Summary: The moment you feel yourself fatiguing and becoming frustrated, STOP and take a break. You're maximising your artistic improvement and productivity by taking a break. When you forge full force ahead, putting in 10+ hours a day, there is going to be improvement, but what often happens is it causes burnout.

@d42

3 жыл бұрын

would like to add that its impossible to burn out if youre having fun. if you feel like youre burning out, step back and figure out what you dont like and how you can solve it

@vivelinia7319

3 жыл бұрын

​ @DONRUSH The process of learning efficiently itself isn't always just pure bliss and fun though. Starting from the difficult tasks and tackling the problems you struggle with can literally cause your pain centers in amygdala to fire up in response, yet hyperlearning is all about that challenge and overcoming it in minimal time. The more you let yourself subconsciously avoid the things that you struggle with, the more passive your learning becomes and the less progress you make.

@d42

3 жыл бұрын

@@vivelinia7319 yes which is why you consciously can tackle a problem but still draw something you like as a base. its motivating to know that being trash at one thing is worse than just learning it too

@sirjamesfancy

3 жыл бұрын

Also by stop, specifically stop until you've slept & try again another day. Also don't judge yourself or feel frustrated if you've failed to do what you wanted today, try again tomorrow.

@kenzoo21

3 жыл бұрын

@@d42 I envy people that have an easy time learning. I took japanese classes for like 5 years and learned almost nothing, while my sister learned just by watching a bunch of unsubtitled anime.

An interesting take on learning any skill is the one by stanford neuroscientist Andrew Huberman, who talks about how skill-growth is maximized by optimizing periods of active strain and effective recovery, and that every time you train it's not about draining yourself completely but also NOT about stopping the moment you're fatigued. It's about hitting that wall, pushing a BIT further than you'd like outside your comfort zone, and then getting COMPLETE rest. So somewhat in-line with this take with the added caveat of pushing farther. When you do HIT that wall, reminding yourself that you've really just hit the ceiling, and every moment you push past it is "money in the bank" UNTIL your brain becomes slush. A middle path.

You're always having fun drawing as a kid, you have to find that fun again as an adult too because having fun was what motivated all of us to draw in the first place so it's obviously important. Thanks for another helpful video Sycra!

@Adriiell

3 жыл бұрын

very accurate, building the tools to be able to put your thoughts onto paper is the shitty part, but when you have the tools it is as easy as breathing, and entertaining and relaxing, I enjoy drawing more than I do playing videogames now, and I was extremely addicted for years.

@mrburger3540

2 жыл бұрын

@@Adriiell I envy your Addiction I’m still struggling to get the tools >:(

@TheMarlonMachado

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that Adults Fun are Porn, Terror and Control or Cats, Animals, Win Sports, Makes Money, be Famous, Date, or Get Married.

@KreativeHogwartsLegacyGUIDES

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMarlonMachado you can draw alot of those things, but I agree lol

Having ADHD makes learning things so god damned hard. So much self doubt and lack of motivation really kills any "fun" you have in any situation.

@slacko7500

3 жыл бұрын

Holy crap, you managed to put how I feel into words! My adhd makes it so hard to improve and to stay motivated.

@Randomalistic

3 жыл бұрын

this

@zondwhomlovesjesus8444

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus loves you I'm sorry about that(💕

@roostermaind6413

3 жыл бұрын

My AdHd acutally helped me work more. I did really good work whenevr I could get hyperfocused but that came with so much difficulty. I could rarely get it. SO instead of relying on my short hyperfocus periods I learned to work regardless of my mental state. Tired, distacted, it didn't matter. Sure the output wasnt as great but i could do smaller tasks jsut fine. Then I started doing multiple things at once while working. Listening to music, pdocasts, show, singing kraoke. My adhd couldnt kick in while i ws multi tasking and i got into this super nice state of flow. Don't worry about adhd. You jsut need to learn to work with it instead of surpressing it.

@slacko7500

3 жыл бұрын

@@roostermaind6413 haven't thought of it like that

Gave it a shot and I really wasnt expecting it to work that well. I was struggling hard on the head and getting frustrated, and it was a short session so I felt bad but did decide to stop because of this video. I go back today, and the first thing I did was nail the head! I felt stumped on the hands and frustrated, and now I have faith tomorrow's me can deal with that! :) thank you!

I'm pretty sure I've experienced this before. I started art 2 years ago. There was lots of times where I'd not be too into it but I'd always do "something" each day. I'd throw down some portraits for 10-20 mins and go to bed. Doing this in month periods, it felt like something close to afk grinding because when I'd get back into it, I'd notice great improvements. When I'd grind a lot harder, I'd get more push back from Art, takes some weeks off with my daily minimal activities, and come back so much stronger. Appreciate these videos because they help me understand a lot about many things and my self. Now I'm kinda at the point where I have enough knowledge to know what I need to do to improve so it's just been a road of motivation and fun.

@rolandboo123

3 жыл бұрын

I've been drawing everyday for ~1 year and my goal is to get to where you are: be able to understand what I need to do to improve. Right now it's just a massive anxiety attack whenever I think about it. Probably a good idea to start putting focus on the fun part.

@ejay3k

3 жыл бұрын

@@rolandboo123 Oh, oh yeah dude. Art Anxiety is nuts because you're always attempting new things with very little idea of how it will result in. Compare this to your comfort zone stuff like playing a game. It requires effort to play but you know the outcome, more or less or, for example, something you've done for years and are extremely confident in. ramble ramble rambleee Overall, I battle the art anxiety every day but slowly I'm learning to push through it, this will give you the fastest results with improvement.

@rolandboo123

3 жыл бұрын

@@ejay3k it's just so silly that we sit down to do something we really like, and then we create these problems instead of focusing on having fun. I guess games are designed different, but I remember being frustrated when not being good enough at them :D bottom line: probably just have to chill and listen to Sycra's advice and try to focus on fun

@ejay3k

3 жыл бұрын

@@rolandboo123 Yep, it's easy to be taken over by impatience, self doubt and all that fun stuff :D

Youre a very good teacher Sycra, I find it easier to watch a 43 minute video from you than a 10 minute video from some other youtubers, and this is coming from someone who probably has legitimate ADD.

Good video, good advice! A lot of artists struggle with the same things (me included) and just simply forget to rest, because, "oh, I rest when I draw!", but it's not entirely true. It's important to take just the rest. I usually give myself one day of rest to just play games and watch some videos, to recharge, and then I can continue with new energy and ideas! Also, our bodies and brains are not built to deal with psychological stress, we were built to deal with physical stress. It's a lot easier for the body to gain its strength back after a day of hard work, but it's a lot more difficult for the brain to relax and recover from psychological/emotional stress, it could take days, weeks, even months to fully recover. So it's very important for everyone to take not only physical breaks but also psychological.

This is such an important video for me. I’m guilty of making myself not have fun at the expense of creativity and being stressed. I’m going to try this out for a month and see if it works for me.

@Korudo

3 жыл бұрын

4 weeks later: This is a more relaxed and effective way to learn, for me. I have more creative energy and motivation, because it’s more fun with less pressure. I find myself WANTING to learn more because of this.

This reminds me a lot of pomodoro technique, and other similar learning techniques. Practice for a set amount of time, take a break. A lot of professional instrument players do something similar - practice for an amount of time (max 90 minutes, I've read), and then take a break. The brain can't focus for extended amounts of time, and taking breaks not only allows time to assimilate what you've experienced, it can also allow you a mental step back that might help solve a problem you're facing. And most of all, it relieves your brain from straining to focus. Basically, you can either practice for 25 minutes and take a 5 minute break 3 times (finishing up with a longer, 15 minute break), or practice for 90 minutes and take a 15 minute break. You can then repeat this set, or just stop for the day. Experience will tell you which one works best for you. I've used this technique myself in other disciplines than art, and it helps provide structure, but also gives your brain some downtime. It isn't magic, but it absolutely works.

i kinda combine it all. i usually draw once a week but don't pressure myself to draw otherwise. but when i do i go for hours. it's pretty strange. took a break from even that recently because i realised, oh, i just am not feeling this. that helped too. but i've always taken long breaks for months in my life and come back like woaaaah. tossing this out there for people, since everyone is different! i also had the sudden kinda ego breakdown of technical skill and creativity tho. but that was when i was doing multiple days all the time

"Hey everyone, Sakuraism here". Seeing the KZread auto-generated subtitles for that part is a treat for every video 😂

@ThePinkPhink

3 жыл бұрын

hey everyone, psycho yassin here!

@dazedhex900

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePinkPhink 😂😂

@sarcasm2k

3 жыл бұрын

What does he say tho?

@dazedhex900

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarcasm2k Sycra Yasin :)

I can't tell you how badly I needed to hear this today, I was literally in tears frustrated with the progress I wasn't making. This truly feels like a gift.

I believe the key to learning is to do whatever you feel like doing with no guidance until you more consciously start to notice what doesnt quite work then go study that. Not only these "free" periods build your mileage how they also act as some sort of break since they should be different from your studies.

Wow so insightful. People like Sycra are more quiet and isolated for long periods rather than pumping out teaching videos. Their information is much more unique and fruitful. I respect every part of Sycra.

Thank you for this! As i mentioned before I just started drawing and having fun plus learning effectively is my main factor!

Me: im going to make a massive playlist, and spend every day watching dozens of studies! Me: watches this video Guess I was going about it the wrong way. Very glad I watched this

I remember having a difficult time killing this dark souls 3 boss Midir, he was a big ass dragon that I had to chase down constantly and with the most bullshit moves in the series, I think I died 20 times in a row, getting progressively more mad at myself and the game. Then I thought "Ok, slow down, let's just enter the boss room, carefully examine every move he does and see if I can find an opening to hit this bitch, my goal is NOT TO BEAT THE BOSS, my goal is to OBSERVE" and just like that, I accidentally killed the boss on my first try, because I was not betting obsessed by my final goal I was able to focus on the moment and what I was missing, maybe the answer lies somewhere like that for acquiring skills in life as well, maybe we should stop obsessing about the end goal and how things should look like and realize we need to look at how they are now and how we can improve them, I dunno.

A really good way to measure "learning attention span" is to practice combos in fighting games. For me the sweet spot I'm happy to do every day is 1-2 hours, after which I'm not tired, I just notice myself dropping more combos, it flips like a switch. If I don't brute force it and just come back every day for a week or two, combo will be eventually learned and I get a huge dopamine kick. It also feels very "right", like that's exactly what I'm supposed to do

ngl: I really needed to hear this. There's days when I stress more about learning than actually putting in the hours. It's those moments when I take out the crappy sketchbook and just let my hand do whatever it wants to do. It's liberating and has to happen more often. Thanks for the insight!

@Kariya222

3 жыл бұрын

Same, every time im going to study and get frustrated when im doing something wrong and then just quit because it's start to exhausting me

This video felt really validating. I've found in the last couple years especially that when it comes to both gaming and drawing, I tend to get better after I haven't done it for a long time. It always made me feel as if the saying "practice makes perfect" was just total garbage, because I wouldn't practice at all for months at a time and then suddenly the next time I did it I'd be much better. I always kind of attributed it to growing up and beginning to understand or see things differently, or maybe just becoming more dexterous, but it remained a constant thing in my life since the first time I noticed it. I'm glad to see that I'm not so weird for experiencing this, and that it's actually a rather effective way to learn. I should still practice more than I do, but it's a good start. I definitely find that it's a method of learning that works best for me.

@shkurka4828

3 жыл бұрын

I'm the same when it comes to certain skills, like gaming or typing. Currently teaching myself to touch type quickly and sometimes I practice for a week or two every day, sometimes skip practice for a few weeks. Recently I tried again after a long break and I felt like I had more keys in my muscle memory. Same thing happened when I tried to do a challenge in a Zelda game for many hours on end and I got mad and frustrated, but then a few days later I breezed through it. Not sure if it applies to drawing because since I hit a plateau my progress seems very minuscule no matter how often I practice.

@xerokun5067

3 жыл бұрын

Never thought that sin archbishop of sloth wud love to draw in his gospel

@betelgeuseromanee-conti8784

3 жыл бұрын

@@xerokun5067 Drawing makes my brain tremble.

@Chareidos

3 жыл бұрын

I have notice that for Rocket League! I actually became better by not playing it for a while! This I could indeed reproduce several times with all the years since 2017. I am still not a good player though, but I reached Platin after I was stagnant Silver/Gold for soo long. My theory is, that your brain records every input while you play, and it is giving them certain values because of dopamin or something. Because your brain is like plastic and constantly forming, it deletes those with less positive effect and strenghten those, that had a positive effect. So then you leave your brain sorting the shit out, you will still have the useful neuronal links! Learning by Forgetting!

@horuho245

3 жыл бұрын

Perfect practice makes perfect. After all, you can always practice bad habits.

The last bit hit me hard. I see myself as analytical, I gathered a lot of tutorials, I did them kinda semi consistent, I know my goal, but I have no idea/creativity what to draw now which is totally different from when I drew for fun in school.

Thank you for giving us a different perspective on learning! We are typically trained and whipped to believe the “GRIND” is what will gain us success, but that is not the healthiest, or only case for the rest of us!

wow this was so incredibly helpful and practical. THANK YOU! some of the most widespread attitudes in art can be so destructive and counter productive. balance is everything! not all the way one way or the other, balance in types of practice, analytical v intuition, weaknesses v strengths, grinding v productive time and everything else!

As a pokerplayer i understand the concept of ending sessions earlier. it seems to make sense, but you shouldn't forget that those long sessions are conditioning your a-, b-, c-, d-, e- game and so on. if you just play/work in the time that you are on your A game, you aren't really improving your lowest skillsets anymore. as a example in poker: imagine 2 professionals. 1 playing only when he's on his A or B game and another guy who keeps pushing longer sessions even when he's on his C or D game, skillwise. the second guy will in time push his skill that much more, that his C game will become the first guys A-game. And his expected value in play will outgrow the guy that plays less in huge ways in time. Cheers, glorious video!

This also kinda applies to coding. What I've started doing is work on 1 project per day until my progress slowed down a lot in the morning (and if I do another one, I spend less time). Then, I don't do any other projects until I wake up the next day. It's much more effective than trying to spend much longer on something, like a hard-to-find error or bug

Thank you a lot for your videos, I am currently watching your videos from 6 or 7 years ago, and they are seriously helping me to deal with anatomy! I am glad you are still posting, thank you again

Out of all the in-person courses, online courses, instructional books and videos I've sat through, this series might be the only one that not only makes drawing seem like it could be enjoyable, but also that I could possibly do it one day.

Damn, I identify so much with this thing of getting frustrated. I usually try to push through and just break down into a matrix style existential crisis. I started out with 3d when kid believing that in a few months I would have my own Pixar level short film, then after a year, I learned it would be impossible, then I blamed the software and got into programming, so I could add the tools I deemed necessary, I created the plugins but wasnt enough and I realized I dont want a Pixar level short film, I just enjoy making characters, so I got into drawing, and decided I would make a comic which I didn't because of sheer frustration and am now working on my plugins because they are my comfort zone but I still hate coding because errors are frustrating.

21:03 Sycra a professional video game sound designer

@leah_riiaalfarero3198

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

19:00 Interesting how much this notion overlaps with what Stephen Krashen, language learning expert, says. Paraphrasing, "students study grammar and words for the promised fun they will have later, but it turns out the delayed gratification never comes. To learn it must be fun and compelling."

Thank you kindly Sycra ^^ Much ado since last earnestly digging into art, and making it important, and I recall enjoying yours videos with real meta level advice and analysis years ago, and so glad to be back in audience again :>

dont compare yourself to others. compare yourself to yourself from one day ago

@ashcatchum3129

3 жыл бұрын

How will you ever know what your doing wrong if you don't compare your art to pros? And if you compare your art with the art you did a day ago your just going in circles because you don't know what's wrong and right if you don't compare with pros. Just don't be like I can never be like this pro artist just study their art so you know what looks good and how to do it and etc

Don't know if you'll ever read this but just in case: Thank u so much for the tons of great tutorials. You're great at teaching art and your channel helps me a LOT learning and understanding different aspects of it. Highly appreciate your content and the work you put in.

Very insightful! Been loving this WIWIKA series

This has lifesaving potential for me. Subbed with sincere thanks

How to draw graphs with Sycra. For real though some really good info/analysis, thanks!

this video is so gold I downloaded it as an audio podcast to listen to it over and over

You're my new favourite person on KZread. You seem like a genius tbh. Never seen anyone explain this before and you do it so well!

omg! i really needed this, i've been struggling with this. thank you so much!!!

Thank you, I needed to hear this right now. This is so important!

Thank you for this video, I would never had thought about approaching improving in art this way!

This explains so much! I’ve been feeling burnout and decreasing passion feeling I have to get in a certain amount of hours even if I’m tired, and at the same time seeing that my progress actually seems super slow compared to when I just drew a little everyday when I could and what I wanted to learn at that moment... thank you so much this proves it’s a normal thing. Combine fundamentals learning but with less stress over it

i cant stop laughing at how gravely he said "I'm a tool" and then just snorted it off

I'm working on putting together a video myself of ways to practice, and this has been an awesome resource. I have two whole pages of notes!! This really helps me articulate my own thoughts on practicing :]

This explains a lot about a majority of games I play and skills I want to obtain. Thanks for these videos, loving them.

there's 2 books that basically talk about those same stuff: A mind for numbers and The Inner Game of Tennis

It’s the most wonderful time of the year a epic new Sudra video

5:52 Just paused the vid here for my thoughts. (sorry if I miss a point you not already mentioning in the further video) First, I like your way of thinking! About the "Skill" curve. I am not sure, if the term "Skill" is a little bit off, because itself can mean so many different things, and maybe the word "Performance" or "Fokus" would fit a little bit more to that curve. Because "Skill" can involve something like technical knowledge (passive) or technical ability (active), or learning and adapting abilities. Skills can also be our strategies for developing resilience to occuring obstacles or frustrating moments. You can have days with much Energy and Nerves, and have more Fun and have easy access to your memory of all the little things you already found out, but are still not used to, because some functions changed after updates. You develope routines, which cost less effort over time and lessen your energy loss. There are a lot of "outside" variables, which have an effect on your performance and that may vary in output due to the change of "Fokus" or "Endurance" values. I like your approach showing a lot of those aspects, I struggled to understand for so long now and which many people are just cutting out from the frame. I tried to gain an awareness of my Daily Form and to adress my Daily Goals under the circumstances I have to work with. Energy, Mental Status and the amount of Time you have free to spend to learn something are determined. Sorry, I am just commenting spontanoulsy while watching your video. ^^ I continue to watch now!

@Chareidos

3 жыл бұрын

After watching it all! Briliant Video!

This is such good advice!

Summary: skill will go like BOOP, BOOP, BOOP, BOOP! This is very useful and it will even help me take care of my physical health, knowing I don't have to sit long and persevere through suffering and frustration. I'll just go workout instead.

This is why i like sycra, i can relate to him on a whole new level than other artist here... ❤️❤️

Very helpful. I spent so long in frustration and negative feelings I’m just trying to fall in love with art making again.

"Break is something different than what your doing", oh man this is really going to help me :'D thanks

This is the best TED talk ever!

Kim Jung Gi is the one guy that I'm 100% sure was, and still is one of those people who just have fun all/most of the time and so, never seem to get tired. He always talks about it on his streams, how he never really had fears about drawing because it was always his playground. He's also really goofy, so he must have some of that naivety that you've mentioned 😆 apart from that, he's constantly preaching patience, and I feel like I'm understanding his mindset more and more. I've realised that behind his incredible skill, there's something far more important to learn for me, and that's exactly what you've said in the video. Just maximising the fun, not getting frustrated through self-judgement will increase your overall stamina with time. That's why this guy can still draw all day like it's nothing. I don't think I've ever spend 12-16 hours just drawing. I honestly don't know how that's possible, especially as a beginner. It sounds like a one way ticket to losing my passion, and I can't understand how a lot of professionals start off this way. I feel "guilty" for not putting in these kinds of hours, but at the same time I want to get away from that mindset.

Sycra I feel like you gained the ability to read minds or something because you always upload a video about a topic I have problems with. Eg: I was struggling with drawing necks and you uploaded a WIWIKA about necks; I was struggling with legs and you uploaded a WIWIKA about legs. Finally I was like "There is something wrong with how I approach learning to draw" and you upload this. 10/10 god bless you man

I will definitely start trying this, it may bbn help me get even better faster , Thank you😀

OMG SYCRAAAAA!!!! You’re still alive!!! I forgot your youtube since i got a new gmail acc! Glad I’ve found you back!!

found this extremely helpful. Thank you so much.

that makes a lot of sense, I can't believe that never occurred to me

Hi Sycra, this really spoke to me and put into words a lot of unfiltered thoughts that I've had muddling around in my head for years. I have been trying to do art on and off for about four years now (your videos have always made so much more sense to me than other art youtubers' videos btw), in the first few months I was drawing avidly (ADHD hyperfixation, I suspect), but since then I've never been able to stick with it due to getting frustrated by my eye being more skilled than my hand; seeing all the mistakes in my work that I wasn't skilled enough to correct made me dread starting a practice session and also made it very hard to have fun. However, I would notice that if I didn't draw for months I could try again and bang out a really decent sketch (relative to my mileage), and that encouraged me...only to find the next sketch would look worse than ever. I struggle so much to find the desire to draw because of these things, but I think you are right that approaching it in a non-judgmental, non-competitive mindset and then giving myself permission to stop when it gets frustrating might be the answer I've been trying to arrive at for years. I know this video is a little old by now, but I wanted to thank you for always sharing such earnest, sincere thoughts about art and about your personal journey to self improvement. I find it very relatable, and that encourages me a lot. I am looking forward to trying this method and seeing where it takes me. Cheers :)

Improvement is all about applied imagination, imagination fueling commitment - seeing no boundaries. If you think you're better, and you expect yourself to better, it's is a great way to be disappointed, by your own stupidity, because your body doesn't just automatically create the best thing ever now that you've proven to yourself your (whatever) level of good/skilled at your craft. Somehow, you can find yourself worse than you were on day one, despite all this progress you've made and all this proof you have you're "better" now. How is that possble? Shouldn't you automatically be better? No, of course not, it doesn't work like that. You're in fact, in more ways than anyone wants to admit, just as good as you are on day one, but you apply yourself differently, and you're just always altering the application of yourself - this can seem like improvement. I'd say, if you have to give improvement some truth, some definition, in this context, this can be it - this forever alteration in PROCESSES. Familiarization. But that doesn't have anything to do with being good - at least - it doesn't necessarily have to do with it - noo, no. But anyhow, it's that expectation that you're "better" and that you can do "better" that can be such a fault and a self-misleading, though common, mistake. Instead, it's pursuing some vision that tickles you within, when the idea of how "good or bad" you are comes second to the construction of the contraption or what-have-you, and that's when your best work comes through - but, paradoxically, it's sort of no longer the point. A bit cliche, I know, "THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT YOU HAD FUN" Lol. Hear me out though, my point is not that. Over time, sure, your familiarity with the process of your art or whatever it is can make certain things you'd have to otherwise learn, come naturally to you, but that's really not what it's about. It's about the thing you're making. I'm always amazed by what I can do - but as soon as I put on the hat "that's my thing" and I begin to define myself by it, and expect myself to be good at it, and do it purely to get "better" (DIFFERENT THAN LEARNING! LEARNING IS DISCOVERY, IT'S UNWRAPPING TANGLED VINES TO REVEAL TREASURES!) that you begin to get yourself in this trap of your sacred creation and vision process, becoming some self-diluted, delusional idea that you're going to labor yourself into the promised land. What's the promised land anyway? There isn't any, but if there is, it's just that process of taking a simple idea seed, and exanding it, and exapanding it, and expanding it. For example... I just drew this little, creepy fella that was stricking to me somehow. I decided to see how this bugger would look from many angles and poses, and slowly a story, or moreso a "feel" of a set of stories, starting coming to mind. He's like this morbid little create, quite scary, that is actually lovely and very misundestood. The things he does to show love and try and make friends are all extremely weird and creepy yet somehow endearing. Spitting on plants to make them grow. Reading to graves in the graveyard at night. Suddenly this huge thing and all these ideas are bursting into my head, and I'm furiously scribbling all this stuff down. Sure, I'm no Pablo Picasso, but I'm sufficient enough to make this little tiny idea I had, and turn it into something entirely of it's own, a completely unique flavor, a new smell, a sense, a taste, a feel that's never been smelt, sensed, tasted, etc. I have enough skills and the proper tools to make it happen. If I need to get better at something to make it happen, I will. In fact, I may just turn on a Sycra video for some guidance on how to do this or that. AWESOME! Sorry this last bit was so hastily written, dinner is ready and my family is waiting.

You give me motivation

The video that I really need right now!

You offer better life advice than many self-improvement videos on KZread!

This video is amazing.

Thank you, like THANK you so much for this video. Just thank you!

This makes sense. I've had days when I draw all day long and get very little done, and days when I see a noticeable improvement in less than an hour.

I really needa get back in my sketchbook, first off. Second off, I truly miss ur forum, tho my activity on it was... less than. Just sayin'.

Man this wisdom is so valuable

Very interesting subject! I agree with most of the speech but I also think that we sometimes must forget the fun part to progress effectively. No fun doesn't mean necessarily frustration . A lot of exercises and studies are, at least initially, super boring but very valuables in our art journey. Anatomy, bargue plates, still life painting etc. are not the funniest things the first times

"I was playing these games like Darks-" Me: "Darksouls!? 😁" Him: "Darksiders" Me: Dissapointed But seriously, I can see how we can be more efficient with learning. I've been thinking about this a lot recently and I agree with the need to stop judging our work at some point, and keeping emotional distance. The problem with that is when you start off moderately frustrated, you're going into something that you know you really don't like doing. It's perspective for me, but everybody has their own least favourites. I guess this is where the judgement part comes in as well, I need to stop looking at perspective as if "I hate it!" "When am I done?" "Am I able to apply it now?". Thank you for this video... I see myself coming back to it many times

@TheTC

3 жыл бұрын

Darkstalkers

@robinbi4150

3 жыл бұрын

darkest dungeon

@BigDomski

3 жыл бұрын

@@robinbi4150 I would more than accept that too 👌

Wow never thought of it this way, and I do realize I do this in college Calc 3 is fun and easy because I usually stop and take a break if I become frustrated let my brain do some background thinking. But physics is a pain in the ass because I don't give it the same treatment for whatever reason.

12:25 There was a study in exercise and sports science that after a good night of sleep, athletes can perform 20% higher than they did at the end of their last practice session. Breaks and rest are important.

14:10 I need to connect the dots here, like for example in elder ring melinia the severed blade was kicking my ass for 5 hours straight almost then out of nowhere I just stopped and then I though "well, next morning I will try but will not exept everything in return, its just gonna be sparring", forward to next morning I beat her first try. I have to get that feeling in drawing, not expect nothing in return and let the brain just let do his thing so I dont stress it enough.

Yeah this helped a lot. I always worry about taking breaks and I sometimes end up wasting time anyways, so I probably should take breaks so I can keep making progress.

"Put your ass to the fire" is my new favorite phrase now

good ol' sycra

this deserves more views ahhh

The method you mentioned in this video is applicable to any skill

Just finished first watch of the video. It is interesting. I am not sure if I have a right take away from it or not. My understanding is that working on something hard for no longer than the time it takes to become frustrated, and then stopping until the next day, is superior to drawing through the frustration for the most part, to the extent that working through the frustration will actually essentially undo skill you would have otherwise gained if you had just stopped after first signs of frustration. However, if you do insane hours, like 12-16 hours+, you kind of break through the frustration paradox and just gain a lot of skill anyway. As such, you want to either draw a small amount, or an extremely tremendous amount, and not somewhere in the middle of that? Is that a correct understanding? I'm also not sure if it was fully clear to me whether or not there is any merit at all going for the insane hours for just skill. Towards the end it sounded like overall it may be better if you only care about drawing very good at the cost of creativity, but if I remember correctly, earlier in the video it sounded like you improved your skill more per month with less time per session, compared to spending the large amount of time like you use to. If that is the case, there seems to be no reason to ever go for 12+ hours unless you are one of those people that never get frustrated. If there is any benefit to amount of skill one can gain per month doing 12+ hour daily sessions, I wonder if it is possible to sacrifice creativity for say a year to get good, then take a month break, and when you come back to drawing, you'll still have your skill but also have your creativity return? Ultimately, it seems the ideal path is to figure out the best way to just avoid frustration so that none of it is a problem in the first place. Easier said than done, though I've found meditation seems to have a large role to play in achieving that, since when I was meditating, it was one of the first times in my life I was able to draw without frustration. I normally get frustrated quickly, so I seem to improve slowly no matter what I do. Sorry for my long comment. I hope my understanding can be clarified. Thank you for all the videos you've made over the years, they are some of the most helpful I've seen.

Great video. I've been moving towards something like this, but you've probably saved me another year or two of trying things out.. I was wondering if you have a video on setting goals or if you could make one about it? I haven't found a good way to go about it. It either feels too constricting or too loose. Would love to hear your take on it. Thanks :)

Lol. My ass learns whatever I wanna know at the time. So With drawing, I learned how to do hyper realism and than realized my digital portraits looked dead, unless they were in black and white. So now I’m going back and learning basic colour theory. That stuff is fun. Cuz you can make shit look hella convincing with no detail at all. As much as I try to find chill ways to learn stuff, I always end up learning really non basic stuff and than learning the fundamentals later when I realize why they exist in the first place. Even with music production, I learned composition. Than automation. Than bass wave shaping. Only recently am I actually learning proper mixing and panning theories. It’s really non efficient, but, once I learn the basics, they are cemented because I almost make them up myself and than fast track that discovery by quickly downloading the techniques off of KZread into my noggin.

This reminds me, kind of an epidemic on Instagram - I've seen people ADVISE dumping creativity altogether and just posting studies every day. (*cough* Angel Ganev *cough*). I feel a lot of them don't get anything out of them after a point either because it's not about learning from the photo, just copying it in their art style well enough to post it, and it has to be done in one day. I'm not sure they ever learn to draw from imagination at all. That seems utterly miserable to me.

@TheSCPStudio

3 жыл бұрын

Learning why and how someone does something when they do work that inspire you is how you learn how to apply that to your future work. It's not simply copying.

@bunnie187

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSCPStudio Oh I'm not trying to dismiss studies!! They're totally important!! But if you're doing them just so you can post on IG daily and not to learn and you never ever exercise your creative side you're really limiting yourself.

@cecec7102

3 жыл бұрын

@@bunnie187 I totally agree with your point :D I used to be one of those, because copying for the sake of it is much easier both on a technical side but also mentally, because you get into autopilot mode. conscious studying is really taxing in my opinion, hence why it's important to take breaks in between or study for a shorter period of time and spending more time applying the knowledge to your own art rather than the other way around.

@stupidchild7716

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds really unhealthy, like writing a paper on a topic you don't necessarily fully understand based on someone else's paper or a really specific part of that topic. You're going to pick up something, sure, but not the core of why something works the way it does and the ability to apply it to other fields. Many artists on social media feel forced to do that though, follow trends and post daily just to keep getting followers and interaction, and more often than not they end up getting some massive burnout or really disappointed when they don't get the results they expected

Thank you.

Funny, I've noticed the 'skill jump from previous session' most strongly with Beat Saber. I don't own a VR set, so I've played it with varying gaps in between but most times I've had this surprise of songs I found difficult the previous time being a cakewalk, while during a session I might be able to improve at a specific song but not significantly at overall skill.

Very useful. I never had any interest in drawling. But I recently decided to try to practice. I've drawn for 50 hours in the last week (I hope to draw this much for one month). Trying to learn asap. I never get all that frustrated but I am pretty fatigued. I'll keep in mind all this stuff.

I just want you to know that I REAALLY love your videos...maybe u can make a video about drawing clothes next???

I might be a bit late, but thank you for this video, very helpful

Thank you

Is there any art training app where you can gamify the art learning experience? I saw some of those for exercise, maybe it helps some people to quantify their learning

it makes sence for me. Im stuck rn so going to give it a brake and have fun.

Sycra I mean it when you changed my life, and the way I think. Best teacher ever. Also do you have a dogecoin address lol

this is why a 9 to 5 is a joke

This video is fucking amazing.

I get frustrated, and burnt out fast. I have a clear goal of where I want to be, and what I want to create. When I fail, I recognize where I'm lacking, but then I focus on the fundamentals. . .and they aren't fun. They burn me out even faster. So I give up before starting now. . .I just don't sit down to draw because I don't want to be frustrated with myself.

Hey! Great video as always. I just wanted to let you know that I have more and more trouble accessing your website, Resources are only accessible directly by url and the formating is all broken. Perhaps is it time to freshen it up? :p cheers

This sounds great, but sometimes I feel the opposite... I end one day feeling like I did really well, and learned a lot. Then the next day it feels like I've forgotten everything and I have to start from scratch again.

@lance1811

3 жыл бұрын

Don't be afraid to start over again. This time you're not starting form scratch. You're starting form experience. IDK your comment reminds me of this line I forget where i read it.

I have a question, whats your thoughts on socializing with other artist or Socializing in general as a nacessity for progress?