How to make a flat roof fall. Simple quick firring pieces

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How to make firrring pieces simply, quickly and accurately
I show you how I make Firring pieces for a flat roof
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  • @HenryTyrrell
    @HenryTyrrell6 ай бұрын

    Everything Robin does is gold. As an experienced chippy myself, I didn’t think I needed to watch a video on cutting firring strips. But lo and behold, I’ve learned a new way to do it!

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your kind comment Henry, love it when experienced carpenters like you watch my channel, I bet that if I worked with you for a few days there would be little tricks that you would know and I would learn!! That's the beauty of our craft!!!

  • @sebrickard7356
    @sebrickard73567 ай бұрын

    Robin is like the Ronnie O Sullivan of carpentry! So quick and naturally talented. 🙌

  • @protectiongeek
    @protectiongeek7 ай бұрын

    Aaaaargh! Really, really wish I'd seen this vid 24 hrs ago, Robin! Just tried my first ever attempt to cut firring strips from 45x95 C16 using a table saw. Each piece is just over 3.6m so it was tricky to keep the blade on the line (or vice versa). I could've made a much neater job doing it your way and I would only need to handle timber about 1.8m long. Live and learn I suppose. Thanks for a great video!

  • @derekhenry2053
    @derekhenry20534 ай бұрын

    I'm impressed with the cut from that Hilti circular saw Robin it never missed a beat!

  • @andreicotorobai731
    @andreicotorobai731Ай бұрын

    nice .. thanks .. make my life easier 😊

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    Ай бұрын

    Happy to help

  • @SandyMiller737
    @SandyMiller7377 ай бұрын

    Another cracking vid Gromit

  • @Carlos.750
    @Carlos.7507 ай бұрын

    From a carpenterwho's still in his 30's but had to retire due to illness I just want to say how much I love your videos and would have loved to have you as my teacher when an apprentice. A credit to the trade robin!

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you Carlos!!

  • @tmenzella
    @tmenzella7 ай бұрын

    Lovely Hilti saw ripped that no drama, plenty of grunt. Yet another fantastic tip and video from a gent and a true craftsman.

  • @Seqhael
    @SeqhaelАй бұрын

    I’m 7 years in but no longer have the old boys on site to learn from anymore, I’m always learning something new from your videos, thank you, they’re so valuable to me and my work

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    Ай бұрын

    Glad to help

  • @samposton9101
    @samposton91017 ай бұрын

    Great tip Robin. Super work as always!

  • @markpope6162
    @markpope61627 ай бұрын

    One word. Genius!

  • @musicmeadow1868
    @musicmeadow18687 ай бұрын

    Learnt something as always!! Thanks!

  • @ElekTrikPurple1
    @ElekTrikPurple17 ай бұрын

    Hi Robin, love your tips of the trade, great learning from you. Thanks

  • @leeedwards3783
    @leeedwards37837 ай бұрын

    Always wondered how those were done. Great tip. Thank you

  • @andymarcpayne6913
    @andymarcpayne69137 ай бұрын

    Cool tip Robin. Keep up the great work 👍

  • @videogalore
    @videogalore7 ай бұрын

    Love it!

  • @plummetplum
    @plummetplum6 ай бұрын

    Now thats, clever, great tip.

  • @coops6621
    @coops66217 ай бұрын

    Now that's a good one Robin, brilliant, thanks for sharing

  • @fredbloggs8816
    @fredbloggs88167 ай бұрын

    So clever!

  • @therealdojj
    @therealdojj7 ай бұрын

    Brave man cutting that without a table saw 😯 We used to cut one and then use it as the angle on the table saw with a fence to repeat the cut Never thought of your way though, pretty smart not having to find a longer bit of timber too that could be as wavy as the sea

  • @u2kjib4cjkqn

    @u2kjib4cjkqn

    7 ай бұрын

    That’s I thought table saw more accurate

  • @samnichols4361

    @samnichols4361

    3 ай бұрын

    At 2m long, if you've got a tracksaw, you can just use it l - lay the track down the line clamp the timber to another piece to support the track either end. Dead straight.

  • @terencecottington4273
    @terencecottington42737 ай бұрын

    Simple but brilliant.

  • @grotekleum
    @grotekleum7 ай бұрын

    That's brilliant, I wouldn't have thought of that, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @chuckmoney1688
    @chuckmoney16887 ай бұрын

    This is the problem with you trades, you tell me one year after I've bought them. Typical. In future please predict my requirements.

  • @alanpowell24
    @alanpowell247 ай бұрын

    Love your videos Robin - keep them coming………

  • @RusstafaB
    @RusstafaB7 ай бұрын

    The simplicity of your tips and tricks is awesome. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @nigelscott1922
    @nigelscott19227 ай бұрын

    Nice one Robin!

  • @richardcapey-wade8191
    @richardcapey-wade81916 ай бұрын

    Bloody hell, being carpenter 30 years plus and never thought of that, feel a bit daft now, did my extension flat roof last year and this would have saved time materials and money duh, keep informing us, cheers

  • @surfrico
    @surfrico7 ай бұрын

    Another genius tip from you Robin. Thanks for sharing. I'm really interested in how you complete the roof covering and also the weatherproof transition between the existing wall and the new roof. Hope you film some of that.

  • @NIIICKII
    @NIIICKII6 ай бұрын

    Loving the fact you're using Hilti tools ❤

  • @robertperrin9316
    @robertperrin93167 ай бұрын

    Very good…. I like that

  • @thomascoyne157
    @thomascoyne1577 ай бұрын

    Very handy to know 👍👍👍👍

  • @EddBarnett
    @EddBarnett7 ай бұрын

    Absolutely class mate, saves using a whole 4.8M with a bow in it and pinging a line 👍👍

  • @jeromephilipon750
    @jeromephilipon7507 ай бұрын

    Awesome and insightful as usual. Thank you

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @thornwarbler
    @thornwarbler7 ай бұрын

    Clever. Thanks for that 👍

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    No problem 👍

  • @JBSeymour
    @JBSeymour7 ай бұрын

    Love the LH blade saws. Fills your pockets full of dust

  • @paulwestlake4278
    @paulwestlake42787 ай бұрын

    Jimmy Genius at work. 😁

  • @paulfinnonjoinery
    @paulfinnonjoinery7 ай бұрын

    nice one... never actually thought of it that way before. last flat roof i worked on of a decent size was in a ship yard near newcastle. it was maybe 6 meters wide by atleast 150 meters long. absolutely rotten. had to slowly move along and do the whole job in small sections. we were on it for weeks and weeks. there was grass growing in the rooms beneath it. excellent video as id never thought of how to make these before. we had to order the firings for that job from a timber yard and loads of them were no good as they had made them wrong.

  • @user-ns7xg7vo8b
    @user-ns7xg7vo8b7 ай бұрын

    You’re a top carpenter . My teacher from Donegal would be impressed by your carpentry ability. He was master carpenter here in Ireland he teach in schools etc🇮🇪.

  • @elliejake11
    @elliejake117 ай бұрын

    Really appreciate this video, this is defo a better way then me doing them on the table saw👍thanks Robbin

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad to help

  • @jonfenwick6200
    @jonfenwick62007 ай бұрын

    Love these tips. Nice one robin.

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @grahameviner2835
    @grahameviner28357 ай бұрын

    All the reviews on the heavyweight battery guns and still those lightweight paslodes are used. great vids Robin keep up the good work

  • @totaltouring829
    @totaltouring8296 ай бұрын

    Craftsmanship. Simple and just a superb idea.

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Cheers!

  • @MrJFoster1984
    @MrJFoster19844 ай бұрын

    Great tip mate 👍

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @sygad1
    @sygad17 ай бұрын

    1 handed free cutting......that's a baller move right there ;-)

  • @megaman2016
    @megaman20167 ай бұрын

    Very smart 🤓

  • @normanwatson9056
    @normanwatson90567 ай бұрын

    you're superstar carpenter, I wish I became a carpenter instead of a welder

  • @DailyGrower

    @DailyGrower

    7 ай бұрын

    The grass is always greener and all that :P

  • @gregorymacneil2836
    @gregorymacneil28367 ай бұрын

    Good Video!

  • @GlynnPowell
    @GlynnPowellАй бұрын

    You make it look so simple Robin (which I love) but your skill cutting that 2m so perfectly freehand is impressive for a wood butcher like myself!

  • @chrismalings4483
    @chrismalings44837 ай бұрын

    Did this once myself with a jig. Admire you doing it freehand and no clamps.

  • @SJWardBuilders
    @SJWardBuilders7 ай бұрын

    nice!!

  • @KeithDonegan
    @KeithDonegan7 ай бұрын

    The 🐐 🪚

  • @bikerchrisukk
    @bikerchrisukk7 ай бұрын

    Superb work as always 👏 Right or wrong I doubled up the wall plate on one side so the joists were 1:40, when I needed a workshop quick.

  • @moomastico
    @moomastico7 ай бұрын

    Yo chief I know you're hot on the old hearing protection ( as we all should be ) so have a look at the iso tunes pro aware range. It's not cheap but really clever stuff and it works really well.

  • @dwalsh3469
    @dwalsh34697 ай бұрын

    Very helpful. I’m doing a triangular shed / low end garden room. If I picked the high wall, made firring boards as if it was a rectangular shape, and then cut the firring strips on the hypotenuse, I think I’m right that the fall is uniform and the roof sheets sit flat? It’s a bit of a mind bender for me but I think that is right.

  • @RichieRich845
    @RichieRich8457 ай бұрын

    👍.

  • @alexmoules8630
    @alexmoules86307 ай бұрын

    After I rip all mine I put them all together on a flat surface and knock them level then cut the thick ends flush. It's surprising how much difference you get.

  • @pedrostokoe1980
    @pedrostokoe19807 ай бұрын

    your some boi robin lad

  • @marekmarko2274
    @marekmarko22747 ай бұрын

    Guys who want to use table saw use table saw at the time you load and unload it he is done and you wouldn't even start yet. Take the information what he give until he is willing to do it. I believe he is one of the best carpenters.He is doing all framing and finishes as well. Many carpenters don't even know how to hang a door. The second master carpenter is Larry Haun who was willing to share the knowledge and left his experience for next generation.

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you Marek!!!!!

  • @robertbamford8266
    @robertbamford82667 ай бұрын

    True confessions. Has to watch it twice to catch on to the fact that the width of the board was the high point in the fall (less 10 mm). Thanks for the tip. There’s a video called something like “making super shims” that shows the use of a table saw.

  • @rockandmeatroll
    @rockandmeatroll3 ай бұрын

    Brilliant demonstration I have to build something similar, what size nail did you shoot in?

  • @arncj18
    @arncj187 ай бұрын

    meter system in Uk, i love it as a non imperial user:D

  • @alexmorgan3435
    @alexmorgan34357 ай бұрын

    Genius. Thank you so much for sharing your tips. I am thinking of extending rear of my garage attached to my house and fall of the roof was something that was troubling me. So simple when you are shown by an expert. Would you be able to say what the building regs are for requirements of falls for flat roofs eg over spans of 2m, 3m, 4m, etc? Many thanks. ATB.

  • @richardcapey-wade8191

    @richardcapey-wade8191

    6 ай бұрын

    1 degree pitch is all that I was required by my architect and BC

  • @SteveWardellDIY
    @SteveWardellDIY7 ай бұрын

    Nice. I do like the saws. Do you have different blades in them for cross cut and ripping?

  • @johnnyg1700
    @johnnyg17007 ай бұрын

    Wish I'd known about this quick fix before I built my garden room. outstanding Robin.

  • @531c
    @531c7 ай бұрын

    Great advice there Robin. I always cut my own firrings like that as its good to be able tolay the decking on a nice flat plane. Whenever i got firrings cut at a timber merchant they were usually all different angles never even two the same, i guess the lads cutting them dont realise the importance of accuracy as they dont fit them

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Very True, most firings that you buy from merchants are pants

  • @FiscalWoofer
    @FiscalWoofer7 ай бұрын

    Those Hilti saws look nice, although I don’t think as fast as the Hikoki 36v you used to use?

  • @davelever2550
    @davelever25507 ай бұрын

    Great advice, now let’s see diminishing firings lol

  • @yazidamir
    @yazidamir7 ай бұрын

    Morning Robin do you prefer the hilti to Milwaukee cordless saws 🤔

  • @bdizzle7633
    @bdizzle76337 ай бұрын

    Robin you are a superior tradesman and someone who’s videos I admire, however for the 1st time ever I’m not sure I’d be buying 4.2m firrings and shooting them straight in whipping the 200mm off, surely by the time you’ve calculated labour cost of ripping and the materials as a pose too just buying them and shooting them straight on in this scenario is beneficial.? But that’s the beauty of trades we all have our own opinions and interpretations and I’ve stolen lots of yours 👍🏻

  • @keithrobson2168
    @keithrobson21686 ай бұрын

    Hi Robin need advice on french drains ,have to dry out a clay garden that is constantly in water and starting to affect brickwork on house do I put in several and how to join IE do I use t pieces then feed into solid 150 mm pipe to drain ect cheers

  • @olgajoachimosmundsen4647
    @olgajoachimosmundsen46477 ай бұрын

    Hey Robin, where do you stand on 15 vs 16g nailers? I've got a 18g and framer, but wondering what to buy next.

  • @shaunhennessy603
    @shaunhennessy6037 ай бұрын

    Once you've done your first freehand firing..... Fix that to your bench and a 4x2 next to it. Now use your rip fence against the firing you've just cut and hey presto you cut 2 firings in one pass. Similar to what you're doing but the rip fence is better at repeat cuts than freehand. Once you're set up.. No measuring or following a line.

  • @callumaitken668
    @callumaitken6687 ай бұрын

    How are those new paslodes? Worth the money vs standard one?

  • @edc1569
    @edc15697 ай бұрын

    Knowing the trades I hire, id rather get them ready made.

  • @Maisie.walker
    @Maisie.walker7 ай бұрын

    How would you make it flow into one corner rather than just all fall forward. As in if you want the water falling all to the forward right side of the roof?

  • @joefanningartist
    @joefanningartist2 ай бұрын

    Do you do the same with every single joist?

  • @josephwinston5318
    @josephwinston53186 ай бұрын

    Hi mate Genuinely interested, how will the box gutter work when it’s 10mm at the end of firing. Was this just a sample of a firring. Otherwise you would have allowed for the extra buildup up for the box gutter fall also.

  • @peterfitzpatrick7032
    @peterfitzpatrick70327 ай бұрын

    I had a leak on my flat roof that was intermittent, I had several builders look at it and all wanted to tear it off and re-do it FLAT !!...fine and all, but I hadn't got the money.. My theory was that the asphalt felt was weeping at the overlap somewhere, but healing in summer heat... soo... after watching Roger use that Liquid Roof, I decided to try it first and if I still get the leak I'll be doing what Robin is showing here... personally, I think flat roofs should be bloody-well banned !! 🙄😂 The liquid roof is workin so far.. 😣🤞

  • @jvd5607
    @jvd560726 күн бұрын

    Hi. How would you make one for a 9 meter run? I have a garage roof that is quite long but flat.

  • @fantasticfox411
    @fantasticfox4116 ай бұрын

    That Hilti handled that rip well. What blade are you running in that?

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    6 ай бұрын

    This is the standard issue blade that comes with the saw

  • @davidconnolly7346
    @davidconnolly73467 ай бұрын

    How do you know what pitch it is and whether the fall complies with the minimum pitch of the roofing you’re using?

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    From experience in my case. The minimum is 1 in 80, I prefer about 1 in 50 which is what my ones in this video are

  • @stuartjones2242
    @stuartjones22427 ай бұрын

    Hi robin , would you do firing every joist or every other joist ?

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Every joist

  • @6panel300
    @6panel3007 ай бұрын

    I have always cut firrings with a table saw or bandsaw. after marking and the first one I use half butted up against the next piece of timber and using a fence slide through together. This method is certainly a good alternative.But the thing I like best about this video is the fact that he is not wearing hi-vis nor a hard hat and he is just striding about on the joists. It's the way we all used to work and never had a problem. It's only the pen pushers that are too scared to do a proper days graft that have somehow thought we all need to wrapped in cotton wool to do jobs we have been doing for years without a problem. Yes ear defenders are a good idea.

  • @Dazza19746
    @Dazza197467 ай бұрын

    That’s genius mate! I’ve never thought to do that! Did you come up with the idea yourself? Honest injun! Santa is listening! 👂 🧑‍🎄 😂

  • @JamesBond-xq3tw
    @JamesBond-xq3tw7 ай бұрын

    No glue ?

  • @johnmorrissey1675
    @johnmorrissey16757 ай бұрын

    What are the new Hilti tools like ☘️🇮🇪👍

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Different level!!!!

  • @mrsbradpittiful
    @mrsbradpittiful7 ай бұрын

    Heaps easier to install the rafters on a rake and to fur out the ceiling perpendicular to the rafters which also provides a service cavity

  • @garyharrisonuk

    @garyharrisonuk

    7 ай бұрын

    I understand 'install the rafters on a rake' but you lost me on 'fur out the ceiling perpendicular' ... can you explain thx

  • @mrsbradpittiful

    @mrsbradpittiful

    7 ай бұрын

    @@garyharrisonuk batten out the underside of the rafters (ceiling) and run the batterns the opposite way (perpendicular) to the rafters. Pack batterns as required to accommodate for the rake of the rafters so the ceiling is flat

  • @garyharrisonuk

    @garyharrisonuk

    7 ай бұрын

    @@mrsbradpittiful I see. I was thinking you meant somehow using firing strips below the joists to level the ceiling. I like your method but individually packing/levelling each batten sounds time consuming? Thanks

  • @mrsbradpittiful

    @mrsbradpittiful

    7 ай бұрын

    @@garyharrisonuk takes stuff all. Set up a laser and off you go. And it’s a great chance to level the ceiling and take out and discrepancies that the dresses rafters have: eg different timber sizes or crowning. Each to their own. Cheers

  • @TBird89

    @TBird89

    7 ай бұрын

    @@mrsbradpittifulus aussies would’ve done the rafter at a pitch and do a suspended ceiling below similar to what your saying. Shouldn’t touch the roof members more than once. The other thing he could’ve done was start with a 35mm batten laid perpendicular at the gutter line and use whatever sized member at the wall and string a line and use packers as battens for the metal roof. Old mate has been making videos that are useless lately. Running out of work maybe.

  • @1987pagey
    @1987pagey7 ай бұрын

    Hey Robin did you counter baton as well for cross air flow ?

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    This is a warm roof so we do not need to ventilate the roof space

  • @1987pagey

    @1987pagey

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ukconstruction ahh I see

  • @jochippyy
    @jochippyy6 ай бұрын

    What if your timber is bent?

  • @jonny7491
    @jonny74917 ай бұрын

    Just curious and I know there’s going to be a good answer but why would you not just raise the beams at the house end to create the fall?

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    We would then have an out of level ceiling

  • @gordonclark7632
    @gordonclark76327 ай бұрын

    I can't cut a straight line with a guide and you do it free hand. No wonder I get depressed trying to make things.

  • @09conrado
    @09conrado7 ай бұрын

    I can make a flat roof fall. Easy. Just cut away all the supports and it comes down right easy

  • @edc1569
    @edc15697 ай бұрын

    Camera operator risking it all to film you while going down a ladder!

  • @rc3171
    @rc31712 ай бұрын

    I’d use a 4m length then you get 2 pieces every cut

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes we sometimes do this but many long timbers are not straight so when you are marking the firring from end to end with say a chalk line as there are not many 4m straight edges around, you have to hold the long timber dead straight. Making a single firring from a short timber is much more accurate and easier to handle on your own

  • @clarkthurman5580
    @clarkthurman55807 ай бұрын

    Didn’t see any hikoki robin 😢

  • @billysalter8734
    @billysalter87346 ай бұрын

    Sorry I’m not a chippie but could you not just make the beam attached to the wall abit higher so you got a fall to save using more wood

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, but the ceiling would be out of level

  • @billysalter8734

    @billysalter8734

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ukconstruction oh yeah wicked thank you

  • @m2dat791
    @m2dat7917 ай бұрын

    Another thing about buying firings is they are up nd down all over the place. Awful standard to them

  • @stuartandrews4344

    @stuartandrews4344

    7 ай бұрын

    And making your own firrings is probably half the price you pay for ready cut firring length..

  • @angrygromit93
    @angrygromit937 ай бұрын

    for a moment I read that as "How to fall off a flat roof"

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Blimey!! glad I stayed upright!!!

  • @Anonymous-si7oc

    @Anonymous-si7oc

    Ай бұрын

    Dummy

  • @user-cs8ni9sc2c
    @user-cs8ni9sc2c7 ай бұрын

    Heads up Robin, flat roof design fall should be 1:40 to allow for 1:80 fall allowing for deflection. Off the shelf firrings I've measured on site have sometimes been as shallow as 1:120.

  • @ukconstruction

    @ukconstruction

    7 ай бұрын

    Building Regs in England says a minimum of 1 in 80, these ones I cut where about 1 in 50 and I like that for a flat roof

  • @scottnever8732
    @scottnever87327 ай бұрын

    if only every tradesman had enough money to buy the tools you have. Hilti is hired???? what happened to fest tool?

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