**Update** Silicon spray or WD40 makes it easier, but Copper Slip grease is even better!

@tony5006

4 жыл бұрын

Better still silicone grease, it stays where you put it.

@p.t.anderson1593

4 жыл бұрын

I've done something similar but I use a tiny dab of synthetic boat trailer bearing grease on the washer and the threads. Where I live we have ratcheting box end wrenches, some with variable angle handles...

@catspaw3815

4 жыл бұрын

for exterior applications, use silicone caulk for sealing out water leakage if rusting is a factor

@walterward8164

3 жыл бұрын

I'm in a fix. I have a 1986 Pontiac 2.8lt injected and a irreplaceable intake with thermostat housing ( Pot metal) bolt holes stripped. Cap won't hold and leaks. Thin walls M10 bolts. Though was drop to M8 resess holes for depth of lip. Love keep it simple tooling. Missing my Master Cheif Navel Air father. 1939-69. Car is 6000 STE. Wife's poshpontiac. Making brain numb

@lancecooper4646

3 жыл бұрын

Put a "Ball Thrust Bearing" under the nut

Use a brass washer between the nut and plate tool. Brass will allow the nut to slip around as you tighten it. The brass is almost like a lubricant but it doesn't get squeezed out.

@jeremykemp3782

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic bit of info

@underourrock

Жыл бұрын

Was going to suggest the same thing. The bracket acts like a washer. A second washer allows a bit more slip than one washer alone. Might be neat to see if steel + brass uses less force or hardened steel bracket and hardened steel (stainless maybe) washer has more slip. I'm thinking the softer metal might add a little drag, but either should be good for what. You're doing here. Also I wonder if a bracket that captures the ratchet might be useful. A little bit less to manage dexterity wise. Either way, great video!

@rogermccaslin5963

Жыл бұрын

@@underourrock In the marine industry, we use a swaging tool to fit garboard drain tubes into the transom of the boat. The drain tube is made of brass and the swaging tool rounds over the end and seals it to the transom. This swaging tool has the brass washer setup I described. The brass washer goes against the die and then a steel washer sits between the brass washer and the nut used to tighten the swaging tool. I used the same tool for at least 20 years, probably at least 200 to 300 times without changing the washers. I will admit I don't know if it is some special alloy or not but it just looks like plain everyday brass.

@underourrock

Жыл бұрын

@@rogermccaslin5963 thank you very much for the added info. Wasn't saying the brass wouldn't work..any simple flat washer will give more slip than no washer. Was just curious if maybe there was a small difference with the softer metal. Wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a big difference.

Wrenchin' for many years and never used a Rivnut....the tightening up of a loose one was the clincher...... This video is getting saved. Thankx :)

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Right on... glad it helped you out!

Been doing it this way for roughly 40 years and it works fine. Although I use a 6mm plate and leave it flat so that I can fasten it with a clamp because then you only have to hold the ratchet. Which of course is according to where one needs to use it. A washer between the nut and plate kann possibly reduce the friction between both (he recommends lube for that reason) and improves the torque weil reducing the amount of pressure needed. Never owned a Rivet Gun, but also never needed Rivet Nuts on a regular basis either. So therefore this method was always practical. P.S.- Never tried this above 8 mm threads.

@SmokingSteelGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks for the comment. And thanks for watching as well.

@davidnanze8697

2 жыл бұрын

yep nothing new

@daviddavidsonn3578

Жыл бұрын

kann?? 🤔🤔🤔

@petemoore8923

11 ай бұрын

I install a lot of door hardware and this method is actually comes with the hardware.

I followed your instructions to repair damaged threads of a friend's sailboat mast gate using aluminium Rivnut. Result was awesome 👍. Instead of rethreading the M8 for large M10 size bolt, with Rivnut we actually end up using M6 bolts 😁 Thank You Smoking Steel Garage 👍

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad it helped you out.

Dear lad you are a lifesaver I’m in the middle of a project I live over an hour and a half away from the closest hardware store I bought a cheap Riv nut gun online it lasted about three river nuts and crumbled apart this video allowed me to continue on with my project thank you for posting

@dalebruce8253

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah I’m in Nova Scotia Canada

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome this is exactly why I posted this film, glad it helped you out!

Well, what a find. Working to get my E-Type on the road and this will come in so handy. Now I only need two buy the rivets. Great job coming up with this tool. The higher the level of sophistication, the simpler the tool. In my opinion. It takes a lot to think through the process to winnow it down to a great solution. Good job and thanks, Mike

@SmokingSteelGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Mike, glad I helped you out. and E-Type, that is a bucket list car for sure. Very envious! Good luck with the restoration.

@howardschlereth9368

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome car 🖖😎👍

so in case of emergency this idea is really good. i myself am too stingy to buy an expensive tool because of the few m8 rivet nuts. but up to m6 you are faster and more relaxed with a suitable tool. anyways, thanks for your solution.

This Helped me out tons. No one else's videos address the problem of the Rivnut spinning with the jamb nut and unscrewing from the installation bolt..Great solution!!

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, glad we helped out!

You smart bugga! I've been working as a transport canada licensed aircraft structures engineer for the last 28 years. And you just taught me a new trick. We use rivenuts extensively in aviation and I've never seen them installed without the fancy pants tool. Great job my friend👍

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Ahh that's awesome. I wouldn't describe myself as smart though! I was just in a jam, and had to find a quick solution. Thanks for the comment! and glad it helped you out.

Ratcheting wrench would be a great upgrade and time saver! Thanks for the tip! JD

@SmokingSteelGarage

4 жыл бұрын

You got that right!

@michaelthibault7930

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, a ratcheting box-end _and_ a way to integrate a t-handle allen wrench with the shim plate is what came to mind. With the stationery allen wrench itself holding the plate, you'll need only two hands! And the process of deforming the fluted section of the rivnut can be more-or-less continuous from start to finish. The question I'd address with this kit in front of me: is the installation quicker or more reliable (i.e. non-destructive) if the flutes on the rivnut are lightly scored circumferentially, near the mid-point of the flutes, beforehand? Slightly below?

Just what I was looking for, car application. I want to fix an oil cooler to factory holes and this comes very handy! Thanks man!

@SmokingSteelGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Glad we helped you out 👍😉

@AbbasBinYounas

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmokingSteelGarage do you think rivnuts could be used to install seatbelts in a car that doesn't have predefined nuts for seatbelts in the interior wall?

@firebird8600

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasBinYounas no. Rivnuts could pull through in a collision. Welded nuts would be better for seat belts.

@AbbasBinYounas

2 жыл бұрын

@@firebird8600 thanks.

I use rivnuts a fair bit in sheet metal and one trick I use is to put a bit of LockTite on the outside of rivnut and around the hole in the sheet metal before I crimp the rivnut. This seems to work at keeping the rivnut from spinning in the hole when you use it later. If you're able to let it dry first. CA glue might be a quicker option.

Really great video. Thanks for being so patient and thorough.

I regularly use a rivnut or nutsert tool, and the method shown here when needed. One thing to remember is that with both , you only have to start the rivet compression until it bites on the sheet metal, then the final compression can be done when the final assembly occurs. Saves time and is vastly easier on the rivnut mandrels, which in the smaller sizes have a limited lifetime.

@bradleyferrier5118

Жыл бұрын

Good tip!

@spidding

Жыл бұрын

This should only be used if the final assembly bolt is long enough to engage all of the rivet nuts threads whilst in a not-fully-compressed state.

Wonderful idea. I need to put a couple of riv nuts into my sailboat boom and this is just the way to do it. Simple little one day winter project. Thanks so much for the idea.

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds great! Thanks for the comment and good luck with the project!

Brilliant - I’m now subscribed 😉 cheers Chris “The Aussie living in the Netherlands” 👍🇦🇺

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Así at this point, I guess we could use a drill instead of the socket. This was helpful, I am getting a little side gig going and the least that I can invest and still get the same results the better. Great video. Thank you.

Wow! You just saved me $100 for the RivNut tool for 1/2" inserts! THANKS!

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Glad it helped you out 👍

Thanks! I was lost on how to tighten up a loose rivnut for a bottle cage mount on an old bicycle. This worked!

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad we helped you!

Brilliant. Just broke my riv nut tool. Followed your instructions. Worked perfectly. 👍👍👍👍👍

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad it helped you out 😉

Probably the most useful watch I've found on KZread, cheers

This was excellent and far better than other videos placing only washers under the nut; washers do not stop the rivnut from spinning with the nut. Holding that plate stationary under the nut prevents the rivnut from being turned while the nut is tightened. I also agree very much with using high strength bolt and a long barrel but, particularly on M5 and smaller rivnut, mine stripped the threads as the rivnut was pulling up. You got me, Subscribed!

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

You got it! Thanks for the comment, and thanks for watching!

@hotratz69

9 ай бұрын

A star washer between the rivnut and the bottom of the tool stops the rivnut from spinning.

"Simple. Cheap. Ingenious." Spot On. Thank you. AND includes an excuse to get some copper slip.

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

thanks just purchased a rivet nut gun and Amazon amazon you tube clip explaining a cheap method.thanks again

Thanks a lot man. You saved me 50 bucks for a silly tool I only use very little... I own a M3 to M6 one (which I use quite a bit) but I was looking to get the occasional M8 and M10 rivnut in every now and again... thanks again...

@SmokingSteelGarage

Жыл бұрын

Awesome. Glad it helped you out. 👍

I don’t understand why this gets a thumbs down. As a DIY user I needed to fit 2 m10 ruvnuts to my van chassis. Laid on my back with very little ground clearance in the roadside, this worked perfectly for me. Because a. I don’t have the tool to deal with rivnuts that big. B. Even if I did, I don’t think I’d have the room to use it. So; fantastic tip, it’s much appreciated, and your link has been shared. Thanks k

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear it helped you. A few others just don't get it........ Such is life 😁

Just finished my first run using your method, works great! thanks for sharing, your got my sub.

@SmokingSteelGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub! Awesome to hear we helped you out...... Have fun!!!

Thanks for that great video on alternative methods and ways to prevent the threaded nut, or the bolt from breaking in the event of a off set condition or confined work area. I can see the myriad of conditions where a nut cannot be added and this is a great time saver as well as a money saver. I had some similar situations and the threaded part was rusted stuck and thankfully, the threaded part was stainless steel, so using a chisel and prybar made short work of prying the screw enough to add WD 40, so I was able to remove it. I could also see that if the insert was damaged from inside from a bent condition, this method could also help to raise the screw enough to fit in a chisel or grinder to remove it. Five stars for communication since many videos have music all threw the video with no explanation of each step, as you've probably seen too. 👏👏✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨

Excellent tip, thanks for sharing. Suggestion; could use a stud connector instead of a nut, and also a ratchet spanner. I only thought of this suggestion after watching this vid. Thanks again.

Brilliant. Trying to compress some jack nuts and my rivnut tool wont reach by a couple of mm. You gave me the idea how to make it work!

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

I do oven cleaning and repairs. Have found rivet nuts useful where some of the screw mount holes for the back panels or element have corroded. One of the original videos I saw for seating rivet nuts was using a nut, bolt and washers to set the rivet nuts. Only problem I was having was that the rivet nut was sometimes rotating when trying to tighten. They have a grip profile on the side but rivet nuts but they dont always stop the nut rotating. Love this shaped piece of metal with the hole which will stop the nut rotating. Unfortunately I failed trying to seat 2 rivet nuts yesterday wasting over 1 hour, and spent out on a tool. Will make up a couple of these metal profiles at the weekend. Thanks for this brilliant tip Smoking Steel Garage.

I use a riv nut tool quite often in my work place, I’ve never had one break. However this is a great hack for some jobs that you can’t get the tool into, and for tightening a spinner, as long as you can thread that bolt into it, I think it’s a great option.

@adamkerz

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I've also never broken a rivnut tool, but this saved me the other day when I welded some parts together and no longer had space to get the tool in.

@timbit2006

Жыл бұрын

What brand do you use? I've been having a hard time finding a good one where I live

I have one of those Amazon Chinesium ones and it works quite well until your under a vehicle and need to use your chest as a brace. Thanks to your video I was able to quickly make my own lever thingy. Mine is ugly and lacks the quality look of child labor but worked like a charm. Thank you sir!

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

They don't need to be pretty to work! Well done and thabsk for the Comment.

@daviddavidsonn3578

Жыл бұрын

chinesium 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Perfect! I bought several sizes of rivnuts from an ad on facebook. It represented including the tool, but . . . . . This is a great solution to save some money.

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

As you say, a good smear of copper slip makes turning the nut much easier, the other essential is to use a high tensile bolt, as you have done here a hex socket bolt is usually high tensile,(providing it is not a chinese one), these rivenuts are very useful in fixing parts after assembly. Many thanks for posting this! Chris B.

Brilliant fix, will use the idea now - I bought a cheap one off fleabay first use the handle joint at the top just splayed open and it was knackered !

Son of a diddly. Actually very useful YT video. Thanks. I've thought couple times that you likely could do jig yourself for them, but never got rivet nuts to try. That's maybe the easiest setup there can be. Good job 👍👍

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. 👍😉

This video was really helpful, as someone who is just starting his journey trying to DIY some things, I thank you :D

I knew I’d find away on here ... saved 30£ for the gun ..thank you very much 👍🏼

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad I could help! Thanks for the comment as well.

Man this help out seeing this in the field ….. I had the part but didn’t know how to replace it Thanks !!

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped you out, and thanks for the comment!

Been using them this way mainly M8 rivnuts for years, l also use my Bosch impact driver which also works great. Just make sure the nut and bolt your using is high tensile and keep the threads oiled.

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

I have installed a rivnut on the inside of a square tube with a bolt, two nuts, a couple of washers and some lubricant. Crank the two nuts together to make an anvil, add two washers for slippage and turn the whole thing with a ratchet. It works as long as you start with a tight friction fit to keep the rivnut from spinning. There is always a risk of stripping the rivnut but if that happens you just drill it out and start over.

Great stuff, just what I need and about my fabrication skill level !

@SmokingSteelGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I have been using this idea for the last forty years, especially when installing 5/8 size on trucks and earth moving equipment.

@nmartin5551

3 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see that operation! I’m struggling with 3/8”.

Genius, man. Absolutely, brilliant.

Great job. Thanks for sharing your idea.

Great video, easy simple tool, I’ve been considering buying a rivnut gun but not now!

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks for the comment and great to hear it helped you out.

Definitely going to try this. Thanks for sharing.

You are the only youtuber that shows how to do it correctly. Everyone else is blowing smoke.

@SmokingSteelGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment. Means a lot. And glad it helped you. 👍😉

I do have to Right tool for this job. But it's great to see someone giving Good advice on an economical way to install Rivet Nuts.

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! and thanks for the comment!

A rivitnut gun was going to be my next tool purchase won't bother now excellent vid.

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, a gun is still worth having if you do lots. but this is a nice simple hack for the odd couple here and there. and also for repairing loose rivnuts. Thanks for watching and the comment though!

Great video, great info, thanks for sharing. Cheers

Thanks for taking the time to make this helpful video. You're really patient with all these armchair critics. More people might more inclined to post content if it weren't for some of these basement dwellers.

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew, glad it helped you out, and the critics It's fine, Same as the day job 😁

Nice idea. I’ve got a couple of suggestions, a ratchet ring spanner would make things easier and a few high grade bolts would make it less likely that the bolt would snap when tightening up the rivnut.

@intothenight756d47

2 жыл бұрын

Go to your nearest industrial fastener supplier and purchase suitable high tensile capscrews/allen head screws (machine bolts). These will exceed anything you can get at a bigbox retailer.

@yeahrightmate

2 жыл бұрын

The bolt he is using is a cap screw, one of the most high tensile bolts you can get over the counter but yes a ratchet spanner is easier.

thanks! exactly what i was looking for to build my own custom sim rig/cockpit.

Clever! A tip, if you have problems with the threads stripping on the bolt, or the bolt breaking purchase a higher quality bolt. Hardware store bolts are garbage. Years ago I had seat post adjusting bolt problem as the threads kept stripping. I found a store that carried military surplus fasteners and purchased a few bolts that originally had been used on fighter jets. That was the end of that problem!

Glad I watched this….gives me another trick for my shed 😁👍🏻

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thanks for the comment 👍

brilliant and good to know we use the same tools!

I’ve been using rivnuts since i found them in 2007. I had no idea there was a tool to install them so I simply use 2 washers, lubricated, & a high strength cap screw with a nut. Hold the caps crew as per video & perform the Same action with the nut. The nut turns the upper washer while the lower washer “sticks” to the rivnut flange when the pressure increases & the Same outcome happens. Just undo the nut & both washers free up. Unscrew the caps crew & admire you “no-tool” rivnut insertion.

Great idea. I need to bolt a custom roof rack to my wagon. This will be better than buying a decent rivnut puller.

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear, glad it helped out!

This has solved a few of our issues on our 'square drop mini camper build' !!!!!

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear!

That was very useful information. If ever I need to use a Rivnut, I will remember this. One thing I would suggest that you didn't mention, is to use a high tensile bolt. All the best from Queensland Australia.

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Great tip!

I used these to install roof racks to the top of my van They work great

Cheers only needed 6 ...worked like a dream!!

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome glad it helped! Thanks for the comment. 😉

Brilliant video! Many thanks. You have saved me money.

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks for watching!

Thanks mate 👍just what I need all the best 👌👍

good stuff, just a tip I noticed, your hand made tool with the holes, it could also work as a 90* angle and turned the handle bit down and let it jam against the frame so u didn't need to hold it. just a though.

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Good call! Yes I have another tool I made that I use just like that.

excellent, good job, greetings from Colombia Thank you very much for your input

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Use loctite on the outside of the riv nut

Thanks for the method. I only need to do a few every so often, so buying another $30CAD tool seems a waste. Your method saves me the trouble. Hello from Canada

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help. And thanks for the comment!

Thanks for this! Nice watch😎☮️

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you too!

You're an amazing man I can solve my problems. Thank you so much

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

No problem!

Great Idea, cheers dude!

Thanks for the great job very simple and easy appreciations and thanks once again for saving me time 🙏👍🇩🇰

Thanks. You saved me money and disappointment in a cheap tool. I only have a couple of rivet nuts to do and was about to waste money on a low quality rivet nut tool.

I used to use Rivnuts back in the 1960's. Back then, they were patented by Goodyear. All it takes to install them is a Grade 8 screw of the right thread, and a high strength nut.

Porkchop porkchop, greasy greasy... Installed that rivnut fuckin easy easy! 😁 Big help! Much appreciated!! I was going to weld threads on my bike to install a second bottle cage. I don't have the skills to be confident enough to do it. Ran across this and got the whole job done for $11 (just the price of 150pc assorted rivnuts). Again, thanks!

TXH from Sweden. Useful video.

You don't really need the 2mm metal strip. Just use some washers on the rivnut and under the nut works fine too.

@jrs4516

2 жыл бұрын

this will start winding the rivnut down the bolt which is exactly what you don't want.

@TheDIDSBIAK

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrs4516 never had this experience

Great job. Thank you 😊

Slick, simple and works well.

Good tip! i nherited a Used WorkVan that had Commercially purchased shelving and Storage racks in it utilizing those RivNuts and i stripped those to install Custom made Shelving built by me those Riv Nuts were a pain in the backside to remove and I just ran new Sheet Metal self tapping Screws into the Vans wall reinforcing Ribs that held those shelves in place for 25 years and 150,000 miles at that time i had no intention or need to purchase the RivNut tool or system

Great and very useful trick ! Thanks a lot for sharing and… for the money saved ! 👍👍👍

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure buddy!

Been using a horn bracket to install the inserts for 20+ years lol have 2 of em, fast n easy. I don't use an extra nut, just a flat washer, then I don't need 2 wrenches to tighten it up and get nice & tight fit in the hole

Awesome, just saved me buying a tool. Cheers

I made the same tool but use a star washer between the top of the rivnut and the bottom of the tool. This holds the rivnut from spinning while you tighten the bolt. Much easier to hold onto when drawing the nut up.

Sir thank you much, building my roof rack didn't want to buy a tool I would use once or twice in life🔩🚐

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Happy to help. Good luck with the build!

Is that a wall clock on your wrist! Holly cow! 😂 Kool video though thanks for tip!!! Handy dandy!!

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone's drawn to the watch. I should have done a promotion deal. 😂

Saved my bacon with this video, thanks a TON!

Great idea. "Threading" is the term for creating a thread. The proper term for removing it by over tightening is "stripping the thread".

@Critical_Stinking

Жыл бұрын

Tapping a thread is the term you mean.

@beakerunrefined4230

Жыл бұрын

Ahh? It's fred.

Thank you so much. You saved me much frustration and another wasted trip to the hardware store 😳

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Glad it helped you out.

wish I saw this before, thanks for the demo

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

This is noted. Very helpful. Thanks.

Am building a kit plane. Thanks for this info plus comment about brass washers. Rivnuts very useful items where you can't get a spanner behind to do up or undo the nut that holds the bolt. Thus you can secure a piece of equipment such as an instrument to a sheet of metal and it is then very easy to take it off and put back when required for servicing etc.

awesome fix, thanks for sharing

@SmokingSteelGarage

4 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Good solution! This will work in tight spaces where the rivnut tool doesn't fit.

@SmokingSteelGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Thanks for the comment!

Big thanks to you 🙏🙏🙏 From India 🇮🇳 ♥ India 🇮🇳

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, and the comment, glad we helped!

Thank you watching your video has helped me take care

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

Brilliant , cheers👍🏼

@SmokingSteelGarage

3 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍