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@Pentaclown84

10 ай бұрын

I can buy this one for 50 bucks, good idea? will it sound good with only that and the pedal or do i need something extra?

@PatPosse

10 ай бұрын

@@Pentaclown84 At $50 it's definitely worth a shot!

@Pentaclown84

10 ай бұрын

@@PatPosse nice ill do that then

@PatPosse

10 ай бұрын

@@Pentaclown84 Let me know how turns out for ya!

@t871

Ай бұрын

Spend the dough and get the waza. It has a modern switch so its like 2 pedals in one.

I liked the sound of it not plugged into the effects loop. I like a lot of things that other people don't like. I've been okay with that for 50 years.. Great playing man!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes it works fine on the input. The video is more aimed at people who don't like the MT2 to the input sound. This will give the amp a second chance at killer tone!

@mikethebloodthirsty

Жыл бұрын

Yeh, I like stuff just plugged into the amp. Everyone says use the loop, it never sounds better to me, different, but not better. Tried it on a few amps... Plus your messing about with two extra leads.

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@mikethebloodthirsty That's true! I also like a lot of tones into the input. This video is aimed at people who don't like the sound they get from the Metal Zone straight into the input... it's like saying "hey!, before you completely give up on this pedal, try this!"

@kevinerickson84

8 ай бұрын

you and me both. Been happy with it for 20 plus years and even happier with the recent waza. I think it all comes down to dialing it in right. People aren't patient.

@d-freh1009

4 ай бұрын

Same. I have the MT-2W and it sounded bad plugged into the effects loop of my Marshall DSL 100H.

This pedal through the front of a decent amp's clean channel using a guitar with a ceramic humbucker in the bridge position gives a sick old school death metal sound like Shaune Kelley's guitar tone in Ripping Corpse. Love this pedal and will use it til the day I die.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Most classic death metal bands used it as a pre amp or pushing the input of an amp. Like I said, The pedal itself doesn’t suck. You just gotta stay away from cheap/bad amps’ input channels 🤣

No matter what anyone says, i actually like the metalzone. Of course it doesn't sound as good as some other pedals, but if you just play around with it a bit and you can get some pretty badass sounds.

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

That's true! Specially if you use it right and go into the FX loop! I hadn't played it in forever and was actually ok with it. But if I had to choose the Power Stack is probably my favorite by them!

It may sound like a beehive, but I can’t imagine Legion or Butchered at Birth without it!

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but they are using it RIGHT! not into the input like a n00b! lol

Excellent video. My favorite part was you telling some new or younger metal heads to go for it regardless. Anxiously waiting for the next video.

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I 100% meant it! We need the new wave of metal heads to focus more on playing and less on gear and what people think about it...!!!

This review really helped me understand the difference! Thanks so much!🤘

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!! This pedal gets way more hate than it deserves to be honest... Maybe this can help clear this out... it won't make a HUGE difference but hey!, gotta try right?

I use it through the input along with 2 overdrive pedals and a compression sustainer pedal turned down to about 35% so I can get a nice saturated sound without it getting too loose and messy

@PatPosse

11 ай бұрын

Nice!!

@cloudchaser-wd5wp

2 ай бұрын

what kinda noise gate u use

For those who are wondering… or concerned When using into the loop do NOT complete the loop with the pedal. Guitar into Metal Zone input, Metal Zone output into amps effects return only..

one question: if I buy 'Boss DS1' pedal and put it through the clean channel in my amp then would I face the same problem like this one? I have blackstar id core 20 amp which doesn't have any effects loop,,,

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Yes. It would still be the input of the amp… either way; this video is for people who tried it on the input and didn’t like it. A lot of people do like it on the front end of the amp. You might be able to try it out at your local music store… maybe give that a shot and take it for a spin before purchasing it 💪🏻

I've noticed that distortion pedals in general don't like clean tones that are too bright and sparkling. Experimenting with pedals such as the DS-1, boss power driver (a hidden gem of a pedal) and guyatone zoom box (related to the mxr distortion +) and a roger mayer voodoo tt (a transistor based distortion/fuzz), you want to set the mids pretty high and treble pretty low. If you need brightness use an eq pedal in the fx loop. It makes a lot of sense that people who use amps with fender style clean channels or fender style amp modellers will perceive distortion pedals as harsh sounding as those amps scoop out the midrange and add a lot of treble by design.

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah! Also the fact that a lot of times the pedal works way better if plugged into the Fx loop. I always try to tell people that the main distortion and tone should come from the amp but they want it to come from the pedal (and then they expect the pedal to sound as good [or as bad 🤣😉] out of every amp)

Hey great video! and great way of playing of course. I have a Fender champion 100 amp, is it possible to connect MT-2 that way? I mean NOT directly to the input, the amp has a PRE OUT and a PWR IN, if so, how to do it? Thanks in advance

@PatPosse

5 ай бұрын

Sure, You should be able to go out of the PRE OUT to the pedal and back in to POWER IN...

So, I have a blackstar ID Core 100….when I plug the pedal into the effects loop, it sounds super muffled and shity. Then I tried to just plug it into return and it didn’t make any sound at all! My line in is the size of a headphone jack so I can’t use that. Any tips? The only way I can possibly use it from what I know is through the input on the top.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there! Those amps are always weird because of all the pre loaded built in effects and stuff. The right way is through the effects loop as you did in the beginning, there might be a setting or something that makes it sound muffled, maybe your battery is dead or something… hard to help over a message but that should work. If anything try checking out the manual or I’m sure there’s some Blackstar ID specific video online that shows you how to connect pedals to it… good luck Man!

Hi Pat, nice playing. I just discovered your video. I have metal zone since 1994. Love the pedal ever since. It's a new finding for me about how to get a better sound for the mt2. I have a question. How does it work or sound when the mt2 combines with other pedals such as delay, chorus, wah and etcetera. I mean, plug it in the FX return. Have you tried it?

@PatPosse

9 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard! I would experiment with different ways but “theoretically “ you would go from the send of the FX loop to the MT2 first, then your effects and back to the return of the loop. Hope to help!

Man great demo. Tour picking hand efficiency is off the charts! Thanks for posting. BTW I like the pedal into the amp better. 😂

@PatPosse

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!! That’s totally valid ! It really depends on what kind of tone you are after… into the input can be more harsh and sometimes that’s exactly what we need! lol Thanks for watching and commenting!

Cool vid bro. Just quick tips u dont need fx loop to run this pedal as preamp u can just plug this to line in on ur amp so you just skip eq section on ur amp and straight to ur power amp, i use this trick for my multi effect pedal too.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Line in works too! That is correct! As long as it goes straight to the power amp we are golden! Thanks for that note !

@gentelmanjunkie542

Жыл бұрын

Line In as in the Aux Input? Soni could get a 1/8 adapter and plug it in there if it's the Aux?

@asura6400

9 ай бұрын

can you specify on how to do it without an fx loop cuz my amp does’nt have one

Great review!!

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thank man!! I am glad you enjoyed it!

i have a question. My metal zone only sounds good when the guitar is plugged into the pedal and the pedal goes into the return of my amp. If I run it from send then return with my guitar plugged into the front of the amp it sounds horrible..... This is stopping me from having the pedal on my pedal board seeing how everything else runs through the front of the amp, I have no way to use the distortion pedal unless I use it by itself with it only running from guitar, to pedal, to return.

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

That is very interesting... What's going out of the Send on your amp's loop?

@GlorifyGodInEverything

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Nothing. My normal setup is delay runs through send and return (effects), my guitar is plugged into the first pedal in my chain, last pedal plugs into the front of my amp. I figured since the pedal acts as a preamp I could run it through my effects along side my delay, but it only sounds good with it going from guitar, to pedal, then return section with nothing else plugged anywhere else in the amp. I read somewhere that a pedal going into the return section of amp is actually how a pre amp pedal is supposed to be used, but that makes no sense to me because you wouldn't be able to run anything else, and there is no way anyone is running a whole chain of pedals directly into the just the return section of the effects, they will sound like crap haha.

Dope man love the pedal I use it every time I play metal and I can get almost any sound I want with this pedal 🤘

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

Ive had 3 of those in the past 20 yrs. I currently have the waza and it is much quieter. I never like it in the fx loop. The tone is tighter that way for sure but you miss the front end push that gives that 90s death metal feel. Ive bought several other pedals but always go back to the MT2. Just go get one!

@PatPosse

9 ай бұрын

Hell yeah! It’s a must have for sure!

@Shawnpo76

Ай бұрын

I'm speaking to you from the future I bought a hell melter and I'm returning it to go pick up one of these for that pure blackest of black 90's metal sound brother

Good demo. Thanks Pat!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help Tim! Thanks for watching and commenting! 😁🤘🏻

Hey man,just found you and subscribed......good vid man...keep it heavy!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother!

I use the MT2 along with my boss equalizer. I use my equalizer like a boost with some EQ changes that give it a sick thrash sounding tone

@PatPosse

2 ай бұрын

Hell yeah!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

The Metal Zone + Heavy Metal pedals together sound pretty awesome. Worth a shot if you're looking for an affordable metal sound.

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Wow nice! would have never tried that... do you mean the Boss HM-2?

@PotatoeJoe69

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Yes indeed. If you can find one anyway, they haven't made them for decades and they go for $200ish. Also should run them thru an FX loop

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha yes, I'm familiar with them. I've actually come across a few and owned 2. Never been a fan but sometimes you just need that HM-2 Death Metal sound! Now I'm kinda kicking myself for selling them so cheap back then but I've always flipped them for profit!

I saw olas video talking about that, I don’t have one because I really just started getting a lot of pedals, but when and if I do, that’s definitely where I’ll put it!

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!! Ola doing the right thing there... he rules. I’m glad he is getting through and telling a lot more people and covering more ground with this. It just sounds like dog shit when it goes into the input lol

@nicolasparianos1499

3 жыл бұрын

100% dude, but I think I’ll stick with the distortion I already use!

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I don’t blame you! But it’s not as bad as they make it out to be!

@nicolasparianos1499

3 жыл бұрын

No, not at all

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicolasparianos1499 Poor pedal lol

Is there a way to get rid of the constant feedback without a noisegate pedal? I'm currently not in the budget for one and would want to play loud with my metak zone and not have to deal with the noise.

@PatPosse

2 ай бұрын

It might be because of your pickups or cables... other than that, no... you'll need one of them...

@Euronymousxxx

2 ай бұрын

@@PatPosse damn guess I'll have to save up :(

@PatPosse

Ай бұрын

Sure sounds that way.. 😅

My amp is old school, it doesn't have an effect loop. But it has a GAIN channel and the CLEAN one. I try it on the GAIN channel but then the amp was making funny low freq noises for two weeks. I play through my pc most of the time with BIAS FX on 2x100w. But I would love to try it the right way.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Old School amps have FX loops too... Best you can do is plug it into the input and lower the level knob on it so it doesn't push the preamp as hard. Just get it to distort. OR use no distortion on the pedal and just use it as a TS9 of sorts and push the preamp with the level all the way up and the amp's regular distortion. Hope it helps!

@tilenjurca7044

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse ok, tnx

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

@@tilenjurca7044 No prob! Best of luck!

@tilenjurca7044

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Or throw that amp out the window😉

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

@@tilenjurca7044 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Congratulations!!! Distrokid ! Awesome

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

😁😁 thanks!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

The clean tone you started with when the pedal was in the effects loop was much different. Warmer, that sounded like the only difference.

@nicholaslewis8938

4 ай бұрын

That's simply because he was using the bridge pickup on the first clean run and the bridge pickup on the second clean run. Both uses of the pedal were in bridge position.

@heyjarrod

4 ай бұрын

@@nicholaslewis8938 ?

Interesting video Pat!😁

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!!

Extra crunchiness...I love it!! 🤘🤘

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah!! Way better!!

Awesome video, but i also have to say i'm proud to be a member ;)

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

You rule my dude and I sure appreciate each and everyone of you!

Now into the recording interface with ML Sound Labs Mikko providing cab simulation. Awesome!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

The mikko plug in rules!! It’s just not compatible with my old Mac but as soon as I get a new thunderbolt interface it’ll be ON!!! The 3D cab sim here is really good too!

@MeTuLHeD

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse That's ok. Just pull up any IR loader you can and load up a favorite IR. The Ownhammer stuff in particular is killer. I have some I'd be happy to share. :-) You really should hear this into a killer IR. Sounds amazing.

@MeTuLHeD

2 жыл бұрын

P.S. The STL Tones Libra is pretty amazing too. Not free. But it is Mac compatible.

@MeTuLHeD

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Cool! Then crank up that Metal Zone and give it a go! I think you'll love it.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

I guess you haven’t seen the follow up video to this but I traded the metal zone for a bunch of CDs! Cool twist though; the guy i traded with mods then and he’ll give it back to me to do a review/ video for you guys! That’ll be fun! 💪🏻💪🏻

I've used mine into front end and made it sound monstrous.

@PatPosse

2 сағат бұрын

Yup! That can definitely happen!! This video is for people who hate the way it sounds on the front end… just giving them another option! If you like how it sounds on your input then this video is definitely not for you.

That was awesome. Great job 💪💪🤘

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!! And thanks for your continued support my brother!!

The sound of this pedal in front of the amp reminds me of the time when I was using an amp sim on my computer but forgot to turn on the cabinet simulation lol

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHA YES!!!! I know EXACTLY what you mean!

Nice vid man 🤘🤘 that is some badass pedal and I wish I could try it and it produces some powerful tones overall I think it’s a decent pedal

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! It's cool if you use it right! It's a misunderstood pedal

I used my metal zone after a 7 band eq into my amp for mamy years and loved. There were other players who tried to cop my sound over the years. I was flattered. 2 years ago I bought an MXR full bore metal distortion pedal and no longer needed the eq and it oit performs the metal zone. I had many years of great service from my metal zone

@PatPosse

3 ай бұрын

Metalzone rules! It’s just misunderstood at times

Nice vid! I've had a metal zone since 2004. Using it mostly in the front of a peavey valve king, I never had a problem dialing a rad tone from it. It worked great for my band. I've never used it as a preamp, so now it's time to dust off that pedal and re introduce myself to it :) Later!

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Nice!! Let me know how that works out for ya. MTs work great on some amps! Thanks for watching and commenting!

@HeBleedsBlack

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse cool!

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@HeBleedsBlack 🤘🤘

Great pedal bro!! I love all those sounds!! 💯💪🏻🤘🏻

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud!! I am glad you do!

so you didnt say how you connected the cables for the fx loop,, plug the guitar into the amp input and the pedal into and out of the loop? or?...

@PatPosse

13 күн бұрын

I think I did but it might have been on the previous video to this which was on the DS1. Just in case… Guitar-> Amp’s input. FX Loop Send into Pedal’s Input, Pedal out -> Fx Loop’s Return and you are good to go 🤘🏻

Hey kickass playing bro. To which amp did you connect it to. I have a mesa mini rec and a line 6 dt 1X12 cab and I am planning to buy this soon. Will I get the tight distortion like pantera in the lower wattages and in the lowest bedroom volumes cos I play in the lowest volumes in my bedroom. Sorry neighbors and parents are sensitive so. 😵😜 so can I dial in some pantera, Metallica and cannibal corpse kinda chug distortion’s ? Do reply. Btw you’re an amazing player man \M/ cheers 👋

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Thank you brother for your kind comments! It’s been over a year, I don’t recall what it was plugged into at the time but it might have been straight into a small combo amp I had at the time. Make sure you plug it into the fx loop to get tighter and fatter lows, CC plugs it into the front of the amp… play around and see what works best for you and your amp situation! Thanks for watching and commenting

@srinivaskumar615

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse yes bro. Will do it and update you soon. Wow meanwhile can you do a review of mesa mini with this pedal soon by showing difference of all channels and volumes and connecting techniques ? I’ll always be waiting to watch that man. 😍😍😍 do let me know

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@srinivaskumar615 That'd be great except I don't own a Mesa Mini and can't afford to buy one lol! It'd be awesome to have though

@srinivaskumar615

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse oh 😬 hey it’s ok. you have dual rectifier? That was behind you in this video ?

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

That’s a Triple Rec on that video 😱

I’m not going to lie, I actually preferred it through the front of the amp. Reminds me of bolt thrower’s IVth crusade tone if you scooped it out a little bit. I’ve always joked about the metal zone, but I think your video convinced me to buy one. lol

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha nice! If you do, check out the affiliate link in the comment section! 🤘🏻

@exin7778

Жыл бұрын

Been using mine for like 20+ years, also check out the Keely Mod edition.

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@exin7778 Nice! Built like a tank! I should definitely check that out!

wooow changed my point of view, changed my opinion on music, changed my life thanks a lot!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣. Glad to help I guess… 😋

Open it up. Get some small wire cutters. Cut off c35, c25, and c17. I love how mine sounds after I cut off those specific pieces. No soldering needed. Just cut em off, or desolder them if you want to be able to go back to original. I would never want to.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a great tip to check out but I’ve sold this pedal since 😅. But maybe someone here will check it out! Thanks for sharing!

Awesome your channel is one of the best!!!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Dude love the support! Thanks!

@Alex_Awaken1997

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse you're very welcome bro!!!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

💪🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

I hated it when it came out, but, if you run it right (amp, guitar, player) it easily does classic Judas Priest. It takes the place of a eq pedal, distortion, treble boost....does that by itself. The concentric pots are very tricky to adjust and super sensative. With some reverb and delay it can NAIL the Judas Priest tone on 'Unleashed in the East' 🤘

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Them pots are a PAIN to dial in, for sure!!

I am on Distrokid, but how the hell do I get my album promoted?

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

DistroKid distributes the album and uploads it to all the platforms, they don't promote it per se... you gotta do the promotion yourself...

@isolatedmortalityband5718

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Ok... how?

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@isolatedmortalityband5718 post it everywhere you can, show it to people, Facebook groups, etc...

I don't know what's with the FX Loop stuff, sounds perfectly fine in the front end to me.

@dq7860

2 жыл бұрын

For context I have a spare practice amp, a Fender 15 watt and I throw this into the front end and it sounds pretty brutal, of course my Marshall Valvestate 8100 definitely does sounds better but this can nail some 90s DM and BM stuff, the trick is in setting the mids to max and messing with the mid freq until it sounds good, then pulling some of the mids back (but not below 12 'o' clock).

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

This video is aimed at people who don’t like the sound they are getting and want to try something else… if you found your tone straight into the input then you don’t need this “hack”! Most 90’s bands used the Metalzone straight in set up. 💪🏻. Thanks for watching and commenting !

@dq7860

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse It's cool, just giving my 2 cents, and for the other hand I have actually tried the FX Loop trick before and it sounded pretty good! Just I've never found that much of a difference necessary enough to do it.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

@@dq7860 of course! Input and feedback is always appreciated ! The FX loop thing basically bypasses your input and pushes the output of your amp but you will still have the main character of your amp / speaker combo sound 😉

To make that sound, how about amp setting? Like volume and etc

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

It really depends on the amp but if you are going through the fx loop it shouldn’t make much difference in sound.

I had a long time ago one . Now I have a Revv G3. Really good by the way. Nice video. Just keep going. Slaaaaaaaayyyyyyeeeeeeerrrrrr.

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Nice. Thanks man and yes! F*ckin Slayer!!!!!!!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

Great video man. But you can ABSOLUTELY make it sound good in the input, you don't necessarily need to put it in the effects loop (Even though it sounds better in the loop) you can EQ it to sound good in the input, you just need a good amp to use it with.

@PatPosse

5 ай бұрын

Thats 100% true. This video is for people who don’t like this pedal and are looking for a way to make it sound great. If it already sounds good then this is irrelevant. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! 😁🤘🏻

Nice Metallica Tone c an you share your settings ı cant seem to figure out the exact settings because of the angle of the pedal

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Damn bro, sorry... this video is a couple years old and I have sold the MT2 Since (I actually traded it for a bunch of CDs hahaha) I don't know what the setting were, I was playing by ear... Wish I could be of greater help... Thanks for watching and commenting!

@darKBlue1987

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse good luck bro

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@darKBlue1987 Same to you my dude!

I think it has too much highs ! The EQs will help a lot !! Thanks for the review !!

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Glad to be of service!

Thank you

@PatPosse

8 ай бұрын

Hope it helps!! 🤘🏻

That’s so awesome!🤟

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!’

Great pedal, i used it for 5 years 🔥

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

It definitely has its fandom!! No wonder it’s the second most sold pedal by Boss!!

Excellent

@PatPosse

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much ! I feel like I should update this video now that I’ve been doing this for longer and have better equipment and editing knowledge but people seem to enjoy it and find it useful… why wreck it; right?

I suck at guitar but I love to make noise and I have been through several pedals and I love the Metal Zone. Need a better amp and some active pickups though.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Better amp is always good! Active pickups are not necessary, I get that some people love them, I love the response and dynamics of a passive pickup… try to get an amp with an fx loop, it’ll give you way more options 🤘🏻. Thanks for watching and commenting !

@spiritofthetallhills2037

Жыл бұрын

Active pickups suck get som passive high output duncans or dimarzios and youre set

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@spiritofthetallhills2037 like a man!

had an mt-2 since the 90s...my fave dist. pedal

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Built to last! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

You give me waynes world/ ben stiller in tenacious d vibes. Subbed

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha I’ll take that as a compliment! Old school metal dude here 😁😁

Great pedal,Awesome ❤

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!!’ Glad you enjoyed it!!

The best review ever 🤘🏻

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Roy!! Hope you enjoy it! I forget, Do you own that pedal?

thank i for this. i got this pedal for my brother for christmas. after seeing all of the bad review vids on it i started to regret my decision. so thanks for the reassurance😭

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Nah he’ll love it! Just tell him to try it both ways and to choose whichever he likes better, input or fx loop! I wish I got it as a Christmas present 😁!!

@chloe-222

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse great thanks! yeah i wanted to rly treat him this yr :)

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@chloe-222 Nailed it! Let me know how it goes!!

@chloe-222

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Yeah for sure!

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@chloe-222 awesome! Merry Christmas!

When people tell me that pedal is worthless, I tell them they should email Cannibal Corpse and let them know. Should also email Bloodbath and about a million other bands who use the pedal and are successful

@PatPosse

6 ай бұрын

Totally! It’s a tank and it sounds great… sometimes people just don’t get it.

@DrMurdercock

6 ай бұрын

I think its cause we were all 16 when we first tried it, we dimed out every knob, plugged it into our shitty crate combo 1x12 (also dimed) and thats most of our memories of it lol Come back to the pedal later when you have a nice rig, more experience and you can get some fat nasty tones out of her@@PatPosse

@PatPosse

6 ай бұрын

100%! you are right on the money!!

What a great pedal man U did good man

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

💀awesome video once again dude 😈😈

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you man!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

I reeeaaaaly enjoyed the right usage of that pedal 👍👌🤘🤘🤘 wrong usage makes it sound more shreded and noisy...but METAL OOOOON 🔥🔥🔥

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

That’s right! When it goes into the input it sounds like crap!!!

What about hooking up next to a noise suppressor pedal

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely. That would help a lot since this bad boy is noisy AF 😉

@thatcherhunter1695

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse hell yeah

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatcherhunter1695 💪🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

I can get Chugga tones with a three watt amp. Using that pedal. I have the original one too.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! What 3 watt amp do you have?

if you understand meaning ( preamp / distortion ) and how to use thoes in any situation than its realy great pedal . Cannibal corpse use this into mesa boge triplerec as a boost .

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah they do ! I’ve done it as well on my triple Rec and it sounds sick!

@yowild9629

Жыл бұрын

how gainstages are combing ideas look up schematic on it LoL

Who knew that the metal zone actually had the potential to sound good?... for the whole time I’ve been a guitarist I’ve always heard about how bad it sounds. Well done Pat!

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!! That's why I made that instagram Poll... I got a lot of people saying it sounded like crap and that they hated it but I knew they didn't know about this, so there you go! Doing my part for the metal community!!

@patmckeownmusic6478

3 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse and the metal community thanks you!

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

@@patmckeownmusic6478 That's awesome! every month I see my subscribers count go up and every month I get a new Member to the channel. I see the love, it just needs to grow a bit bigger for me to start doing some of the things i want to do with it... baby steps!

Another way to use this would be the way cannibal corpse and crowbar use it. Level at max, gain at zero and use the eq section into a distorted amp.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! That’s basically the TS9 pushing the preamp trick but with two pots for EQing!

@mjgibbs131788

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Is this still considering you're running it through the loop? Any OD I've used I ran through the front, but I'm using a Peavey Triple X now which is already high gain if you want it. Is it a good idea to run the Metal Zone through the loop like @DeathMetal09 said and then the OD through the front and use that as a boost for leads?

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@mjgibbs131788 im sorry I just saw this comment, for some reason KZread doesn’t notify when people reply to comments made by someone else… you can definitely do that and it would work out nicely. Just gotta dial it in just right… with the amount of gain that amp has I would just try to round up the tone so it’s not as harsh with a ts9 or a compressor and add mids and a bit of volume (EQ pedal does both) on the fx loop to cut through the mix and get that nice bump for soloing 😉. Hope to have helped!

@mjgibbs131788

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse No worries brotha. I appreciate the response! Most people would’ve dismissed since it was that long ago. I’ve since figured out how to implement my pedals with the amp. But the real issue was actually my speakers. Since upgrading, that rounding out I was looking for when playing live was much more attainable.

Another guy saying this pedal was used wrongly. It was not. When this pedal came out the intention was to plug it in front of the amp.

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

True! But if you don’t like the sound that is coming out of the amp, then there’s a second way to try out before chucking it out the window… that’s the point of this video.

What’s the song at 4:55?

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

That was a spin on War Ensemble by Slayer!

@Ben-bc9jg

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse thank you bro, gonna start learning that song rn !

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@Ben-bc9jg Awesome!! Glad to help!

Did you mean into the return not the loop?

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Where or when exactly do you mean?

The amp is set too bright to use a distortion pedal. That said it can still be done if you EQ with your ears and not your eyes.

@PatPosse

6 ай бұрын

Amp was set flat…

Lol that pedal was always meant for one thing and one thing only. All dials maxed out!

@PatPosse

11 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

The Metal Zone is the best disto pedal I've ever had, and I've had many over my 3 decades plus of playing. I just plug it into the clean channel, and go. If it's too edgy, I turn back the treble knob on the pedal. Too easy!

@PatPosse

4 ай бұрын

Totally ! And you can also back out of the gain and make it more controlled 🤣. People forget that that knob can also move counterclockwise 😉

It sounds like a beginner amp with the treble and mid all the way up, but with no bass

@PatPosse

4 ай бұрын

Yup. The ideal platform for this pedal 🤣🤣

why is your hair so perfect

@PatPosse

11 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😁😁

Sean Beasley playing a metal zone. Nice!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Sean is awesome!

90% of the job is just that the player has to invest in an amp that is equipped with an FX loop. The other 10% is just dialling a good enough sound out of it. I've certainly had fun with it for the longest time. 👍

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

And 100% of it is Liking, commenting and subscribing to my channel!! Hahaha I couldn't help it! That's true, the FX loop is KEY! After that is smooth sailing....! Thanks for watching and commenting!

@owenmoody7125

3 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse I mean, you put out a good video like this one, and it's the least you deserve. Cheers dude. 🤘

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

@@owenmoody7125 haha thank you my brother!! Every comment and like helps the algorithm. It’s still a very small channel so it’s hard to make a dent on it but I try every time lol

I'm still using my metal zone. It's a great pedal. I don't understand the hate it receives

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Built like a damn tank bro! That'll get you that CC tone for sure!

Super sympa.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother !!

Good Old Boss Pedals 👍🤘💪🔥😎

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Built to last!!

@christopherross2170

3 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Yess🔥🤘💪

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherross2170 🤘🏻🤘🏻

If you think it sucks then turn the valve amp down so it’s cleaner. Also if you think it’s suppose to go in the fx loop, then get another distortion pedal, and put that in front of the metal zone pedal while in the fx loop, then see if you like it. Haha.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Both are good ways to use it!

@RockG.o.d

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse I wasn't saying it wasn't, but these pedals have a bad rep with some amps. its probably because like others, when I first got mine, I was a child, and thought everything should be cranked up. didn't really understand the process of getting great tones. It came with years of experience. When I first used the original pedal, it was into a 15 watt fender amp which came with a squire strat and I thought it was okay. that amp and guitar got stolen, (thank god) and as a replacement, my nan got me a vester maniac which I still own today. Also got me a vox ac15 which sadly got stolen later in life. When I plugged the pedal into the vox ac15, the pedal sounded really crap. I didn't like the tones I were getting and so sold the pedal and got this boss mulifx instead. move on 3 decades, and I own the vox ac30 and also the metal zone waza, and I like putting it in front of the amp. In some amps It will sound good, in others, it depends, especially with valve amps. The vox on a clean sound with no distortion, running clean, the pedal sounds amazing, can also get some decent tones with little valve distortion and some pedal distortion. on the boss katana power amp only mode, the metal zone sounds metal as hell, and its very easy to get a great tone from it. we as artists should always try break the rules.

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@RockG.o.d ALWAYS! Well put!! Ps. Vox amps RULE!

“Does it sound good?” hell yesss lol. In my opinion anyway lol

@PatPosse

6 ай бұрын

Haha and it’s totally valid!!

Haha it did sound like angry bees 😂. Thankfully I’ve never owned one and never will lol (side note, my boss katana has one built in so I might try it out lmao)

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha it’s not too bad. Just gotta plug it into the right place!

You didn’t spend any time dialing it in 😂. You can get…and Justice for All tones with this pedal no problem. 🤘

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

I’ve spent years dialing it in. You missed the point of the video 😅

I had one ages ago. Just got one for 40$ so fuck it. Playing some good old school metal.

@PatPosse

5 ай бұрын

Hell yeah, That’s a great deal!!

Dude you have it dialed in wrong. That’s why it sounds that way. I’ve been using the metal zone for 23 years straight into the clean channel with no problem getting great sound

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Hi there. The video is aimed at what most beginners do and the fact that most people never even try going in the fx loop… we can all sit there and spend hours dialing it in until it sounds good but that was not the point of this video at all. It’s about the fact that it’ll sound better faster through the fx loop. If you dialed it down and the pedal sounds great for you, chances are you are not watching this video 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣. This is a last resort video for people who have tried everything and still think it sucks...

@bradleybnelson391

Жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse yes indeed I see what you are saying and I didn’t mean to come across negatively toward you I was speaking to the people who never actually used the metal zone and just jumped on the ban wagon

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@bradleybnelson391 no problem my dude! No harm, no foul 😉. Thanks for watching and commenting!

Good information. One feedback- kindly avoid F-bombs. Makes video inappropriate to play on TV with kids around.

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

That’s true. My apologies, it’s just the way we talk amongst friends and coworkers, I don’t even notice it. I’ll try to be more conscious about it… 😅

Good luck trying to hear yourself in a band or mix with that scooped setting

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s not going to happen. I’m all about the mids!

They've done a lot better job with the Waza version, and I love it! 🤘

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

I’m yet to try one out but I did hear great things about it!! 😁😁

@shreddersteve2663

Жыл бұрын

Yep it's awesome man, I'd certainly recommend it! 😉

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Played one at my buddy’s place. Seemed different for sure! 🤘🏻

@shreddersteve2663

Жыл бұрын

Cool! One of the big things I love about the waza edition is that it doesn't require that fx loop trick, and can just run it straight to the clean channel, and it'll right away sound awesome! \m/

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

@@shreddersteve2663 I'm yet to sit down with a waza version of this guy but i've heard nothing but great things about it!

The pedal sounds good but I'm not fan of it haha but very good video 😂

@PatPosse

3 жыл бұрын

oh, I understand 100% I'm not a fan of it either might have to trade it for some other pedal to review for the channel ! BUT at least I had the chance to help out someone who's been using it wrong forever!

Young, Poor, and CRAZY 🤪🤪🤪

@PatPosse

Ай бұрын

Haha! Do you know what is that from?

I ran this through a Marshall hdfx 100 full distortion oh both....it was terrible

@PatPosse

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha yup!

Works best as a boost.

@PatPosse

11 ай бұрын

Totally!

Seriously gave me a headache the way this video has been edited, just roughly chopped so that the guy talking jumps from one place to another in the blink of an eye. Sorry, I'm not hating on you Pat, I just find that kind of editing a tough watch. I stuck it out til the end though and I appreciate your showcasing of the pedal....good job man!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Adam, sorry about that! I completely understand what you mean, definitely not my best work. I had never edited a video before I started this channel less than two years ago and I think I've gotten a lot better at it since editing this particular video a year ago. I was editing on my 2009 iMac that couldn't really handle the task and I was focussing on pumping out content. I would love to re visit this pedal in the future at the new place with newer and better equipment down the line hoping the channel grows. Thanks for the feedback. If possible, please check out a newer video and let me know if you think this issue has gotten better. Cheers!

@adambishop5739

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Hi Pat, forgive me for being so bold as to advise you about the video, your response was very mature and it made me feel a little bad about how I may have come across. I'm sorry, I probably could have worded things better but you seemed to understand that I wasn't coming from a bad place, just letting you know my experience. Anyway, Good work my friend, I will have a look for that other video you mentioned but if you want to guarantee that I see it, would you mind replying with a link? Cheers Pal!

@PatPosse

2 жыл бұрын

@@adambishop5739 Hey man, no worries! I do get what you mean and I always favor content over tone when it comes to criticism. Also, the way I see it, I can lash out or get pissed and miss the point completely or actually take my time to analyze it and use it to my advantage. BTW I mean this in general, though your comment was blunt, I found it in no way disrespectful. You even went out of your way to say you weren't hating on me. I appreciated that... And I actually agree. This and the DS-1 Boss Pedal video are my most popular videos and I think my channel would have grown more had there been better edited. Now I upload 1-2 videos a week as supposed to the mandatory 3 a week I was uploading then. It gives me more time to prep them and edit them. Here's a link of a newer one, I've just moved away from the city to save money and really pursue the KZread thing so things are still not optimal (layout, lighting, etc) but at least you can see I put more time into editing. Check it out kzread.info/dash/bejne/d66pyrConqywYbg.html

@adambishop5739

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse Hi Pat, as I said before, thats a very mature approach and speaks volumes for your integrity. I'm gonna subscribe to your channel buddy and I'm gonna check out that DS-1 review. Great pedal that is, Nirvana in a box right?...lol.. : ) I understand that trying to upload quality videos without the resources to do it is a real challenge. I mean, I've never done it, which is why I was probably a bit hasty to criticise your work, we are all doing the best we have with the toolas that are given to us hey? We can but try our best and I can see that you are passionate about this KZread thing, and, I really hope it works out well for you man! I shall watch your progression with a great deal of interest! I hope its better where you are now. Which city did you move from, just out of curiosity? I live in the UK but I've been to the States a few times and I'm working on getting back over soon, permanently if I can? God willing... : )

@adambishop5739

2 жыл бұрын

@@PatPosse OHH! I see you have a Vox AC-30 in the background, cool man, I've got one of those too!