How to mix a snare drum: finding and fixing phase problems

Sooooo many snare drum mixes get effed up by snare phase problems most people aren't even aware of - don't mix another snare until you watch this!
Beau Burchell of Saosin shows a few common ones + how to fix them in your mixes using Pro Tools and Fab Filter Pro Q.
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  • @morbida
    @morbida7 жыл бұрын

    Wont be a problem if 1. you use it in Natural Phase mode (always do that on transient heavy sounds) 2. don't filter with 96 dB per octave hehe!

  • @danhawk6129

    @danhawk6129

    7 жыл бұрын

    was gonna comment exactly that! natural phase and a more gentle dB/oct

  • @ElMoShApPiNeSs

    @ElMoShApPiNeSs

    7 жыл бұрын

    Who the hell uses that steep of a curve?

  • @Ledjent

    @Ledjent

    7 жыл бұрын

    Buster Odeholm Can we mix HLB's song please? Your productions are killing the world man!

  • @kye903

    @kye903

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've seen videos where Bob Horn uses some pretty aggressive curves actually. And he seems to know what he's doing. I'm sure like anything else, there's a time and a place for them, otherwise they wouldn't be available.

  • @Charlyfromthenuclearcity

    @Charlyfromthenuclearcity

    7 жыл бұрын

    Some of these videos are interesting, but it seems that often the theorical knowledge is missing.

  • @Charlyfromthenuclearcity
    @Charlyfromthenuclearcity7 жыл бұрын

    Filtering and EQs change phase relationship. It's EQ 101, isn't it ?

  • @OfLefty
    @OfLefty7 жыл бұрын

    This dude is a genius, I really hope Saosin with Anthony being back do more together

  • @user-ic1bt3qs4j
    @user-ic1bt3qs4j7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome info! I Had same thing with highpass on kick. It was about 20-25hz, but actual low end (40-50hz) became longer and tightness was simply destroyed. So yeah... Ears.

  • @FrozenSparky
    @FrozenSparky7 жыл бұрын

    I found out about this the hard way a while back. What I do now is not use filters on individual snare bot/top/OH because each would introduce a phase shift that could be destructive in relation to the other snares. Instead I put just one filter on the Snare BUS. Linear phase EQs are also an option

  • @cbrooks0905
    @cbrooks09054 жыл бұрын

    I use Logic, and the way I work around this issue is I use linear phase eq for high passing and cutting. Then I use whatever eq I want to boost.

  • @gastonjabaly
    @gastonjabaly3 жыл бұрын

    each plugin intoduces latency so basicly your phse might un align in the aftermath

  • @junkawakami3193

    @junkawakami3193

    3 жыл бұрын

    that's why every DAWs should have Latency Compensation to combat this, up to a certain degree, of course.

  • @jasonfontaine7072
    @jasonfontaine70726 жыл бұрын

    Does this matter if you only use samples?

  • @DanDuskin

    @DanDuskin

    5 жыл бұрын

    In most cases, it’s not as relevant.

  • @heavymetalmixer91
    @heavymetalmixer916 жыл бұрын

    I've always wondered why high HPF/LPF slopes like 96dB exist. Are they only for to fix bad recording problems? Or are they actually the best choice?

  • @DanDuskin

    @DanDuskin

    5 жыл бұрын

    heavymetalmixer91 they are most useful on stems / groups / aux’s.

  • @heavymetalmixer91

    @heavymetalmixer91

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've been testing many different slopes since that comment weeks ago, and I came to the conclusion that any slope steeper than 18dB it's too risky to use, as it produces artifacts, like smearing trasients.

  • @matenorth
    @matenorth6 жыл бұрын

    So what is the solution to this again?

  • @Phybia

    @Phybia

    6 жыл бұрын

    This is more of an awereness video.

  • @radiogorenc6185

    @radiogorenc6185

    6 жыл бұрын

    Still what is the solution ? To hi pass everytiing that you want and then check the phase ?

  • @Bunglespice
    @Bunglespice5 жыл бұрын

    You hiding a bottle of vodka under that pillow, bro?

  • @tecnogadget2
    @tecnogadget26 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, eq shifts the phase, like it did in almost 98% of the records that you've listened on you life. It's not that hard to search how many degrees are you flipping the phase with a filter. C'mon mate.

  • @NeZversSounds
    @NeZversSounds7 жыл бұрын

    That's why there's linear phase EQ.

  • @cassio_zambotto

    @cassio_zambotto

    7 жыл бұрын

    pre ringing sucks.

  • @tubo628
    @tubo6287 жыл бұрын

    "To the pile of Shit" 😂 LOL

  • @forgettable8365
    @forgettable83656 жыл бұрын

    FLUUUUUUUUFFFFF!!!!!!!!

  • @mhuq4854
    @mhuq48546 жыл бұрын

    Pro Tools is so damn over-rated, though.

  • @parallax-821
    @parallax-8216 жыл бұрын

    They all sound exactly the same..

  • @SoundcastStudios

    @SoundcastStudios

    6 жыл бұрын

    what you listening to it on?

  • @parallax-821

    @parallax-821

    6 жыл бұрын

    A a custom PC with an i7 6700k CPU, through a focusrite 2i2 and Audio Technica M50 headphones. The difference in the snares sounds very very subtle, almost so subtle that within a mix of numerous instruments, would be impossible to differentiate. Just in my opinion, sounds like a lot of trouble to go through to eliminate the slight "rattle" of the snare when it's struck.

  • @DanDuskin

    @DanDuskin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Listen to the low-end

  • @XxTRIPPINGxxGUITARxX

    @XxTRIPPINGxxGUITARxX

    5 жыл бұрын

    Listen to the low end. It loses a shit ton of it.

  • @nickcrane8329

    @nickcrane8329

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you deaf?

  • @morbidmanmusic
    @morbidmanmusic2 жыл бұрын

    Enough with the drum samples. Drums on top of drums.. get a sound.