How To Make Refractory Fire Bricks For A Forge Or Foundry

These bricks are designed to be highly thermally insulative which they achieve by holding small pockets of air via the perlite and vermiculite.
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  • @mosaquatics1802
    @mosaquatics18024 жыл бұрын

    This is the type of videos needed when you're looking for something specific. Short, concise, to the point. Great stuff.

  • @jamescopeland5358

    @jamescopeland5358

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen

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    2 жыл бұрын

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    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @Felix199393
    @Felix1993933 жыл бұрын

    I love how the video just starts, instantly comes to the point and then has a few good infos if you want to keep watching instead of making you search for relevant stuff in a 45 minute episode of needless words. It's perfect

  • @tommaika9121
    @tommaika91214 жыл бұрын

    Tip: if your mixture is sticking inside your wooden form, soak the form in water for about 15 min first brick produced, and after tamping, the wooden form will slide right up for you. If you introduce wet brick mortar to a dry wooden form,, the wet mortar will create a suction and adhesion process by default since your mortar is touching dry wood. After the first brick slides out of your Pre-wetted wooden form, you will dip your form for only a few seconds in the water bath to make it ready for the second batch of mortar forming a brick.

  • @joshuagardner5580

    @joshuagardner5580

    Жыл бұрын

    paint oil on the inside wall of forms. Oil prevents the wood from absorbing moisture, and prevents mix from sticking to wood.

  • @robking5896
    @robking58965 жыл бұрын

    I've watched a lot of these videos and this is easily the most useful. Covered the important things, didn't leave anything out, recipe is clear, proof at the end, suggestions for further improvement included. Great work. Keep making videos. Thanks, Rob

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot Rob, means a lot.

  • @levicampbell1819
    @levicampbell18193 жыл бұрын

    Finally! A video that actually tells you the different ingredients to use! I've been looking for days. Thank you!

  • @zeroclout6306
    @zeroclout63064 жыл бұрын

    Your delivery on this video was top notch. 10/10

  • @duanesharon
    @duanesharon2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely much appreciated. I am needing to make a few changes of what I have going on myself glad to have come across this.

  • @martynkendrick9813
    @martynkendrick98133 жыл бұрын

    Great persuasive test. i'm convinced and going to follow recipe for my builds

  • @gregoryfoscato2572
    @gregoryfoscato25723 ай бұрын

    C clamp across the longer wood pcs. Thanks for sharing that mixture, I can't wait to try it! Nice job!

  • @beanoneya
    @beanoneya2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I appreciate how concise you are!

  • @UlissesNalone
    @UlissesNalone11 ай бұрын

    the best video on the subject. Congrats. Simple str8 to the point

  • @christopherwilliamson8403
    @christopherwilliamson84032 жыл бұрын

    I did something similar, When making the form I wrapped it in clear box tape. This made it much easier to lift the form from the brick without it sticking to the wood. I found that the water from the mixture soaks into the wood and sticks to the sides making it difficult to lift.

  • @butterfliesandtape
    @butterfliesandtape3 жыл бұрын

    very informative and to the point. thank you, sir!

  • @-FILTHYBEAST-
    @-FILTHYBEAST- Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, out of all the videos I have watched your's is the easiest to understand.

  • @dallaspilotcar9293
    @dallaspilotcar92934 жыл бұрын

    how are the bricks holding up? have you improved on the ratios or formula? These bricks are not expensive to make but, if you try to buy them, they cost a lot

  • @Kurokubi
    @Kurokubi4 жыл бұрын

    I'd imagine they'd work quite well for solid fuel forges and would work even better as a gas forge if you lined it with a small layer of castable refractory cement, maybe replace the cement with powdered clay.

  • @jaxwylde2139
    @jaxwylde21392 жыл бұрын

    For easier removal of the form, you can use regular wood clamps (one or two clamps across each narrow end of the form). It'll take seconds to clamp the form together, and just as long to loosen the clamps after whatever waiting period you decide to use. You can also wrap the long ends in cling-wrap, if sticking to the from is an issue. Someone else may have already mentioned this, but I only read a few pages of top comments and didn't see that suggestion.

  • @fbpliegorrivero8869
    @fbpliegorrivero88693 жыл бұрын

    Very informative, thanks so much.

  • @horacerumpole6912
    @horacerumpole6912 Жыл бұрын

    Good job-concise and to the bull point

  • @franciscomendes2448
    @franciscomendes2448Ай бұрын

    Excellent. Thank you.

  • @BigHat83
    @BigHat833 жыл бұрын

    Dust your form with wood ash each time, before putting in the mix. It will act as a releasing agent

  • @luciusirving5926

    @luciusirving5926

    3 жыл бұрын

    The old potter trick.

  • @robertgranberg6018

    @robertgranberg6018

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or use Palm oil/soya oil on the walks inside the concreteform like proffesonal does, before putting in the concrete mix=Nema problema

  • @xander9564
    @xander956426 күн бұрын

    Great video and clear explanation.

  • @OneCupOfCoffee204
    @OneCupOfCoffee2043 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, thanks.

  • @oneyaker
    @oneyaker3 жыл бұрын

    I would add a dash of PVA fibers, some metacaolin or bentonite clay. The mix would be more plastic and less brittle/crumbly. Also a splash of water glass (sodium silicate) makes a great refractory binding agent.

  • @kamilkobza5385

    @kamilkobza5385

    Жыл бұрын

    Ehhh doesnt PVA decompose around 300°C? Why would you put it in fire brick?

  • @oneyaker

    @oneyaker

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kamilkobza5385 For better cohesion and consistency during molding/casting as well as crack prevention/propagation during curing cycle. The outer surface would likely retain some fibers as the high temps would not permeate all the way.

  • @iasimov5960
    @iasimov59605 жыл бұрын

    Put hinges on two or three corners of the mold and a toggle latch hasp on the forth. When you want to release the brick, untoggled latch clasp and open the mold. Infinitely reusable. Also might coat the wood with paraffin.

  • @jojodisco11
    @jojodisco11 Жыл бұрын

    You're a legend thank you!!! 🤙🔥

  • @SeavaBliss
    @SeavaBliss Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @Tawheed_101
    @Tawheed_1013 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video an it was very informative

  • @smashedbyhashish
    @smashedbyhashish3 жыл бұрын

    Thanx for sharing!

  • @agustinrosso4554
    @agustinrosso4554 Жыл бұрын

    Great video!!

  • @iremcalscpala8
    @iremcalscpala8 Жыл бұрын

    many thanks for great video

  • @oroposonline
    @oroposonline3 ай бұрын

    very interesting and helpful thanks allot

  • @robertboykin1828
    @robertboykin1828 Жыл бұрын

    thank you.I was wondering about it's contents.

  • @pomodorino1766
    @pomodorino1766 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Hellsong89
    @Hellsong89 Жыл бұрын

    For rapid production there is also method of using plunger. Essentially wooden plug size that fits into mold, place the plug on top and while giving lifting force to mold pull the plunger down so it pushes evenly brick out. Also mold surface might be bit too rough so it wont slide easily. Could try painting it witch also prevent wood sucking moisture out from the bricks surface and making it weaker.

  • @carnosinehobs7759
    @carnosinehobs77594 жыл бұрын

    Just what I needed. Im trying to get an idea of how I am going to make an electric arc furnace. It needs a large firebrick.

  • @phillean
    @phillean11 ай бұрын

    Very useful, thabks

  • @Asdfbedffhdsxe345
    @Asdfbedffhdsxe345 Жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks! On another video I saw a chap cut wire wool into pieces and put that in the mix, he said it makes them make stronger

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    Жыл бұрын

    A good idea. Not sure if it will make the bricks less likely to crack, but it will definitely help hold them together longer if they do crack.

  • @iiniijewelry
    @iiniijewelry2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. To the point and not long and drawn out. To release the bricks easily. Line mold with news paper. Will burn off and help draw out moisture. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Just an idea.

  • @moonolyth
    @moonolyth4 жыл бұрын

    Very good formula for home build ... .. . For longtime use you really can't get by without using true refractory Portland cement will last a while. The mix is good perlite and vermiculite then adding the higher temp dence refractory purchased. Perhaps mixe a little water glass in and, keep it as dry as possible. No doubt you can bring regular cement to high temp for a time but won't last...only temporary. My dad used to make Portland cement quite a long time ago got sprayed by it in the arm just a spot..went right through him the guy in front of him got it in the chest and died on the spot, The hot stuff.

  • @moonolyth

    @moonolyth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @serenedreams I'm supposing there was back pressure behind the holes they were trying to clear out and some of that material spat out.

  • @texasironforge.4913
    @texasironforge.49133 жыл бұрын

    It's a really great video thank you sir what I do is IU's C clamps first I make the measurements of my wood forms and then instead of having to screw or nail the forms I just use the C clamps to hold my form and once in my bricks are hardened I just take off the seat clamps and the patterns come right off you should try some c-clamps or those type of clamps that people use for carpentry

  • @zebrabike9

    @zebrabike9

    3 жыл бұрын

    C clamps or bar clamps work perfectly .

  • @julialeslie9213

    @julialeslie9213

    2 жыл бұрын

    smart

  • @odinallfather4560
    @odinallfather45603 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @zoolkarnainpaiman4633
    @zoolkarnainpaiman4633 Жыл бұрын

    TQVM bro

  • @garyday6512
    @garyday6512 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent ☆

  • @elliottdebell7783
    @elliottdebell77835 жыл бұрын

    What a delightful voice

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    4 жыл бұрын

    Isn't very inspiring is it.

  • @wateryblaze
    @wateryblaze6 жыл бұрын

    Two or three ways around your problem... next time maybe. You suggested a hinge; yes and a clip or catch to avoid having to unscrew the form. Oil the inside of the form with either motor oil or the proprietary release agent at extra expense... nah. Motor oil works quite well. I see someone suggested Pam and I assume that it is cooking oil or release agent in aerosol form. Don't have it in New Zealand. If you put a very small taper on the mold, from top to bottom, this will also help. Push your block out the wider end using a block of wood, slightly smaller than your brick. Nothing new there, it is how plastic and metal die cast molds are made. Also make sure the inside surface is smooth or the grain runs up and down. A coat of paint will help reduce the rough surface that the mix wants to hang on to... and again, a bit of oil.

  • @GergC0521
    @GergC05214 жыл бұрын

    Might I suggest making your form from Melamine boards. They are highly slippery, no need to take apart or make a hinge

  • @phaledax3661

    @phaledax3661

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had the same first thought, Melamine boards is the way to go for concrete and brick forms.

  • @louiejayjayme8095
    @louiejayjayme80955 жыл бұрын

    nice work bro, i've been really looking for some refractory materials (trying to buy) but it's unavailable here in my country, but i found your ingredients available here, this is a very big help for me, thank you so much, i subscribed and liked keep creating informative vids like this man, your off to a great start

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for the support Louie Jay Jayme, I've been thinking of making another video but I can't think of another small project like this, definitely open to suggestions though.

  • @MASSExpedition

    @MASSExpedition

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which country is this, per chance? Very interested in tradeskills and their practices worldwide.

  • @ripno2672
    @ripno26722 жыл бұрын

    Very informative

  • @rockadoodoo
    @rockadoodoo Жыл бұрын

    Good video.

  • @carlosmehicano8052
    @carlosmehicano80523 жыл бұрын

    Hey if you see this do you think you could cast into a mould made of this, provided you ground the components up a bit first to make the surface a little finer?

  • @jamal69jackson77
    @jamal69jackson774 жыл бұрын

    You could also use cornstarch or diatomaceous earth to coat the sides of the form and make it easier for the brick to slide off.

  • @lulutileguy
    @lulutileguy4 жыл бұрын

    good job bro

  • @edkhoshaba170
    @edkhoshaba1703 жыл бұрын

    Good job

  • @nguyr
    @nguyr2 жыл бұрын

    I made these bricks recently and found them to be quite sandy and loose. Eventually they set up but are still quite crumbly and fragile. I think my sand is coarser than the video. I made a second batch I went with 9:9:3:4 "liters" of each ingredient and 1 pound of bentonite clay. The bricks set up much faster and could be moved after 1 night instead of 2-3 days. The original recipe was like a sugar cube and the modified one is ice cream cake filling 😉 Unscrewing the mold each time works fine but takes a while. I made a hinged brick form recommended in the video, only need one hinge and a latch in the opposite corner. The hinge does not move that much in the hinge corner while you're opening it so it tends to stick and pull the corner apart. I recommend knocking the form still and then opening the hinge. Great video!

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    2 жыл бұрын

    The ones from the video were a little crumbly too, but not as fragile as yours it seems. Mine got thrown out while I was away so I've decided to make some more and will revamp the recipe to address the issue, I will take your adaptation into consideration when making them. Glad you enjoyed the video, I'm planning on making a new one for the new brick design so look out for that.

  • @MetalMario137

    @MetalMario137

    Жыл бұрын

    @@makeitquick9638 Did you ever finish that brick redesign?

  • @rickfelske435
    @rickfelske4355 жыл бұрын

    When we made concrete blocks or hose foundations, we used a mixture of 50/50 diesel/hydraulic fluid sprayed on the forms. It will never stick.

  • @bitzer8115

    @bitzer8115

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some Tilers and brickies use the same method for their mixers. Light spray with diesel before use and the barrel of the mixer stays nice and clean.

  • @l0I0I0I0
    @l0I0I0I0 Жыл бұрын

    How well are the bricks holding up and how much have you used them? TY for sharing! Regular Portland cement? Can you use hydrolic high temp cement?

  • @markschweter6371
    @markschweter63716 жыл бұрын

    Alternate release method, a "slip sheet" lining inside the mould. Could be a simple as a plastic bag, compact material to fill the form, slide out brick. Also, keeping the brick wrapped while curing could help strengthen the bond by keeping the cement from drying out too fast while curing.

  • @StrokeMahEgo

    @StrokeMahEgo

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like a wax paper would be good for this

  • @beanoneya

    @beanoneya

    2 жыл бұрын

    I came here to say this, 3 years too late 😅

  • @chaz353535
    @chaz3535355 ай бұрын

    hinge on form great idea ive seen it done that way on ytube

  • @rasheedmaghrani1610
    @rasheedmaghrani16102 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your wonderful video . Even if i didnt understand that liters of water . But i understand how the mixture shoud be to make the brike . Thank you very very much .

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, The reason behind using litres was to use an easy volumetric measurement rather than weight for example, as weight could vary with sand types or wetness for example. Glad you liked it. Let me know if you'd like me to make a video on something else.

  • @anthonyd7637
    @anthonyd76374 жыл бұрын

    Is this Ben steins son? The clear eyes guy? Lol nice video. Nice quick video. Very rare lol

  • @tiaan_va
    @tiaan_va3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this awesome video. For the ratios, are the ratios based on volume or one weight?

  • @dcsensui
    @dcsensui Жыл бұрын

    If the forms are two "L" shaped pieces, they can be released without disturbing the bricks. Can keep them together with a couple of clamps until the mortar mix is compressed into the form. Release the clamps, then pull the form apart.

  • @neilmicke1622
    @neilmicke16223 жыл бұрын

    Before slip form concrete for roads, the forms were sprayed with oil. When we used wood forms, we brushed waste oil on, no sticking there but cement would stick on un-brushed wood.

  • @yewwtooob

    @yewwtooob

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wax works too

  • @kalfaxplays7899
    @kalfaxplays78993 жыл бұрын

    very interesting. would love to know how long it needed to sit before they became usable for a forge.

  • @a4fotocopias312
    @a4fotocopias3124 жыл бұрын

    Hola aca te dejo Link molde para ldrilo muy practico ! gracias por la formula refractaria !

  • @offgridcarnivore
    @offgridcarnivore2 жыл бұрын

    Good vid

  • @anomikak1062
    @anomikak10624 жыл бұрын

    what tyoe of cement did you use? 2cents: Put a plastic garbage bag over the mold and press it down inside. can be used to cover the brick right after pouring and used to lift the brick out the next day.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 Жыл бұрын

    Hey mate it's 4 years later. Are the bricks still ok? Store bought refractory bricks are super expensive I would love to make them myself. I wonder how well these would go if made in one of those compressed Earth brick machines?

  • @Valkrss
    @Valkrss Жыл бұрын

    I know this is a really old video and you've probably been told this or figured it out by now. Ensuring a smooth form surface and applying a releasing agent like form oil would do you worlds of good.

  • @Valkrss

    @Valkrss

    Жыл бұрын

    Otherwise, I clicked this video because of the length, and you really did cover all the bases. Thanks.

  • @robertbrawley5048
    @robertbrawley50483 жыл бұрын

    Informative? You bet . And in less than 4 minutes. Typically videos of this subjec take 27 minutes. EXCELKENT presentation & top KZread award for condensed information delivery

  • @grads4954
    @grads49545 жыл бұрын

    instead of turning it into bricks, would this work for the foundry like Grant Thompson has? would this be able to be used in a metal container?

  • @brettmciver432
    @brettmciver4325 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried this with water glass? ( Sodium silicate?) If you do you can set it off quickly by forcing co2 through the brick .

  • @sailoca
    @sailoca2 жыл бұрын

    Hi there, how long do your bricks cure for, and do you bake them or heat them before first use? How do you know when they're ready?

  • @dennyofthepines1457
    @dennyofthepines14573 жыл бұрын

    Could you build the form with slightly tapered sides? It would give a lot less friction when removing the form from the material.

  • @eyesofthecervino3366
    @eyesofthecervino33663 жыл бұрын

    I know I'm late, but is this something I can just mold into an oven shape? Or does is have to be in smaller pieces to keep it from cracking?

  • @thewordmadeflesh
    @thewordmadeflesh4 жыл бұрын

    Did you use water at all or just mix the ingredients with no water?

  • @R3dp055um
    @R3dp055um Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I *personally* wouldn't opt for this formula because perlite is mostly silicon, and I'm paranoid about silicosis.

  • @luciusirving5926
    @luciusirving59263 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if it's possible to use foaming agents for aircrete to turn pottery clay into refractory bricks. Refractory bricks do have to be lighter than generic bricks from hardware stores.

  • @punkeasy
    @punkeasy3 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video. But just one question, Is there a reason to use both vermiculite and pearlite. Rather than just one or.

  • @cresilverin2074
    @cresilverin2074 Жыл бұрын

    This video helps alot but I have some odd questions. I know the video is super old but I'm curious if this mixture can hold up to bigger sizes? For instance, if I wanted to take a 12 gallon bucket and fill it half way with this stuff, then press in a 6 gallon bucket to make a hole, would the resulting cast of this be strong enough to hold a lid of the same materials? I will prolly be trying this method despite the potential cost risks unless someone with more knowledge can convince me it's a bad idea

  • @tonypower5625
    @tonypower56252 жыл бұрын

    Good job my friend. I have a question ...if I make your formula I guess I can cover the inside of my future metal forging unit....There are people that uses plaster of Paris...instead of Portland cement...do you see any value on that???

  • @shakeelmohideen7172
    @shakeelmohideen71723 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant..well and professionally lectured

  • @richardmccann4815
    @richardmccann48152 жыл бұрын

    Hope you are well, I was wondering about the molten copper and what you were making with it. Hope you get back to making videos soon. I wonder about adding sodium silicate to the mix for additional strength. Great video, cheers!

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was making a casting of a trilobite fossil casting. Sodium silicate/water glass would be a good addition as a high temperature resistant 'glue' (I was thinking about making a new set of bricks with that implemented actually) I have recently started to make videos again (though admittedly they need a lot of work), let me know what sort of thing you might be interested in seeing. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks

  • @yewwtooob
    @yewwtooob2 жыл бұрын

    Nice. But...how much heat can they take and for how LONG? Also, did you use any stainless steel inside as rebar? Thanks.

  • @carlschmiedeke151
    @carlschmiedeke1512 жыл бұрын

    But do they become powdery after awhile, or do they stay as hard after a year or so or do they fall apart

  • @MickeyD2012
    @MickeyD20124 жыл бұрын

    This is how educational videos are made. Thank you very much.

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @sonjaaltun472
    @sonjaaltun472 Жыл бұрын

    Do you think this type of brick would be fine to use in a masonry cookstove as the insulating material?

  • @QF756
    @QF7562 жыл бұрын

    Wealth of information 🙏

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I have a few more videos up now (though they are a slightly different genre), let me know if you've like me to make a video about anything else.

  • @kevinharvey6214
    @kevinharvey62145 ай бұрын

    Wd40 on sides of form helps stopping it stick to the form; watching concrete pour videos as i am exciting

  • @andrewbenoit5208
    @andrewbenoit52083 жыл бұрын

    But how long should they sit and cure??? What if you also added white plaster to the mix to maybe help with their strength?

  • @paulvanhouts3365
    @paulvanhouts3365 Жыл бұрын

    I think hinges work better, use a hasp and staple like closure when setting the form. What do you think?

  • @micro963
    @micro9632 жыл бұрын

    Very good thank you for sharing👍👍👍would these bricks work for a pizza oven? Would it be food safe?

  • @watahyahknow
    @watahyahknow Жыл бұрын

    maibe make the form with a slight taper same as you would with the mould for casting metal once it starts lifting the walls move away from the brick instead of sliding up on its sides , might allso help to make sumting along the top edge of the mould to make the top edges less sharp

  • @auttocarcom
    @auttocarcom4 жыл бұрын

    Hi is that normal Cement? or refractory cement? Thanks

  • @nebula4833
    @nebula48334 жыл бұрын

    Time to subscribe

  • @adrianlanga5402
    @adrianlanga54023 жыл бұрын

    Do you think these would work for the construction of a pizza oven ? How could I make them smooth finish on one side??

  • @Nick-nk2iq
    @Nick-nk2iq4 жыл бұрын

    Hi there, I am looking to make these bricks but unsure what size the perlite and vermiculite needs to be. I found a bag of 50/50 perlite-vermiculite at 0.14 and 3 millimeters, is this too coarse?

  • @Made2hack
    @Made2hack5 жыл бұрын

    Hey, good stuff. You should consider making more videos!

  • @makeitquick9638

    @makeitquick9638

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Made 2 Hack, I'd like to try filming another small project, I can't think of anything right now though, definitely open to suggestions.

  • @Made2hack

    @Made2hack

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, what about making the foundry? Or a crucible? Or just melting stuff. People love seeing that. I don't really know what you are into. @@makeitquick9638

  • @patrickbutterfield8761

    @patrickbutterfield8761

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Made2hack I will be making a new set of bricks soon and plan on making an actual forge/foundry rather than just cobbling something together like what you saw in this video when I feel like doing casting or forging. I'll try filming that and we'll see how it turns out. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @stanleyjaxen8759
    @stanleyjaxen87593 жыл бұрын

    with concrete wont the lime break down with heat?