially because I know an Alsace has 380s and can overmatch me and hurt me badly if the Alsace is ready for me and knows my direction

Hi "INSANEUSMC", by the way! @8:27

i don't know if i should get it because i will be getting thunderer

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

They should be separate resources, Nelson being FEXP and Thunderer being coal. Get both imo

@PrintScreen.

3 жыл бұрын

@@ichasegaming yes, but they're kinda similar, both having great HE and good AP too. i did buy alaska so this would be my second fxp ship

I play Yamato and Izumo like that, is that bad?

The nelson is a paper ship aim for the 2nd middle 16 inch main gun and its out for the count

*! Expecting 32mm bounce is not working to good players !*

Nelson is lovely AP bomb food for ryuujo

@igoryst3049

3 жыл бұрын

It has no AA

@reinhardofavercland7448

3 жыл бұрын

Only if you don't make any attempt to dodge. AP bombs on IJN CVs sometimes miss a perfectly aligned drop with a bit of steering.

Not only BBs but all T5-7 light cruisers as well. IFHE makes no difference

Basically play it like a Izumo. Reverse Tank FTW.

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

And spam HE, big difference there

@holyomega3093

3 жыл бұрын

@@ichasegaming True.

realized i never play Nelson outside operation.

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

It's a good ship in randoms, should give it a try

My Georgia loves Nelsons

What's the white octopus symbol above chat mean ?

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

It's a mod that shows captain skills, I use it sometimes to show people my build during streams :)

@DivineInt

3 жыл бұрын

@@ichasegaming Ah right, cool thanks mate :)

with that raised citadel doesnt that mean they are a prime target for a japanese bomber fleet? since they have the ap capability

@miyano3116

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Though with her weak AA, it's free real estate for any CVs anyway.

@monicareves3568

3 жыл бұрын

@@miyano3116 true but i mean mmm citadels

please can someone tell me how to activate the life counter that can recover?

@Gailim

3 жыл бұрын

its a mod in the official mod station

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

WoWS modstation: regen assistant I think

Would have been nice to see your build and captain skills

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Standard battleship build :) for 21 points 1: ERS, 2: (PT or Grease the Gears), 3: AR, BoS, 4: ERE, CE, FPE

Nice vid. A question,, I see you constantly playing with the rudder between salvoes, my question is, if the Massa times it correctly and lands his salvo on your side when all three of your turrent are aiming at him, will the angle be enough to bounce or will he get penetration damage?

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Should still be enough to bounce, but you do have to be more careful, meaning you gotta time the opponents salvo as well

@khurdur2939

3 жыл бұрын

@@ichasegaming thanks,, I have played quite a few games in Nelson, I do well, just by sitting bow in but keeping my distance, but I never thought of kiting in it.

ahh play it like an Izumo

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, but Nelson's HE is a lot more lethal

Ahhhhhh my fireproof flag farmer

You should have used your Repair Party and healed up right after the enemy Edinburgh was sunk at around 8-minutes in the vid. There's no point in saving the heal when you have to cross quite a distance anyway to meet the enemies coming from the east so you have lots of time to be recharging it. You don't even see another enemy ship for almost two and a half minutes. And then, again, when Alaska is sunk, you fail to use your repair party to heal up. That's really risky when you could potentially eat a bunch of torpedoes at less than half HP. Why take unnecessary risks?

Took you hell of a time to notice you needed repairs. If would have been nice to see it in real time, to get an impression of the healing.

Nelson HE may be nice... But don't forget Nelson AP hits like a damned HAMMER. Set em on fire then beat the fire out with AP, restart the fire then put it out with AP for them again.

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Nelson AP can be bounced when angled against and plus at longer distances can be anemic at times. HE more reliable :D

@Dawgsofwinter

3 жыл бұрын

@@ichasegaming True that all comes into target selection, distance, and are they angled or thinking oh its JUST a Nelson. There's a reason Nelson's kept popping up throughout T7 ranked. And it wasn't just the fire. I've been on both ends of her AP properly timed and aimed there's nothing anemic about it.

Was this gameplay also applicable to lenin?

@ichasegaming

3 жыл бұрын

Only somewhat, Lenin is a lot more durable due to 32mm bow and good forward turret angles. Lenin is like a perfected Nelson

Look at all the campers on the other team lol

I dont mind spending money. But I came to the game too late. They just removed some amazing ships and I missed my chance. Im trying to research whats worth anything march 21?~

@bjornefellhanded9708

3 жыл бұрын

Theyre not removing them for 3 months...

Fine game... but not using the super repair is just a mispaly. What are 4 uses left if you're less than half your health ??

@cake.

3 жыл бұрын

there was no threat of him dying and he gets AR boost. Don't heal unless you need the hp otherwise you are limiting the effect AR gives.

Sounds great until you run into a Musashi

I was a sole nelly on a flank and my AP wouldnt do much for me enemy tier 8 cruisers spanning HE at me I switched to HE and made the entire flank run away and laughed at there puny HE while healing 3 fires muhahahaha

>:) oh wait I don't have Nelson :(

The real Nelson is designed for offensive bow-on strategies with all its turrets installed forward. In the game, it ends up being the opposite...

@Moltenbramley

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong. The Nelson’s design is for optimum armour distribution given the Washington treaty limitations.

I still wonder how these are relevant to Console play...not only are they differwnt tier but different developers

Yeah but how do you get a damn citadel when using it!!!!

Thats a lot of credits for a prem tier VII ship, i have a scharnhorst but she earn credit less than my graf spee.-. Got 250k credits in 100k damage is meh-_-

Edit: AVOID THE NELSON. WHAT A WASTE OF XP. GOOD RIDDANCE - IT'LL BE GONE SOON So "how do you play the Nelson correctly?" This video says: 1. Don't attack facing forward ("bow in" toward enemy in front of you) - But there is little armor at the rear. 2. (DO NOT do this) -- Position your Nelson at an angle with your rear/stern pointing toward the enemy 3. Don't expose your broadsides to the enemy (Yup)

This ship is a bully specially for high tier HE like thunderer. That's why WG decided remove this ship this coming update on 10.5. 350k fxp closer to get her soon.

Just Press T already