How to: Lock a Trans-axle or Differential
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
A Detailed step-by-step tutorial on locking lawn mower differential. This is the method I have used for years and it has never failed me. Welding is required.
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What I've learned from this video: Be careful with your little balls Dump your fluids before go to town Grease your shaft Use a rubber if you can
@flat-earther
Жыл бұрын
7eis I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
This is one of the best, if not the best training video I have seen. Excellent explanation as well as detailed warning. Great job!!!!
Thanks man! I do my best, and I like helping people start/build there projects. As of right now, youtube is my only outlet.
You know, I've seen a lot of comments over the years by people requesting you do a 4x4 lawn tractor... You really only need a secondary trans-axle and cut the out hub mounts off and put on two u-joints from a Jeep Wrangler steering shaft. Do a flat grind on opposing sides to have your surface and snug down the set screws. You could weld them, but that wastes the axle in the event a joint fails. You can buy heavy duty steering joints for around $16 to $20 and just use a secondary drive belt on your motor. It'll work easily! I may try to make a 4x4 because I'm bored and because our zero turn gets stuck fast... This would make for a great recovery vehicle as well as a great toy!
@flat-earther
Жыл бұрын
That's cool did you do it?? BTW Aint I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
Man, I love your videos! Ive locked my rearend in my Craftsman by watching your video and installed a gas pedal the same way you have shown in your other video. Its actually as easy as you make it look. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge. Keep up the great work.
Thought I'd add in, as I've "Lincoln-locked" over 20 axles in my lifetime. Never a lawnmower one, but everything from 240sx pumpkins up to 14bolts. As far as welding the backside due to machined surfaces - it doesn't matter, since it's not going to spin anymore. Welding the inside is actually worse, since that center pin is a hardened steel shaft and has now been annealed along the haz (in the weakest possible spot). Place small BOLTS in the meshing gear teeth and weld all the teeth to the bolts, then to the adjacent gear. Then weld anywhere the gears mesh. Avoid the cast iron housing (in this case sun gear), and the pin. Definitely DO NOT weld to the axle shafts. Replace the c-clips, or replace with the other spring style ones (which removes the need to grind the shafts as well).
@mark97213
2 жыл бұрын
I have a Craftsman pro 54" and would like to have a limited slip diff but failing that, a locking diff. Will a posi tear up the lawn at all if there are a lot of turns?
@alexbustos8007
2 жыл бұрын
You would be right about that if it was a car but it isn’t so it dosent see anywhere near the rpm range as an automotive diff would
Excellent video. You kept it moving without a lot of BS. Lots of information. Thanks Todd.
I weld the spiders onto the axle because in the past, I have broken those internal c-clips. I had my wheel, hub, and axle slide right out of my transaxle case while I was "side hill-ing" in my back yard. so now I weld them on. I have been running a similar setup in another off road tractor for about 5 years with no problems as of yet. Thanks for the comment!
man what a great instructional video! Thanks so much for making it. Im new to mower modding but i am really enjoying working on these machines :)
@flat-earther
Жыл бұрын
Luke I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
thanks for the tip, I didn't know they made anything like that. I'll have to find some
Dude,u r the man! I once welded a half inch hammer drill main shaft back together . It ran out of balance and shook ,but I got the drilling jobs done before it shit the bed .
This really helped me the most because I have the exact same trans axle. The foote 3864. I'm planning on locking mine real soon thanks to this video
HEYYY!!! haha i just realized you credited me to the bushing thing in this video, thanks man your the first person that actually gave me credit for something i think
this had worked awesome i tried it and it was the best thing ever. you are a genius.
@spazotis
10 жыл бұрын
NOT A GENIOUS DONT USE BRAKECLEAN TO CLEAN YOUR PARTS AND THEN WELD DEADLY GAS WILL KILL YOU
@prancstaman
10 жыл бұрын
spazotis Yes, Spazotis is right Fearless, Deadly gas is made with Brakeclean when welding with it wet on the part or dried on the part.. Safer to just wipe part off with dry rag. Please be safe.
I know these videos are old but man is your stuff informative!
Sounds good man, it's a lot more fun than it seems like it would be.
WAIT FOR THE BRAKLEEN TO DRY BEFORE YOU WELD! I am still growing back my eyebrows!
@hunger993
8 жыл бұрын
+Conn0isseur Dana hahaha learning from experience
@weedconnoiseur
8 жыл бұрын
Experience is key haha
@ChipsMcC
8 жыл бұрын
+Conn0isseur Dana ...and welding fumes and brakkleen vapors mix into a mustard gas :) not good lol.
@grandmaarnold4144
6 жыл бұрын
Wiring harness6
@grandmaarnold4144
6 жыл бұрын
Conn0isseur Dana white
I welded mine it was awesome!!! For about 35mins 😂 my whole casing exploded
@deelee6786
4 жыл бұрын
didnt use enough grease i bet ;p;p;p
@eflanagan1921
4 жыл бұрын
@@deelee6786 Too much torque !
@Ryan-ce9le
4 жыл бұрын
You missed 8:50 😂
Hey fearless never commented on ur video before but I saw this bid like 6 months ago and I was so interested now I'm 17 and I would like to do this thanks so much ur the best!!
I am just now finding your channel. I enjoyed watching you guys romp in the mud mowers. I have so many questions but, I am going to try everything myself with as little advice as possible. Thanks for sharing how to do this. I was really afraid my tractor would get stuck a lot but now that I saw your video here, I am def gonna try locking my dif. I am already raising the mower 12" higher and so between the lift and the locker, I feel confident I can go anywhere! Next problem, how to swap pulleys so it goes faster lol
Greasing your shaft is great
@honda-s2k
3 жыл бұрын
I bet you love greasing your shaft 😄
@hilljackzack7284
3 жыл бұрын
the dark lord 🤣😂 this reply killed me.
@arberfilms2302
3 жыл бұрын
@@honda-s2k context alert lmao.
When reassembling a trans-axle that is greased would it hurt as an extra layer of protection to run a think layer of gasket maker around the outside edges to help keep water and other contaminants out?
Man thank you for such an informative video im so looking forward to tearing My ride on down and starting a project
We did that to one of my cars long long ago. We just welded the gear teeth, so it didn't weaken any of the shafts. The shop did that to most of the dedicated oval track race cars for various racing classes. They never had any differential related failures. My car was a 1982 Firebird with a 2.8 v6 and 4 speed stick. We upgraded it to a SBC 350 (v8). Stock differential it was open. We just welded the spider gears without disassembling anything other than the cover. I drove and raced that car ("spectator" street car class) for a few more years after that. It was finally sent to the bone yard when the body twisted too much, and the firewall cracked. I was really hard on that car. It was nice that burnouts were always equal length parallel lines. Much better than the one wheel squeal. I can't recommend that anyone does it to a car, because of the obvious wear issues. But it was a lot of fun to drive. There is one thing about doing this. In the car, it was hard to turn in parking lots, and one wheel scuffed through the turn. I sometimes had to bump the gas to turn. On a mower, if you're turning sharp, it will tear up the grass under the wheel that scuffs. But if you're just using it to drive around fields, or you only do wide turns while mowing, it'll work great.
Good Video! Also sound advice on how to loosen and tighten the bolts on a cast alu gearbox - not many people heed that.
@Fearlessfront
10 жыл бұрын
Thomas Bögel thats right, and it probably one of the most important things to remember
@carwashadamcooper1538
5 жыл бұрын
Same goes for a cylinder head.
if you have oxy-acetylene torches light your acetylene and let them smoke where there making suet which is a black smoke if you run the flame over the steel it forms a coating on the steel when you weld with the mig all the splatter will not stick and saves you going with a screw driver removing the splatter! if you have a piston on like a hydraulic cylinder and your welding around it you can suet the chrome rod do your welding and then just wipe off the black smoke and you won't have any damage to the rod.
@wjackstl
8 жыл бұрын
wow, good tip....I'll have to remember that
@owpeterj
8 жыл бұрын
A great tip. many thanks
@mag2395
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip I'll have to try that!
@richardanderson5109
5 жыл бұрын
What are you doing ,feeding birds ????(SOOT)
@Imnotyourdoormat
4 жыл бұрын
dynamight TNT tip!!!.........
thanks fearless im in the process of building my own mudding mower right now pulled a trans axle off a donner mower and trying to get it apart your videos have helped alot now hopefuly this fabricator can lock a transaxle. by the way the mower im building is a hydrostat so got to swap her out
Ive used this video to lock two of my garden tractors. Great information, thank you
lol. "try to use a rubber if you can" good advice
You can cut down on the weld splatter by spraying the area with WD-40 before welding.
@bryduhbikeguy
6 жыл бұрын
Thnx.I'll remember that.I suck at mig.
Hey Fearless Front - I enjoy your videos. I am in the process of making a side x side True Utility Cart, using a Yardman 18 HP, 14 spd Garden/Lawn Tractor. I hope to put another rear on front & cut axiles ends, add steering U joints, bearings to front for a 4x4. Extend steering shaft, add U joint & bearings, to be able to move steering wheel to right side of cart. Cart frame will go over existing tractor frame, using 1" heavy walled tubing. GREAT GOING!
I like ur work my son and i are building one also to me it looks like you know what your doing when it comes to welding and building mud mowers
I locked mine and now my tires spin backwards when it is in a forward gear.
@sgtblooper11brav42
3 жыл бұрын
Oh no 😂😂
@crkvenazvonahr8668
3 жыл бұрын
You conected the gear seltcion backwards
@ziamckeithen1322
3 жыл бұрын
You put the axle in upside down
@jaanuspapp1333
2 жыл бұрын
Fuck it, just put it in reverse
@fiddlerpin
2 жыл бұрын
What advantage is there to locking the transaxle. It’s just a lawn tractor.
hey great video...very professional, but you need some good before and after field-test video in mud, sand, gravel, water, snow, ice....uphill/downhill...itll really show off the improvement, especially with a loaded trailer...they,ll launch a john-boat in a muddy farm-pond after the conversion....still good video tho.
I just used your video to lock a Peerless 920 transaxle. I works perfect. Thanks
Very informative video young man very good job would not be afraid to attempt this job after watching this video thank you
I know this video is old but could I just weld all the spider gears together instead of welding it all separate?
@lucianoguerra9013
6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that to but. The two rods and their spider gear but the little one taking it out an welding it without proper measurements it would most likely be misaligned. Sense if the metal heats up it expanse even a little an when it cools it may not fit back in an the other spider gears would be in the wrong position so its best to weld them in the position they fit best. Other wise its back to the drawing board. Thank you Loader.
I have been working on mowers for about 3 yrs and I think guy know his shit and that was a Dam good job I will be doing the same thing to my 2 mowers tomorrow thank you for your help.
@Fearlessfront
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and make sure you check the alignment of those internal bronze bushings. they have little tabs on them and are easy to over look. It's still catches me by surprize every once and a while
@AztecWarrior69
6 жыл бұрын
Ralph Stevens well how is it going with those two mowers. Broken yet? Wearing out tires faster? Honest Update? What this guy should be doing is replacing the clips and not welding the spider gears. There is reasons why they don't come welded. He should take the other gears to a machine shop and have a keyway cut into them. Gives or doesn't take away the gears ability to mesh ad needed.
Thanks for the how too, I'll definitely be giving it a try to my early 90s model Tory built lawn and garden tractor that has the plow implement system on it.
Awesome video MR FEARLESS ! very informative
4:16 "try to use a rubber if you can" ohh hell yeah i always use a rubber!!!
@flat-earther
Жыл бұрын
Neil I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
All you need to do is weld closed three teeth on the 🕷️ gear, and than weld the opposing three teeth. Do all for gears.
@KL_daddy
Жыл бұрын
I have one of these on my mower that came off a tractor and when i put it in reverge gear it moves forward but when i put it in gear 1-5 it moves backwards is there a way to fix this?
@shanec5617
10 ай бұрын
@@KL_daddy Your belt is routed wrong causing the trans to spin backward.
I've seen it done that way, but I always thought doing it that way would cause the teath to have a lot of pressure as they were "trying" to mesh. If it stressed too much, it could pop the cheap aluminum case.
i locked my transaxle using this method, you make it look easy getting the axles and spider gears in! when i did mine i took it to school and used the varsal tank and cleaned all the gears and the case, re greaced averything really good, i packed both sides and i had greace ozzing out putting it back together, i used almost 2 cans of greace! and mine would not spin at all, i thought i had all the bushings aligned but i guess not, but it wore it self in in about 10 mins,
oh sure, we don't need no differential, we have vodka
He greased his shafts
I love the way You think and act on it. You are truely feerless. It must be a very old transaxel with grease and no oil. Go man go
Thanks man, locking the rear makes it a lot more fun to ride!
@jesusm540
4 жыл бұрын
Amaesen video my tractor run good Tenkyou
what about a hydro lawn tractor
@muddy_armadillo
6 жыл бұрын
yes
To bad manufacture's don't just make a button you could push & have instant posi track.
@samdittmar5142
6 жыл бұрын
Cruiser007 by Kubota tractor has a lever to lock it when you need extra traction.
@browneboyzderbyteam5756
5 жыл бұрын
Our new husqvarna lawn tractor has an electric locking rear end! Works greay
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
5 жыл бұрын
No Rubicon mowers?
Your awesome at everything fearless. Got my respect
Dude is a professor! Amazing detail and pointers!
@flat-earther
Жыл бұрын
jbobnat I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
whats this guy doing here? I was searching for blinker fluid reviews
Can u lock a hydrostatic transmission
@greature
6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@devinleecapshaw1509
6 жыл бұрын
No
@muddy_armadillo
6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@AztecWarrior69
6 жыл бұрын
No. Ok next comment needs to be yes. LOL
@rokstarwannabe
6 жыл бұрын
Yes. If you're awesome enough to weld hydraulic fluid, you can lock a hydrostatic transmission.
hello friend,just wanted to comment on the professional presentation of your video.it was very informative,and entertaining.it is rare to find a young man that is able to orate as clearly about a subject,as you have done.seems like a lot of kids do not take enough time with their words nowadays,seems like every thing is f-this,and f-that. thank you very much,have a nice Christmas. Cheers from Colorado
Great job and good job explaining everything you're very good at what you do thank you
what should u do if the rims dont come off the axle
@countrygamer7280
8 жыл бұрын
then the rim is ceased what I did was I grinded the rim of the axle it took me about 2 days to grind it off
@tannermarlow5162
7 жыл бұрын
Country Gamer 2 days? with what, a nail file?
@DM-kv8mn
6 жыл бұрын
this reply might be a little bit late but you can make a puller out of a piece of flat bar and 2 bolts and 2 nuts, cut the flat bar to fit inside the rim, drill or cut holes in the flat bar that match the holes in the rim, if there is no holes in the rim drill one on each side of the shaft, put the bolts through the holes in the rim and the bar, put the nuts on and tighten evenly holding the bolt on the back side and tightening the nut on the front side, when the shaft is flush with the rim put a socket between the flat bar and the shaft and continue until it comes off, make sure the socket is a little bit smaller than the shaft
@AztecWarrior69
6 жыл бұрын
D M or you can just go get a rent a tool puller from AutoZone or places like that.
@AztecWarrior69
6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Chase if the rim doesn't come off the use of a GOOD torch with rosebud combined with a pull puller will do the trick in most cases. Remember to try and not heat the shaft directly, just the rim.
not safe to weld anything that has ever had brake cleaner on it. but other wise very informative video
@dylandekam5763
8 жыл бұрын
only if it was chlorinated brake cleaner, it creates very deadly gases
@bcubed72
7 жыл бұрын
Chlorinated brake cleaner evaporates! If it's dry, not an issue. (OTOH, non-chlorinated brake cleaner is highly flammable...would you sooner die of cancer, in three decades, or in a fire, in three days?)
wow this was way easier..i was going to try to machine a full shaft and final gear for my tractor..just finished this today using your method and will test it out tomorrow with some bashing through the woods..
@warmfreeze
10 жыл бұрын
***** hasn't broken yet used it today to pull close to a ton of sand in the cart so +5 for griffindor
Just wanted to say Thank You for the throrough and clear Video. I learned a lot today ;) :D
Is that a Spicer????
@Fearlessfront
10 жыл бұрын
it's a Foote
@zachsgarage4714
10 жыл бұрын
what is that?? it looks like a Spicer.
@zachsgarage4714
10 жыл бұрын
is Foote made by Spicer?????
@Fearlessfront
10 жыл бұрын
Zach'sGarage channel Not that I know of. Not sure though
@zachsgarage4714
10 жыл бұрын
Fearlessfront it is a DANA/FOOTE/SPICER transaxle.
Does this work for cars
Great vid! Thanks for taking the time to video.I know it's a pain to tape while working.
Wow great training video the best I've seen.
Thanks Fearless i am locking my diff well my dad is cause hes welding at his shop just wanted to send you a comment that you are doing a great job and i will have some romping vids up soon
yes you can, I am actually doing one right now. just waiting on gaskets to finish it up. but there will be a video of the process
Dude, you do a well illustated video. Very through..clear. Thanks for your time.
absoulty enjoy ur channels fearless one video I have not seen on ur how to is cleaning carbs the older one peace and the newer style 2 peace that u seen on ohv and some of the newer flathead engines thanks and keep the videos comin cant wait to see the sears completely done and on its first romp!
Thanks fearless, I took it apart today and it was easy as hell to lock. The vertical split ones are so much easier let me tell ya. You can pull the whole assembly out in one piece and weld it outside of the case and not get slag all over. The only problem was that I accidentally shifted into a different gear while it was apart and all the gears got out of wack. It took me about 2 hours to get them all back the way they were considering I had no clue where they went and no diagram.
Cool! Mower modding is hella fun!
I have this same type of locker in my offroader, been running it for 4+ years with 20" tires and a pulley swap. In fact, I just swapped out to a new trans, and swapped my old locker into the new trans because it's held up so long
best KZreadr iv ever watched :)
I did this in my drift car years ago. Very easy. I pretty much did the same thing you did just on a car differential lol.
Excellent video, very informative... also note the grease fittings on the case for the axle output shafts
Took mine apart last night, forgot about those two little hidden bolts in the center that were on the bottom. Good thing I remembered you mentioning it, or I would have been out a transmission!
@dustlink97 I believe those have the differential built into the axle. so its a little different, but if you can get the axle apart, then you can probably do it
Great video. Well spoken. Cool trick to make this happen. Thnx
I see. That is a great idea. Thanks for sharing your talents with everybody.
@Fearlessfront I haven't cracked the trans yet, but I think that's the plan for tomorrow night. As long as the gears are the same, I will do it the exact same way you describe here. I ordered a new engine pulley that will be in at the end of the week. Hopefully by the weekend I can start re-assembly. Thanks man!
I have locked a few mowers just like this method. Works very well, but just my opinion here. I tend to go mudding more than racing or anything else. I prefer to have the axles not locked so i can "shake" or wiggle back and forth to allow one tire to spin then the other. The belt has a lot more strain with it locked, but dougnuts are FUNN. good video.
I Have done this hack and it works great.
Todd, I use a spray with my cheap mig welder when I am worried about slag sticking. You just spray it on everything you don't want it to stick to and after you are done welding the cleanup is a lot easier. Nothing sticks. Its the same stuff you spray in you migs nozzel. It might have come with you welder when you bought it. I also you argon gas with mine. If that makes a difference. I don't know. Very nice video. Excellant.
im making a 4wd lawn mower and so far its going good but this helped alot
This used to be know as a "Lincoln locker" because people would do it with a Lincoln welder. I just welded the spider gears together where they meet and it's been working on my old Sears garden tractor for 25 years. Only draw back is occasionally the tractor wants to go straight even though the front wheels are turned full lock.
Good job! Very good video!
Hey Fearless...I am getting my welding degree right now..and in our shop we have this stuff that comes in an aerosal can called anti-spatter..so if you are welding on stuff that you don't want spatter to get on you just spray it with this stuff and the molten metal metal runs right off of it..just a little tip! awesome vid i will be attempting this on my murray!
i just locked my transaxle, already got my pulleys swapped . i have a craftsman lt1000 with the msd 206 transaxle. i still have to put oil in it ,thanks for all the how to videos.
Great video, will be doing the same thing to my john deere soon
Excellent video. Nice and detaled.
I miss my 04 Impala SS. It was my favorite of all the cara I have had. Super fun and pretty as hell.
@flat-earther
Жыл бұрын
J Way I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
You did a very good job explaining how to do that I'm going to get out my welder and take my transaxle apart and do that thank you very much
@flat-earther
Жыл бұрын
Did you succeed?! BTW William I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.
i did this same thing about 4 years ago on my mower it makes a world of diffrence. when i had mine apart i drilled and tapped drain and fill holes replaced the grease with 80/90 made for much smoother operation
Great job thanks 👍😎 excellent job explaining the job.
I like using a harmonic balancer puller. they work awesome
@thegreatstateofMaine you can try, you'd need axle seals, and rvt silicone. and you would need to drill a fill/drain hole
@EricTehRedneck Yup! it's a lincoln weld pack 100, I love it! I don't know what I would do without it!
@wadekissam22 thats the beauty of doing it this way, if the weld does break, then its not the end of the whole rear axle setup.
Great Vid Bro Works Like A Dream Same Way Ive Done It For Years
Swapped the vertical shaft to a horizontal shaft motor by bolting a six inch pulley to the disc brake rotor . Fine splines on that shaft but I am running 20 hp twin and hasn't stripped the splines yet , if it does I'll just cut in 3/16 keyways . For brakes I kept the horizontal input shaft on and just have a v-belt wrapped around it that I can pull tight ( belt is anchored to the frame ) that will lock up both back wheels a lot better that the original brake system . Used the trans axel and made a three wheeler for the bush . Single front wheel is off a 250cc scooter so has hydraulic disc brake on front wheel . Got speedometer and trip meter . And a sign that says don't drive in farther than your willing to walk out lol
I love it. Thank you so much for showing us
@flat-earther
Жыл бұрын
tutuianu I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.