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How To Keep Your SDI Output From Blowing Up

I've seen an epidemic of this issue on forums/Facebook groups etc, and I've boiled down the solution to one SIMPLE rule:
"REMOVE ALL SDI CABLES BEFORE PLUGGING/UNPLUGGING POWER"
If you don't do this, you are at risk of DESTROYING your SDI output on your camera which could lead to massive ramifications on set.

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  • @shankvfx7054
    @shankvfx70543 жыл бұрын

    Cannot believe this is still a problem in 2021, mind blowing.

  • @ThomasPrettyman01

    @ThomasPrettyman01

    Жыл бұрын

    imagine it still being a problem in 2023.

  • @MikeCerberGEO

    @MikeCerberGEO

    3 ай бұрын

    2024

  • @MarkRichardsontv

    @MarkRichardsontv

    6 күн бұрын

    @@MikeCerberGEO 2025

  • @AndyThirtover
    @AndyThirtover2 жыл бұрын

    As an engineer this is so sad. It could be designed out for less than a dollar/euro/pound. You'd never get this issue with consumer grade products.

  • @poti732

    @poti732

    10 ай бұрын

    ISNT THERE A LITTLE ADAPTER that could solve this issue?

  • @wdigivideo
    @wdigivideo2 жыл бұрын

    This issue is actually prevalent specifically with 12G SDI not 3G and HD-SDI. This is a great video as we should always follow best practices! However a few things can mitigate the issue.. 12G SDI cables by Canare and Belden that are shielded, and LEMO 2 and 3 pin power cables that have a shield as well. The issue is specifically problematic with D-TAP (unshielded) and 3G unshielded SDI cable.. At our rental facility we have brought in a full stock of shielded SDI 12G and got them in bright RED so we can differentiate visually between those and the unshielded variant. As well we are configuring all our Komodo and other 12G cameras to use Lemo power cables where possible rather then d-tap.. just an added 2c.. great vid though!

  • @ryanjosephdp

    @ryanjosephdp

    2 жыл бұрын

    does this allow you to power down/up the RED without pulling the SDI? or should you still do that

  • @wdigivideo

    @wdigivideo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanjosephdp While shielded 12G cables and lemo power does mitigate the issue significantly. Its a good habit to train yourself to remove SDI before removing power cables. Also to be clear, if both power and SDI cables are connected then powering up and down your Komodo will not damage the SDI port. Pulling the SDI cable is suggested to be done BEFORE removing the power cable (D-tap or Lemo). The issue is caused specifically when the SDI is connected without the power cable while a battery is installed allowing the SDI cable to conduct ground..

  • @productionresource3333

    @productionresource3333

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wdigivideo What about a sharkfin and hotswapping one of the batts while the other is still powering camera?

  • @wdigivideo

    @wdigivideo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@productionresource3333 if you are keeping the camera powered up then the SDI can stay connected, so yes this will work. Realistically powering down with SDI connected should not damage the port just to swap a battery. However it’s always best to create a routine in your workflow so SDI last on and first off regardless of the situation means that you never put yourself in the situation where you should have removed it but didn’t. Creating routines helps you avoid task loading and making mistakes

  • @productionresource3333

    @productionresource3333

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wdigivideo I see. So the SDI short only occurs when the circuit is broken or completed, then.

  • @queefreak666
    @queefreak666 Жыл бұрын

    11 years using Canon C300, C300mkll and now C500mkll and I've never even heard of this dilemma. Been plugging, powering and unplugging SDI and power in every conceivable possibility with zero regard of these power spikes and never had any issues.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    Жыл бұрын

    It just takes once

  • @cubul32
    @cubul32 Жыл бұрын

    The SDI should be disconnected just at one end. Makes no sense to unplug both ends.

  • @ratonstubey1306
    @ratonstubey13063 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this. Two weeks ago I lost an SDI port on my Panasonic Varicam because I didn’t know this. It is very sad and will cost me $600 and about a week.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    So sad!

  • @modernhumantv

    @modernhumantv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to hear. Have you had any issues since, once you followed the above protocol? I just fried a port on my Varicam LT as well. I'm paranoid about it and I'm scared to try plugging everything in again. Just need some peace of mind.

  • @wyldflowerfilmwerks6008

    @wyldflowerfilmwerks6008

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@modernhumantv mine just fried in my varicam as well!

  • @modernhumantv

    @modernhumantv

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@wyldflowerfilmwerks6008 What do you have plugged into your Varicam? After going through this whole problem, of course, in the middle of the biggest shoot of my life, I had a few things plugged in improperly. First, follow Red's protocol for unplugging / plugging in SDI cables (It's a PITA, but is good insurance). Sorry don't know link, but just search for it. Second, don't go overboard with splitters and / or power routing. I think this second issue was more the problem for me. I had changed my power routing for a steadicam rig and ran an external battery setup in a strange way. If running external power, just keep it simple and making sure to use high quality battery plates like Wooden Camera (with built in fuses) or the main plate on the back of the camera (which has a fuse). When I talked with the tech who fixed the camera at Panasonic, he said I essentially blew a 20amp fuse inside the camera, which meant there was a huge power surge. All the main boards were fine. That was good, because it only cost $1000 ;( instead of who knows what? But it was frustrating that, if Panasonic had made the fuse user accessible it would've been like a dollar to fix. DON'T TRY AND OPEN THE CAMERA. The engineer told me repeatedly, for any future problems not to try and open it, because it's extremely complicated inside and takes about 2 hours to get to. But camera manufacturers need to let people access these kind of things, on cameras this costly, because it would save a lot of money and time in the field. Once he fixed it and I followed the above two steps, we filmed for the next 6 weeks, not a single problem with the camera. Not sure what you did specifically, but hopefully you figure it out and it never happens again.

  • @michaelquack2126
    @michaelquack21263 жыл бұрын

    The problem is different. Many people power their systems with a single power source and power distributor plates. When one cable loses ground connection, the power for this might run over another device, frying this device because of the extra load. That happens with batteries as well, when everything runs from one V-lock battery.

  • @marekmucha2300

    @marekmucha2300

    2 жыл бұрын

    So it's not a good idea to power camera and monitor from one V - Mount battery? I plan on doing so on canon C70

  • @VisualPursuit

    @VisualPursuit

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marekmucha2300 Unfortunately not. On the other hand this affects SDI much more than HDMI, and the C70 has no SDI. Risk assessment is up to you.

  • @marekmucha2300

    @marekmucha2300

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@VisualPursuit I do have SDI cross conversion monitor tho, so there is SDI out to consider.

  • @James-wm4tt
    @James-wm4tt Жыл бұрын

    This is the same thing with blackmagic cameras and their HDMI ports frying. Thank you for this!

  • @DJKoren
    @DJKoren3 жыл бұрын

    That’s something I didn’t know existed, but it’s definitely good to know now.

  • @jamesandcamera
    @jamesandcamera17 күн бұрын

    The TLDR is, just have your camera and accessories turned off and unplug wall power while you build or make changes to your camera rig. Seems simple, but an easy mistake to make when in a rush.

  • @martin_minds
    @martin_minds2 жыл бұрын

    i have the same issue with a atem constellation switcher, but it feels very unrealistic to disconnect all external devices everytime in f.e. in a studio setup. but thanks for the info. stay safe.

  • @gethinevans8596
    @gethinevans85963 жыл бұрын

    You can use a SDI galvanic isolator. They sell ones rated for 12G for around $500 cheap insurance.

  • @gethinevans8596

    @gethinevans8596

    3 жыл бұрын

    L4KGI-01 - Overview LEN Limited Protects your Operators and Equipment from shock damage during installation...Eliminates interference during operation! The LEN galvanic isolators use broadband high-pass filters to provide isolation of DC currents between two pieces of equipment, whilst permitting the full bandwidth of the 4K SDI signal to pass, so avoiding problems of signal distortion and operator shocks caused by a voltage difference. This method far out-performs broadband transformers for SDI signals. Both the signal and the ground paths between equipment are isolated, there is no distortion of the signal. Another problem with coaxial cable use, that is solved by the LEN 4K Isolator, is in applications such as Outside Broadcast, where large voltages can build up on the outer cable shield due to different ground potentials at each end of the cable run, producing a spark as the cable is connected to its destination connector. This is particularly a problem in drier parts of the world. The LEN 4K SDI Video Galvanic Isolator is offered in two options. Option one is an in-line 'barrel', suitable for portable applications, and option two has a mounting flange at one end to facilitate rack-panel mounting, for applications such as tailboard feedthrough. Our Engineers at LEN have called on their long experience working with ultra-high frequency filter design for the Military to produce a product that is compliant to the SMPTE 6G and 12G specifications and fully tested on high end Vector Network Analyzers. We understand what is needed to design good product at such very high frequencies. Operation over coax at 4K / 12G has been awaiting the release of companion products to the LEN 4K Isolators, such as 12G rated BNC connectors and coaxial cable. These are now reaching the marketplace.

  • @modernhumantv

    @modernhumantv

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gethinevans8596 Hi Gethin, I just purchased two of the LEN 3G barrel isolators. So these will not allow SDI ports to blow, regardless of how things are plugged in? I just recently had a Varicam LT SDI port blow and I'm scared to plug anything in at this point, just want to be careful. Thanks

  • @stela_camera_girl
    @stela_camera_girlАй бұрын

    Should the camera be On or just powered with the camera Off? Thanks for this vital information!

  • @brandonsmith1532
    @brandonsmith15323 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you treating this with professionalism!!! I get my Komodo here soon and I loved how simple you made this! BEST

  • @Dimidth_Petkovski
    @Dimidth_Petkovski6 ай бұрын

    I have a mantra 'cable in when power on' 'Cable out when power on' Rule Does not apply when not powered by mains ac supply.

  • @jesseyules
    @jesseyules3 жыл бұрын

    RED should fix this with breaker or fuse. That's quite a design flaw for such an expensive system.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup! Some companies have made some cables that fix the issue.

  • @Johny15HD

    @Johny15HD

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheObsessiveDP can you link us the cables with that feature? Thank you!

  • @BrandonTalbot

    @BrandonTalbot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheObsessiveDP What are these cables?

  • @elijahyourdad3937
    @elijahyourdad39373 жыл бұрын

    So should I turn on the camera before or after I plug in the Sdi cable?

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    I personally am not sure if it matters. What matters most is actually plugging in or unplugging the AC power cable.

  • @alexiskobalt7450

    @alexiskobalt7450

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can leave the camera on if you have already powered off the device it is connected to (example: external monitor). Hot plugging SDI (or HDMI) between two running devices runs the risk of a short, especially if the BNC cable you are using is not high quality and shielded.

  • @DanielScottFilms
    @DanielScottFilms2 жыл бұрын

    Good advice here. Also applies to HDMI.

  • @tylerstewartmedia
    @tylerstewartmedia3 жыл бұрын

    Does this happen when connecting a battery or only AC power?

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    They say it only happens with AC. But I would go the extra mile!

  • @joshhill9754

    @joshhill9754

    3 жыл бұрын

    It definitely does not happen when you use batteries.

  • @jasonhambach5528

    @jasonhambach5528

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshhill9754 It can definitely happen with batteries.

  • @funnymono

    @funnymono

    3 жыл бұрын

    Does this also apply if you are switching the power on/off to the monitor? Like pressing the power button. That would be a serious time sink.

  • @zzrgio

    @zzrgio

    2 жыл бұрын

    better not to get confused and use one system only XD

  • @trondhines4413
    @trondhines44132 жыл бұрын

    Is this also the case with HDMI?

  • @faithhouse6111
    @faithhouse61112 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to you posting more content. I know you are probably busy with actual film as a real DP. Quick question, is there a type of filmmaker or scenario(use case) that would cause you to not recommend the Komodo?

  • @alexrouleau_
    @alexrouleau_ Жыл бұрын

    Is this an issue if you aren’t hardwiring your power to the grid? For example if I’m only powering off of a gold mount on a distribution box

  • @KienDLuu
    @KienDLuu3 жыл бұрын

    So every time you replace the battery on set, you have to remove SDI’s? That seems like a design flaw to me.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree. It seems like there should be a hardware fix.

  • @Mvoj91

    @Mvoj91

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@TheObsessiveDP Let's say your not using V-Mount but hotswapping your BP Batterys.. Then you should be safe without disconnecting SDI cables right? Because you always have a power source? Or is it still risky?

  • @JimmyAlioto

    @JimmyAlioto

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mvoj91 great question!!! hopefully someone will respond.

  • @Dom-ho2wf

    @Dom-ho2wf

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mvoj91 did u find out the answer?

  • @keylightfilmsYT
    @keylightfilmsYT3 жыл бұрын

    Great information! I assume this shouldn't be a procedure if hot-swapping the canon BP's?

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    No. It Doesn’t seem to be an issue with batteries.

  • @Dimidth_Petkovski
    @Dimidth_Petkovski6 ай бұрын

    Hi... Can you pls send me the link of v mount battery adapter you used and the battery? Looks you built no power hungry set up....

  • @Dimidth_Petkovski

    @Dimidth_Petkovski

    6 ай бұрын

    Pls respond

  • @NathanKatash
    @NathanKatash Жыл бұрын

    so you need to turn on the camera befor sdi or just connect the power and you dont have to turn on the camera to connect the sdi ??

  • @creativefilmz
    @creativefilmz2 жыл бұрын

    Once everything is powered and SDI's are connected can the camera and or monitor be turned off and on? 2nd question if monitor battery needs to be changed the SDI cable has to come off first on both ends monitor and camera to swap the monitor battery.

  • @zakaroonetwork777
    @zakaroonetwork7775 ай бұрын

    CAMVATE 12G-SDI BNC Protector Current Isolation Cable ???

  • @Alexproduction27
    @Alexproduction272 жыл бұрын

    Which sdi do you use?

  • @EstebanRiveraCinematographer
    @EstebanRiveraCinematographer3 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, quick random question - have you had any issues with the Tilta V-mount plate at all? Saw it come off at @1:18 I'm running the CORE SWX V-Mount Plate and it has lots of play, sometimes bricking the camera when bumped. Thinking of changing to a tilta one.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great Q! Yeah the tilta has more play than I’d like it to but I’ve moved it around and bumped it while the camera is powered up and haven’t lost connection. It’s annoying but it doesn’t seem to be a real problem for us.

  • @ArtoflightProductions
    @ArtoflightProductions2 жыл бұрын

    Actually what you are doing, tapping the SDI connector with your finger like that is also a risk, as it gets burned due to static electrition as well.

  • @VovaVidilin

    @VovaVidilin

    2 жыл бұрын

    All while getting fat and dust inside that connector :)

  • @Walidbadereddine
    @Walidbadereddine3 жыл бұрын

    thank you for the video this step is only for wall plug or changing batrry too ?

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    They say you should use these steps for any power source

  • @Nathan.Willan
    @Nathan.Willan8 ай бұрын

    1 power→SDI→OPEN cam 2 Shutdown All → SDI → Remove power , SDI is the step2 allways

  • @ynobe08
    @ynobe082 жыл бұрын

    Hi first time red user so I did power everything on and then connected my monitor. However after my shoot was done I accidentally shut off my camera before unplugging everything . Please tell me does it cause any damage or is it more of an impact when powering up?

  • @zakaroonetwork777
    @zakaroonetwork7775 ай бұрын

    Can you leave the sdi cable plugged into the display only?

  • @StephenStrangways

    @StephenStrangways

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes. You only need to disconnect one end.

  • @thegirlwithmemes
    @thegirlwithmemes3 ай бұрын

    anybody know if it's the same for HDMI's?

  • @thatcherfreeman
    @thatcherfreeman2 жыл бұрын

    In that screenshot of the doc by Arri at the beginning, doesn't it say to turn on your accessories *after* you've connected all the video and power cables?

  • @TurquoiseFilms
    @TurquoiseFilms2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info! What ab batteries?

  • @jhuffman92
    @jhuffman92 Жыл бұрын

    I just received my Komodo and am running a Small HD 702 powered by the Canon LP batteries on the monitor. Do I need to be as worried about power surges around my SDI cable if the monitor has its own power source outside of the camera still? I know the super safe method is always removing the SDI, but just curious

  • @robertruffo2134

    @robertruffo2134

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes.

  • @sweeneagle16
    @sweeneagle16 Жыл бұрын

    What if you’re running on battery only? Do you have to remove SDI cables before switching batteries?

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes.

  • @videographiya
    @videographiya2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool stickers. Mind to tell where did you order them?

  • @jahpuy_art479
    @jahpuy_art4792 жыл бұрын

    hello with my red komodo today without doing it on purpose I forgot to unplug my sdi cable and I turned off my red and after I turned off my monitor I don't know if I burned my sdi port???

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re probably fine. Just remember to follow protocol next time!

  • @proyectosinteresantes5641
    @proyectosinteresantes56412 жыл бұрын

    What about a fixed installation?? or TV studio ... you must to disconect every sdi every morning? ... I dont think so....

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    if you are replugging in AC plug = YES. if not, you should be golden,

  • @ryanjosephdp
    @ryanjosephdp2 жыл бұрын

    What about when turning the camera on/off?

  • @ThatCampingLad
    @ThatCampingLad Жыл бұрын

    I’ve had 2 SmallHD cine5 break in their first use. 2 different cameras, once running from dtap once from Sony batteries. Followed protocol but SDI out stopped working. It’s a joke

  • @massakidi
    @massakidi2 жыл бұрын

    is this relevant if you are using batteries?

  • @queefreak666
    @queefreak666 Жыл бұрын

    Seems odd. Not one rental house I've ever used has ever had instructions for protocols on this issue. You would think their cameras would be getting bricked weekly if this were the case.

  • @eirikskarstein9964

    @eirikskarstein9964

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah same here

  • @bandamountcinematics
    @bandamountcinematics Жыл бұрын

    All you gotta do is just plug a sdi cord into the monitor and camera and use 95 canon batteries and or v mount why plug in the camera to the electricity wall anyway that’s no different then plugging a laptop into a car a/c plug outlet that takes outlets you’ll burn it cause of the power of the Volts

  • @seanchakou2154
    @seanchakou21542 жыл бұрын

    Hello guy, good demonstration thank a lot. juste a question please do we have the same process or issue with hdmi ( remove all hdmi cablesbefore plugging and unpluggin power)?

  • @CaravanCamera

    @CaravanCamera

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @seanchakou2154

    @seanchakou2154

    9 ай бұрын

    @@CaravanCamera thanks

  • @wescortez
    @wescortez2 жыл бұрын

    Just got my first RED, good to know brotha thanks.

  • @AlexDerrick_DP
    @AlexDerrick_DP2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video. So does the SGI cable go out all of a sudden, or does it flicker on and off. Last night on set, my monitor was going out intermittently whenever I bumped the cable. I think this might be a different issue, but I changed the cable (thin 12G SDI) and it still seemed to be a little wonky. But it was fine once I moved from gimble to tripod and wasnt knocking the cable so much. I'm going to try rn w/ another thicker 12G cable I have. Maybe it's the cable not my SGI port. Fingers crossed.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    Feels like a cable issue. The whole sdi jack on camera gets fried when this issue occurs.

  • @AlexDerrick_DP

    @AlexDerrick_DP

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheObsessiveDP You're right, I changed to a different cable and it's working fine. Now to find a right angle 12G SGI slim cable =D

  • @abhishekjadhav4572
    @abhishekjadhav45723 жыл бұрын

    10 downvotes from SDI port manufacturers :"D

  • @mij4122
    @mij41222 жыл бұрын

    So lets assume you are using a larger V lock battery with the same tilta plate you have. You can not access the SDI port after the battery is on the camera. How would you approach that situation

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    We’ve used a shark fin before. It only allows for one battery to be used but it clears the ports on the bottom.

  • @StephenStrangways

    @StephenStrangways

    3 ай бұрын

    Just unplug the BNC from the monitor. You can leave the other end connected to the camera.

  • @Pierluca72
    @Pierluca722 жыл бұрын

    I didn't get when you turn on the camera? I thought it was about NOT plugging or unplugging SDI when the monitor or the camera are on, but first connect SDI and then turn the camera and the monitor on

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nooo! Turn the camera on or off WITHOUT SDI attached. DO NOT attach SDI first

  • @funnymono

    @funnymono

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheObsessiveDP So every time I switch my camera ON or OFF to save on battery , I have to remove the cable? That seems like a huge time sink.

  • @StephenStrangways

    @StephenStrangways

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@funnymononot when you turn it on or off, only when you attach/remove a battery or power cable.

  • @MohaMughaFilm
    @MohaMughaFilm2 жыл бұрын

    "Power" means when the camera & monitor are switched on or also when they're switched off but the batteries are plugged in? My question is, can I turn on/off my camera and monitor while the SDI cable is connected? Should it be fine as long as I'm not changing batteries?

  • @modernhumantv

    @modernhumantv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Turning your camera / monitor on and off, after you've plugged everything in (in the correct order of course), you have established a common ground and you shouldn't have any problem doing that. It's when you plug power cables in and the pins don't connect in the correct order and that then sends power through the SDI cable and completes the circuit. Unfortunately, it's sending the power into a sensitive low voltage SDI chip, which is why it gets fried.

  • @marshallandroxy
    @marshallandroxy2 жыл бұрын

    Okay, help a brother out.....if I've got a monitor and I'm powering the monitor with it's own Sony NPF battery.....and I'm powering my Komodo with a battery on the back........I would turn on my monitor first, connect the sdi to it.....turn on the camera, then connect the sdi to the camera ............. when turning off the camera ( to change battery on monitor etc...)...........just disconnect the sdi from camera first? Right? I really don't want to brick a $6000 camera. (no sdi = a brick)

  • @chrisw1462
    @chrisw1462Ай бұрын

    Let's pretend (sic) this video was two minutes shorter without all the pretending.

  • @PaulePorter
    @PaulePorter3 жыл бұрын

    Does it also apply when working with batteries. NPF on SmallHD and BP on Komodo?

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    As far as I can tell, it’s only a problem with AC power so you *should* be fine. But for us, it’s better to just always follow the protocol, even with batteries

  • @StudioMint
    @StudioMint3 жыл бұрын

    Is it a problem with Red Helium? After watching this video, I just use HDMI.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    As far as I understand it. It's a problem with all cameras, but the 12g ports are more susceptible to damage.

  • @bigchiefcinema9654
    @bigchiefcinema96542 жыл бұрын

    amazing info, thank you for this

  • @Thejohnventura
    @Thejohnventura2 жыл бұрын

    Should the monitor and Komodo be off before I remove the SDI?

  • @Thejohnventura

    @Thejohnventura

    2 жыл бұрын

    I heard from another youtuber to NOT turn off the Komodo but remove SDI cables first. Can you clarify?

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Remove sdi cables before doing anything with power - plugging in or unplugging.

  • @raildude270
    @raildude2702 жыл бұрын

    That seems like a huge pain. I would way rather use HDMI because I wouldn’t have to do any of that

  • @MAD_CHILLER
    @MAD_CHILLER Жыл бұрын

    This applies to HDMi also…. Any video “signal” cable really.

  • @robertruffo2134

    @robertruffo2134

    8 ай бұрын

    No, not really. Only 12G SDI.

  • @MAD_CHILLER

    @MAD_CHILLER

    8 ай бұрын

    @@robertruffo2134 um no it doesn’t ..

  • @robertruffo2134

    @robertruffo2134

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MAD_CHILLER HDMI ports fail for other reasons. They don't like being connected "hot". That's actually what burns them. Other SDI are very unlikely to have this problem, which is why you almost never heard about this issue until a popular cam with 12G SDI was released..

  • @MAD_CHILLER

    @MAD_CHILLER

    8 ай бұрын

    @@robertruffo2134the ground looping issue affects hdmi just as much as anything . It comes down to bad practices . In all things it’s should be be . Connect power first. Connect signal.. power on and shoot.. Reverse for tear down. It’s that simple.

  • @MicahBrownMedia
    @MicahBrownMedia3 жыл бұрын

    Great tip! Thanks!

  • @stuartswindellcampoy8483
    @stuartswindellcampoy84832 жыл бұрын

    im guessing you turn on every equipment before you connect sdi

  • @starttofinishmediaco.2520
    @starttofinishmediaco.25202 жыл бұрын

    damn. now i'm nervous to even touch the camera lol great vid

  • @eastcoastsailingcenter7768
    @eastcoastsailingcenter77682 жыл бұрын

    lol!!! i never had a blow out like that ... is it a red issue?

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s and issue with All cameras as far as I know. I think 12g helps it to be a bigger issue

  • @dyno-filmmakerdop8913
    @dyno-filmmakerdop89133 жыл бұрын

    this procedure is done only with the connection to the electricity network or also with the use of vlock batteries?

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    As far as I know, the concern is with AC power only. But why not be safe and do it with batteries as well?

  • @badGamr

    @badGamr

    3 жыл бұрын

    This applies to batteries as well. You can even blow an SDI port by using the same battery to power the camera and a seperate monitor via d-tap.

  • @modernhumantv

    @modernhumantv

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@badGamr Yeah, I blew my Varicam LT port with a Gold Mount battery and P-Tap running to Atomos monitor and camera, for a steadicam rig. So, just to confirm, if I follow the power first SDI second rule, I should avoid this problem? Thanks

  • @badGamr

    @badGamr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@modernhumantv Running separate power to the monitor and camera is the solution.

  • @modernhumantv

    @modernhumantv

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@badGamr I've heard just the opposite. Why two power sources instead of one? The idea is to get the monitor and camera on a common ground, before connecting SDI. With multiple battery sources it seems like following the power procedure would be much more tedious and difficult to follow. Also, most professional setups utilize one power supply, that's why Alexas and Reds have power outputs.

  • @haroendaoud5037
    @haroendaoud50373 жыл бұрын

    this guy saved my ass

  • @shotbymatias9324
    @shotbymatias93245 ай бұрын

    This never happens with the LF

  • @jamesbridges1107
    @jamesbridges11078 ай бұрын

    Save yourself some time. Power then SDI SDI then power. I’m exhausted watching this…

  • @Justin_Allen
    @Justin_Allen3 жыл бұрын

    Blackmagic cameras have this same issue with HDMI cables. I would expand this to say Remove all video cables before adding or taking away power.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good call

  • @AustralianImage

    @AustralianImage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Incorrect. All cables should be connected first and then the power switched on, and switched off before removing cables. Use a V-mount battery plate with an on/off switch, or if using say an NP-F battery adapter, do not attach battery until everything is plugged in. Connecting anything while the power is on will very likely guarantee a burned out HDMI port. SDI works differently and even ARRI put out a bulletin saying connect the power cables first, then the SDI and then turn on power. Quote: 'To prevent this damage to the SDI outputs, ALWAYS make sure to plug in the power cable first and THEN connect the BNC cable. Once power and BNC cables are connected, it is OK to power the camera or accessory on or off. Also, ALWAYS make sure to disconnect the BNC cable first and THEN disconnect the power cable. '

  • @j.oakley9588

    @j.oakley9588

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AustralianImage dammit. This is pretty much the exact opposite of what he’s saying in the video. Your description is how I have understood it as well. I have seen many discussions, specifically with Blackmagic cameras, about this issue. So regardless of whether it’s HDMI or SDI, we connect everything first and then power everything on? I’ve powered my camera on and off with and without accessories a million times. And at some point I know I have missed the steps up. Maybe I got lucky. But I want to do it right. As of late, I have been powering my monitor off an NPF attached to my rig, and my camera powered by V lock battery-on a plate that has an on/off switch. Also, what if there is no on/off switch on the battery/plate? And what about the little things, like powering the camera down between set ups and whatnot? We are not expected to disconnect everything every time we turn the camera off, correct? Because I don’t do that. This is all pretty confusing to be honest.

  • @AustralianImage

    @AustralianImage

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j.oakley9588 What happens is that many people equate SDI requirements with HDMI requirements. As I've noted before, ARRI issued a bulletin on how to avoid damaging SDI (BNC) connectors and that process is quite specific because of the nature of SDI. In theory, you can plug and unplug HDMI cables as you would USB cables, but there's always the risk, so with cameras and monitors I always power off before connecting/disconnecting cables. If a battery plate has no on/off switch, just make certain all the devices are off and remove the battery first.

  • @j.oakley9588

    @j.oakley9588

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AustralianImage copy that. Same too with SDI and HDMI connections I assume? Like if I hooked an evf into my monitor via SDI, but my monitor is receiving the camera’s signal via HDMI m. There’s no SDI on my camera but I use a portkeys BM5 which has an SDI out.

  • @rinnywilson1400
    @rinnywilson14002 жыл бұрын

    "This happens when one pin hits the outlet before the other one" So....batteries are fine. Gotcha.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love the name!

  • @Arcomade

    @Arcomade

    2 жыл бұрын

    They aren’t though. There’s a whole bunch of complaints about black magic pocket cinema cameras having the exact same issue on the hdmi port burning out. Most people thought it came from powering everything off the same battery, but it seems like even using separate power sources can cause the burn out eventually unless you follow proper plugging/unplugging procedure.

  • @Owlbot
    @Owlbot3 жыл бұрын

    This only applies to 6G/12G SDI, as an aside.

  • @mikeprins2946

    @mikeprins2946

    2 жыл бұрын

    And 3G SDI? like the alphatron EVF 035-W?

  • @JacobVossFilms

    @JacobVossFilms

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mikeprins2946 it’s much less common on 3G-SDI. It can happen but not very often

  • @renstarhurst3302
    @renstarhurst33022 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much

  • @wyat5011
    @wyat50113 жыл бұрын

    Sorry newbie so here is a newbie question--can you turn off the monitor , then remove the sdi and then the power cable? Same plug the power , then turn on the monitor and then connect the sdi

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    You nailed it!

  • @DANELVES
    @DANELVES3 жыл бұрын

    Thank You

  • @AndresDiazlores
    @AndresDiazlores2 жыл бұрын

    6 months since the last video :(

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    2 жыл бұрын

    working on it! hold tight!

  • @screenboiler
    @screenboiler2 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff

  • @arikalasrireddy6620
    @arikalasrireddy66202 жыл бұрын

    I want camera second hand bro

  • @slowpoke96Z28
    @slowpoke96Z284 ай бұрын

    Holy fuck, 100 seconds of info in a 5 minute video. Good info though.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    4 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the review

  • @egypratama7379
    @egypratama73792 жыл бұрын

    Last in, first out

  • @vs-pictures
    @vs-pictures2 жыл бұрын

    Thank's👌

  • @fluffymacaw933
    @fluffymacaw933 Жыл бұрын

    Glad I only have 3g sdi

  • @rumorscameras
    @rumorscameras Жыл бұрын

    just power with a battery first

  • @theolufson
    @theolufson3 жыл бұрын

    Golden

  • @anthonyscopino4934

    @anthonyscopino4934

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve owned Komodo for around 9 months now, and haven’t had any issues really. With that being said I just want to implement this safety as part of my workflow. I used to follow the protocol that Phil Holland put out for Red. So ideally would you recommend having both camera, monitor, and accessories such as Red Control, FIZ units etc., powered before inserting the BNC cable? Or just make sure everything has power flowing such as cam, monitor, FIZ, Teradek etc., whether on/off?

  • @IRoseSpidey
    @IRoseSpidey3 жыл бұрын

    I hope everyone is having a safe and amazing day! 😃💙 #NotificationSquad

  • @ahmadkhansial
    @ahmadkhansial3 жыл бұрын

    He said 1 lac time Remove SDI

  • @JBGIMAGINATION
    @JBGIMAGINATION2 жыл бұрын

    Call things what they are man, lol. Put it here put it there, connect that and this. Why can't you be more specific? also, not everyone has the same accessories as you.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    Жыл бұрын

    Help me my man. Do you have a simpler way of saying “ unplug SDI before plugging or unplugging power” ???

  • @gilbertnguyen4704
    @gilbertnguyen47048 ай бұрын

    Please just come to the point without the "jokes"

  • @issyD16
    @issyD163 жыл бұрын

    Omg early and first

  • @nlimax
    @nlimax Жыл бұрын

    Shame on you red

  • @Nathan.Willan
    @Nathan.Willan8 ай бұрын

    What you said confuses us. Please talk less and operate more. We want to see the correct operation. As long as you don't speak.

  • @A10Jedi
    @A10Jedi2 жыл бұрын

    Get to the point

  • @willvazquez3218
    @willvazquez32183 жыл бұрын

    This goes to show how crappy a RED Komodo is. I’ve used tons of different Alexa bodies in my career and with Teradeks and never done this and nothing has ever happened.

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    www.arri.com/resource/blob/194752/26e7a4ca07e7a8f0ce038b23109b216c/download-technical-information-data.pdf

  • @TheObsessiveDP

    @TheObsessiveDP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately this problem applies to all cameras with SDI outputs.

  • @solofxug

    @solofxug

    3 жыл бұрын

    Please note, its a very common issue with 12G sdi. 3G sdi is more robust but wouldn't rule them out as I've also broken a 3g sdi once but several 12G sdi

  • @cyberacers

    @cyberacers

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same to me nothing happened

  • @chronicmisadventuresofslac374

    @chronicmisadventuresofslac374

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheObsessiveDP Thanks for the Arri link. Does Red have the same type of doc? I own a Red Scarlet-W with RED DSMC2 V-Lock I/O Expander and have never had problems with the SDI output, but I primarily run off of bricks. Would this type of issue only effect the I/O expander and not the camera brain?