Animal manure (particularly poultry manure) can easily be left to dry and when the manure has begun to turn white and yellow it can be leeched for nitrates using hot water, some hardwood ash and a couple of cloth filters. Then simply let the leeched liquid evaporate (you can also boil it off) to get your product. It is less time and labor intensive and can be done a few times a year depending on the climate where you live. Keep up the good work!

@daxadventure

2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see a video on that

@sion8849

Жыл бұрын

Wait... So you would just let the poultry manure sit and dry from the air without access to urine? Or would you add urine like you would during his process?

@CrazyIvan865

Жыл бұрын

I was actually about to ask that. I currently have chicks in cages in the living room till they're big enough to go outside and I have a rabbit that is like a eat-drink-piss-poop machine. Wondering if I could hust take the cedar bedding from both, dump it in a barrel, maybe add some urine and have that work. Also currently have 2 puppies potty training, honestly curious if I should stop wasting money on non-biodegradable puppy pads and switch to virtually free cardboard boxes instead.

@KeithBair

Жыл бұрын

@@sion8849 birds don't pee. Their urine comes out with their excrement. That is why you can use chicken manure. Bat manure from caves is even better as their manure is the same and the manure has been protected from rain washing out the nitrates

@hughezzell10000

Жыл бұрын

i've actually tried that and I dont think you have. it's nowhere close to that easy to do.

I don't know how it is in your state but in Tennessee making black powder is considered protected under the right to bear arms and the legal limit of black powder that an individual can make, use, and store is 50lbs. There are other things I've read which said that federal watch lists keep an eye out for people who buy more than 10lbs of potassium nitrate a year, but realistically there are tons of garden supply stores that will sell 25lb bags of potassium nitrate with no issues.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

I think that it is very cool that TN specifically protects the individual's right to make powder - the ATF regs do not specifically prohibit manufacture for personal use, but they do not protect it, either - leaving room for legal busybodies to play with the definition of the words "Business" and "Profit". Perhaps more States should get on board with preemptive legal language. Nitrates themselves, on the other hand are precursors to a host of beneficial chemical compounds that make modern living possible .. and keeping the knowledge of how to make them alive might be good for the survival of the species, even if we aren't using them to make Things That Go Boom.

@hibahprice6887

Жыл бұрын

You can buy a storage cell where randomly 10-20 people will put their 10 lbs of nitrate in a year, and get 100-200 lbs at a time .. Well, or buy from a person on hand, not in a store. Let's say someone bought a few tons for fertilizer ..

@SolarSeeker45

Жыл бұрын

If you're in a rural area more than likely nobody would bat an eye about ordering an entire pallet of fertilizer.

@christopherleubner6633

Жыл бұрын

Potassium nitrate isnt really watched unless it is a suspicious sale and a lot of it you might be mixing that up with ammonium nitrate. That one you got to fill out a form stating the intended use to get. 🤔

I wish you were my neighbor. You are intelligent, funny and just downright cool. .

You can greatly speed up the process if you make a slurry and aerate it well. When the pH goes low keep adding limestone. When you are ready to harvest drain and save the liquid, reduce the volume till you get some crystals forming, mix the solution with wood ashes or muriate of potash while still piping hot. Upon cooling you will get large crystals of KNO3.😊❤

@tom1store

Жыл бұрын

An aerated chicken manure and limestone slurry?

@1SmokedTurkey1

10 ай бұрын

Would this process work with natural fertilizer (store bought manure with plenty of N) and urine only? With no wood chips or straw?

Brown material is carbon bearing, it's what makes the soil black. What you actually want is more green material, like cut grass or leaves, which are much higher in nitrogen than wood. The best material wasn't harvested from under church pews, the best material was harvested from under stables. Some stables and barns were actually set up on slopes so that manure would fall out from under the barn, and the animal urine was allowed to just splash down over top of it as it was produced. This material was then removed to concentrating pits, clay lined depressions where the material was further reduced and decomposed in big piles. The material was then removed into giant pots for "washing", to remove all of the remaining carboniferous material and concentrate the nitrates.

I appreciate your authenticity

Absolutely love your spirit of independence

Great vid, thanks for the demo. Eager to see what else you got up your sleeve👍

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

We're doing a lot more gardening, a lot more permaculture (live stream lecture every Wednesday at 7pm cst) and I'm expanding the wood chip composting to 3'x3'x2' corrals, using home made liquid fertilizer to speed things up .. gotta have a lot of Organic Material to make the potting mix for the nursery business!

I like your energy dude thank you

Thanks for garden tips

I hit like, shared with friends, an subscribed an hit the bell. You had my interest when you was telling about our true history and how to make it from scratch. Great job buddy. From Sullivan Mo.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

I love tying a little history on to gardening .. and i received an education in Missouri History at Forsyth High School, in Taney County, SW MO as a kiddo .. I had great teachers 😊👍

Very enjoyable to watch

Finally got around to watching it working well Jason

Hello Jason, I was sent to you from David the Good. Love that family, looking forward to all of your knowledge

I bet you hear... "You better wash your hands!" A lot. 😂 This is interesting Jason, well done. Nice Shed Wars promo as well.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

I don't hear that as much as one might think, but .. I imagine that the next time I walk into the grocery store with dirt under my fingernails, someone is going to shove a bottle of hand sanitizer in my direction 🤣 This 3-part series began with #shedwars, and will end in #shedwars21, so it only made sense to put that plug in there.

@Jerseyhighlander

2 жыл бұрын

In 2021 the most washed body part worldwide wasn't the hands, it was the brain.

nitrifying bacteria like it in the 70f-90f range, though they do some slower work down to about 50f. Just so happens that many plants also start slow growth at 50f and peak in the 70-90f range. So if you can time the final finishing phase for 80f weather it may only take a few weeks after last application of urine rather than a few months.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

Good tip - When I did this, I was NOT paying close attention to temperatures, precise measurements, ect.

@mytech6779

2 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry your method is plenty practical. I was just talking about the ideal if somebody wanted to do high production and had the option of controlling temperature or time of year.

Brother this is one of the most excellent news

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

That barrel of compost has progressed better than I anticipated, I'm pretty excited to see how it turns out!

Potassium nitrate for preserving meat and leather is an essential, it's a shame it's been made hard to get because it is vastly cheaper and vastly superior to all the alternatives, and much less toxic too!

@hermosafish

Жыл бұрын

That's the answer. I cost more for alternatives so the cheap stuff is banned. I wonder which industry lobbyist wrote that law?

@billnyethespy3641

Жыл бұрын

yea and terrorists use ammonium nitrate that they have bought or stolen

Just a theory, but pine straw could be more efficient than wood chips because of the high nitrogen content in the pine straw. Just a thought!😊

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

Could be .. I've done this with regular straw, and have speculated on doing it with leaves as well. Anything with plenty of surface area and a high carbon content would do - I just have the ability to get all the wood chips that I can handle for free! 🤔I wonder what the final Ph would be after using pine needles - would it be effective as a Ph down amendment in addition to supplying nitrogen? The chips that I get are a mix of species, some tending more alkaline, and some more acidic .. and the Ph at the end is right around 7. If you make fertilizer using urea and pine straw, take a Ph test at the end, and let us know!

@AberrantKoala

2 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry I definitely will try that!

@CrazyIvan865

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but owning chickens presently (I need to get them some pine straw) and when I was young down in Florida where we had HUGE pine trees on out property... once or twice a year we would rake the pine needles and spread them on the driveway as a free method of covering the driveway, reducing dust and because they would keep things from growing on the driveway. They would take longer to break down, create a dense mat the intermingled with itself and they worked great for that. Also about once a month or so I'd rake a pile to put in the chickens roost where we had chicken wire from the roosting board to the back wall for half the length of the coop because the chickens LOVED it and unlike pine straw it wouldn't go everywhere, fall through the chicken wire and it wouldn't break down nearly as fast. The reason it doesn't break down as fast, and why if you leave the needles where they lie you don't have anything growing there, is because the tannins and terpenes in the pine straw act as a sprout inhibitor (infertility drug) for the ground when they rain washes through it. We had thick rich beautiful grass under the pine trees because even though the rain wash washing through the trees, it wasn't washing through the dry needles and the needles weren't working as screening to block out the light from the grass. So my question is how would the terpenes and tannins effect the process and end product. If you used it as a soil amendment would it kill the plants and inhibit growth? Or if you separated out the potassium nitrate for other uses would some of the terpene oils and alcohols come with it and act as a varnish or gum up the works?

@user-in8bz3kd7d

5 ай бұрын

​@@Green.Country.AgroforestryBrother, How to make a Shedwars21 entry video, how to, what can't be seen, your video helps me a lot, have you ever made smokeless lead gunpowder?

Thanks for waiting lol. What a great video! Awesome!

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

There is this tendency in modern civilization to expect "push button, get answer" .. so some folks just aren't happy that I am showing a biological process, and taking the full time that it takes to get to the end .. Imagine what its like for me 😁

@ResonanceHomestead

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry I totally get what you mean! That's why gardening is such a great thing- it teaches us all to slow down...or to value the cost of something we buy instead lol

Great job.

Very informative

Glad you found black powder.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

The German and Swiss made stuff is still good, though 😁

Hi Jason I enjoyed watching your video great soil of breaking down and creating soil, new friend here

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Its always good to see another OG shedwarrior :) I'm going to include part III in #shedwars21 .. and actually extract the nitrate crystals for all of the folks that really want to see what they look like. Hey- we do a livestream every Wednesday, 7PM CST, that is kind of like "come on over and hang out and visit" the way good neighbors should, only virtual .. Drop on by, click the link, and get some face time, will ya?

@TheBullsGarden

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry Ok brother will do Wed 7P

Very interesting

this is my favorite corner of the internet

Very good 👍

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 👍

Yes definetely none of the bigger channels cover anything relevant like your in depth knowledge about this

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

@AmaliePreecha

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry i saw this anime(japanese animation series) where these old japanese warriors got teleportet to a fantasy world and they made black powder with ash, urine, hay, and corpses. wanted to find some fun info of the proccess of what would happend to the bodies in the process so your expanations helped alot more than the mainstream videos, as they arent as truthfull, and more streamlined

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

@@AmaliePreecha The very first time I did this nitrification process, I used hay - and wound up getting some of the seeds scattered across the yard in the process, one of them turned out to be a bit of a problem weed for me for a few years. It worked, of course - but corpses, woohoo! Theoretically, it would work .. but I've never composted anything bigger than a possum. Breaking down meat requires some anaerobic bacteria, and some of those have the potential to make humans sick, which is at least part of why it is 'taboo' to add meat to a compost pile, BUT it does work, and it does add nitrogen.

@AmaliePreecha

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry yea i totally get the rly bad for normal heath problem. Well in the series they want to up the worlds science level by being the first to use guns as they are from the future. And I was thinking in my research if I was surviving alone somewhere. And I was left with some inedible animals or something if they would add to the production more than the wood chips or staw would. Like if I did a years in the wild challenge. It could be a thing I know no one in TV ever tried

A six foot garden gnome, your adorable and I do learn a lot. Thank You.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

How it's a good fact i can't forgot my whole life partner 😉👍🏻❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥 good luck bro for the next all video's ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Brother you the coolest

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Aww, Shucks! I've got some grow tent videos coming out over the next few weeks .. Sweet peppers, but you can translate the growing experience to any kind of green leafy plant you like😉 Of course, whether its hydro or soil, you gotta feed those plants!

This is so fun! And that's basically what the pine pellets from last year look like now. Neat! Unfortunately, it's in someone else's yard and they've become more than a bit unpleasant, so no more pee pellets for me for a while.

@razer356

2 жыл бұрын

Try spraying with em1, it should kill the smell, and it is all-natural, a weaker version can be made at home!

@lisakukla459

2 жыл бұрын

@@razer356 Oh, haha! I meant the person whose yard it was in had become unpleasant, and I wouldn't be going over there anymore. I've got my own barrel going now. I'm very excited to see the results!

@thinkingimpaired5663

2 жыл бұрын

I just read your comment. I believe there's a wood pellet cat litter available at the pet store. I tried it once for my cat and I didn't like the smell if I didn't change the litter on time. Your comment brought back kitty litter memories so I had to just laugh.

@lisakukla459

2 жыл бұрын

@@thinkingimpaired5663 Yes, there is! It's actually the same thing as equine bedding pellets, but the price markup is insane. I switched my cats to pellets abruptly, just to see what they'd do, and they didn't skip a beat. I was kinda shocked, but glad to have a cheaper, better smelling and compostable alternative that didn't involve strip mining like the clay stuff. I'm sorry you didn't have the same luck with it, but I know how funny cat tantrums can be. 😂

@thinkingimpaired5663

2 жыл бұрын

@@lisakukla459 I just remembered corn cob litter was the worst. It's been a while since I bought the stuff. I didn't realize clay was stripped mined. I did use the litter crystals but they are imported from China and I worried that silica dust could hurt my cat. Well I better get rest, I hope that I didn't disturb you. Goodnight.

An incredibly chatty garden gnome

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 ай бұрын

,,, ❗

@kentherapy7022

3 ай бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry ......😆

You had me at corned beef. 🙃 My barrel is almost full! I'm very excited about this project.

I like your energy

" I'm not going to be showing you how to make explosives in the backyard today"....." I will be in the front yard.... and that's tomorrow's video" hahaha

Thanks for sharing the knowledge! TKOR The King Of Randomness has a channel where he makes black powder that starts with a G. The guy has since passed. RIP!

After watching these videos last year i created some of this and finished a couple months ago.What would you think the NPK would be around? I know the nitrogen would be ridiculously high,but curious abt the others that would also be available.I am thinking of sending a sample in to see. I am using this process to make nitrified earth for garden application,very cheap and easy.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

9 ай бұрын

Phosphorous and Potassium will depend on what you use for organic matter .. If you send it in, let us know what you got!

Best intro ever ( you have reached that strange corner of the Internet)

The intro earned a sub

Thank bro ❤ from Malaysian

Turns out I have a good thing going?? I put all yard/ fruit/ bio waste into my chicken yard for scratch, try to pee on moving targets regularly, even my bird dogs try with me (it's a game for all and the hens and I love looking up at heaven), turn in the soil regulaly, with my Roto Tiller and end up with12' deep of THE EE MOST BEE UTIFUL looking and smelling black turbo charged dirt I spred around my garden once or twice a year! Mix 1:1 with potting soil too for potting or planting any plants, WOW! And I'm just a city boy zoned agricultural 10 miles from LA city hall, I never knew? Glad I found your show! Thanks again!

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Chickens do a fine job of processing table scraps and yard waste. Let's see .. ten miles from city hall, but still zoned for agriculture .. that sounds like the hills. I never did get out that way much when I was stationed at Long Beach.

@richarddixson1971

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry I am 20 minites from a wet boat in longbeach harbor! LOVE the ocean out there! Did it very regularly, 5 am at the bait barge next to the break wall. Thanks again!

Did you make a follow up video to this one? If so could you link it here? I’ve looked but couldn’t find one.

i know this guy. i cut a tree down for him. He taught me about mercury fulminate. he normally wears and old old vintage walker colt revolver from the 1850s that still uses the cap and ball style.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

10 ай бұрын

Only on range days, Hadge 😁 Mary and I have both started using the Taurus G3C for EDC .. but the cap and ball is still fun to shoot when you aren't expecting a fire fight. How have Ya Been?

dude we want to know how black powder was made historically in the old west... the refining was definitely a part of it. cant believe how difficult it is just to see someone do this. though your videos have been quite useful regardless.

@eddiealbritton2462

2 жыл бұрын

75% potassium 15 % charcoal 10% sulfur I believe?? Don't blow yourself up! Just found it on KZread

@throughmylens5127

Жыл бұрын

TKOR went to jail for his KZread channel experiments

@BonaFideWildLife

Жыл бұрын

@@eddiealbritton2462 Close! According to TKOR it's 75% Charcoal/ 15% Nitrate/ 10% Sulfur. I knew he passed away but didn't know he went to jail for these experiments.

@ChrisGilliamOffGrid

Жыл бұрын

@@throughmylens5127 Who? There's a ton of BP making vids on KZread, and many forums have threads on it. Everything is easy to buy, and the info is everywhere.

Best into ever

direct them to that old Star trek episode. Captain Kirk and the lizard man. But I didn't say that. lol Is Mary back on the road? Stay safe Mary.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

Жыл бұрын

She's been struggling with mechanical issues .. in the second 'loaner' truck in as many months. Finding parts to keep the rigs running might be harder than finding diesel to fill 'em up with before too long. At least we haven't had to fight any Gorn in the back yard 😉

I've done a few remodeling jobs and I ended with many pounds of saw dust, mostly from pine 2x4's, but some other things as well. I know that crap can be used to make shit like particle board. But since it's mostly pine if it would be a problem using the saw dust in this process? (with other things mixed in from the yard of course.) Perhaps the pine oil would be a problem, but I just don't know.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Sawdust should work fine, even if its pine (oo hey, that rhymed!) You just need lots of surface area to hold moisture and allow those bacteria to do their work.

@philippesabourin9026

3 жыл бұрын

Sir !! You don't have to look very hard on the internet to look for how to make potassium nitrate or ammonium nitrate even how to make some other goodies but ain't saying it cause they might take it out but good luck and have a good one !!

Well, that does explain the black pillars in my compost heap Ha, and people said I don't know what I'm talking about.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Yep .. nothing quite like good black dirt for the garden 👍

You should search muntz & laine they made the most effizent natural nitrating facility. they used peat moos , or peat. its 100 times more active than any other soil for natural nitrification. they could make 5kg nitrate dayly .

You can also use it for precious metal extraction and refinement

Ok, I forgot why you said you don't want Fungus in your fertilizer?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

I might not have stated it explicitly .. but here you go: Fungi and bacteria are natural enemies .. as a matter of fact, the best antibiotics come FROM fungi .. I wanted some specific strains of bacteria to aid with the conversion of the components of urine into nitrates, so having fungi growing wild in the barrel would have retarded the process. Both Fungi AND bacteria do a good job of breaking down organic matter, but it seems that the fungi do it a bit slower. My mushroom beds where I have oyster and wine cap mushrooms growing will produce fine humus material as well .. but the trade off that comes along with getting all of those tasty mushrooms is a slower rate of decomposition. A good, healthy finished soil will have both fungi and beneficial microbes present.

I have some rabbit pellets under my cages that turn white on the outside. I always thought they were mold. Do you think it can be nitrate crystals as the nitrate is drawn to the surface and the air dries it out?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

could be - probably mixed with other salts as well

Did you put holes in the bottom of your barrel for the wiz to drain? It's been a while since watching the first video.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

the holes are there so that I could tell when I have added enough water to keep the contents moist .. adding water a little at a time, when it begins to seep out of the bottom, I know that there is enough to permit the bacteria to move about and do their work properly .. the barrel is covered the rest of the time.

😂😆🔥. .Thanks for more information 👍

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

I am gaining an appreciation for how well nitrates accelerate the decomposition of wood .. by next year, I may have the process reduced to 3 months or so .. as I learn and grow, I'll be passing along everything to you guys, who have also taught me so much 😊

11:53...cat looking at us.

Hi :) Did you ever make the 3rd episode of this series? I cant find it :( If you did make it, would you please point it out to me? Thank you for your time and yet another great vid! You Rock!

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

I did the extraction from the nitrate-enriched organic material here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rGiNrMlrkqvNicY.html and mixed some with a bit of sugar to do a burn test during a live stream here:kzread.info/dash/bejne/naGCyLipe67XYtI.html - I did the burn test twice, once early on in the video, and again at 55:57

Thanks!

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

Ай бұрын

You bet!

Do you have to mix wood ashes to it at the end of your experiment to release the salt Peter?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

There will be some wood ash involved.

If you have rabbits, you can collect the urine from under the cages and filter out the pellets.

How well do you think hardwood saw dust would be to use instead of wood chips?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

saw dust decomposes quicker .. it is fine if the only thing you are needing is nitrate. Arborist wood chips or leaves make a well rounded fertilizer - more Phosphorous, potassium, ect.

Does it matter what kind of wood chips? Is pine okay or does it have to be hardwood or is a mix okay? Thank you.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

Жыл бұрын

I'm using mixed chips everywhere!

Check out The King Of Random's video list on this platform. Grant shows exactly how to do it (assuming you already have the nitrates refined). If not, what I understand is that you soak your nitrified earth in water, drain and collect. Then evaporate. Could be wrong but check the paper dude is referencing you to

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

Tons of videos out there on making BP .. I've seen the KoR one, a few others (some nice pyro channels out there worth checking out .. especially if you want to be able to give your home made rockets color effects. File a flight plan with the FAA before launching ..) Here, we are just attempting to obtain a source of nitrified earth in the absence of a functioning supply chain .. nope, no one could have seen that coming 😉

The ATF I believe actually says you can for home use.

How about using a copper salt to ensure knocking out the fungus ? I'm thinking th a t bacteria will be less vulnerable. Then I suppose pool chlorine will kill everything ready to i troduce new colonisation. I was thinking uncolonised wood chips rather than manure . Is say horse or cow manure a good colony starter .or is good compost best .

@Preyhawk81

2 жыл бұрын

copper salt will work the nitrating bacterias are imune to heavy metals but the fungus isnt.

GOEX factory was owned by Hogdon, but has been sold...we are not sure if production will continue....

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

Given that the appropriate license would not transfer, if the new owners do not apply for an explosives license with the ATF, no more domestic blackpowder production (commercially, at least)

And the company that owns GOEX has decided to cease production of black powder. They need to find a company to take over production of GOEX. Can one use pine needles as the carbon source?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can.

These are really so interesting! Great job

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! I love me some science :)

@WildOnesHomestead

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry me too!!

Hello. When do you place the third part?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

June 6, exactly one year from when the project began. This coming year, we will also be conducting a trial for a more rapid process, using the liquid fertilizer that we made this year.

@lisakukla459

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry Omg that's so soon!!! 👏🤪

@_EllieLOL_

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry it’s June 6 :)

I don't know if this helps. When I took chemistry in high school, we made "black powder". Now, we were not told what we were making, nor were we given a strict formula. It was to show how the components go together. We took some of the powder and put it in the burners at our stations. The goal was to see if it flashed. At the end of the class, I approached our teacher and told him that I knew what we had made. The look on his face, and the stern warning not to tell any of the other students was enough to keep me quiet. The information was there in the school library (I went to school before the Internet was available.) Anyway, the point is that it is better to err on the side of caution.

Where is part III...? Would love to see the end of the process.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

Here is the extraction process video kzread.info/dash/bejne/rGiNrMlrkqvNicY.html and I did a burn test during the next live stream (close to the beginning) kzread.info/dash/bejne/naGCyLipe67XYtI.html

I'm no scientist... but could you heat the barrel to speed up the reaction?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Warming it up during the winter months would speed things along .. bacteria like to grow in temperatures between 40 and 140 F, and part of the reason the process takes as long as it does is waiting out the cooler months.

Yeah goex but good luck finding it. I live in pa where we have a huge black powder season and I can never find it because of the explosive regulations.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

I can see it .. the storage restrictions are 50lbs without the license, and there is no exception in the language for gun shops to have any extra for their customers .. so either they don't bother stocking it, or it sells out quickly.

@mikecase9365

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry I've been told that it was classified as an explosive and to sell it they needed the license and needed the proper storage container for business insurance so they no longer carry it. And the one place I found somewhat local never has it cause they get sold out faster then they can replace it

@mikecase9365

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry i was curious how the old ways got sulfer for the mix. Being its difficult to get now even in areas with it in the ground being so far in the earth.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikecase9365 Back during the Bronze age, Sulphur was mined from the vents of dormant volcanoes .. These days, they get it by drilling down to the deposits, and melting it with superheated water, then pumping it back to the surface .. something called the 'Frosch process'. We use it for gardening as well, you know - lowering ph for things like blueberries and azaleas, helping to fight fungal infections, and as a mineral supplement for alliums. GARDENING alternatives for ph down include the seed cones of alder trees, and leaf mulch from white mulberry has enough Sulphur to keep alliums happy. Mulch and attentive pruning are the best means of preventing fungal infections in our plants, controlling that excessive humidity - but in black powder, the Sulphur is there to lower the necessary ignition temperature - not so important, unless you are relying on a flint and steel to ignite it.

@mikecase9365

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry thanks I did not know it was ignition related. But for my flint lock running the powder sulfer is a key component for ignition so wasnt sure how it was retrieved during the revolutionary period. Getting saltpeter seems a process but abundant for the time but sulfer seems more of an issue. So again I'm just curious if you were aware of what they did. I do know you can retrieve it from fools gold and the table puts it as a common element so one would think there would be a creative sourcing method.

Is there a risk of spontaneous combustion of the compost in a hot desert summer?

@joshuabrown4518

Жыл бұрын

Ever seen a hay bale explode? Just so you're aware this is ultimately just a bucket of wet sticks and dirt. While it is possible for compost to spontaneously combust it would have more to do with heat and the pressure created from those vapors not escaping fast enough... Basically don't close a lid on tight and your fine

If you add banana peels to the mix, would that strengthen the potassium levels?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

8 ай бұрын

There's about 78mg of Potassium in each peel .. If you have a steady supply, that all adds up!

👍☺📚 , smarts !

In the last video you sad that they are more metods,would you do a video about them,im planing to make nitric acid

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Synthesizing nitric acid? Very cool! The other methods that I made reference to are all in LeConte's paper .. I don't have the necessary materials to duplicate some of these at the moment (one involves building a horse stable, complete with horses 😁) The LeConte paper is still searchable on google, and another version of nitrate production and extraction can be found in Foxfire, Volume 5. Yet another paper was written up and printed on handbills by the New York Committee of Safety during the American Revolution, I cannot recall the title at this moment, but it should also be searchable. Print off hard copies .. one CME event can leave us all without digital media for a very long time! Coming up this Spring, I'm working on a much larger scale production of nitrified earth, still using green waste for organic matter, but with a home made liquid fertilizer to accelerate decomposition .. With all of the trees that I'm starting for the nursery, I'm going to need a lot of potting mix, and its a lot less expensive to make my own than buy it in bags.

@thenuke4195

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you man your cool

@matheusadornidardenne8684

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry I imagine that "bulding a horse stable, complete with horses" implies in a very "shitty" method of making the nitrates, right? :P

Wow where you at in Oklahoma I'm in centeral OK just south of OKC

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

We are just West of Tulsa, just East of Sand Springs

@dthundergunb3115

2 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry that's cool I lived up north of there and tulsa for a while in green country up in Bartlesville I just thought it was awesome to see a fellow Okie on YT when you mentioned Tulsa

Thought I had you. So odd. . But anyways from RidgeLife.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

You might have, sometime before we figured out how to make subs stick by dropping a comment, Brian .. anyway, I hope you find something here that you can use 😊

My kitty's box uses a type of little compressed wood cylinders that break down into urine soaked sawdust when they pee on it. If I stored that sawdust instead of throwing it away, would it eventually nitrate? If yes, would adding their poop in speed up the process?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it will break down and form nitrates. Be careful where you put that compost, though - Toxoplasmosis is still the leading cause of death from foodborne illness in the developed world (although most people recover without treatment!) So, fine for improving soil around a pear tree or pole bean vine, where the food is not going to make contact with the soil, but not so good for strawberries or potatoes.

@matheusadornidardenne8684

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry noted. Started my very own compost pile just now. Will update you in about a year if anything useful comes out of it :)

@mtnbkr5478

Жыл бұрын

@@matheusadornidardenne8684 Do you have an update?

@chicken1117

Жыл бұрын

would this work? idk if sawdust would have the correct bacteria.

@mtnbkr5478

Жыл бұрын

@@chicken1117 The process of making the pellets requires superheating the sawdust, so it shouldn't have any bacteria. That said, in a compost pile, environmental bacteria will take over and do the processing, and there's plenty of that just floating in the air.

uh oh! Keanu Reeves Chain Reaction! Your not over weight! Your a picture of a happy complete person! Now go wash your hands!

Would straw be faster?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

Жыл бұрын

Straw, Hay, and grass clippings are the fastest to decompose .. but there is a risk of contamination with persistent broadleaf herbicide when using straw. If you do not use such nasty stuff on your lawn, you can use your grass clippings to good effect when making homemade fertilizer.

BTW if one is taking any type of medication their urine should not be used for garden compost, its ok for leaching for production of potassium nitrate.

Tulsa, Oklahoma my hometown

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

Жыл бұрын

I'm originally from just south of town, at Haikey creek park - that used to be my grandfather's farm.

@edjames9967

Жыл бұрын

I know it well, I had friends who lived out that way my area was Admiral & Yale, Will Rogers High School class of 77

Where is the 3rd part

That intro tho

What happens to the salt content that's in the urine? Is the salt in the soil? Thanks

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

Interestingly, salt (as sodium chloride) is not as concentrated in urine as it might seem .. there is at least twice as much potassium as NaCl present when fresh .. and the decomposition process breaks some of those bonds as well. This does not mean that there are no hazards to using fertilizer, though: Over time, mineral salts (including NaCl) can accumulate in soils that are routinely used for growing with fertilizers. Anyone who has kept a greenhouse or raised beds for several years will have noticed places where a mineral crust will form as their soil dries out .. This is particularly a problem for intensive growing in confined areas. For open fields, planting a cover crop and letting the ground rest for a season or two is usually sufficient to flush most of the excess away. Deliberate flushing with water can help (I've seen Bruce at RED Gardens use the hose to desalinize his greenhouses - what a chore!) Some other remediation tricks include planting things like Salsola Soda (wet environment) or saltbush (dry environment) as these plants like to take up salts - all kinds of salts, not just NaCl - making them good for cleaning up industrial sites as well (but the vegetation has to be removed and put SOMEWHERE)

@danamennerich3282

2 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry thanks for the answer. I am a water treatment professional and salt in water and soil is a bad problem these days

@danamennerich3282

3 ай бұрын

Just a follow up. I tried the wood chip urine thing and it's going on 2yrs this June and the stuff still looks like chainsaw chips. Did I miss something?

Hi Can we add ash and nettle? ash=potassium h. Nettle=nitrogen

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

Жыл бұрын

I'm a huge fan of growing accumulators - amaranth/quinoa/chenopodium for phosphorous, borage for potassium, alfalfa/clover for nitrogen. They find their way into just about everything that we compost. The advantage to using arborist wood chips for this particular method is that they already contain high levels of potassium, phosphorous, and calcium .. the nitrate is being supplied through the decomposition of the urea. Leaves will provide similar results, with lower amounts of calcium and carbon.

@semihtolgahaydaroglu7618

Жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry thanks

Interesting fact ,Back in the UK People Emptied their bedpans into a bucket outside the door where it was collected & taken away There's an Old English saying That if you were broke Then you didn't have a pot to pi'ss in!😂

@got2kittys

9 ай бұрын

My friend in England told me the Crowns urine collectors were usually drunks and bums. Wandering around in the garden, looking for the urine bucket, usually a bit loaded, was the beginning of the slang expressions "taking the piss" or " on the piss" , for being a bit drunk.

Where do you get sulfur?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

from the ranch supply store at the moment .. Once the mulberry trees are grown up enough, there will be enough sulfur accumulated in the leaves that I can just mulch with those to feed the aliums. Instead of using sulfur on the blueberries to push the ph lower, we gather the cones from the alder trees, and let those decompose around the bushes.

@lastharvest4044

Жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry cool tip, thanks

Cripps?

In America and the uk, the law needs to state that you are not allowed to do something, it will never state you can. That’s how common law works. So if in your jurisdiction it doesn’t explicitly say you can’t do something you can.

I have a bit of constructive criticism that might help to pad the number of videos in this long process. It would be helpful to show a rough cut of purifying nitrates from commercial sources as well as an extraction from your own sources at each stage. Seeing how much or how little nitrate can be harvested from the untreated wood chips, partially treated chips, fungally-decomposed compost, and average topsoil would be interesting to compare to your final product. Not to mention the interesting comparison to extractions from various sources and commercially available near-pure supplies. You seem nervous about the idea of showing something like that in a tutorial way, but even if you leave the extraction footage on the cutting room floor and show how the various sources compare for purity and yields, it would be very educational. You could show that your nitrated earth technically has different amounts than commercial fertilizers and of course less than pure(ish) sources, but explain why that higher concentration might kill your plants.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Did I cover nitrogen burn in the fertilizer 411 video? I'm going to need to review it, and reinforce the point, if I didn't, thanks! In this year's project (home made liquid fertilizer used to accelerate decomposition of green waste), I will be submitting the finished product to a professional lab for a nutrient assay - but that will be for a future commercial product (Hey! Wanna buy some dirt?) I WILL be demonstrating the extraction process described by LeConte later on this year .. There are gardening applications to (more or less) pure Potassium Nitrate, after all! I'm very aware that there is another context that this material can be perceived in - so yeah, I'm going to go out of my way a bit to avoid showing or discussing certain things; its better that someone has to do more research or ask a few questions, than to risk having a video pulled, and the information not be available at all.

We made gun powder in science class in 7th grade in Ohio, and we lit it in a metal bucket.

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

10th grade chemistry, we made aspirin .. No one wanted to taste it :p

@jonathanleo3778

2 жыл бұрын

It was an approved assignment is my point, I don't think it is exactly illegal, I doubt that the small high school had a special permit.

I found a way to make rockets with potassium nitrate and sugar.😮

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

11 ай бұрын

That's what we used to make motors when I was a kid .. i was president of the model rocketry club in grade school :)

Will the urine that leaks out the bottom burn grass?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and no .. Large enough quantities of urea over a long enough time can kill grass, but there is no need to add so much that any more than a few drops leak out of the bottom.

@hughoneill6555

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry So you don't need any manure because i have read you should? thanks

@hughoneill6555

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry Aswell can you use grass instead or leaves?

@hughoneill6555

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry And one last thing, I am living in Ireland where all this is illegal and me being 16 want so recreate your set up to make kno3 for sugar rockets do you think i would get in trouble because i would love to make a a channel like yours but what are the chances of getting fined? thanks

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

@@hughoneill6555 You can use grass clippings, just make sure to pack them in TIGHT .. and reduce the time required to about 3 months of keeping it moistened with urine, and 3 months just moistening with water - the grass will break down fast, and leave a lot less volume at the end. The making of nitrogen-rich compost is not illegal in Ireland .. extracting nitrate crystals out of it is .. Importing pre-built motors and arranging to use airspace prior to each launch is the legal way to do model rocketry in Ireland. There might be some exceptions for university related academic projects, so it may be worthwhile to make some inquiries at the University Colleges at Dublin and Cork, to see what kind of labs you can do in their programs .. otherwise, there is nothing wrong with doing a gardening channel - you might even be able to raise enough money to afford the cost of University through gardening and selling fresh produce. Gardening in space is a real potential career maker!

11:26 What's your cat's name?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

2 жыл бұрын

He never has told us .. but we call him "Sargent Crybaby", on account of his not-quite meow. He squeaks .. and hunts rabbits

@Blutnase

2 жыл бұрын

He's awesome. I've been working on this experiment a different way. I've been collecting a heap of kitty litter -- the corn-based stuff -- with the poop scooped out which I'll process into fertilizer. It was nice to have found your work. Thank you for sharing.

Pine straw? Pine needles?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

You could used pine needles .. you need surface area for the microbes to do their work, converting the urea into ammonia, then to nitrate. You wont get as many micronutrients in the finished compost from things like straw or pine needles, but the nitrogen will be there at least.

@solventtrapdotcom6676

3 жыл бұрын

@@Green.Country.Agroforestry I live in north Floriduh. I have pine needles and oak leaves in morbid abundance, but not much else... I realize it may not be the best, but it's better than nothing. I appreciate the videos. Looking forward to the KNO3 extraction. Pine needles tend to be acidic... LeConte specifies an alkaline base... Hmm...

Here's my situation. I do hydroponic growing. I live in canada where getting Kno3 is not easy and expensive. (Government is afraid we will go all guy fawkes on em) But we can buy tons of urea based fertilizer for decently cheap. Urea based fertilizer isn't ideal for hydroponics. My question is, would this process work with dry urea in place of gallons of urine?

@Green.Country.Agroforestry

3 жыл бұрын

The content of urine that is urea is 9.3 grams/liter of water (on the average .. I'll get back to that in a minute) .. the urea is what converts to ammonia and then nitrate with the help of soil bacteria (in hydro, you wouldn't have those bacteria, so it makes sense that urea wouldn't work so well there). Urea winds up in urine as a result of the liver breaking down excess protein, so a person with a high protein diet has more urea/liter than someone who was consuming a more carbohydrate based diet. Using dry urea fertilizer and hydrating it would be a neat way to have a more precise control of the process, at least the portions that one can control, that is. Once the carbon portion has decomposed, I imagine that one could simply utilize the leachate as it is, Ph adjusted accordingly, of course.

@ralphh4131

3 жыл бұрын

dude i know. i have the same problem.

@joshuabrown4518

Жыл бұрын

At your local aquarium supply store they sell the bacteria in a bottle to add to your fish tank when first establishing the environment for your fish so they don't poison themselves swimming in their own excrement. I'm currently conducting an experiment using my pee and that bacteria to see if I can produce the nitrates without having to filter off a bunch of dirt. Next to that I have one that is just pee,ash, and dirt. I just started mine a couple months ago hope I'm not too late to the party

I'm make a garden every year