How to Meter for Film Photography // Highlights or Shadows?

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When it comes to shooting film, especially if you’re new to it, metering can be one of the more confusing or intimidating topics. What kind of meter should you use? Can you just use the meter inside your camera? Why do people always suggest you overexpose your film? There are a lot of questions and I’m partnering up with my good friends at The Darkroom to try and give you all of the information you need to make the photos you want. This is the first of many videos where we dig into the technical side of shooting film. Be sure to check out the blog post on The Darkroom’s website to find even more information and examples to learn from!
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  • @Biker_Gremling
    @Biker_Gremling5 жыл бұрын

    About those light meter apps, please do both iPhone and Android ones 🙏

  • @stuarthayes8477
    @stuarthayes84775 жыл бұрын

    So happy you're at this full time now, your content is top notch and always helpful!

  • @Guairenito
    @Guairenito5 жыл бұрын

    If you can and want, a video about how to use a Sekonic meter correctly would also be very useful. When to use the sphere in and when to use it out. Functionalities of the metter, and stuff like that. Thank you for this video, it is very helpful.

  • @austintexas29
    @austintexas295 жыл бұрын

    Loving all of these videos you've been pumping out lately man... as always

  • @PikulBoy
    @PikulBoy11 ай бұрын

    I've watched over a dozen videos on metering, and this was by far the most helpful. Thanks!

  • @MrScottCarr
    @MrScottCarr5 жыл бұрын

    You are cranking out these great videos! PS Happy Go Skateboarding Day!

  • @Crying_Kyle
    @Crying_Kyle5 жыл бұрын

    Legit the video that I was looking for only till recently I started wondering about how to use a light meter. Thank you Matt for this helpful video!

  • @jaymangussad9697
    @jaymangussad96975 жыл бұрын

    This is really helpful Matt! I generally shoot overexposed by on stop metered in the shadows when shooting color negatives, i guess ill start trying to try and meter the midtones for maximum latitude. Keep em videos coming!

  • @buyaport
    @buyaport5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for putting this video together. I am VERY MUCH looking forward to a video covering the smartphone apps!

  • @roiloubia4483
    @roiloubia4483 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Matt. Excellent explanation. Short, precise and to the point..

  • @argallegos8558
    @argallegos85585 жыл бұрын

    Helpful video. Thanks Matt!

  • @HerfingPug
    @HerfingPug2 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic. Finally metering that makes sense. Thanks Matt.

  • @nicholaschalmers4537
    @nicholaschalmers45373 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much Matt. This was perfectly explained.

  • @_theyojimbo
    @_theyojimbo5 жыл бұрын

    Great video streak this week Matt, been pretty bored lately and these are always interesting for me to watch! Been wanting you to make one about metering so I'm spoiled ahah

  • @ddaly20111993
    @ddaly201119935 жыл бұрын

    Great video on metering. I do mostly street photos so I always meter for the shadows or for skintones by metering the light hitting my hand.

  • @AbduStudio
    @AbduStudio5 жыл бұрын

    Everything I needed to know! Thanks 😊

  • @kribomon
    @kribomon5 жыл бұрын

    Great and informative video! Cheers Matt!

  • @rebeccaharris334
    @rebeccaharris3344 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!

  • @jllanesphoto
    @jllanesphoto4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks Matt!!!

  • @DirtyyDom
    @DirtyyDom3 жыл бұрын

    That was so helpful and to the point. Thank you for this.

  • @alteki
    @alteki5 жыл бұрын

    Well done. Very useful information. Thank you.

  • @StephenMilner
    @StephenMilner4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, what an awesome video. Keep up the superb work! I look forward to your next video.

  • @vectorhunter4659
    @vectorhunter46595 жыл бұрын

    this video helps me a lot Matt! thank you

  • @shaunhall8158
    @shaunhall81585 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks Matt.

  • @Litosjr24TV
    @Litosjr24TV5 жыл бұрын

    thanks for this super helpful video. It has cleared some doubts i had...thanks again dude!

  • @johngskewes
    @johngskewes5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt- Your channel is very useful - thank you. I have recently been trying to unlearn digital photography, and learn...film photography. The most useful tools I have for learning right now are my Sekonic L-508 and my Fujifilm X-T3. Using the Fuji in manual mode (adapted manual lenses,) I meter the scene, make a judgement, then see the effect. After a few weeks of this, I am able to use the Fuji and the meter and not "cheat." I am more confident and the results are predictable. I set the meter and the camera ISO a half a stop apart - it's my feeling the camera is darker than film. I'd be interested in your thoughts. Thanks for all the great work. My film cameras are a Spotmatic and Zorki 4K.

  • @hayleywood462
    @hayleywood462 Жыл бұрын

    This was super helpful with the examples and exactly what I was looking for!

  • @jeuneflingue307
    @jeuneflingue3072 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this vid ! This was really clear ! :)

  • @michaelfilofficial
    @michaelfilofficial3 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate the side-by-side visuals!

  • @alexandradefer9434
    @alexandradefer94343 жыл бұрын

    This was such a helpful video for light metering! Mahalo!

  • @ItsTOUGHtobeFascinating
    @ItsTOUGHtobeFascinating5 жыл бұрын

    I'm new to film, so this video was very helpful. Thanks!

  • @aristoioannidis7490
    @aristoioannidis74905 жыл бұрын

    A Grade material Matt! Thanks you so much.

  • @yangjiazhen
    @yangjiazhen5 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video! Concise but informative. Thank you.

  • @mynciee
    @mynciee5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Matt! Thank you for the video. Looking forward to the next one because I have had mixed experiences with light metering apps. I will say however there are really simple sunny 16 apps out there- I use one that's just a simple slider with ISO, aperture and shutter speed and based on the lighting condition it your choices to what would work together.

  • @cjwillis6965
    @cjwillis69655 жыл бұрын

    Great Vid! This was extremely helpful.

  • @2filmshooters
    @2filmshooters5 жыл бұрын

    We always meter for the shadow! Good job man!

  • @Enevan1968
    @Enevan19685 жыл бұрын

    A friend gave me a Pentax Spotmeter V last year. Best gift ever!

  • @marlon.iraheta
    @marlon.iraheta5 жыл бұрын

    Love it man thanks for the vid !!

  • @garethVanDagger
    @garethVanDagger2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate, this video finally made things click for me. I now have a better understanding

  • @lolmdr431
    @lolmdr4315 жыл бұрын

    great video, thank you Matt !

  • @Dunnoxer
    @Dunnoxer5 жыл бұрын

    Oooh, can't wait for the smartphone app video!

  • @hafiz2664
    @hafiz26645 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say this was the metering video help I've been looking for. A lotta videos just go meter for highlights, shadows, bla bla bla without really showing the difference between them. excellent work Matt.

  • @GrandTreasureBay
    @GrandTreasureBay2 жыл бұрын

    This was hugely helpful. Thank you!

  • @nuj427
    @nuj4275 жыл бұрын

    Long time subscriber here. Like way back like when you uploaded just under five videos. Never commented but why not. First, man, if you've done a video like this maybe six years about you've would of really saved me tons of rolls. Started digital ten years ago, then jumped into film relaying on the meter and giving me a lot of crap in the beginning. Anyways, a great video to refresh the memories. I'm a SF native, but now living in France. If you're ever heading for Europe do let us know!

  • @j.fontaine2491
    @j.fontaine24915 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Great examples. Great hat. 🤟🏽

  • @TankDude
    @TankDude5 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding video! Extremely helpful since I bought a Mamiya C330 :)

  • @hughwolfe1176
    @hughwolfe11765 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Matt. This is good basic information film or digital. Makes me want to dig out my fathers old Contaflex vintage '53 and shoot a roll.

  • @mattdayphoto

    @mattdayphoto

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hugh Wolfe go for it!

  • @sednasix6608
    @sednasix66083 жыл бұрын

    Simple, down to the point.

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo3 жыл бұрын

    That’s why the Leica M5 is so great. It’s got a spot meter that’s super precise.

  • @lexie95hannah
    @lexie95hannah3 жыл бұрын

    FINALLY! i now get it. thank you!

  • @jonathantaylor5981
    @jonathantaylor59815 жыл бұрын

    Killing it! Maybe spot metering tutorial next?

  • @maxheadroom3000
    @maxheadroom30005 жыл бұрын

    Finally the vid we needed. Thanks yo!

  • @Pineappletrainable
    @Pineappletrainable2 жыл бұрын

    This was exactly what i was looking for, super good info. Thanks

  • @mattdayphoto

    @mattdayphoto

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it!

  • @michaelgizicki9625
    @michaelgizicki9625 Жыл бұрын

    really great and helpful

  • @elainethi
    @elainethi3 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much!! this is exactly what i was looking for (-:

  • @KeithCanisius
    @KeithCanisius4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, just where I'm at in my learning curve..

  • @jacquelinepuga8315
    @jacquelinepuga83154 жыл бұрын

    Super cool. Thanks!

  • @JakeSlabrock
    @JakeSlabrock5 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thanks for making this

  • @mattdayphoto

    @mattdayphoto

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jake Shapiro Thanks for watching!

  • @voyagersquaremuzika
    @voyagersquaremuzika5 жыл бұрын

    I never use light meter,i use my experience and sunny 16 rule. Great videos man!

  • @mdbdoc
    @mdbdoc5 жыл бұрын

    thank you for this!

  • @pmartinez358
    @pmartinez3585 жыл бұрын

    Buy a lightmeter on a whim.... video on how to use it properly comes up the same way....WIN!

  • @mattdayphoto

    @mattdayphoto

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ghost_Vinyl_Media58 it’s destiny!

  • @ShawnBrezny
    @ShawnBrezny5 жыл бұрын

    Spot on and enlightening 😀

  • @mattdayphoto

    @mattdayphoto

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shawn Brezny I see what you did there.

  • @CARLOSGUTIERREZ65
    @CARLOSGUTIERREZ655 жыл бұрын

    Trev is awesome. I got a chance to chat with him a bit at the Paiedeia. Great guy and photographer.

  • @oopsydaisy74
    @oopsydaisy745 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to that metering app video

  • @Noealz
    @Noealz5 жыл бұрын

    great stuff matt

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo4 жыл бұрын

    That’s why the Leica M5 is so awesome. It’s got a spot meter that’s super reliable. I can determine perfect exposure for slide film with it even in really insane contrast situations. I usually meter for the brighter parts of the shadows with negativ film because I don’t like that overexposed look and I want *all* the details in the highlight. Although often enough when shooting Portra 400 I just try not to underexpose to much and occasionally even shoot wide open in the daylight.

  • @lifeonfilm7227
    @lifeonfilm72275 жыл бұрын

    Cool stuff. I usually meter off my hand If I tend to nail skin exposure. Otherwise I'm all about good old sunny 16!

  • @timmyd999
    @timmyd9995 жыл бұрын

    Super stuff matt. Would love a similar video of how to meter scenes at night :)

  • @portfolio641
    @portfolio6413 жыл бұрын

    loooooovee these photos

  • @Exercises10
    @Exercises104 жыл бұрын

    Good video thanks for sharing! You said color negative film holds highlight detail well so meter sometimes between highlights and shadows depending on how bright light is. What if shooting b&w does this logic hold true there too? I just bought my first film camera and I am excited to give this a try!! Thank you

  • @Valentiono87
    @Valentiono872 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!!!

  • @kayla9111
    @kayla91114 жыл бұрын

    I’m late but I love your channel thank u omg

  • @sandrag.3855
    @sandrag.38555 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Just got myself a light meter so this is very useful. :D Looking forward for the smartphone app video. Hope you cover android apps as well...

  • @flowerlittle1810
    @flowerlittle18105 жыл бұрын

    gooood job. thanks!

  • @edscannell1019
    @edscannell10194 жыл бұрын

    Great video Matt....quick question were you shooting at box speed in those examples?

  • @terrywbreedlove
    @terrywbreedlove5 жыл бұрын

    I will be shooting Velvia 100 in 4x5 this week in a very green HOH rainforest. I will use my Sekonic but really not sure about my capabilities with it yet. I have 20 sheets and plan to shoot them all this week.

  • @Emilioh888
    @Emilioh8888 ай бұрын

    Good stuff

  • @janbeers3952
    @janbeers39525 жыл бұрын

    Hello from Holland Matt. You mention exposure bracketing which seems a clever idea. How do you ‘remember’ what exposure you were shooting on in the first place? Do you take notes? When I get film back that is not exposures right I often miss that. And again an again I forget. Not so clever. Love your channel! Kind regards, Jan

  • @matthewmendoza5729
    @matthewmendoza57295 жыл бұрын

    This video couldn't have come at a better time! Just got myself a Leica M2, so not having a meter has been worrying me a bit. After seeing this though, I'm much more confident in going out with a handheld and getting the shot. Keep up the great work!

  • @awprc

    @awprc

    23 күн бұрын

    Just had to mention your Leica

  • @matthewmendoza5729

    @matthewmendoza5729

    22 күн бұрын

    @@awprc Would have mentioned any camera I had. Have a good one!

  • @awprc

    @awprc

    18 күн бұрын

    @@matthewmendoza5729 Just had to reply

  • @theartistFKAjudge
    @theartistFKAjudge Жыл бұрын

    Dude THANK YOU!!! Just picked up a L-308X-U and needed to know wtf I need to do😂

  • @caiopepper
    @caiopepper5 жыл бұрын

    thanks, dude!

  • @khalilhenderson4082
    @khalilhenderson40822 жыл бұрын

    This is great information, does distance matter as well? So If I’m further away from the subject should i consider metering differently? Or always meter up close.

  • @jonathanhornby
    @jonathanhornby4 жыл бұрын

    I shot a short film using an Aaton Prod super-16mm camera. My DSLR, phone app and the Aaton camera’s meter all gave different readings. I decided trusting the Aaton’s meter, which meters for the light reflecting off the film; I used a grey card since the scenes showed all spectrums of skin tones. The Aaton metered about +1 to +2 compared to the DSLR but the results were perfect. I could have easily exposed for even more. Film is amazing, even IF there’s no LCD preview 😉 #ShotFilm #FilmWins

  • @alexczompoly4219
    @alexczompoly4219 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. What camera did u use tho?

  • @joyce-ux7ec
    @joyce-ux7ec3 жыл бұрын

    谢谢!很有用~

  • @aladinsarsipeus
    @aladinsarsipeus3 жыл бұрын

    I’m learning 35mm film photography the dumb expensive way. Roll after roll of 35mm film. I did start using Lux a couple of weeks ago though😀

  • @sonygoup
    @sonygoup5 жыл бұрын

    I always meter for shadows, it doesn't always work. But I get a over/under exposed images every 2-3 images a roll. I just started using a Sekonic l308 for my Bronica and I'm confused because leaving the cover on gives a different reading then off. Most cases the off give good readings.

  • @leidibugz
    @leidibugz3 жыл бұрын

    Was that light meter apps video finally uploaded? I'm curious about thatttt

  • @joseuribe1552
    @joseuribe15525 жыл бұрын

    great info, however I shoot mostly b&w film, would you meter the same way? For digital I almost always meter for the highlights for a moody/dramatic look that I like. Would you meter the same for black and white film to get that moody look.

  • @BakeYourNoodle
    @BakeYourNoodle4 жыл бұрын

    Thank You

  • @btrdangerdan2010
    @btrdangerdan20105 жыл бұрын

    Very informative thank you for this Matt! Currently I own four handheld light meters. The oldest being a General Electric PR-1 selenium cell meter. Two Minolta meters, Auto Meter Vf and Flash Meter IV . And a Gossen Lunasix. I wonder if the Minolta Flash Meter IV is a incident /reflected type of light meter.

  • @sexysilversurfer

    @sexysilversurfer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sun and D-970 do they give the same reading ?

  • @lucius4002
    @lucius40024 жыл бұрын

    Hey Matt, Are you metering for b&w the same way as for color negative?

  • @nineteenseventy4588
    @nineteenseventy45885 жыл бұрын

    The Lumu Light Meter app does have a very usable spot Meter in it which can be used without the rather expensive Lumu itself.

  • @candykanefpv98
    @candykanefpv985 жыл бұрын

    4:40 how about metering off the middle shadows? not the darkest parts of his face, but the parts that are middle of the ground. Not highlights, not shadows. And then getting that dialed in to "neutral grey" and you've got highlights that aren't blown out, and shadows that are nice. So on a digital camera, using spot meter to get in on an area with nice neutral shadows. The lighter shadows on the face.

  • @TracyClayton
    @TracyClayton5 жыл бұрын

    Gonna love the Matt Day + Darkroom Lab collaboration. Looking forward to it.

  • @mattdayphoto

    @mattdayphoto

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tracy Clayton thanks, man!

  • @davehyper7835
    @davehyper78355 жыл бұрын

    About the best advice you can get all compressed into a 6 min video! Excellent stuff sir!

  • @mosephina
    @mosephina4 жыл бұрын

    Hi...newbie here, so forgive me if I get the terminology mixed up. I've read two separate articles that recommend Incident light metering for the shadows. Metering for a 1/2 the box speed (ASA 100, metered as if ASA 50), setting the meter to EV -2, and finally reducing development time by 10-15% to keep the highlights from blowing out. My understanding is that this is an attempt to overexpose the shadows to get detail if you want it, and under develop to avoid highlight blow out. Have you had any experience with this metering method? If so, what are you experiences?

  • @photog1529
    @photog15294 жыл бұрын

    All meters (handheld, in-camera, etc.) provide mid-tone exposure readings. From that point, the photographer still needs to determine where he or she wants the shadows or highlights to fall and adjust the exposure accordingly. The meter reading is just a starting point.

  • @spencerrobertson604

    @spencerrobertson604

    Жыл бұрын

    Reflected and incident meters don’t work the same at all.

  • @boukebeer
    @boukebeer5 жыл бұрын

    what is a cheap, but good hand held lightmeter? i'm looking if one of those old minolta meters are any good but i don't know

  • @johnmccarthy169
    @johnmccarthy1695 жыл бұрын

    Well, whatever happened to knowing about middle gray, and one stop over that and one stop under that idea relative to what you are looking to do? Or metering several places to get an idea about the number of stops?

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