I learned to fly when I could afford to do so. First solo at 49, flight test at 50. So be it. It was the most fun I had had in a long time. Not all rewards have price tags on them.

@khalidsaif5459

5 жыл бұрын

So now what's your age ?

The sad thing is, it was my birthday the other day and got scrabble instead of flight training money 😂

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

#ebay

@LukaT

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a nice game ...

Finally, a well educated KZreadr, that actually knows what they are talking about, rather than pretending to know what they are talking about. Well done, mate. This was an especially excellent video. You really explained this topic in a useful way.

Great advice Stef, I gave up my recreational flying so that my son could do it instead, he has just got his ATPL and a job as a first officer. Remortgaged my house to help him, but that’s what Mum and Dads do!! He has just set up a repayment plan. Also in the UK you can get funding by doing a degree in Aviation at Middlesex Uni. That gives you student finance for living and 3 years of fees to help. Good luck people!

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, that’s an incredibly selfless act. What a wonderful thing to do for your son. I hope he truly loves his flying and turns it into something that will keep him happy for life. He clearly has parents that love him a lot. Thanks for sharing that.

@Astrobutch0901

5 жыл бұрын

Stefan Drury He has the same passion that you do mate! When you see that in your children, nurture it, it’s something truly special. Next time you’re in the UK, try to get to EGLM, White Waltham, beautiful little airfield west of London. That’s where he started!

Loving the social media idea! It’s something that I’ve been looking at for a while anyway and I’ve found some free courses on,one as well, so thank you for the idea!

One of the best vids you've done IMO, full of sensible information.

Simple, transparent advice. Thank you Stefan. Nice to know I’m not the only one on a similar journey! All the best

Great Video Stef! I remember you giving me similar information at the Avalon Airshow this year. I have really taken it on board! Thank you for giving you knowledge onto me and others!!

I am so glad we met that day in Melbourne. Seriously fortuitous. GREAT video!

I don’t usually comment on videos (actually never), but this one was just amazing. The way you explained everything in this video was truly a work of art. Thank you for relieving a little of bit of stress of my back and many others. Much love!

Great advice! I'm starting my PPL this Monday! I've broken it into chunks as you were saying so hopefully that will help to manage the finances 😊 keep up the great work and keep giving us the great content!

This is by far the best and most realistic video on this subject I’ve watched thankyou

Great advise Stef, and the small snippet of YBRM. Enjoy your week.

Love your videos Stef, great mixed amount of content and great advice! Keep it up

One of the best videos on saving money for flying I’ve seen. 🙏

Stef, I do think your videos are getting better every day and really appreciate all the work you've put into this one! Two thumbs up!! :-) As someone who has been forced to wait, due Melbourne weather, for TWO MONTHS!!! to do my long solo nav (maybe it'll happen next month?) and hence knows the frustration of a PPL goal just out of reach, this video should be required viewing for all flight students. Patience is the biggest flying lesson there is.

Thanks for giving those interested in flying some tips on how to be able to afford it. I would love to get my PPL, but honestly cannot see it happening for a good 10 years. Much like you, I run my own business, and time & money are always tight. I am not in a rush to get flying, so I will just live vicariously through you! Keep up the great work, and loving the videos!

Hi Stefan. I was a little leery about this video based on the title. But wow. I was wrong. This is one of the best personal finance videos I have ever seen, and it has so many applications other than flying. As a retired college business instructor, so many “help” videos I have seen are filled with cliches, but your presentation is factual, imaginative and fresh. Well done.

These are helpful tips. Thanks! Can’t wait until my time and finances free up to allow me to get my license. I’ve already done the research around Cincinnati here. Hopefully I can pull the trigger soon!

great stuff. on the cusp to realise my life long obsession and finally start the journey - thanks for the tips and morale boost

Great advice! Particularly the part about any school offering a flat rate for certain licenses! Pays to read the fine print! If it's too good to be true, it probably is!!! Love your work!

Quite possibly the best video on paying for flight school out there. I got a full scholarship to cover my private which I'm finishing up now, but I'm thinking ahead to the cost of building hours and this video definitely helps.

Awesome video! What you said aboit not choosing the nearest airport really spoke to me. My flight school in Essendon has recently closed down and I have decided to go to Bacchus Marsh, I drive an extra half hour, but I don't have to fly 40 minutes (20 to get there and 20 to return) to my training area! Keep up with the great work, Steph!

Great video Stefan, thanks! I started flying later in life (46) and paid cash when I had it and now (four years later) have my FAA Commercial with Instrument, and am starting on my CFI. What a fabulous journey!

Very helpful Stefan. I'll probably be cutting back on come flying over the next year, but this is helpful to see ways I can keep costs down, and maybe fly a little bit more than I hoped!

Sound and sensible advice Stefan, I bet this will help a lot of viewers. Me included. Thanks

Great content! As someone who’s tried most options to finance flying this is some of the most sensible advice going. Follow this man!

Brilliant video Stef, really well balanced! I had three jobs and could only afford an hour a month, but made contacts at the airfield and swapped cleaning planes for 30 mins per week flying. Little by little I got there. :)

Great video! I'm in school working on my it degree, but I've always wanted to learn to fly. After watching your video, I see another way to do it, instead of possibly never doing it due to the cost of it. Thanks for the information!

My advice is to start flying young before other life expenses come into play. I’m 15, paying for my own flying lessons, and will solo in 10 days on my 16th birthday.

@bahenbihen

4 жыл бұрын

Not everyone has the cash to do so. Especially not at 15

@wilfredomanuel3470

4 жыл бұрын

My family can't afford flight school for me and I'm also 15 so I can't really do that

@yeetofda9bruhs839

4 жыл бұрын

How did you pay?

@braydonct

3 жыл бұрын

@@yeetofda9bruhs839 He probably got a job lmao

This is by far one of the best videos, truly helpful.

Great video Stef - a very important topic for most people getting into flying, good on you for discussing! :)

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Joe, glad you found that useful.

Thanks Stefan! This year I renewed my PPL after many years away. For me, flying is one of the few things that keep me going in life. One of the reasons I did it was to maintain my sanity and give myself purpose! At the moment, my flying 'hobby' entirely depends on a part-time job that is somewhat seasonal (ebbs and flows with travel season at the airport). I have my full-time job which pays for my normal life; my part-time job primary wage pays for the flying, and the extra tips I earn from that part-time job pays for all the little extra collectibles and 'wants' ( I like collecting models). The difficulty I have now is that I can't see myself staying at my current career, but I am afraid of the pilot financial lifestyle and what that will mean going forward especially with any debt at my ripe age of 38. I know my CPL will be significantly reduced in cost as I am over 150 hours and getting a night rating next month (we'll say 14-16000 which could be paid in a year or so). And after, I must decide - do I go the flight instructor route, or the multi-IFR? And when / how do I pay for that? M-IFR expires if I expect to keep working two jobs and start working without debt....it would cost more in the end than holding a loan.

Nice work Stefan. Very nice work. [The old gray guy from SNF.] = planning + patience. Success = [80% planning & 20% implementation]

Super helpful tips man. Was all signed up with a to do my PPL and CPL corse at a school in Archerfield when everything shutdown in 2020, causing me to lose my spot. That was a hit and a half. Thankfully didnt lose any money. Never stopped looking at flying, but after finding your channel and watching you fly, is making me get back into it. My coutless hours of FightSim will not be in vain (yes I am aware the FS doesnt really count as any sort of skill, but still love it)

Good video. Back when I started flying (gliders) I was also heavily into flight simulators and I reached out to a Flight Sim magazine to write articles for them. Being the only one of the authors with real experience (even as a student) I had an easy way in, even as a 16 year old ( back in 2002). Also, some good advise in general and Scott Pape would be happy to see a few of his principles mentioned as well ;)

Thanks for this video Stefan! Somehow it sparks back my desire to fly.

I got my PPL at the age of 32. Despite it was my big dream since I was a boy, I had to wait for it until I could afford it. Now I am in the situation when I am a little bit worried that I am not flying enough to improve and continue developing my flying skills simply because of lack of money. Your video made me feel better and inspired me a lot as I see that you faced similar challenges as I do now. But you overcame it and now flying a lot, enjoying the freedom that GA is offering, you travel the world and flying. It's a big big motivation. Keep up the great work and inspirational content ;-)

Bestest advice since I decided to be a pilot. Seriously God bless you man. Stay healthy and loads of love. You gave me a hope. I’m not gonna stop now. Thanks

Hey stef! This really inspired more than I expected! Thanks for this video!!

Loved this video Stef. Money management is everything when it comes to flight training. Doesn't always come easy but the best things in life don't. Sometimes the journey is better than the destination

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Simon, wise words there too, thanks.

Great video as always mate, I have been doing my RAA Certifacte simply because of cost, tips defenlty help, I would love to see a video on the break down of now owning a plane, e.g. moorabin's parking fee's, landing fees and if there was anything you missed or didn't know before owning an aircraft. 👍

Awesome tips Stefan! Definitely gonna share this video with my mates ahahah Fourth option, try get into the military ahahahah. Hope you've been well Stef, Jordan

Thanks mate helped me a lot. I have found out that very few people truly are interested in aviation and few of the fewest commit to becoming one at least in my country. All people are after other "safer" jobs. But I am one of those few guys who really really want to do it and serve my own nation. And I promise I will do it no matter what. 💪 thanks

Great vid Stef. I’m going to point a lot of people to this when i get that question again.

Stefan you have obviously done well in the financial department and know the hard times too. I think your advice is very sound based on experience. Great video...thanks.

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bill, I've certainly had ups and downs that's for sure. Hoping my experiences (and getting through them) can help others with this video. Thanks for the comment.

Great video Stef. People should apply your financial advice to their lives even if they aren’t saving up for flying lessons

@StefanDrury

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, glad lots of people like yourself are enjoying this video. Thanks for watching.

Brilliant informative video. Should be the first step before jumping into the ppl, because as you say life happens and if you have a proper plan in place you will achieve your goal with good consistency (unlike me haha might have my licence completed by 2060) and it will reduce dramatically putting any pressure on yourself to pay for flying so you can focus on learning. keep up the great work 👨🏻‍✈️👌👍🏻

You just got a new sub. What a video! Looking forward to checking out your channel when I get home.

@StefanDrury

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subscribing, welcome to the channel 👍

I like the advice.Stef you have really inspired many and prepared them in advance.Many people may have not known about this.Keep up the good work Stef!!👌🏽💯

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated Bryson, I’m hoping this is useful to others trying to follow the aviation path. Thanks for watching.

@brysonwallace3012

5 жыл бұрын

@@StefanDrury Welcome

I wish this had been uploaded a year ago. Nonetheless, I've got my PPL and working towards the CPL. Great content Stef - If it was easy then everybody would be doing it👌🏽

Amazing Video! This teaches a lot! Thank you for all of your advice!

@StefanDrury

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped, thanks Matthew.

Excellent advice to those wanting to fly and a bit tight on the money side. :-)) As I found out it is anything but cheap!

Thank you for this video! I am struggling to pay for flight school and it’s hard to be patient, but this video is what I needed.

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Waiting can be the hardest thing, but a little extra time to work hard and save for when you're ready to start training can really help in the long term. It sucks though, feels like everyone else is doing it and you're not. But that's not the case, we all need to slow down sometimes. Good luck with your flying goals FlannelFlyer.

Thank you so much for tis video! I've wanted to become a commercial pilot all my life and I'm now I college in an aviation program (not a flying program). The one thing stopping me from actually completing my hours is money and I've looked at so many videos but all of them never really helped for the same reasons you mentioned in the beginning of the video! A bunch of my friends from college (who also want to become pilots) are getting the PPLs and it sucks because I'm falling behind and missing out on the fun! This video is the video that I've been looking for. No driving around the topic, new bullshit, just the facts!

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

That's awesome feedback Daniel, thank you. I spent a long time preparing and writing the content for this video, so it's great to hear it's really helping rather than getting across the same message you've heard before. Good luck with your flight training, and thanks again for the comment, stef

I'm always wanted to be a pilot and that's how I even knew this channel. Due, to financial shortages I had to do a degree in BioMed which is fully sponsored and then get a job save up for my flight school. In the beginning it was really really frustrating because I really wanted to be a pilot but it has been a year and it honestly doesn't feel that long. Anyways great advice Stefan!

Very interesting and valuable information discussed here. Safe fly everyone.

Thanks for this video Stef, I'm 18 and finishing high school this year. I have to wait for my class 1 medical to get processed which may be a long process because of my lung condition. I fly gliders and recreationally at the moment, but obviously want to get a cpl after school and I know funding it will be a challenge if I fund it privately without doing a degree, diploma with a vet loan. Great video thanks for the tips!

Great advice Stefan especially these days of high costs of training (compared to the 80's when I trained ) :)

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Paul

So thankful for this video just made all this seem much more achievable

Great advice Stefan. I did my training in the early 90's. I worked a full time job and 2 part time jobs to pay for it because there was no VET fee help or student loans for flying back then. Being a Signwriter by trade, I painted the school signage as a contra deal plus did some paid work for them even through it wasn't much, it all count towards a significant saving in the end. Also, the school encouraged me to pay tax on some of the paid work so I was able to claim my flying training as an expense which I was able to claim on come tax time! The school often cheaper rates for cash and for money to be paid up front into an account which I trusted them enough to do it by this time. In the end, I reckon I saved $13,000 dollars in training cost (Not the total. Private flying not covered in the tax side of things). Another benefit. The school got to see what my work ethic and commitment was like and at the end of my training, I started doing some work for them which lead to full time. So, Stefan. Next time you're flying over YBSS an you look down and see the writing on the school's roof top, think of me!

Great tips, glad I subscribe to an informative and interesting channel! Can’t wait to meet you in the future!

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Grant, glad you found that useful. Hope to catch you at a meetup someday.

I am about to start out now with ground school starting next week. I already had a monthly budget, and after deciding to go ahead and getting a PPL, I sat down and calculated a projected cost, including a savings buffer. Then I went through my budget and simply reduced items I felt I could redirect to flying. And not just the training, but flying hours after I am done. The relative peace of mind this plan gives me is priceless. I know I can do it, and I will have time to save up even more while ground schools is ongoing as weather and lack of daylight during Winter up here will mean there won't be much flying until spring.

Yes there are many ways to generate/find/earn etc money to fund your training. You just need to use your common sense as you have in this video Stef. I believe pay as you go is the way to go. Take your time and learn the art of flying as best you can. Thanks mate

Amazing video. Thank you mate. I hope to be able to buy you a beer in Melbourne one day.

Yes, aviation isn't going anywhere. I'm 55 and just started my pilot journey. I would have loved to have an aviation career but couldn't afford it and had other priorities when I was younger. I can afford it now and so I've started and who knows where it will go.

@cherry-kr9tj

3 жыл бұрын

How's it been so far?

@craigbroadbent7449

3 жыл бұрын

A little slow thanks to COVID. But progress is being made!

@cherry-kr9tj

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigbroadbent7449 I'm happy to hear that. I am 16 and becoming a pilot is my biggest dream, but cant really say my family takes me seriously because of how much money the training costs. Now I have realised, that I might not be able to start my training right after school, but with time and hard work i can get there one day

@Babvgurl3

3 жыл бұрын

@@cherry-kr9tj same , i’m 16 as well and we both got this! i hope we both achieve our goals. good luck to you darling

@cremebrulee2484

2 жыл бұрын

@@cherry-kr9tj I’m 15 and I want to do it too. My family is taking it a bit too seriously my mum keeps saying she will re mortgage the house for me but I can’t let my parents take such a risk for me

Great content and production

@iVince905

5 жыл бұрын

Huge fan of yours Niko!

Can’t like this one enough. Wonderful content.

@StefanDrury

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Mike, really hope this helps some aspiring (and current) pilots out there.

Just came back to watch this video again, 10:38 great foreshadowing Stef

thank you stef this really really helped me clear my mindset of "i need to get my cpl asap" MAybe i shoud just get a proper money generating skill and fund for my licence. Maybe doing general aviation is much more interesting compared to an airline pilot.

I’m currently going through my flight training. I’m 17 and have always wanted to fly; however, I do not plan on pursuing flight as a career. I have picked up two jobs and have been saving almost every penny. I have done my research and have started using an online flight school because it works best with my schedule. I plan on completing my written exam before I take any lessons in a plane. I have my mindset for a several year plan. I also plan on going to my local airport after I watched this video and asking if there any way to trade my services for flight hours :). I also invested in a flight simulator in hopes I can get a basic feel and an idea for the procedures. Hopefully I can learn as much as I can and reduce the cost of flight training as much as possible! Maybe this can help other pilots who hope to pursue this field and use my plan as a rough draft. Thank you for this video and wish me best of luck in my journey!

Very good video I am in the planning phase of getting my PPL.

Well Said stef! I pretty much did the exact same thing and still do. Touch wood my company has been doing well, i waited until it wasn’t going to add any financial stress to my self or the business. For all those, Time, Time,Time... Be patient, it will happen if you are determined. It’s like anything. Now, with 50+ staff at work i use, flying is now my downtime! (Once i completely Finnish learning which you never do,theirs always something to learn in aviation).

Ultimate helpful video. 🙌

You're awesome for this. Thanks.

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped, thanks Viraj

I couldn't agree more with this video !Another way you could save is possibly starting with RPC instead of RPL. RA Aus flight schools tend to be cheaper and they count towards the aeronautical knowledge.

Good, helpful informative video!

Great video and great tips!

Thanks for this video 👍🏼 Just finished A-Levels, starting my PPL now ,which, with all of my ratings, looks like it’ll cost around £14,000. All expensive but there are ways around it, just have to see what I can do.

@dafyddstarkey4721

3 жыл бұрын

How’s it going?

I absolutely agree with not putting a lump sum into a flying school. About 13 years ago I took out a loan to finance flying as well as a few other things. I already held a PPL and was looking at getting NVFR and CPL through a flying school in Perth who I had already started flying with. I opened a flying account with the school with a deposit of $16k and started working towards my goals. About 6 months after I did this I heard a rumour that the school was in financial troubles and drove down there to find out what was happening. I got there and found a note on the door for students to contact the owner of the club. At the time I still had about $10k in the account. Thankfully after several phone calls and emails I was able to retrieve what was left in my account and within a month the school had closed.

Thank you for sharing this.. these are great tips. I just subscribed.

@StefanDrury

3 жыл бұрын

Really glad they were helpful, thanks for subscribing, welcome to the community.

@mindlab780ab6

3 жыл бұрын

@@StefanDrury going to start a flight school here in Canada.

Brilliant video

Hi Stef...wished you had mentioned Recreational Aviation along with PPL and above etc. Its a whole lot less expensive than General Aviation with some great modern, full glass cockpits. ...both to learn and to hire and fly. Recreational aviation is the fastest growing segment of the industry. Pop up to Murray Bridge SA (YMBD) anytime and we can take you in some great aircraft. Might even make a video about it.

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

I did mention RPL as an option, in the section on defining your goals I listed RPL, PPL, CPL or ATPL. But potentially could have touched on RPL as an interim option before PPL for sure, that's definitely a smart approach if you're starting out. Thanks mate.

@D0539

5 жыл бұрын

@@StefanDrury I think he means RAAus, not just RPL.

@stewartmichie9798

5 жыл бұрын

Even if ATPL if your final goal, a path up through RAAus will save you a bucket load of cash, count 1:1 to RPL/PPL time and most importantly give a bit more varied experience.

@TheOzflyer

4 жыл бұрын

RPC time will save you heaps if PPL is the goal, it’s the way I did it, and I still fly LSA today. It’s a real shame that a lot of GA pilots look at RPC as “not real flying” only RPL is getting recognition as it’s a step up into 4 seat AC. Maybe one day we can all respect each other as aviators and not by the type of aircraft we fly.

@BigglesAviator

4 жыл бұрын

Yes that was the point I trying to make. RAAUS is a whole lot less expensive to learn and to fly but in the end we are all pilots who share our love of being airborne. Heaven really.

Good stuff Stef.

I would also suggest anyone intrested in aviation to get into Flightsims. XP11 or P3D in combination with IVAO and VATSIM are really poweful tools you can use to not only learn the basics of flying but also start practising radio work and procedures. Most communities there actually offer sort of a "virtual PPL" that will also help you with the theory. This really helped me on my PPL journey a lot so far. Keep in mind, the more you teach yourself the less you have to pay someone else to teach it to you.

@TheRutlandPilot

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, I have VATSIM..very useful tool but be careful not to pick up bad habits. A lot of guys (90%) using inaccurate phraseology and too many complimentaries on the radios. Not professional. Keep it short and to the point.

@Dudeisthere

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRutlandPilot True, its important to make sure you pick tutorials/mentors that actually teach it to you the right way. Although its also worth mentioning that there definetly alot of sloppy radio work in real life too.

Great advice !

Awesome informative video mate

Hey Stef nice video as always and some solid advice. That said, you’re an Aussie/Pom, why the yank terms? It’s Navex and Flight Test!

Patience is very much needed in Aviation.

What a great video Stef, I do know people who have taken astronomical loans to pay for that lump sum option with flight schools. Also a lot of students these days are using the government loans or HECS to pay for training. When I did my licence I worked and put a side money for my training. My parents bought my first 5 lessons and dad said If your passionate about this you need to do it yourself.

Really good video stef

@StefanDrury

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Tim 👍

I believe the phrase Stef is "Welcome to aviation, you are now broke" hahaha. Seriously though good video! And for the parents out there, get your kids to learn to fly... that way they'll have no money for drugs... hahaha :D

Hi mate another grate video! Just woundering your thoughts on fee help loans to finish my cpl? Have a fantastic day!

Working a lot of overtime at my current job and saving it up for my PPL training. Won’t start until I have the whole sum because I don’t want to take breaks in between my training. Half ways there :)

Great video 👍

Hi Stefan, You didn't mention it but there are a few flight schools around now that the government will subsidize, and even places you can do your entire training on a HECS loan.

Outstanding video.

Never clicked on a video so fast 😃

I live in Germany. Here we have an alternate route: Flying clubs. They are usually non-profit organizations from aviators for aviators. Many of those clubs run there own air port and have a fleet of planes for rent. Training is done from club member to club member. You can get every thing (training / lessons, plane rent, landing fees, ...) for a reduced price as a club member. But you have to work for the club. Maintenance of the runway, buildings, hangar, the planes, ... You have to put work and hours on the ground into it to get into the air for cheap. Also a sail plane is a good way into aviation and usually much cheaper then starting out on a motorized plane and a full PPL. Depending on your local legislation there may be an option for a microlite / ultralight license. Usually such a license is restricted, e.g. day only VFR and max. two seat plane, but much cheaper and probably all you need to satisfy your aviation needs. E.g. in the USA you don't need any license at all for a single seat sub 115 kg air craft.

@Juhujalp

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing to add to this. Currently learning to fly in Germany. Really enjoy the flying community here.

@bennithomas8414

5 жыл бұрын

I'm Benni from India. I am looking for a job in a flying club any where in the world. In return I want to get flying hours for my CPL. Can you please help me in this matter ?

VERY refreshing to have logic, facts, and common sense reasoning address the obvious costs of gaining your wings. 😎👍