If you mix it with orange juice and send it through the human system the body will separate all the alcohol out

@GRBtutorials

4 жыл бұрын

And convert it to acetic acid...

@jhyland87

4 жыл бұрын

But thats just water hes distilling... Wink wink nudge nudge

@spvillano

4 жыл бұрын

@@jhyland87 purifying the water by removing the contaminants, one being particularly toxic, segregated in a container marked ethnol. One does want to properly label one's toxins... ;)

@blackturbine

4 жыл бұрын

No officer I'm not drunk I am just distilling some ethanol tjats all *hic*

@nunyabusiness1312

3 жыл бұрын

Add baking soda and potassium permanganate at the end wait a week or two it will clump up filter it distille it it taste like nothing

As a chemist I can assure you mol sieves are the most effective in dehydration. Btw, I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. You always bring a smile in my face.

Love the fact that you show the little disappointing moments and make them into golden learning moments.

Awesome video on distilling 'Water'....... Just what everyone was looking for..... 👍

Wow, sixteen minute video and undoubtedly hours of work just to end up with store bought ethanol. Worth the watch :)

I personally find that Everclear or equivalent store-bought grain ethanol is sufficiently pure for most of my chemistry needs - and if I need it drier, I let it sit over cheap&crappy Chinese zeolites for a while. This way the tax man gets paid and lots of time is saved. I'm not saying that a distillation setup doesn't have other uses, props for fixing it. (edit) one idea for getting a higher purity straight form the initial distillation would be to make a dehydration column and place it in series with the condenser. Just pack a glass tube with anhydrous copper sulfate between 2 porous plugs (cotton balls should do) and connect that right at the output of the condenser. The condensate passes directly through the column, gets the azeotropic water sucked from it and turns the CuSO4 blue progressively as it does so. When the blue line gets close to the other end of the column you know the column capacity is nearly full and needs to be exchanged. A quick back-of-the-napkin calculation says that you can pack about 20g anhydrous copper sulfate (allowing for volume expansion as it hydrates) in a 5mm glass tube, 50cm long - and that would be enough to dehydrate about 100ml of distillate. Thicker tubes would allow for more copper sulfate - e.g. 10mm would pack 80g and so on.

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree, grain is way more practical and easy to dry, and probably much more pure. Home stilled alcohol likely contains quite a few other volatiles in it which could harm some reactions. I just wanted to explore the science here as nurdrage would say. It's definitely completely impractical for a chemist to do such a thing. Very cool idea about the CuSO4 packed column. That probably would have worked out much better

@OkNoBigDeal

5 жыл бұрын

When I was in the saltwater aquarium hobby zeolites were being explored for a whole list of different biological and mechanical filtration innovations. My mind immediately went to alcohol/ethenol filtration etc, my aquarium club disapproved my tangent of thoughts and ideas. I was thinking literally too far outside of the box(aquarium). Turns out that eventually filters were made out of zeolite matrixes for culturing bacteria. You fed the bacteria sugars from ethenol and then disturbed/agitated the media so the bacterial films could slough off and in turn feed corals. That's my anecdote 🤷🏻‍♂️

@mwilson14

5 жыл бұрын

@keith moore As long as you own a home you can get a permit for $10 to distill your own ethanol for fuel/alternative energy. It is easy to get and you won't have to worry about the IRS & ATF knocking down your door. I am a renter, so I cannot get the permit. WA state requires no additional license or permits other than the one you obtain from the IRS for ten bucks.

@mwilson14

5 жыл бұрын

@@ElementalMaker www.ttb.gov/forms/f511074.pdf

@mwilson14

5 жыл бұрын

@keith moore I agree with you 100%. I'm libertarian. I am just aware how easy and cheap it is for someone that owns their own home to get a permit to make fuel alcohol. Some people like the extra insurance or reassurance that they won't get into legal trouble.

A really great option is starch - corn starch, potato starch, or my favourite, sago (seed tapioca). It absorbs water, and is not in the least poisonous. It can also just be filtered out and no need for second distillation. Tapioca beads are in effect molecular sieves.

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

Very cool! I'll have to try that some time!

@rustyfox2794

5 жыл бұрын

@@ElementalMaker People also use cement powder for the same effect, but I think they'd want to re-distil it afterwards. As for seed tapioca (sago) you probably could dry it and re-use it, but it's so cheap you could just discard it... or cook some nice dessert!

@VerbenaIDK

Жыл бұрын

sago is delicious too, a plus!

@Sniperboy5551

9 ай бұрын

Is that actually true? I hadn’t thought of that before!

Thank you so much for posting this useful and comprehensive water purification video.

Those molecular sieves are always dusty from banging around on eachother when they're dry. It's a good idea to wash and dry them immediately before use to prevent cloudiness.

AvE but chemistry

@andrii_zavhosp

4 жыл бұрын

It is not a chemistry. It's idiotism

@TangerineTaylor

4 жыл бұрын

Keeping dicks in a vice

@smokemirrors1531

3 жыл бұрын

AvE - the evil genius hiding out in the wilderness in 'Canadia' you mean???

A video before bed. Perfect timing

7:43 there are molecular sieves in the background in a jar

@charadremur333

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah...

@spvillano

4 жыл бұрын

And they were used, even if not reactivated, at the end to address the remaining water content.

Hey man just want to say i absolutely love your channel, i always get aVe vibes from your videos and always enjoy your content Great work Cheers

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy, thanks for watching and dropping a comment

@jaate

5 жыл бұрын

Has anyone seen AvE and ElementMaker at same time? Just saying, just saying..... 😒

@Wheresmy240

4 жыл бұрын

Get Ave vibes? More like he's purposely copying Ave or they're long lost brothers or something. I mean, imitation is the highest form of flattery or some shit like that, right?

@ZebbMassiv

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wheresmy240 its probably the BC accent

I’ve missed you. Good to see you!

looks like much hard work went into this one. Thanks fot sharing

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it Allan. It was quite a fun project.

Fabulous work. Amazing what sugar can do. Lol. I love your work. Thanks for your time & effort making a video.

congrats, now I cant wait to see what you do with it

Totally understand the frustration at copper I was fingers crossed for 100% nice job getting it done :-)

Some very fascinating theoretical chemistry!

7:58 Doesn't use molecular sieves because it's too expensive. Molecular sieves on the desk in the top right corner: _Am I a joke to you?_

@Camwize

4 жыл бұрын

Was coming here to make the same comment haha

@nickbrockelman

2 жыл бұрын

@@Camwize me too

Cool video! Enjoy your anhydrous!

I so love this stuff!

Holy crap mr. Wizard that's more info than we had yesterday

one of the most underrated KZreadr

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

Nice destilation. Use quicklime. Even with vacuum it is hard to get anhydrous ethanol. No problem in redistill the sieve contaminated ethanol.

13:35 that dust is easy to get out using a cotton ball in a funnel. It makes it past frits, Buchner funnels and coffee filters, but a somewhat tightly packed ball of cotton in a funnel works great.... And it's simple!

@ElementalMaker

4 жыл бұрын

Great tip!

@jhyland87

4 жыл бұрын

@@ElementalMaker No worries :-) And btw, I wouldn't assume that just because they've been used, cleaned and reactivated in the oven that they won't have any "dust" in them in the next usage, mine certainly do, and while they aren't the top of the line 3A sieves, they aren't the cheap Chinese ones either (apparently the "best" sieves don't generate much dust, or so I'm told).

appreciate the vids VERY much and all your hard work.

@ElementalMaker

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch Rik! Glad your enjoying

@user-be4yc2vr5c

4 жыл бұрын

@@ElementalMaker No bud, thank YOUUUU, a bunch XD

Great job. That was pretty damn cool.

Great job!

I like that the Copper Sulfate when drying in the oven, did not melt. That makes a much more convenient drying agent than some other chemicals.

That's a every scientific way of doing something I did in in the backwoods

@spvillano

4 жыл бұрын

Not really, it was distilled, which can and frequently is done in the backwoods. But, getting 100% alcohol takes chemical methods, which is what he did, albeit somewhat poorly by using too high a distillation temperature and when fixing it, not using a regular depth filter.

You should get one of those cheap check valves for distillations great way to keep water out

Awesome! I’ll try this when I can get my clear ice figured out.... perfect for whiskey ;). Bought myself a beautiful bottle and haven’t opened it because of no ice

@nickbrockelman

2 жыл бұрын

The secret to clear ice is to first, obviously, use distilled water, and second de-gas it before freezing. That means to put the water under a reasonable vacuum pressure pull out all of the microscopic bubbles that cause nucleation points like contaminants do.

Table Sugar to Anhydrous Ethanol, in Theory!

Looks like someone got Papa Smurf happy.

Nice coincidence, I have glassware in the mail as of 1 week ago, To do just this :D

That was great! Thanks

@ElementalMaker

5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed! Thank you!

I really needed to get to sleep. My eye were burning from a long day of work.. NO WAY... I'm watching EM till my eyes bleed!. Thanks for the entertainment as always. Maybe you could consider re-distilling the ethanol now to get rid of the particulates from the seeves?

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

Truly appreciate your viewership! Yeah I definitely could have re-distilled, but in reality zeolite is quite chemically inert, so it really cant hurt future reactions. Also now that its had time to settle, I can easily decant off particulate free EtOH

i am sorry to bring this up however one of us has somethings wrong. it is NOT illegal to ferment and distill the ferment to make alcohol, you merely go and fill out an application to become an alcohol producer. then the production of alcohol is legal and aboveboard, it is what you DO with the alcohol that causes the problems, for example if you use it for cleaning fluid or a fuel additive for your yard equipment or fuel for the WWII USNavy torpedo Mk12, or many other some such uses. yes you can re-distill your product to make it even stronger, it requires a little different setup than the first pass thru used. the licencing for this should be found here "ttb.gov" thats where i found it (04/12/2020). so best of luck. good video, thank you for making and displaying it for our viewing pleasure..

That's why it helps to closely watch the temp during distillation. When you start seeing the temperature rise above boiling range at a faster rate then you can kill it faster.

Nice. Im doing the same thing basically but using the co2 byproducts to feed my cannabis. So I’m making weed, and I’m making mead!

Wow, 2019! You were well prepared to wipe down all your surfaces and to have something to drink when you were bored out of your mind during quarantine!

Based solely on the commentary, I can tell that you and I would get along famously. Subbed.

It seems like the problem with that second distillation step is too much water sitting around in the CuSO4 complex. It would probably kill your yield but would it make sense to vacuum filter the CuSO4/EtOH mixture and use the filtrate as your end product or feedstock for a further distillation step? Or does the ethanol start to form complexes with the copper sulphate and heating the whole batch is necessary to drive it off?

I used anhydrous K3PO4 to dehydrate ethanol, and it kind of worked! Did not measure its density, but my ethanol was freely miscible with alcanes (light gasolin)

Yes I know I'm not a skilled as you. One thing I have used to get higher percentage rubbing alcohol is too use hydrated or non hydrated table salt to help the water separate out. I don't know if it will work with that kind of alcohol so try with the store bought first

You could always just use salt! Sea salt works great!of course i buy 55 gallons at a time because i use it in my race car! Great video

I call that stuff hiking booze, it fits in a small package, packs a wallop and can be reconstituted at any water source (treatment tablets not needed), with the addition of a little Gatorade powder. Oddly enough you can buy 500ml containers of 200 proof non denatured ethyl alcohol on ebay...

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

Now this is a man that knows how to hike! Nothing like those heavy legs for climbing a hill LOL

@TheExplosiveGuy

5 жыл бұрын

@@ElementalMaker lol that's the only way to hike. Who hikes sober anyways?

@nickbrockelman

2 жыл бұрын

I think whoever called it "hiking" was looking for a more fun way to say "taking a long hard walk ove. Difficult terrain carrying all your shit on your back." Much harder to get people to go with you when you call it like it is... Lol

Always entertaining.

I have seen removing the ethanol from gas with water and tried it and definitely end up with more that the amount of watter added which would probably be cheaper and faster

When using a pure sugar wash, it helps to add yeast nutrients. I normally run 48ht turbo yeast which contains nutrients and ph levelers. After about 5 days at 70-75 degrees I have very good yields. The yeast will release more alcohol when allowed to run for a longer period at lower temps (within reason). Forgot to add, taking a hydrometer reading from the sugar water prior to yeast addition and before distillation allows you calculate your alcohol in solution. It should read negative after the yeast consumes the sugar meaning less dense than water. This way you know if the yeast consumed all the sugar prior to distillation. Nice video.

1. Stopcock grease ( silicon grease) will help keep distillation losses and moisture absorption from the air to a minimum. 2. Build a dry box to keep measurements and chemicals at their best.

thank you man hear in our lock down no store have Ethanol for sterilization

Buchner vacuum funnel with 1 micron filter paper paper will remove that "powder" in the Ch3Ch2OH... OR you could pre-rinse your 3A molecular sieve and -carefully- bake or Vacuum bake it to remove the extra mol dust that was created from kicking around the lab for several months. Treat it like Nitro Glycerin and itll probably keep the majority of that "powder" down... (Lmao, I love the copper sulfate curse at the end btw, I was talking to the screen the whole time complaining about not just using the 3a sieve and then to hear you say that with a tone desperation and frustration had me rolling. Great instructional tho, I like it, keep em coming)

I did it with Ca oxide. Filles a distilling pot half way with 95% than put in a stand with a sieve that was above the liquid, added crushed Ca Oxide, left about 1/4 of the pot empty for the Ca to expand that put the lid on. The condenser copper tube went from the pot lid, through a bucket of ice water and in to a capped jar that had been hit with a blow-dryer before putting the lid on. Used it to make biodiesel.

Liking your work, so far - keep it up! Now @Patreoned, just because I'm interested.

@ElementalMaker

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Keith! Glad your enjoying the videos

I was aways taught to pass the alcohol through the molecular sieve rather than add the sieve to the alcohol. Strangely, it always worked out very well for me.

Question: Instead of putting your desiccant (CuSO4) directly into your ethanol (and thus contaminating the result), couldn't you instead build and use a desiccator (i.e., no direct contact => no contamination)?

Used to work at a LLLarge national lab, in the main warehouse. We would issue 2 pints of ever-clear all year long. It was mainly used to clean glassware. Except during the holidays. First week of December, we'd go thru 5 gallons of that stuff, a pint at a time. Sign above the punch bowl at all the dept parties... "NO SMOKING WITHIN 50 FEET" 😁

@ElementalMaker

4 жыл бұрын

Damn that's alot of everclear!

@jmar1371

4 жыл бұрын

@@ElementalMaker 8500+ employees, and I'm here to tell you brother... Those people could drink.

Lmao, I love your videos!! I’ve always thought you sounded like Seth rogen and I couldn’t help but picture him when you said “oh look, the joints wetting!” Hahaha!! Great work though man!!

Nice video. Would have been a great help if came few months ago. I did same thing but didn't have anything to absorb water except 1 kg of copper sulphate and had same idea to dehydrate it and use it.

"OK, well f*** copper sulfate." love it.

_Store Bought Ethanol_ and *just* _Water_ trickling out of that distillation coil haha very good

you should look into liquid desiccants and do a video on using them.

Great job my friend even if it was just hypothetical 😉

From delicious to delicious!

Have you tried distilling through the molecular sieve? Its how we did it while making fuel ethanol (200 proof denatured). You can only do it for so long though as you need a way to flush the moisture collected in the sieve bed

@ElementalMaker

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried that yet but definitely a great idea!

I was wondering if you would be able to sell 2 of your propane torches for the foundry, i dont have the tools necessary to make them

Can i use the the same yeast that is used to elevate home bread paste??? Saccharamyces cerevicieae.

grandpa EM's tripple X moonshine!

Why does the stream turn into round circles as it condenses on the condenser walls it looks so cool just never knew what caused it

Would Calcium Chloride work as the desiccant? It's available at pool suppliers.

Question: You said the thermal expansion of the brass fitting was higher, meaning it would expand before the glass (or just expand more?), and thus you would just need to push the female glass joint into it further to ensure it's still air tight; Are you worried that upon cooling down it may tighten on the glass joint and crack it? Do you also need to take it out before it cools down?

Yes, I listen to deathgrips

Damn those bottles. 😊

great video.

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed

@jarret9438

5 жыл бұрын

ElementalMaker the pleasure is mine, I think you're influencing people in a fantastic way. keep up the Great Work. and don't forget to fail.

Introducing extra moisture.... product full of zeolite powder... thanks for being more like my lab!!! ;)

I just so happen to have that exact yeast

hello is it not possible to use a membrame filtration or something like reverse osmose?

@ElementalMaker

4 жыл бұрын

That's an awesome idea. I would think it would be possible to membrane concentrate with ethanol

@ElementalMaker

4 жыл бұрын

Looks like the idea has at least been explored a bit! www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/037673888280001X

I'm going fishing tomorrow morning, why am I still awake watch Elemental Maker at half twelve still wide awake .

Would ammonium nitrate work as an alternative desiccant, especially is the intent is to make sanitizer?

What does the cap on the jars do and can we make one ?

Working in HVAC we have filter dryers that we braze into our refrigeration lines to keep everything anhydrous. It's best practice for us in this profession to cut these out when replacing as opposed to using our oxyacetylene torch. What I'm getting at would you have better results to remove the ethanol from your copper sulfate before subjecting it to heat? After all isn't it heat that your using to drive the water off the copper sulfate initially so wouldn't it just release water back into your ethanol?

@nickbrockelman

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it would. I would just throw out the saturated copper sulfate and consider the alcohol absorbed in it as loss via the "cost of doing business" as you might say.

You can always evaporate ethanol off of zeolite, just warm up the mix and put the receiver bottle into your freezer.

awesome but maybe mix the anhydrous copper sulphate and dislitate together in the round bottom flask instead of beaker, saves the hassle or transfering the sludge after..

You could try building a mineral oil bubbler instead of using the nitrile glove. It should do a better job of keeping out moisture and can be as simple as a tube you run into a jar of oil. Just add a oneway valve to help prevent any accidents and you should be fine. Also, try using glassware fresh from the wife's toaster oven. There is surprising amount of water adsorbed onto glassware and for stuff like this, dry glassware is always a good starting point. If you don't want to wait or the toaster oven is in use, you can take a heat gun to the entire distillation apparatus to chase away the unwanted water. If I were to set this up, I'd probably use a column packed with glass beads as the primary distillation column followed by a shorter drying column packed with a desiccant, or I'd just throw everything into a Soxhlet extractor and let it go for a day or so.

you can also use additives in the distillation to break the azeotrope

@mustafayasiraydin

5 жыл бұрын

I know that carcinogenic benzene is used industrially.

@simonstergaard

5 жыл бұрын

copper sulfate IS an additive... it was added...get it

@bluecatdk

4 жыл бұрын

Simon Østergaard sulphate u ignorant peasant

@AguaFluorida

4 жыл бұрын

@@bluecatdk IUPAC accepts 'sulfate', and it's easier to type. Aluminium, however...

@craighathaway4640

4 жыл бұрын

@@AguaFluorida 'sulfate', and is easier to type. 😎

Being that high of percentage, what color is it when it burns? I know from from playing with fire over the years that around 70% (isopropyl alcohol, anyways) burns with a nice blue flame under the right conditions; 91% burns with a teal color under the relative same conditions. I'm curious as to seeing the difference, could you demonstrate it in the next video?

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

Good question, Ill have to try burning it. I think it will still be the same though, unless some contamination from either the copper or molecular sieves snuck in.

Another distillation would've been REALLY helpful. Getting 2% water out with drying agents is hard enough. An attempt with 25% is possible but it is a lot extra hassle.

Silica gel and zeolite are good dessicants to use.

Any update on the thermic lance video with aluminum tubing? I've been reading about possible Al/O2 rockets and am curious if they could be as simple as thermic lances.

@SomeAustrianGuy

5 жыл бұрын

How do you generate thrust with al/o2? Also isn't that rocket a giant sandblaster with the al2o3 forming?

@Nuovoswiss

5 жыл бұрын

@@SomeAustrianGuy You would run the engine oxygen rich, which serves as the working fluid to convert the Al2O3 heat of formation into thrust via adiabatic expansion. The "sandblasting" effects of the Al2O3 in the exhaust will depend a lot on the details of how everything is configured. Ideally, the Al2O3 would form nanoscale particulates which wouldn't be large enough (or have enough radial velocity) to abrade the internals of the engine. Then again, depending on the temperature distribution, the Al2O3 may solidify and deposit onto parts of the nozzle throat or combustion chamber. I saw from your channel that you have interest in making synthetic ruby, perhaps you could give this a go?

something to be thinking about is an economic analysis for this method of yours . for NP chr'y water is a no-no, and there anhyd' etoh is indicated. for RP chr'y water is often in the eluent mix already so your 95% would fit right in ( after filtering )

Same school of Choochery as AvE, so definitely worthy of a sub and thumbs up! There seems to be similarities in the accent too - BC by any chance? I love it when you say A l u m i n i u m _properly!_ haha

Did you try filtering through diatomaceous earth?

Ah yes, taxes have been paid! - the delivery of that line at the end is just perfect

What about the terpenes in the pre and post distillation?

What size molecular sieve did you use?

Absolute alcohol always used to be distilled from a mix with Benzene. No water came over but Benzene was present as an impurity. which also made it toxic to drink which (in the UK) got round the excise duty.

Do you have a link for that heating belt (ideally working not only in the USA)?

@ElementalMaker

5 жыл бұрын

This is the one I purchased amzn.to/2M50oyH. Hopefully its available in your location.

Bokakob/bokabob still is easy to build and is capable of azeotropic distillation in one pass. Downside is it is pretty slow.