How to modify steel rims

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

Oldskool welding by first class people.
Special made for our restore project.An ALFA ROMEO SPIDER "OSSO DI SEPPIA" from 1967.

Пікірлер: 439

  • @erwinroman4217
    @erwinroman42176 жыл бұрын

    Grew up in a garage like this. These guys are like my uncle Joe and Frank, both now gone. Humble, skilled, no frills. Kings.

  • @docstruthers
    @docstruthers10 жыл бұрын

    no gloves, hand held mask, no leathers, not even a mig or tig, even a smoke in the mouth............dudes are old school as hell. love it!

  • @docstruthers

    @docstruthers

    9 жыл бұрын

    S Casillas this is what part of being a man involved. all these panzy kids growin up with their parents tellin um not to get dirty. sad really. not to mention all the awesome skills being lost over time.

  • @joecorrie1

    @joecorrie1

    9 жыл бұрын

    those are the type of guys that built this country, gettin it done.

  • @dwalker399

    @dwalker399

    7 жыл бұрын

    All Countries!

  • @Dreinocz

    @Dreinocz

    6 жыл бұрын

    Justin S i was thinking about the same

  • @northwest_5oh3

    @northwest_5oh3

    6 жыл бұрын

    Justin S not even cutting lube or such..

  • @FrostD3mon
    @FrostD3mon9 жыл бұрын

    These old dogs display the hand and skill that built the world. Very impressed with these guys.

  • @rolandcunington9447

    @rolandcunington9447

    4 жыл бұрын

    I respect this comment

  • @mannieecker8602

    @mannieecker8602

    4 жыл бұрын

    100% TRUTH ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These guys are badass !!

  • @eugeni6756

    @eugeni6756

    4 жыл бұрын

    ...it is exactly what i am thinking...whit true skills and gold hands makes possible to be today on car or motorcycle...or any building...respect and consideration...and a big thank you

  • @shinersunlimited6123
    @shinersunlimited61235 жыл бұрын

    It’s rare to work with people who have such an understanding, that everything is so cohesive you don’t have to say a word you just work until the job is done and move onto the next one.

  • @delonthompson2527
    @delonthompson252710 жыл бұрын

    lookin at that table and the teamwork you can tell they been doing this awhile.

  • @LelieveldTV

    @LelieveldTV

    10 жыл бұрын

    Over 80 years and still working ....... And yes ,..... they have been doing this for a longtime.

  • @oliverwilliams4573

    @oliverwilliams4573

    8 жыл бұрын

    ball games

  • @bigdude6927407

    @bigdude6927407

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Roger Lelieveld ....I was wondering if they can do a set for me (I'm in the US)

  • @crobulari2328

    @crobulari2328

    8 жыл бұрын

    +delon thompson My machinist did this in the sixties. 5J to 5.5J etc.

  • @andrewwilson8317
    @andrewwilson83179 жыл бұрын

    How many wheels do you have to do to wear through a steel work table? Experience making it look easy! Total respect to masters of their craft.

  • @yves3560

    @yves3560

    6 жыл бұрын

    Done some calculating, 10 rims a day, 300 days a year, 40 years for sure, 120000 wheels, could easely be more :)

  • @xylosfurniture

    @xylosfurniture

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yves3560 fdfcffffffdffff

  • @farveree
    @farveree10 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating to watch two old timers doing what they do best. Thanks for posting

  • @fearnobeer9077
    @fearnobeer90774 жыл бұрын

    I really like watching old dudes work ,basic tools just gettin it done ,knowing their craft .

  • @mikemakuh5319
    @mikemakuh53194 жыл бұрын

    That's some of the Nicest stick welds I've ever seen!

  • @cknol8994
    @cknol89944 жыл бұрын

    We all 😍loved the small working garage behind the taxistand near the small road crossing in the green low lands of van der Mik in Vinkeveen. How many people came and went and how many wheels where widened by this trained team, countless! For my road and race cars I brought many sets, even a set for my girlfriends tiny Renault Clio and the quality of their work constantly of the highest level. Never a millimeter or even a little of that off in hight or wide so no disbalance and never a leak as well. A smear of paint of any kind available was enough to protect it against corrosion etc. And it always was a treat to look at their performance which never missed a single beat, it was like watching a play in a theater. Always in a good mood to answer a question. Like what was the max they did in mm, for racecars on the the former racecircuit Baarlo they widened rims with the height of a 60 litre oil drum! They disliked the widening of the wheels of my little Suzuki as the front of the streetcar could only handle half an inch widening which was difficult to weld so close to each other, they promoted wider with a smile, extra inches added didn t cost a penny more they offered smiling 😀 And when the ET count was not up to wish they were able to change the offset by bore out the or welds by replacing or even turn around the centre plate. Never a doubt their work would be unsafe at what speed or what performance at how many horsepower and torque whatsoever. Cost was I think15 builders extra a piece, I recall wiring a rim was 25 or 30 a piece, peanuts to the amount of work, the performance and the quality and to the sole other offered of simular services named Piper from their automatic mig welded rims. At van Mik could take a copied quarter of an A4 paper with the small pricelist with a dress and telephone number to give to a racefried or so as a kind of prehistoric but functional business card. I always think of it when I pass by to visit the Saab garage nearby sorry the van der Mik people don t do this widening stuff with all extra effects anymore, it was brilliant😎, luckily we still have the remembrance and the film here, hope more will show up. Cheers, Ron

  • @LelieveldTV

    @LelieveldTV

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, thank you for this special ,and comprehensive, report. It is striking that this short film (still) evokes so many reactions from everyone. In the 70s we were also active at Ovalracing (Dongevaart). The widening of steel rims was often done at the time. The machines were sold some time ago and these seniors have unfortunately stopped doing this masterpiece of welding .

  • @simonrichards7663
    @simonrichards76636 жыл бұрын

    Now that’s engineering work at its best! No computers no bloody health and safety to stop you thinking for yourself, brings back so many memories. I started work in 1981 and we still had overhead shafts and belts driving the machines and yes we still arc welded and I can still do that better than mig 😝😝

  • @matsgranqvist9928
    @matsgranqvist99288 жыл бұрын

    I always find such joy in watching professionals work with metal,be it gunsmithing or wheelwidening :)

  • @mathewwhittle10
    @mathewwhittle109 жыл бұрын

    This guy knows how to stick weld!

  • @davidpeirce8734

    @davidpeirce8734

    6 жыл бұрын

    mathew whittle he is like a machine extremely efficient,right

  • @MrTheHillfolk

    @MrTheHillfolk

    4 жыл бұрын

    That guy does it like we drink water . I thought he looked bored sometimes and was gonna do it behind his back or standing on his head at one point.

  • @kristopherhasenbuhler5393

    @kristopherhasenbuhler5393

    4 жыл бұрын

    Probably one of the best in the world wile his hands still work!

  • @shawngoldsberry747

    @shawngoldsberry747

    4 жыл бұрын

    Everyone should learn this process before mig\tig.

  • @HaxoReSc
    @HaxoReSc8 жыл бұрын

    This is probably the 200th time watching this video! Watching these two work on this is so epic! You can tell they have been doing this for a while! :D

  • @racer67
    @racer676 жыл бұрын

    These guys are such a rare breed! I feel priveledge to know the few i do know and the knowledge they teach me.

  • @sidewaysaction9983
    @sidewaysaction99836 жыл бұрын

    I used to do this a lot for oval racing. These two are as good as it gets, zero communication 100% action, top MMA skills.

  • @bSmartPR
    @bSmartPR8 жыл бұрын

    They're not metal workers, they're ARTISTS!!!

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sebastian Smart hit the nail on the head ARTISTS

  • @GMCShazamataz
    @GMCShazamataz9 жыл бұрын

    Maybe some of the younger folk should watch this video. Might be good for them. First class team these two..

  • @cameroncameron4274

    @cameroncameron4274

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agree with you on that one,going to buy a non runner engine of some sorts for my boys to play with.maybe a small stationery engine or a diesel v8

  • @Enforcer_WJDE

    @Enforcer_WJDE

    5 жыл бұрын

    I learned some stuff from "old folk" like them during my apprenticeship. I tried to soak up as much as possible before they retired including how to stick weld properly among other things.

  • @matheiuss9760
    @matheiuss97605 жыл бұрын

    I would trust those welds more than the ones done by a machine.

  • @MrTheHillfolk

    @MrTheHillfolk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Those welds have time and experience built right in

  • @TheSRBgamer63
    @TheSRBgamer638 жыл бұрын

    They old,but damn those welds,looks like they done with machine :).

  • @Josh-py2in
    @Josh-py2in5 жыл бұрын

    Damn good looking welds for an arc welder.

  • @grade1o
    @grade1o9 жыл бұрын

    A dyeing art form, old school, they even done so many worn the table out.

  • @arccraft8583
    @arccraft85839 жыл бұрын

    I'm always Respect the old school....

  • @RZ350N
    @RZ350N6 жыл бұрын

    I love this kinda content, could watch it for hours.

  • @cloudbydayfirebynight618
    @cloudbydayfirebynight6186 жыл бұрын

    Waaaay better craftsmanship....gotta appreciate the old timers that took the time to show us how it's up to us to continue way to go guys

  • @alwcurlz
    @alwcurlz7 жыл бұрын

    That is some amazing work! Amazing skills!

  • @22kpar1xcyberdyne9
    @22kpar1xcyberdyne96 жыл бұрын

    Those welds were impressive. Never seen any welds made that smooth from a welding rod. 👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @rogerc.roberts4705

    @rogerc.roberts4705

    5 жыл бұрын

    The entire process was not shown. Too time consuming to show every step of the operation.

  • @rogerhearn7109
    @rogerhearn71095 жыл бұрын

    Respect to you gentlemen, old school workmanship, the Best

  • @brucegillen9593
    @brucegillen95936 жыл бұрын

    These guys make it look so easy. No need for fancy machines like on Bitchin' rides or West Coast Customs. Old school.

  • @tommylandaw7470
    @tommylandaw74704 жыл бұрын

    Master of cool old school wheel banding... hat's off to em....

  • @MsMoknin
    @MsMoknin8 жыл бұрын

    marvelous cant beat experience god bless gentleman

  • @jarnosaarinen4583
    @jarnosaarinen45834 жыл бұрын

    Best welds i've ever seen from a stick! Give that man a cigar!!

  • @pauldavidson6321

    @pauldavidson6321

    4 жыл бұрын

    Practice makes perfect with stick welding , the more you do the better you should get .

  • @jomanallen
    @jomanallen Жыл бұрын

    That was cool to watch. They made it look easy

  • @spranggatsnonoy1166
    @spranggatsnonoy11664 жыл бұрын

    I cant believe i'm watching masters at work! wooowwww!!!!

  • @sujitnayak6414
    @sujitnayak64146 жыл бұрын

    A big salute 4 this team.

  • @user-ns9cv6kb1e
    @user-ns9cv6kb1e3 жыл бұрын

    Wow.... Your welding skill is awesome

  • @billyjack8119
    @billyjack81194 жыл бұрын

    Damn good show! Complete respect

  • @jasonwishart8153
    @jasonwishart81535 жыл бұрын

    Recognised the wheels as alfa 105. Nice work.

  • @matthewharris3081
    @matthewharris30816 жыл бұрын

    Wow that guy welding has some time on a stick welder. You know you have it right wen you can repeatedly strike an arc right wen you want it. Mad props!

  • @KingKarlder2
    @KingKarlder29 жыл бұрын

    Zwei absolute Profis am Werk...

  • @hectorortega9131
    @hectorortega91316 жыл бұрын

    Ain't Nobody gonna tell these Old Dogs How to do their Job!.. 🖒

  • @halidaf76
    @halidaf768 жыл бұрын

    no fancy toll.no laser guide no nothing.man this a real PRO.best part is i like the cigar that stick to his mouth

  • @juan8288
    @juan82885 жыл бұрын

    Old school, like my father....love it!!

  • @pedrohernandez742
    @pedrohernandez74210 жыл бұрын

    really they do team work. Awsome!

  • @valley2118
    @valley21186 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a Alfa Romeo wheel 😎 growing up my older brother use to take his wheels to a local shop owned by a Japanese fabricator 👍👍 during the 70s here in California. 4x108 bolt pattern.

  • @insuredbymafia911
    @insuredbymafia9119 жыл бұрын

    these old boys have it down pat .. nice work ..

  • @johnnywrench9669
    @johnnywrench96694 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video

  • @prancstaman
    @prancstaman6 жыл бұрын

    Yessir, Love watching old school dogs work. Awesome!!!

  • @teamidris
    @teamidris5 жыл бұрын

    Love it :o) Stick as well, just like when I were a kid.

  • @MrZdvy
    @MrZdvy5 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been to this place a few times about 15 years ago. They did a good job on my rims, only downside you needed more weight to balance the wheels afterwards. But great work, a lost art.. That worn out table should be in a museum.

  • @Klownguy22
    @Klownguy225 жыл бұрын

    Thanks camera man, now I’ve got arc burn to my eyes!!

  • @wvXvxvXvw
    @wvXvxvXvw5 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap, with a stick welder. Mad props.

  • @Electriccoolaid
    @Electriccoolaid4 жыл бұрын

    Mooi om te zien dit en nog elektrode ook

  • @Oppong21
    @Oppong219 жыл бұрын

    Experts, do no talking, only working... good.

  • @mikejackman4416
    @mikejackman44164 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love 6011 rod these guys are masters

  • @micksterboone4517
    @micksterboone45179 жыл бұрын

    Great video, +1 on the welder.

  • @Dillon7932
    @Dillon79328 жыл бұрын

    Geniuses! Masters of The Wheel!

  • @DjJtown
    @DjJtown8 жыл бұрын

    Crosby Stills Nash and Young on the radio....Classic Rock Rules!

  • @emanuelebercamano6847
    @emanuelebercamano68477 жыл бұрын

    Me saco el sombrero ante el tipo que suelda!!!! increible!!!!!

  • @antoinettesacchetti7616
    @antoinettesacchetti76164 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic take my hat off to you both

  • @paulbrimo4437
    @paulbrimo44372 жыл бұрын

    When I see basic steel rims now I’ll visualise them modified to fit wider tyres.

  • @RobertKeyPro
    @RobertKeyPro8 жыл бұрын

    Just learn from it Guys, this is Old School, They welding with Elecrode, not Tig! Respect.

  • @radekbank9718
    @radekbank97184 жыл бұрын

    Very nice work.Old school Is the best👍

  • @ElderlyIron
    @ElderlyIron4 жыл бұрын

    That guy sure knows how to lay a bead!

  • @c.k.m4741
    @c.k.m47418 жыл бұрын

    thanks very much, and good luck with the Spider

  • @bulikhba
    @bulikhba10 жыл бұрын

    RESPECT to these man they are awesome

  • @MrEst1953
    @MrEst19534 жыл бұрын

    Good welding man . A few bits of safety gear would help you stay safe.

  • @larsv1377
    @larsv13776 жыл бұрын

    The welder never loses his cigar!!!

  • @hirthirthirt1693
    @hirthirthirt16934 жыл бұрын

    Nice ol' workers, love them

  • @lijkenkist1
    @lijkenkist16 жыл бұрын

    This makes me really proud to be Dutch

  • @marksommers6764
    @marksommers67645 жыл бұрын

    Great team !

  • @frankfitzpatrick5300
    @frankfitzpatrick53005 жыл бұрын

    Excellent old school craftsmanship at its finest I saw him True the wheels dynamically . But , I'm curious as to if they will balance both dynamically & statically ? Fine work gentlemen !

  • @DarioC1956
    @DarioC19567 жыл бұрын

    two men as a man.Great old guys.

  • @shawngoldsberry747
    @shawngoldsberry7474 жыл бұрын

    Love the old lathe ,the shop I work at has a 1912 lodge & Shipley with 4' dia. chuck. You better have your man hands on if you wanna hand feed anything. Lucky Big Bertha has power feed even on the compound.

  • @pawelwis7215
    @pawelwis72158 жыл бұрын

    Nice work table!:P

  • @yves3560

    @yves3560

    4 жыл бұрын

    Worn through :) How many rims went over tha table ??

  • @solomonalami5929
    @solomonalami59298 жыл бұрын

    hii guys . i ve been searching for this video for long time . and just found it now :) good guys

  • @daveb9370
    @daveb93706 жыл бұрын

    Respect to the old craftsmen.

  • @ovalwingnut
    @ovalwingnut7 жыл бұрын

    Very COoL. Just "get er' done".. OK! Done :) GR8T Job...

  • @brianatherton4916
    @brianatherton49166 жыл бұрын

    Very nice work

  • @ctbazoa
    @ctbazoa5 жыл бұрын

    Meu amigo, que coisa linda de se ver. Conseguir fazer um cordão bonito desse usando eletrodo, é para poucos.

  • @ghostrider9821
    @ghostrider98216 жыл бұрын

    Serious respect to these guys.....only problem is that once these guys are gone.......it’s a lost art working old school....... sadly

  • @rogerc.roberts4705

    @rogerc.roberts4705

    5 жыл бұрын

    So you are suggesting no young people are willing to develop skills/learn a trade? AI and robotics are NOT able to replace humans. What is shown here is one thing a skilled person can do outside of how his skills are used for production work.

  • @donaldgray2128
    @donaldgray21284 жыл бұрын

    Skills, well done

  • @spo5egy
    @spo5egy4 жыл бұрын

    I was blessed to learn with gas and a buzzbox many years ago 😎

  • @lobmin
    @lobmin3 жыл бұрын

    Them old codgers do good work

  • @canitogalicia
    @canitogalicia6 жыл бұрын

    Craftsmanship at its best....old school ,,, just like grandpa

  • @rahimselmani8006
    @rahimselmani80066 жыл бұрын

    Shout out to all the welders and machinists of the world ...

  • @martingarza3383
    @martingarza33836 жыл бұрын

    These guys are bad to the bone. Top notch skill and the ability to hold his hand so close to where the other fella is tacking is amazing 👍. Most times I tack things together without a helmet I get "sunburn" ha ha ha but seems these guys are impervious to all that radiation truly old school.

  • @navvet4518
    @navvet45184 жыл бұрын

    Those look like mig welds. Stick welding with a big stogie! True old school craftsmen.

  • @fredwinkel1056
    @fredwinkel10566 жыл бұрын

    Van de Mik!! Geweldig dat oude materiaal, maar je had daarna wel een stel prachtige rechte velgen!! Ouderwets ambachtelijk werk!!!

  • @alfa-fratelli1541

    @alfa-fratelli1541

    6 жыл бұрын

    Klopt, het zijn gewoon vaklui . Maar alle spullen zijn inmiddels verkocht en de heren waren bij het filmen al enigszins op leeftijd. En idd prima velgen onder de Alfa.

  • @fredwinkel1056

    @fredwinkel1056

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ik weet het dat ze niet meer bestaan! Was echt een genot om naar te kijken. Vooral het volledig doorgesleten blad van de werktafel van het ronddraaien van de velg, vond ik prachtig en is in je filmpje prima te zien. Een mooie alfa trouwens!!

  • @hjonedmonds
    @hjonedmonds6 жыл бұрын

    Killer beads, mad skills

  • @michaelst.george9856
    @michaelst.george98567 жыл бұрын

    I think I got flash burn after watching this...

  • @valeriusweist9449

    @valeriusweist9449

    4 жыл бұрын

    Was thinking same thing. Lol

  • @fbbc6495
    @fbbc64957 жыл бұрын

    wow! real dudes no fancy shit good work like it !

  • @ahoo5753
    @ahoo57536 жыл бұрын

    When it was a art with hand tools great welds

  • @MGMarcel
    @MGMarcel10 жыл бұрын

    These dudes are awesome. I have a set of RS wheels for my Taunus sittin in the garage and let me tell you, i'd kill to get them widened by those guys ! Sadly you dont find people doin that work in germany (anymore) :(

  • @quadrifoglio4156
    @quadrifoglio41565 жыл бұрын

    A thing italy and britain have in common is Craftmanship... the only countries that built coaches with beating hearts. This is also why people say they're crap... Errare humanum est!

  • @YZFMANIAC08

    @YZFMANIAC08

    5 жыл бұрын

    Quadrifoglio 4 this is in the Netherlands, not crappy italy

  • @quadrifoglio4156

    @quadrifoglio4156

    5 жыл бұрын

    YZFMANIAC08 sorry you built better cars in NL

  • @fredsanford4116
    @fredsanford41165 жыл бұрын

    I watched it twice!

  • @jeffreyphillips5757
    @jeffreyphillips57576 жыл бұрын

    I did that with a pair of VW wheels for a dune buggy but added a 6 inch ring to run 11 wide inch tires. I just tacked the ring on then rolled it on the garage floor & had a bead just like those.

  • @alfa-fratelli1541
    @alfa-fratelli15419 жыл бұрын

    Klopt, iconen in traditioneel laswerk!

  • @toadskwirm8824
    @toadskwirm88246 жыл бұрын

    Real OG welding

  • @shahee1
    @shahee19 жыл бұрын

    Lovely!!!

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