What’s your favorite anatomy book?

@khatarnakstreamer742

5 жыл бұрын

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@Tea-rr8qy

5 жыл бұрын

I don't have any I mostly watch your videos for learning anatomy.

@carlosroo5460

5 жыл бұрын

Your Ebooks

@KiX-K4T13

5 жыл бұрын

Omphalos by Kim Jung Gi. 😉

@mortiferburzum2451

5 жыл бұрын

I'm struggling to find one that suits me. I've got so many books and still I couldn't choose one to follow. Some are just shit and the author clearly not good enough himself/herself, others have good instructions for one body part but not the others, some are too descriptive and hard to understand etc. I liked Mike Mattesi's Force drawing series but they're not enough either. I was thinking of giving a try to an Atlas of human anatomy(for med students not the one for artists) but they're quite expensive and might be too detailed. For now I'm compiling bits from different books depending on what I need. It seems there is no perfect anatomy book. I'm guessing that you're thinking of writing one based on your course. Yep, you'd have a market for it.

Marshall is the art grandpa i wish i had

@kevinratay8285

3 жыл бұрын

He's a new age grandpa lol

@jiraiyaapprentice5733

3 жыл бұрын

He IS our art grandpa 😁

@savvygarcia7862

3 жыл бұрын

Saaaame

@mattsmith5253

3 жыл бұрын

He can be if you join Proko ✍

@visualsweets

2 жыл бұрын

My grandpa was a grumpy old man who rarely smiled at me. He called me a donkey when I didn’t say hello to him because that’s what donkeys do.

I felt like knowing the names and insertions first was actually pretty helpful, but that certainly didn't make my drawings look nice

@cnash5647

5 жыл бұрын

I have spotted a wild artist.

@gusdontbe_9930

5 жыл бұрын

Woah! one of my favorite art channels!!!

@anglophilereviewandreactio2713

4 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy I am following ur channel too.

"I understood why you would go to Body Worlds on a date... that when you look at all these dead bodies, and then you turn to each other, nobody ever looked more alive." - Marshall Vandruff

Frédéric Delavier he's French ,He studied morphology and anatomy at the Ecole des Beaux-Arts in Paris as well as dissection at the Paris Faculté de Médecine. He also conducted research on comparative anatomy at the Natural History Museum in Paris and made scientific reconstructions in paleontology. He explains he's drawing techniques in he's KZread channel he's very interesting and he's friend Michael Gundill is the best specialist in bodybuilding in the world that guy is a genius he's books are just awesome

These podcasts is something like Walter White talks about art with Jesse Pinkman! Please dont stop, its amazing!

@kaku2189

4 жыл бұрын

Marshall: We *have to draw* Stan*.

@Kakirachan

2 жыл бұрын

WHY IS THIS SO ACCURATE

Totally agree with Proko. Learn how to draw first. Then specialize. It's like a surgeon not going to medical school.

@saionjisan

5 жыл бұрын

I wish I had known that before xD

@BoysBarn

5 жыл бұрын

Learn light and shading and have fun! Start drawing and have fun! Beatles knew 3 chords when they came to USA; learned the other chords as they went along; you don't need to go to "medical school" to be a good artist

@saionjisan

5 жыл бұрын

@@BoysBarn wooow really?! O. O just three chords!

@BoysBarn

5 жыл бұрын

@@saionjisan many guitar teachers make you learn a hundred chords (hard chords) thus boring and losing students; Instead the good ones teach 3-5 chords then you can play a zillion songs! Learn others as you go; That is how I feel about spending years learning 'anatomy' drawing; what if you are a nature or landscape artist? I draw people and can barely spell anatomy; I'd be bored sh*tless if I had to draw hands etc LOL Not a hit on Proko at all; he is awesome but anatomy drawing is niche you have to be interested in; sorry for the novel! :)

"What was that word, when you are not making mistakes?" "Succeeding." Hahaha too good, love the show

@joshuabaxter2958

4 жыл бұрын

I died there lol.

never clicked so fast on a video keep up these great podcasts!

@afonsosilva6614

5 жыл бұрын

Same here

Next episode: Marshall talks about genital anatomy for 30 minutes.

@cnash5647

5 жыл бұрын

Aw yeah

@Nathammer

5 жыл бұрын

as soon as Marshall mentioned the removable genitalia thing I paused the video and scrolled down to the comments because I know someone else had something to say about this topic, looool

@M0nchis

4 жыл бұрын

i would love that

@neguinlk

3 жыл бұрын

@@M0nchis O_o

I love how you two make us feel like we're in the room with you guys. The bantering between you two is great to watch.

19:16 25:44 26:14 27:58 29:07 31:07 31:52 32:17 strength training anatomy 33:50 34:07 34:54 36:25

My favorite beginners friendly book is "Figure drawing design and inventions" by Michael Hampton. It teaches you the basic and utmost indepth analysis on the fundamentals. Not that much of an info for anatomy but great for referencing specially for beginners.

This is THE BEST drawing and art channel ive ever subscribed to. So much good information. Thank you Proko channel!

I absolutely adore this podcasts, I'm not sure if you're already planning on doing something like this, but a podcast in this same vein of 'How to Learn X' for each of the fundamentals would be completely amazing.

I've been soaking all of this knowledge up, y'all. Some stuff seemed clear all the way up to this episode, but it's awesome to have perspective and experience from two guys who've been in the biz. Thank you, both. I'll continue listening as this is one of my top 5 podcasts. (I have a few I listen to while I work. When music just isn't enough.)

4:59 Proko "anatomy is not a beginner topic" Captions: "anatomy is not a *big dinner topic"*

@AlejandraRafa

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@6exG

4 жыл бұрын

it definitely isn't tho

@bozmundarts2614

4 жыл бұрын

@@6exG ofc It is, knowing the name of the meat you're eating *sure is nice.... I think*

Listening to Marshal talk about everything art was so lovely and comforting and wonderful. 💜

I love these podcasts!!! They are so funny, educational and relaxing :D Thank you for making them!

This has cleared up quite a few issues that I realised when I got Bridgmans guide to anatomy, as I felt like I was completely lost in regards to what I should be working on. Turns out I need to work on my forms which Ive always been a little overconfident on and never looked deeper into.

Thank you for adding the visual reference to the artist mentioned. Much appreciated.

I really appreciate these podcasts and I recommend them to younger artist also.

Marshall sounds like such a dedicated instructor, your students are lucky to have you as their teacher.

every time when i listen your podcast and draw i catch a random motivation, thank you

Jack Hamm's "Drawing the Head and Figure" isn't strictly an anatomy book but has a lot of great tips on drawing the human figure and faces. A gem on every page.

Marshall - that Robert Beverly Hale quote is fantastic. It makes me think that one day we will understand and apply a science to learning in a way that is far more rigorously developed and understood than the clumsy, stumbling way in which most of us approach it now.

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I love these podcasts you put up! Really helps me keep my motivation up as I draw hahaha, thank you!!

These podcasts keeps getting better and better. Marshall is awesome :D

Loving this podcast, I really wish they were longer! They're great to listen while working

@shadowseer07

5 жыл бұрын

I could listen to them all day.

These podcasts are so good. Keep them coming please!!

I've struggled to the point where a put down the pencil and left it for years. I think I finally believed that maybe drawing/the arts was a mistake I made because I enjoyed it and thought I could do it but the more I tried to advance, the more problems and confusion struck me. If I can learn something new or gain some new understanding it's worth more than I can explain to you guys. I have been subbing to peoples channels where I think I can absorb or gain as much as possible from them. My goal or dream, is to pick up a pencil or graphite, charcoal medium whichever and for me to feel just as ease with using it that it doesn't matter what I use to work with that it all may feel as natural as possible. It must be a feeling of true achievement to be sitting there talking about all this as you guys are.

Fascinating to see how your work takes older work ("the whole bucket thing that I did for the pelvis pretty much came out of Bammes") and moves it into the video-streaming age, adding a dimension (or a couple of dimensions actually) to it.

Where has this podcast been all my life?! 😢 The advice has been extremely helpful 😀

WOW thank you Proko this is exactly what i needed to hear! LOVE the show!

11:38 90% of viewers died on the inside when they didn't know what he was talking about

@Gilgamoth

5 жыл бұрын

Those are shoulders muscles and bones that extends to your arms. To start deltoid is a muscle and etc.

@psynide

5 жыл бұрын

@@Gilgamoth r/woosh

@webberdabest4510

5 жыл бұрын

@@psynide It's spelt "r/woooosh" with 4 o's. Get it right, you pleb.

@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065

4 жыл бұрын

It's ez dude you suck

@deadly.deadpan

3 жыл бұрын

I was so happy that I knew what he was talking about, made me feel that my effort was worth it

I really love to watch both of you discussing❤️.. Great learning stuff❤️❤️

I went to the Bodies Exhibit when it was at the South Street Seaport twice and it was amazing. Even got to hold a brain. You get to see the stuff only medical professionals and medical students do. Truly one of the best exhibitions I've ever been to.

Atlas of human anatomy bu Stephen Peck has been my main reference for years. It's concise, clear and just amazing. Illustrations are sometimes a bit dark but that's it. Text is useful as well if your not sure about some details. Also, I think it was Todd Lockwood's go to reference book for years. Glad Marshall gave it a thumbs up. ;)

I like "outside in" first (the flow of forms in the gesture), before detailed anatomy. The muscles etc support the body's movement and posture. Then one can understand the context and purpose for the detailed anatomy.

the content of this podcast is very enlightening--- well done, proko!

This is one of your best Draftsmen episodes ever!

As a Biology student, the anatomy lab class I took (which took place in a real cadaver lab), was pretty helpful. Plus I get to sketch them in my notes and nobody would question it.

I NEED THIS WITH SUBTITLES SOO MUCH! or need to learn inglish D: love you proko!!!!

I really like the vibe of this podcast, great show

I haven't even call because it's like each and every time I think of a question, I just open the video of the new podcast and is there!!! Answered O. O woowww!

Great drawings i learn a lot thanks!😊🎨✍️

I absolutely love this podcast

Oh I just love Marshall so much I could listen to him all day such a funny jolly man 😊 Stan you’re great too !

This explained so much! I had a hard time with Bridgeman and now understand why: I still don’t know enough!

"drawing ... is being able to think several matters at once" Is that why many artist are ridden with anxiety?

Proko and Marshall difference: Smartphone and small notebook.

I love Marshall with a burning passion

This was an absolute delight guys!! Thank you.

1st - marshal's voice is just magical 2nd - my faverot anatomy book is bridgman's

Thank you so much for your podcast, it is hyper inspirational for me.

I remember 3 months ago I did not like gesture drawing but now since I started to read Micheal Hampton figure drawing book. I started to actually see why gesture drawing is so important 🤔 plus it's fun 🤣 like there so many anime and shows and real life ppl who do so many gestural poses

You guys are funny together, I'm enjoying every episodes you make. Haha. Two Masters with great humors.

These are awesome! Please keep em coming

NailHead on this subject for me! I learned anatomy quite soon after starting figure drawing and now my work is stiff and totally without but I fell in love with all of the anatomical details, which I am battling to not get stuck on doing. sos

The best show by far I have been fighting this scenario for a while, Ta!!

Man, I need to watch more of these. Really informative.

Love this podcast so much! Thank you for making it:))

That laugh at the start XD I've really been enjoying these videos each week. Great information & entertainment. Thanks guys!

As a happy possessor of the Italian book you mentioned, this makes me so happy! Thank you for the time dedicated to art books, I wouldn’t have thought you appreciated that book so much, it makes me look at it in a different way now.

you should make a video about "things you wish you knew starting out"!!

One of my favorite books is Michael Hampton's " Figure Drawing Design and Invention" Found it to be very helpful.

@chaewonjeon2787

4 жыл бұрын

seconded! It's very beginner friendly.

I've been reading this book called "Anatomy Drawing School: Human and Animal" by György Fehér and Andras Szunyoghy, that has all these amazingly detailed and well drawn graphite drawings of all the anatomy!

That was the best ep of the season so far!!! Not sure if it was Marshal’s singing but I now must have an anatomical skull!!! 🙏🏻_____✍️ 👏👏👏

In the Beverly Hale book: "Drawing lessons from the great masters" (page 61) he writes that more often than not an artist should tame a lot or even eliminate cast shadows from a drawing or painting for they tend to destroy the illusion of form of the object they're casted upon. What do you think?

I came for Stan, I’m staying for Marshall! Love the banter. Need to catch up on the series.

Marshall the best!! :D without shoes, I like his attitude. Congrats, you are a super team together and valuable, its important :)

ok wow gonna to save this one for later, pure gold info fo diving in to anatomy. Thanks guys!

I have been studying anatomy for 6 years now. As well as physiology. And drawing while focusing on the anatomy is difficult, but I just go a little slower. Look at it and give your mind a few minutes to put the image together.

@keemielulep840

4 жыл бұрын

I know im 9 months late but have you yet mastered anatomy?

One thing I think is...if you are pursuing anatomy and learning to draw, drawing from LIVE models!!!, rather than photos or in addition to, because gesture can be observed, and practiced and you can build in 3D with lighting. And I agree, Hale is king! I learn from him over and over. His analysis of anatomy conveyed artistically in master drawings is amazing!! Thank you!

@tjduprey

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I get so much more from a model than I do from a book.

@barbarajohnson1442

5 жыл бұрын

TJ Duprey I love going back and forth, lots of different Anatomy books explain the forms differently, sometimes one explanation will drive the concept home to me. Sometimes Vanderpoels description helps, sometimes Peck, Hogarth....especially hands. And Proko live drawing, of course! But it all must be grounded in live model.

"13:35" btw i learned the names and I'm quite happy about it. For the reasons that Marshall said and in addition to that , it upgrades yourself in the higher levels of art IMO.

I had some of , or most of the books/ drawing on the right side of the brain etc, and I took a break from the college I was at before I went back to get my things since I didn't meet the requirements in animation of background and storyboard class (failed it, instructor would circle my mistakes in red but he wouldn't offer any explanation on how to correct the problems). And the rest of my class were too busy with their work for me to correct and pass that class. I went back one day to collect my books that I paid for along with my tuition and all, and the teachers said, " your things aren't here". Thank you community college, for either donating the things I paid for to another student without asking me or throwing my things out. I guess I should have paid closer attention to some of the subtle things that some of our students were changing schools , moving across province etc. to take design classes from the school that 2 of our instructors graduated from. But everything seemed alright at the time.

41:02 I got shivers. That's hauntingly beautiful!

As someone who's gone to all the Body Worlds exhibits, I would recommend it to anyone. It won't teach you to draw, but if you're a scientist or even if you're spiritual, it's incredible

Started with michael hampton's book, then now onto Bridgman's. Most of the time I would still refer to hampton's simplified explanation of what is in Bridgman. Those two book works hand in hand exceptionally.

All books you guys shown + Anatomy for Sculptors by Uldis Zarins and Classic Human Anatony+Classic Human Anatony in Motion by Valerie L Winslow

@sapnayadav205

5 жыл бұрын

Hi tiago

Exactly when we need it

who would've guessed , i couldnt get to my headphones and i just randomly pressed the captions button and sure enough they have made subtitles for a 45 minute podcast, this is why i love proko :) , also guys can you please tell me where i can get a movable model of a skeleton, ive been studying anatomy for 3 years & i really want to improve more would be realy helpful thanks alot ! always look forward to your videos

Great discussion. Amazing bibliography.

The Mar man not letting Stan get away with ANYTHING this ep. Love it!

I love you guys. Best youtube channel ever.

Thanks Proko I learned a lot of things from you😁

Love the podcast. Makes me think all the more that I need a art coach and/or mentor. Being as I live overseas (Japan), could you cover picking a remote mentor and how to know you are picking someone suitable to your needs. Such an easy topic I am sure ;-) JK I know this would be a nightmare of a topic... I am starting to think what I need most is critical reviews.

I can only relate based on my experience in posing.Details in muscles are unique to each petson,therefore there can be flexibility on illustrating them. Example there is something called striations,but everyone has different amounts , it can be portrayed according to the overall proportion of the persons body.In short you can play with lines,as long as everything is in proportion to each other

Thanks a lot guys for tour time!

You guys are awesome! LOL I love these podcasts

I love these videos. I can draw while listening to this! :')

i did the exact mistake they mentioned here. I started the proko anatomy course and it was very arduous without the fundamental context. about 20 videos in I went back to their figure drawing fundamentals (about the construction from gesture to simplified forms) and i then realized that the structure is 90% of the work.

I have an anatomical skull from batch #2, love it, his name is Jones Bones

The anatomy books I've referred to the most are Stephen Roger Peck's book for the exact reason Marshal pointed out, Elliot Goldfinger's book and Anatomy For Sculptors, I'm sure there's more info in other books but I kinda stuck to these and decided not to overwhelm myself.

Stan and Marshall, I’m currently studying my first book on anatomy (By Michael Hampton). As a beginner I still think of the basics, but I’d appreciate a video on the principals of critical thinking while drawing (while you’re drawing). What are the things I should allow my brain to do while thinking through a drawing? I want to learn how to be an efficient and fluid thinker. What mental/ physical traits could you guys expand on to help a beginner allow their brain, hand/arm to learn how to draw easier.

This is a really inspiring episode!

Just got my anatomical skull yesterday! Woohoo! :)

very entertaining and informative. Keeps you laughing but also going like "ohhhh" throughout the whole video

These videos are Gold