How to: Manually Pick Up a Bore or a Hole with an Indicator - Haas Automation Tip of the Day

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In today’s episode, Mark covers another topic that every machinist - whether a beginner or an experienced pro - can benefit from: Using an indicator to manually locate a hole. It’s not as simple as it sounds. Watch as Mark walks through a step-by-step demonstration, using various techniques and several different styles of indicator!
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  • @johnvine5731
    @johnvine573110 ай бұрын

    My heart actually jumped when the indicator got destroyed!

  • @madswinebbq
    @madswinebbq6 жыл бұрын

    I actually appreciate that you gave no warning to the crash because in real life Machining when you crash there is no warning!!

  • @rdhingrausic

    @rdhingrausic

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ruben Alvarez ghhh

  • @Ztalin

    @Ztalin

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@highstreetkillers4377 if you're not crashing you're not working Hard enough.

  • @TheWireEDM

    @TheWireEDM

    5 жыл бұрын

    There is one warning. It's the voice that in your head says "naaah, not gonna check, it's probably fine"

  • @manicmotox4214

    @manicmotox4214

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Ztalin or maybe......you work hard enough, and your just a safety Susan 😄........I'm sure that's a thing, I'm sure of it! Lol

  • @Ztalin

    @Ztalin

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@manicmotox4214 whats the fun in that?!

  • @David-hm9ic
    @David-hm9ic7 ай бұрын

    Your videos ROCK. I have no expectation of ever running CNC machines because virtually everything I do is a one-off. The benefit is that the basic challenges between manual and CNC machining are identical. Every successful project starts with a good reference point and that is, IMO, one of the Haas Automation video strengths.

  • @MikeTimokhin
    @MikeTimokhin5 жыл бұрын

    This is the best explanation so far on youtube. I've watched many. You guys rock!

  • @TheSMPeto32
    @TheSMPeto326 жыл бұрын

    TIP (for newbies): Initially centering the point of the indicator can be relatively complicated if the holding arm is at all offset and/or the indicator is twisted. It's rarely as quick as the video makes it seem, hence the reason he says, "Now, if this takes a little bit of time..." In my experience it's not worth the time and can be a total pain! Instead and before using your indicator, put something round into your chuck (preferably with a point) to locate the hole by eye. Personally I use a 3/8" drill blank, with a 45 degree point ground onto the end, but anything will work (chamfer tool, dowel pin, etc.).. Will get you VERY close before indicating, trust me!

  • @KARLOS121

    @KARLOS121

    Жыл бұрын

    I would use a spiral pointed tap in my drill chuck, works great. Nicer point than a drill

  • @TheSMPeto32

    @TheSMPeto32

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KARLOS121 a drill blank is just a rod with no flutes, etc...

  • @indubitably424

    @indubitably424

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm about a month in as machinist ( all manual). I have been relying heavily on using an edge finder to locate because I can never get my indicator tip to line up on center and then rotate around a small diameter like a 3/8 pin. This sounds like what I need to try. Thank you.

  • @charrontheboatman
    @charrontheboatman6 жыл бұрын

    HI all and Happy New Year! These CNC Videos are of great help to me even though I am not yet proficient enough of a machinist to be working in CNC Thanks for keeping up with the simple stuff!

  • @craigburton665
    @craigburton6654 жыл бұрын

    thank you Mark, and Haas Automatons for the very helpful tip of the day videos. I watch every chance I get.

  • @tj9382
    @tj93827 жыл бұрын

    I love these tip of the day vids, keep up the good work guys 👍

  • @rickys845
    @rickys845 Жыл бұрын

    This dudes a legend so greatful for every upload makes things so simple

  • @yianni3251
    @yianni32513 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for these videos Haas! Love Mark!

  • @davidbutler9014
    @davidbutler90145 жыл бұрын

    I just got my first coax indicator and it is the best indicator of any type that I have ever used.

  • @stjohnsriverrat7161
    @stjohnsriverrat71616 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, Simple and straight forward.

  • @sain9851
    @sain98517 жыл бұрын

    I seen it thrice, I felt that in my heart when you crashed it. Finally a good caution and note! Thanks to Mark from Haas

  • @thiagocruzy
    @thiagocruzy5 жыл бұрын

    Just learnt a years worth of information in 7 minutes. Love love love this channel

  • @spezkay81

    @spezkay81

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thiago Cruz a year? What? Where did u learn to machine? I learned all this my first week.

  • @Moncriefs
    @Moncriefs3 жыл бұрын

    i dont know shit about machining but i sat and watched this entire video for some reason

  • @arabiccola
    @arabiccola7 ай бұрын

    Happy New Year! and to that indicator that was crushed in the making of this video, it was well worth it!

  • @Deezputts1
    @Deezputts16 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, great refresher to look at from time to time.. and yes the indicator crash had me in stitches too

  • @90fordb2
    @90fordb26 жыл бұрын

    This is a very informative video for someone that is new to the trade, it's pretty much everything I would tell a new person in the milling dept, except I don't smash indicators on purpose. It is good to show what happens though for someone who has never experienced that happening. It's not pretty.

  • @spkrman15
    @spkrman157 жыл бұрын

    Loved the cracked mirror. Great video guys. It is because of these videos i bought a Haas.

  • @haasautomation

    @haasautomation

    7 жыл бұрын

    That's great to hear Rob. We hope these videos are helping machinists and shop owners around the world with the problems they run into every day. And when they help prospective owners decide that a Haas might be their best machine tool choice, that's a great result as well.

  • @BartZudell
    @BartZudell5 жыл бұрын

    I don't have a Haas but this was EXACTLY what I was looking for. No hype just good info. THANKS!

  • @raymendez2127
    @raymendez21277 жыл бұрын

    That crash made me jump! Goodness, that really hurts!

  • @haasautomation

    @haasautomation

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to give you a scare Ray! The tool used in the video was an already-broken indicator from Mark's private stash, which allowed us to illustrate the point without damaging a working indicator.

  • @andresjim6490

    @andresjim6490

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha me too jump :D

  • @chadkrause6574
    @chadkrause65747 жыл бұрын

    That crash almost made a grown man cry

  • @Iceberg86300

    @Iceberg86300

    7 жыл бұрын

    Chad Krause seriously! Oddly I was just poking around long island indicator today and saw that my compac is now up to just shy of $300. I would have been bawling if that was in the machine!!!!

  • @haasautomation

    @haasautomation

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to cause you grief Chad! The tool used in the video was an already-broken indicator from Mark's private stash, which allowed us to illustrate the point without damaging a working indicator.

  • @muellermaxwell

    @muellermaxwell

    7 жыл бұрын

    i yelled in agony! haha

  • @hansmeyer7520

    @hansmeyer7520

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice Video !

  • @4DIYers

    @4DIYers

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol, glad I wasn't the only one feeling that. My heart just dropped when I saw that!

  • @tonypeng7829
    @tonypeng78292 жыл бұрын

    That looks great, I really like it.

  • @harwentrejo7727
    @harwentrejo7727 Жыл бұрын

    Good explanations. Good job.

  • @thevacuumtubejunky9774
    @thevacuumtubejunky97746 жыл бұрын

    Great demonstration. I learned a lot quite quickly. Thank you very much. Kind regards, Eric Dee

  • @jackflash6377
    @jackflash63777 жыл бұрын

    The more of these tips I watch, the happier I am with my purchase of my HAAS mill & lathe.

  • @haroldcook2146
    @haroldcook21463 жыл бұрын

    Excellent tip. Thanks very much!

  • @kevincameron4332
    @kevincameron43323 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the very practical info

  • @haasautomation
    @haasautomation7 жыл бұрын

    Hey everyone! A viewer just showed me a magnetic edge finder tool that helps you indicate the edge or corner of a part easily, even if the block is at a funny angle. These are terrific, I need one for my toolbox! Check them out and never stop learning! -Mark, Haas Tip of the Day www.swissprec.com/cgi/ISSRIT2?pmaka=98-337-9&pmctlg=01%26%2365533%3B www.jtsmach.com/jtswebshop/Measuring/PM482.asp

  • @julianlopez9123

    @julianlopez9123

    7 жыл бұрын

    Haas Automation, Inc. How do I utilize the magnetic edge finder?

  • @jimszabo1239

    @jimszabo1239

    4 жыл бұрын

    If your talking about the Machinist Chair? The company ampg.com is the manufactor of them.. check their page out as they have alot of unique goodies. I found another indicator holder like the stick one that alot of the guys with interapids use. It is made by pmir.com locally to me here in Cleveland,Ohio.. A older gentleman who ran boring mills came up with it. He has them in 1/2", and 3/8" shank. He wants about $50.00 For either one. I bought both. I add the links or take them out to make for a shorty or long length for the tasks I need. Best part is it is more stought and can hold the import indicators and Interapids for almost any regular task

  • @luckyphelps8711

    @luckyphelps8711

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would add setting the spindle to a low RPM prior to attaching your indicator. "S100 M3" has never shot my indicator across the room. Accidentally starting one at 1500 or so is instant death. When I was just starting out the shop I worked at bought us all new mititoyo indicators. My boss, one of the owners, started the spindle and before he would even say "oh sh. " My indi was scattered. I still have the body. And the indicol is still in use damn near daily. Good series though.

  • @mikhailmalamud9867
    @mikhailmalamud98672 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video. This method can also be used for testing probe accuracy by comparing center located with dial indicator and center located with probe.

  • @bikramthakulla8136

    @bikramthakulla8136

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @arunpools
    @arunpools8 ай бұрын

    My heart skipped a beat when the indicator crashed!

  • @matejkuka797
    @matejkuka7972 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos guys because with your videos my job is more fun :)

  • @ThePointlessBox_
    @ThePointlessBox_5 жыл бұрын

    that indicator crash tore out a piece of my soul holy shit

  • @lecappel3916
    @lecappel39167 жыл бұрын

    Ola Mark. Excelente vídeo, mostrou alternativas que eu não conhecia sobre centragem. Um dos maiores motivos de problemas em usinagem. abraço Le

  • @Dubconnectgang
    @Dubconnectgang5 жыл бұрын

    This has been very helpful!

  • @dhanreejsingh6499
    @dhanreejsingh64992 жыл бұрын

    Very knowledgeable videos. Great work

  • @erikcline2826
    @erikcline28267 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Video! I don't know why I even went through an apprenticeship when I could have just watched these videos. One thing to note though is that, with a lot of indicators, changing the travel direction causes a difference in readings. Play I guess. This really only counts in super close tolerance work, but it's still good to know.

  • @haasautomation

    @haasautomation

    7 жыл бұрын

    Erik - Thanks for the comment. If you have any suggestions for new TOD videos, send them our way, TOD@haascnc.com. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day

  • @lifeinsurance4495
    @lifeinsurance44957 жыл бұрын

    I love haas machines especially the vf1 and the tl1

  • @fabiostaffoni4435
    @fabiostaffoni44352 жыл бұрын

    Very Very interesting. Good indications for a good work

  • @EZ_shop
    @EZ_shop7 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful Bro!

  • @llem346
    @llem3464 жыл бұрын

    Очень наглядная и доступная подача информации. Замечательное видео.

  • @volkankandemir5108
    @volkankandemir510810 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @MaquinerosCNC
    @MaquinerosCNC4 жыл бұрын

    you are awesome! thanks for all the videos

  • @dragonflyfab8982
    @dragonflyfab89827 жыл бұрын

    Mark, you are brutal! Not even a moment of silence for the dead indicator!

  • @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide
    @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide2 жыл бұрын

    Archief that ondicator breacking , it literaly Hurted me , an the small sidenote in the corner of screen , pure genius ! ..lol Gtrs from the Netherlands Johny geerts Grts from the netherlands

  • @businessindustrialnetwork2038
    @businessindustrialnetwork20387 жыл бұрын

    Great job. Thanks

  • @inund8
    @inund86 жыл бұрын

    amazing video!

  • @proventure307
    @proventure3074 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Mark you are better than my chef in the factory.. i better learn from you.

  • @cwhuffman01
    @cwhuffman017 жыл бұрын

    These tips are handy for me, as both of our Haas mills at school do not have Probes. Thanks!

  • @haasautomation

    @haasautomation

    7 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome Christopher! Thanks for the comment!

  • @vishalsutar2422
    @vishalsutar24225 жыл бұрын

    Very awesome Gaidens

  • @PP-ck4nm
    @PP-ck4nm5 жыл бұрын

    Very good!

  • @amritpalsingh-rr3xq
    @amritpalsingh-rr3xq7 жыл бұрын

    It 's giving very good knowlege

  • @himanshupandey6183
    @himanshupandey61835 жыл бұрын

    Thnx sir for sharing this information..🤗🤗

  • @chrischalabi
    @chrischalabi7 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Can you do one on the basics of a probe and how to use it? Thanks, -Chris

  • @garybouchard3587
    @garybouchard35877 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @wground3130
    @wground31307 жыл бұрын

    I broke Renishaw thus, as shown in the 07:42 minute. DDD well, that only the probe and not the entire measuring holder. Pretty good advice, especially for beginners

  • @jaspreetsinghsidhu9500
    @jaspreetsinghsidhu95006 жыл бұрын

    thnks buddy it was very helpful

  • @clemenceronald
    @clemenceronald5 жыл бұрын

    OMD! That indicator crash made me jump off my chair!! Nice video as usual minus the crash of course =))

  • @Cedwig234
    @Cedwig2346 жыл бұрын

    this is awesome

  • @thotaphanindra1432
    @thotaphanindra14327 жыл бұрын

    great videos sir....please make videos on cutting speeds and feeds, programming

  • @valkai-wd5eb
    @valkai-wd5eb2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @GurdevSingh-cx6tv
    @GurdevSingh-cx6tv6 жыл бұрын

    Good information thanks sir

  • @CHRISSHERRON21
    @CHRISSHERRON215 жыл бұрын

    Good Videos thank you.

  • @mechmotion
    @mechmotion7 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video. One tip on the Co-Axis indicator. They sometimes will not read on center due to run out in the holder, so it's a good idea to double check them against a typical indicator. I've got a few non working indicators if you need them for future videos. :-p

  • @kentvandervelden
    @kentvandervelden7 жыл бұрын

    Argh, how about a warning of graphical content next time? 2:38 :)

  • @haasautomation

    @haasautomation

    7 жыл бұрын

    We like the idea Kent, thanks! Sorry to give you a scare. Rest easy, the tool used in the video was an already-broken indicator from Mark's private stash, which allowed us to illustrate the point without damaging a working indicator.

  • @BrianMDPhD

    @BrianMDPhD

    7 жыл бұрын

    Kent VanderVelden Right!? What horror!

  • @lankysapien3032

    @lankysapien3032

    7 жыл бұрын

    Or a trigger warning or something. I'm having nightmares tonight!

  • @madswinebbq

    @madswinebbq

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kent VanderVelden In real life there is no warning when you crash! Just shame and everyone gathering around saying "what happened?". 🤣🤣🤣

  • @thiagocruzy

    @thiagocruzy

    5 жыл бұрын

    cringe worthy yikes!

  • @dwivedisachin06
    @dwivedisachin066 жыл бұрын

    thanks this video is fully help me

  • @bennyfrausto3762
    @bennyfrausto37625 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very helpfull video

  • @user-tc2ky6fg2o
    @user-tc2ky6fg2o6 жыл бұрын

    It really did hurt at the crash. First in stomach then the pain went up to my heart. My brain did not work.

  • @SpencerWebb
    @SpencerWebb7 жыл бұрын

    I think you guys should do several Haas TOTD segments at and with NYC CNC (John Saunders), entitled "Tips for brand new Haas owners". I think it would really work well, and pull in many prospects for new machines. You're welcome. :-) -S (...a happy TL-1 owner)

  • @denismorend3884
    @denismorend38845 жыл бұрын

    Hello, put in G54 annd G55 two differentzeros to make the same piece in different reference points, I did it a while ago in Dewoo 4020 vertical machining center, and I used a Pycock tracer, I see that you use the Z+ for anything the encoder is in a mayor advance , the concentration is paramount and avoid being distracted by third parties, excellent quality of work, naw in another company Iam in charge of center HAAS VF6/50., very good machine, congratulation. Best regards Denis Morend.

  • @ShubhamPatil-wz1hv
    @ShubhamPatil-wz1hv6 жыл бұрын

    It's very useful

  • @djunikawalujo7328
    @djunikawalujo73285 жыл бұрын

    Good Haas, Thanks. I wait Your Video. Good... Good

  • @jimszabo1239
    @jimszabo12394 жыл бұрын

    On the long stem Mitutoyo 513 series indicator. Get the swivel stem attachment for it. It is the best investment

  • @j.thirumalaimech7430
    @j.thirumalaimech74302 жыл бұрын

    That is the great video some help ful And how to set down dial centre orgin

  • @danield4871
    @danield48713 жыл бұрын

    I remember when I had problems with this, never thought I’d ever get it. Now it takes me seconds. Lol 😂

  • @markterryberry4477

    @markterryberry4477

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is so very true. Same thing with making a vise straight.

  • @davidjj8027
    @davidjj80273 жыл бұрын

    Smart method

  • @AshersVids
    @AshersVids4 жыл бұрын

    I like to put a pin in a tool holder or just line up a tool that is close to the diameter of the hole to speed up the eyeballing. I get much closer to center before I even start indicating.

  • @RavindraKumar-fe1yx
    @RavindraKumar-fe1yx5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks sir

  • @reshnurenu2932
    @reshnurenu29324 жыл бұрын

    Thankss

  • @timmallard5360
    @timmallard53607 жыл бұрын

    I pooped myself too but the saw the black dial face and knew it was a cheapo-depo. Really like the tip to eyeball the center line at the beginning. The indicator never lies and will save you sanity of the probe is on the fritz.

  • @ydna

    @ydna

    7 жыл бұрын

    look again, that was a Brown and Sharpe Besttest!

  • @timmallard5360

    @timmallard5360

    7 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Ydna DuBuc Ill be dammed your right! I guess Hass needed to create an accurate simulation i guess. Then again a Chinese knock off isn't even even aloud in the parking lot at Hass

  • @yalgret

    @yalgret

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@highstreetkillers4377 what's best in your opinion, Mazak?

  • @andresjim6490
    @andresjim64904 жыл бұрын

    2:38 haha it hurts, thanks again and keep up the good work.

  • @mateoarv
    @mateoarv7 жыл бұрын

    Excelent video as always! Thanks!

  • @haasautomation

    @haasautomation

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the positive comment Mateo!

  • @TheHalloweenmasks
    @TheHalloweenmasks2 жыл бұрын

    Is there a name for the DTI stand that you use in this video? I need one of these.

  • @frankg521
    @frankg5217 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a link for these indicators you used here

  • @deepfryguy2013
    @deepfryguy20135 жыл бұрын

    I actually gasped at 2:40. Gave me a heart attack.

  • @phillefever1934
    @phillefever19347 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for subjecting us all to 2:38

  • @RajendraSingh-mn5cu
    @RajendraSingh-mn5cu5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks dear sir....

  • @jeffryblackmon4846
    @jeffryblackmon48465 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @Zaku186
    @Zaku1866 жыл бұрын

    That crash hurt me. and it took me a while to get over it. even had to rewind to just after it to hear what you said.

  • @rykkuuu
    @rykkuuu Жыл бұрын

    does anyone know the name of the arm extension he using for the vertical indicator?

  • @machinist7230
    @machinist72303 жыл бұрын

    I've found that if .001 is good enough for location, a Blake Co-Ax is the fastest way to find the hole. If you need better accuracy, then switching to a tenth reading indicator will do nicely.

  • @Wat-Dat

    @Wat-Dat

    2 жыл бұрын

    This man speaks the truth. My coaxial indicator is the most useful tool in my box. And only $80 on ebay for a cheap one.

  • @fattyinger
    @fattyinger7 жыл бұрын

    Almost crap myself when you broke that indicator :))))))

  • @haasautomation

    @haasautomation

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to give you a scare! The tool used in the video was an already-broken indicator from Mark's private stash, which allowed us to illustrate the point without damaging a working indicator.

  • @fattyinger

    @fattyinger

    7 жыл бұрын

    Just you know how you react when you broke a tool... I literally felt like that :)))

  • @madeariartha2546
    @madeariartha25465 жыл бұрын

    Those various indicators are so beautiful, bcoz i only have one for all purposes

  • @nasaeagle
    @nasaeagle Жыл бұрын

    That indicator crashing was a jumpscare. Laying down in bed watching this and jumped 😂.

  • @steveb936
    @steveb936 Жыл бұрын

    @6:13 what does he say, I cant understand him, sound like, "I really klike palywith, this is a 3/8s sensor" ? Thanks

  • @luckyphelps8711
    @luckyphelps87112 жыл бұрын

    Another tip. Before ya got your hundred and fifty dollar indicator in the spindle, run "S100M3" to prevent an accidental spindle start from flinging your indicator across the room. Don't sit there and think it can't happen. True story. I worked at a shop in Fremont CA. We had a good year. Ownership bought us all mititoyo indicators. My boss, one if the owners, accidentally started the spindle which was set pretty fast and shot my two month old indicator across the shop. I was new so I just quietly said damn. He bought a new one, but the lesson is, if the spindle doesn't go fast, it can't fling your tool.

  • @marley589
    @marley5892 жыл бұрын

    How do you ensure that the indicator is truly vertical using a round spigot mount?

  • @prave455
    @prave4555 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @kevinking5406
    @kevinking54064 жыл бұрын

    I spit my coffee when that indicator cra$hed. Good video. Learned to indicate with a coaxial. Never used a vertical for picking up a hole. (Yes I am ashamed)

  • @combatbeasty45
    @combatbeasty455 жыл бұрын

    What is the name of the holder he is using to hold the interapid indicator?

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