kzread.info/dash/bejne/fIJ4qbdrfN2ymbw.html The original video how to make those glide leads.

I dare to say that this is your best bassline tutorial so far and also the best I've seen on KZread so far. Straight to the point without rambling on and on about stuff most beginner producers don't understand anyway. Good job.

Super nice tutorial! For those using Ableton, you could create an instrument rack of your Vital bass, create a new chain in the rack, duplicate the Vital instance to the new chain (removing the fundamental on this one), then bring out the Shaper audio effect. Make a square shape and map the shaper to the chain selector in the instrument rack. Then adjust the ranges to make sure the Vital instance without the fundamental is activated on the first bassnote, and vice versa.

You could also map the sub's level on the fundamental oscillator or the wavetable position of one oscillator to velocity, that way you can just turn the velocity on the midi note down to choose which notes have sub or not. For people who don't use bitwig I guess

@DataBroth

Жыл бұрын

haha I ended up using velocity, but didn't even consider wavetable position, excellent idea

@thomasschumacherOFC

Жыл бұрын

@@DataBroth Could you please explain how you do that?

@MutleeIsTheAntiGod

Жыл бұрын

​@@thomasschumacherOFC you drag the velocity mapper over to the wave table position slider, then in your daw toucan adjust the velocity of each note. Its the default view in piano roll in FL studio

ty so much mate, love you

quality stuff!! Thanks Glitch

Super! Thank you

right when i needed you most. thanks Dash you fucking rule!

Amazing work!! :D

Wow great skills!

Solid!!

this is genius! such a smart idea. thanks glitch, always teaching me wild stuff.

Killer tutorial!

Thanks brother :)

very nice tutorial as always glitch. keep up the good work. i swear your tutorials are by far the best out there

Very good Sir!)

Dope stuff

Again and again, you r the KING!!!! Thank you, it's a pure gold 💜👑

good stuff

Great tutorial. Thanks for the tips and knowledge!

Nice, I’ve been trying to get better at psy bass and can always use some updated insights.

Wow killer

THIS IS AMAZING!!! So deep. You are probably the best on this one!!!

Love your channel, bro! It's very inpspiering, and for sure it's very usefull! I actually started to use this synth after watching your video)

Very nice and comprehensive tutorial, thanks ❤

Great tutorial, I will just try it today. I am really struggling with my rolling tripplet Base in my mix and I will make sure to try it and see if I can get my miy sound right :)

Amazing video, helped me figure out the technical side of properly mixing psybass, which I've always struggled with. Thanks!

hey , i am a very new psytrance producer (since august 2023 ) gonna do that pretty serious ! thank you so much for your videos , i do not know any people in my near who could help me personally so i depend on videos like yours. thank you so much

Как всегда очень полезно! Спасибо!

This tutorial are awesome. Helps me a lot for the Bass Thanks a lot😊

An absolute master class right here.. By far the best most informative vid I have seen on this topic. well done Dash!

Finally someone said it what's the point in putting 3 bass notes if they will sound like 2 ... I was actually using a different bass patch for my second sixteen all this while ... This should work at hitech tempos too ... The side chain creates a bouncy vibe that takes the agression away

I decided to follow this tutorial, I haven't made psytrance in years the fundamental tip works SO well, also didn't know you could swap group types with right click also thank you for reminding me to mix at a lower volume

Thanks for the Tip with the fundamental, i mean after Hearing you Talk about It it seems kinda obvious but i didn't think of that haha. Great Videos i'll try these Tips right now!

Wow... another insightful straight to the point tutorial by the genius! You're damn brilliant mate. I'm actually using Psyscope... my life had changed since then :)

damn bro good "simple soloution" never thought of that ...... fixed my alltime "EQ Problem" with my baselines in 15 minutes lol 😍much love

Insane. Cutting edge surgical operation on kick & bass.

Dear Glitch, I follow your tutorials and I like the music you produce. Next to Dom Sigalas, your tutorials are the most entertaining and fruitful on KZread. Keep up the good work and happy 2023.

Immediately useful the second I click. Nice

I got lite version of bit wig from plugin boutique and havnt even used it but I know I would like to use it for sound design. I need to open it and see what lite can do

That’s genius! You can do this in Ableton too using an instrument rack and the chain selector for anyone wondering. This is such a nice tip, so obvious to do but I’d never have thought of it. Gonna apply this to allessss going forward😂😋 I just want to say I am so happy I’ve found your channel because I honestly don’t find many guys these days that know the technical fine details the way you do, such as editing the wave table rather than using an EQ to avoid ringing and phase shift, let alone another South African! Keep making your content bro I look forward to it🤞🏼

instead of two different layers you could automate the volume of a second osc sine wave with oppesite phase (shifted by 90°) for the first of the three 1/16 bassnotes so it will just "cut" the fundamental (negative interference). its really nice because its keytracked aswell :)

nice

you saved me lord thank you

zebra 2 has two useful spectral effects for oscillators: fundamental and brilliance. The former can attenuate fundamental away, and the latter can be used to boost higher harmonics (a bit like when you set 'repeat' in ableton's operator synth to divisions).

that helped a lot m8 - thx 😛

I've been using all this techniques figuring them out on my own lol, I guess I have to believe in myself more

Bro just found your channel just watched tons of your videos. Holy fuck dude some solid work my guy thank you for sharing your knowledge

science.

wow, It's really rare to find such a great knowledge source as these tutorials that you make. Where did you learn all of this? All from youtube or school education?

I found an easy way to do this in Logic Pro X as well. Duplicate your final vital track and remove the fundamentals on the second one, create a summing track stack with these 2 tracks. Go into the track inspector for each track and either limit which instrument to use by limiting key range or velocity. If you choose key range, then edit the octave on your synth patch accordingly. Then you just draw the midi in on the stack instead of individual tracks, and also put the effect plugins on the stack.

One more benefit of using the LFOs in envelope mode is that you can sync them to the tempo. The envelopes are more “what you see is what you get”, but if you’re trying to trigger some movement that lines up with the beat, it’s not clean.

i have a question about the 2 envelopes.. if they are in sequence, does the filter not just follow the more restrictive curve?

This is similar to what I do in ableton. The first bass note is on one chain in the instrument rack and the last two notes are in another chain. Instead of removing the fundamental I EQ the first note but I might do it your way from now on (it's cleaner). I think I learnt the concept from DayDin although I think he simply just uses two channels rather than a rack.

There is actually a way to do it in Fruity Loops too using the "Layer"-plugin together with "Envelope Controller"

Very nice One of the Best, or The Best and coolest Psytrance Baseline Tutorial at KZread. My Problem is to understand English good. At 8:20 im out Very good Work, Dash Glitch

with remap you can create the same idea in phase plant and of course you could also create it directly in vital aswell ;)

Do you have any tutorials on how to make that bubbly growl at around 0:36?

Can you please make a video about How to make melodic basslines on full on trance? Please???

Loving this, plus the fact you have moved over to Bitwig. I managed to get a Cubase 12 copy and I find it so difficult, clunky and less intuitive. Bitwig is easy to create an idea out of nothing. :)

Nice I always wondered how to do it better than my tries so far xD Was perfectly able to implement this method in the grid in bitwig :) thank you very much :) Edit: Was a bit a pain in the a** because the envelopes have the smoothing on and this makes it have 10ms latency, but if you turn it off it works exactly as in vital

Amazing tutorials! It’s incredible to see the depth of control and precision Dash Glitch achieves with Psytrance bass in Bitwig, especially regarding the separation of the fundamental frequency for clean mixing with the kick. What’s exciting is that this technique can be replicated directly within Vital, offering a powerful method accessible across any DAW. By utilizing Vital’s three oscillators to separate the fundamental, second harmonic, and remaining harmonics, we gain individual control over these crucial elements of our bass sound. Even more, we can extend this method to include precise control over the second harmonic and implement kick-ducking within Vital itself. This is done by assigning additional LFOs to modulate the volumes of these oscillators, mimicking the ducking effect and ensuring our bassline perfectly complements the kick without any frequency clashes. Creating macros in Vital for the fundamental, second harmonic, and kick-ducking not only simplifies the process but also provides on-the-fly adjustments that can dramatically alter the feel and groove of our tracks. This approach showcases the versatility and depth of synthesis available within Vital, empowering producers to achieve studio-grade Psytrance basslines in any DAW, without the need for external routing or complex setups. This synthesis technique underscores a crucial aspect of electronic music production: understanding and manipulating the core components of your sounds. By mastering these concepts within Vital, we unlock a vast realm of creative possibilities, ensuring our basslines are not only powerful but also perfectly integrated with the rest of our mix.

@DashGlitch

3 ай бұрын

very well put! Thanks The main issue with vital is you don't have partial control with imported tables, so you have to do very tricky spectral EQing to splits the bands, but yes you're right!

Valuable tip about removing the fundamental. Personally, I'd do the switch between the bass sounds within Vital instead, by having a wavetable containing the two waveshapes and using an LFO modulation to switch between the two. (Not sure how well that would sound though.)

@DrBuffaloBalls

Жыл бұрын

You could also just use another oscillator, and automate the volumes in inverse directions.

@peteredsbacker4513

Жыл бұрын

@@DrBuffaloBalls indeed, that is what I do. Then I let a CC control a xfade between them and use a note to cc script routing from the kick midi to it. So "full" bass is on when kick is off (kick gets a 1/8 note)

@vilgotbrons5169

Жыл бұрын

2 channels is also a possability.

@Overxpossed

8 ай бұрын

very clever! That would remove the phasing if sidechaining a high pass filter that cut out the low fundamental.

Really cool and creative thanks. Just one question, the step modulator is set with 1/32 note? I also find very simple to apply this technique to other Daws you would need to channels for the bass and add automation using the mute button.

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

1/16, yes true!

I thought keytrack was relative adjustment of the filter based on the incoming note?

Would a high-passed Sawtooth/whatever wave wavetable, automating the wavetable position timed to the kicks help avoid phasing/EQ ringing issues you mention? I know Vital is free, but trying to limit my synth options to avoid paralysis of choice.

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

You can do similar in Phase Plant and Serum in the Wavetable editor

Galloping psytrance = Psyron Maiden

This would work worse if you have some non-linear postprocessing. But you can use Harmonic Split just to isolate fundamental. You can also then bounce into sampler two versions: with and without fundamental.

How about Shaperbox and do the sidechain only on the sub in the 1st note? Awesome tutorial mate! Will try this one!

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

Like I said in the video, adjusting harmonics = cleaner than EQ / any type of filtering

I have a slight feeling that I am overthinking this, but I am struggling with one particular part of the bassline - the downpitching in the synthesis phase. My bassnote sounds nice and punchy when I don't downpitch it (in contrast to this and many other tutorials, however in that cases it misses many subby elements) but when I downpitch by one octave it sounds fairly weak. I often thought about layering but when I look it up on youtube everyone creates the bassline just with one osc on. Could it be because most of the tracks I try to produce are in D or D# where the bass generally doesnt sound good? I'm a producer beginner and have a feeling that I'm missing something trivial which sadly prevents me from going further haha

This was extremely useful! Not a fan of calling applying a LFO for sidechain though, soon we will be calling reducing the velocity of a note sidechaning as well :p

@DashGlitch

7 ай бұрын

Trigger it with MIDI to ease your mind

Serum has a remove fundamental process in the wavetable editor which can work for this

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

Yes

How about for longer basslines?

What about a side chain in bitwig using an audio receiver on an EQ, on the high pass cutoff?

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

I try not use high-pass EQs on bass, it creates phasing issues most of the time and alters the sound of the source a bit too much.

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Wouldn’t it be more efficient to remove the fundamental via layer2 in Vital and mix both via the macros or midi cc or automation. If you don’t have bitwig just do that. Plus just one instance of Vital.

Boss. Peroid.

Is there a video, you do the same with Serum without fab filters?

@beaulachance7439

Жыл бұрын

In the wavetable editor you can process out the fundamental, it's called "remove fundamental"

LOL I have the same shroomy tapestry in the background

What about drawing a second wavetable , without the fundamental, and use an lfo in sync mode to change between the two? 1 and 2 16th note- wavetable1 3 and 4 16th note- wavetable 2 (the same as 1 but without the fundamental) first time doing a trance bass.... does it work the best this way? for me it sounds good but i'm not sure if its the best it can be.

@DashGlitch

6 ай бұрын

yep that can work too, I just wanted to show a variety of methods/ tricks :)

@user-fx3yn9ud6u

6 ай бұрын

thank you so much. its precious the information you share! hope to see you performing some day who knows!@@DashGlitch

can do that in ableton with the grouping function inside the channel and using a chain selector

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

True, problem is double the CPU load then. Bitwig's selector uses the smart disabling

@Nuke_Skywalker

Жыл бұрын

@@DashGlitch well, you technically could use automation to enable and disable the individual chains so only one of them is active at any time. or get a faster cpu. i5 12400 did it for me :P

i heard that kick and bass should peak at -12 but what about the whole mix with leads and fx ? should the whole mix also peak at -12 or close to that ?

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

I generally aim the overall mix peak at -6dB, before a "quick master" rack, which brings the rest to 0 and clips, this way if something pokes above the peak threshold the clip makes it very audible, and can be adjusted.

greetings from Germany. if you are here let me know!

if you just want to remove the fundamental you can have the fundamental as a sine wave oscillator on Vital and then just automated that sine wave to be at the volume you want, at the same time you can remove the fundamental from the saw and that way you won't need multiple instances of vital? : D

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

Biitwig automatically de-activates the instances when you use the select layer container ;) it';s the same, but this way is less complex with the modulation and thus, less to go wrong

many ways to rome :)

As a Cubase user overhere (not ready yet to jump to Bitwig), i would really like a DAW independent workaround, maybe that's an idea for a next video on the same subject

@DashGlitch

9 ай бұрын

2 separate channels is the only way in cubase

@DashGlitch

9 ай бұрын

you can potentially make 2 oscilators and switch between those, I find that sometimes to not be very accurate though

@rmolag

9 ай бұрын

ok, thx, i will give it a try@@DashGlitch

please put the preset for download

Do you have a Pigments bass tutorial ?

@DashGlitch

6 ай бұрын

I have not yet, I'll look into that

@nofood1

6 ай бұрын

@@DashGlitch 🫡🫡🫡

next time you can configure your oszillos mega scope from two sources and you can see if there are phase issues

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

There are none automatically because the sound sources don’t exist in the same freq domain

I kind of lost you after 9th minute, gotta watch again.

Hey man, really love the tutorial but somehow it doesn‘t work for me.. 😕 after I set the first LFO to envelope the sound is only triggered once just like a single pluck. and it doesn‘t play it sequenced when I hold the button for the note. I followed every step but it won‘t work… Help pls 😅

@DashGlitch

8 ай бұрын

play 3 notes

@FRIIDON

8 ай бұрын

@@DashGlitch still not working. I saw that you just hold down the button and it automatically plays the sequenzed bass. No matter what I press on the keyboard the sound only plays once.

@DashGlitch

8 ай бұрын

@@FRIIDON that's the sequence coming from the MIDI clip, not the plugin

I removed the fundamental up high, at 7K, and saw a spike in SPAN right after the frequency dip. This does not happen in Serum. Interesting. Is Vital just "filtering" and causing resonance at the cut off?

@DashGlitch

8 ай бұрын

The fundamental can't be that high in the bass

@citadelo5ricks

8 ай бұрын

@@DashGlitch Understood, I was doing this for the purpose of making space for hihats.

Couldn't you just make a wave table of the full saw and the saw minus the fundamental and use velocity or something to modulate between them? Maybe an option for those without Bitwig? EDIT: Great tutorial BTW, sorry, I forgot my manners

@DashGlitch

8 ай бұрын

It's better to remove fundamental and modulate a sine in and out, but yea you can totally do that, I just find it a bit messy in the patch if you know what I mean

Hello Dan. From the beginning of this tutorial, your sound , in vital is very loud, and bassy. While copying your settings I cannot get your great bass sound even remotely....so frustrating ! All the others tutorials I'tried, give the same result on my computer, as on the video . I guess some processing happens, on your part, after vital sound (EQ, Compressor, limiter...) . Without this missing piece of the puzzle, it is imposssible to get your nice snappy attack. Which is the real body of your bass. There where a few nice tricks, that you gave us, in the beginning. Thank you for that. BTW, Another youtuber (adrenakrohm) had the idea of using the step mode in a LFO, that controls 2 low oscilators, in order to get the first note ( after the kick) quieter. I thought it would interesting to share this, for people, like me, who don't use Bitwig.. take care.

@DashGlitch

16 күн бұрын

the only difference I can think of is the pitch of the note, there is no secret processing on here, everything is shown in the video. Yes I know Adrenakrohm, he's one of my original patreon members. Sure you can use LFO, but if it's internally processed in the synth I tend to use velocity instead, just much quicker to program.

@shykall

16 күн бұрын

​@@DashGlitchHi Dan. Thank you for your answer. Velocity indeed, would the simplest way to achieve this. Concerning the sound difference, I tried again. I guess I had forgotten to put a few "smooth parameter" to 0 and to put, at least, the LFO 3 to 1/16 . Then it became punchy too. As for the fat bass sound : I was still making this rookie mistake : the notes were too short. My bad...and I'm sorry for the trouble. Now I have the same punchy and fat sound. Thank you, for your help. I realy enjoyed watching your tutorials. Now I will enjoy praticing with them too. Have a nice time making music and teaching your skills. .Take care.

I assume ithis is because you've got some master processing or post processing on the video, but whenever I follow these tutorials even to the smallest detail my sounds are always lacking substantially in thiccnesss. always sounds better in your vids

@DashGlitch

Жыл бұрын

only a limiter. maybe it's the key/note you choose?

My bass is like not repeating, its one shot but not that psytrance i followed all steps

@DashGlitch

7 ай бұрын

put more notes

@SHAGYSDJ

7 ай бұрын

@@DashGlitch yeah i managed that later 😅😅 thanks tho

Sharing patches with friends? Musicians have friends? 😂

I thought this bass line was going to be vegan 🌱🥑🥬💚

I love that bassline, sounds like NOK. Now I'm going to download Vital and follow your video! Good job! (My fav NOK track: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHmArZZwYta-ftI.html)

Кайфовый трек будет Dash!